Open Thread

Well, it looks like the memory problems are solved for now by upping server capacity. A huge thanks to those who have helped out through the donation button on the left. I’m still looking at future options.

bullet image DEA rejects UMass Professor Lyle Craker’s bid to grow marijuana for federally-regulated medical research

No surprise here, as Michele Leonhart had already decided on this just before Obama took office. But now the objections have been officially denied by the DEA.

One more bit of evidence (that we didn’t even need) that the government isn’t interested in the facts. And they certainly won’t give us our laboratory.

bullet image U.S. Approach to War on Drugs Ignores Dr. King’s Lessons on Justice, Compassion by Robert Rooks, the National Criminal Justice Director for the NAACP.

Some will conclude that America has achieved equality because of President Obama, but I would argue the war on drugs shows we have a long way to go. After forty years of the war on drugs, America continues to have laws that stratify society based on race and class and continues to ignore Dr. King’s lessons on justice, compassion and love.

My favorite quote from Dr. King speaks to the heart of the problem with America’s criminal justice system. “Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice, and justice at its best is power correcting everything that stands against love.”

America’s criminal justice system is reckless and discriminate.

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16 Responses to Open Thread

  1. vickyvampire says:

    Yes if we some really followed Dr.Kingswords instead of giving it lip service,we would not recognize this nation in a few years would be a real place of tolerance not the bigotry that recreational and medical users experience now.

  2. allan says:

    Rooks piece is spot on and I’m sure there will be more like it coming down the media pipeline as we approach the NAACP’s official declaration against the WOD.

    And I threw $15 bucks into the coffers – splitting the profits from my ganja calendar sales with the feller who was kind enough to give me a front page mention.

  3. DdC says:

    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and MMJ Prohibition

    “I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.”
    – Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

    I am now a free man, thank you all!
    December 20, 2005

    I still feel numb in shock and feel like I’ve been reborn, I pled guilty to 4 counts of misdemenor failure to appear (state) today and ALL other charges against me are now dropped!

    2 years unsupervised probation, and pay 4 fines of $420 plus some extra court fees and I had to stipulate to them keeping the all plant materials they stole but I get everything else back!

    After 5 years it’s all finally over, the heartache and loss still screams in my mind but in time I pray this too will heal…all this pain just because some cops think they are above the law, bending it to whatever shape they desire!

    Thanks again because I know without everybody helping I would have been a had-lad. Richard Cowan has written a synopsis at marijuananews if anybody is interested.

    I just can’t believe they keep busting people in S.D. and S.F. after letting me out of the tornado as it looks to me like a plan to scare the hell out of us all?
    Peace, steve tuck

    “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.”
    ~ Frank Zappa, 1977

    The Emancipation of Frances James By William James
    Medical Marijuana in Action. A Son’s Greatest gift.

    There’s no feeling more helpless than watching your mom starve to death in front of your eyes knowing there’s nothing “modern medicine” can do for her.

    Two days after starting on the vape my mom held my hand as tenderly as I’ve ever felt her do so and told me “You saved my life, I want to live now.”

    My father, equally chemical free his whole life, told me after seeing what MJ did for his wife of 52 years, “Thank you for your wayward youth.”

    Break down whatever ‘walls’ you think exist in your family regarding MJ use and pass this along to them, if they have an ailment that could be mitigated by vaping MJ.

    One may well ask: How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others? The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”
    – Martin Luther King, Jr

    US prison empire
    By Reverend Damuzi (Cannabis Culture Magazine)
    Marijuana Smokers are Filling Jails with Cheap Labour for Corporate Profit

    The United States has a new form of slavery. SWAT teams are conducting military “cleansings” of poor, minority and marijuana-growing neighbourhoods under the guise of drug raids that particularly target women, black people and members of the cannabis culture.

    Prisons are being privatized and converted into sweat-shops were, for example, pot huffers might find themselves in an ironic hell on earth, a dark cave where they are forced to answer unending calls for a travel agency for the rest of their lives.

    The entire operation is being coordinated by multinational corporate interests that reach deep into the heart and pockets of the White House..

    The Neomericon Dream
    Fossil fooled, Red necked, White skin, Blue bellied, Blond haired, Right handed, Freckle free, English speaking, Xenophobic, Beer swigging, Ganja paranoid Khristzions. Procreated from Two Opposite sex Heterosexuals Married by God in Holy Macaroni till DEAth does them part. According to the book of Obockman it was a Neomericon who discovered Earth in 1492. We own it, get the fuck out!

  4. Peter says:

    Re: Craker’s lab:

    “Currently, all marijuana used for any federally-regulated study is grown by the National Institute on Drug Abuse”
    The name alone gives the game away, doesn’t it…..

    • Duncan20903 says:

      I’d really like to know how Dale Gieringer manages to get the Feds to provide GI reefer for use in research studies sponsored by CaNORML.

  5. Duncan20903 says:

    Some people blame the Democrats, some blame the Republicans, I say there both liars cut from the same cloth. I’ve got evidence supporting that assertion:

    Dick Nixon said, “People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I’m not a crook.”

    Bill Clinton said, “I did not, have, sexual, relations, with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

    The Lewinsky thing would have been so much more fun if Youtube had been around when it happened.

    • DdC says:

      I say there both liars

      Probably should say they’re both liars, but in the examples you provide they are speaking neocon legalese truth, in a court of law. Nixon never stole anything and Clinton’s BJ is considered an abomination, not sexual relations. Same as Obombo’s not mentioning he has no authority to stop individuals in states with initiatives to grow enough for themselves. Only if they exchange it with some one is it Federal. Unless the caregiver is assisting the patient in the same scenario. The BS is his saying it would be a lower priority. All of it is horse feathers covering the corporate profits waging the Ganja-war and the corporate competition kept off the market shelves while prohibition exists. Now that doesn’t mean Klintoon and Nexxon aren’t the scum of the earth. They just didn’t “perjure themselves” in those particulars. It shouldn’t be a surprise to old timers since Nexxon did the very same damn thing after Leary overturned the Marihuana Tax Act and before the CSA was signed into law, there was a gap. In that gap I was busted 4 separate times and never arrested. At the time I chalked it up to dumb luck, 4 separate times. They never had a problem busting me for underage drinking. They did confiscate the pot. Seems they had no authority and just forgot to mention it. Thanks to the programmed news only reporting what they deem fit. I really don’t think this Fascism stuff is all that complicated. We’re just eat up with gullible apathetic dumbasses and obedient appeasers always looking out for #1.

  6. Duncan20903 says:

    It seems clear to me now that I’m suffering from PTSD. I was standing in the kitchen making coffee and still in my pajamas, when it hit and I was certain that the police were landing a helicopter on my roof. I was really confused when I went outside and there was no helicopter. Sheesh, black helicopters fly over my home more than a few times a day, 7 days a week and they’ve never once landed on my roof. I must say I wasn’t that impressed with the earthquake aside from the cognitive dissonance it caused me until I realized that it was an earthquake. Holy shit Batman, King Tut has deployed his earth shaker!

    (I’m on the flight path to and from Andrew’s Air Force Base.)

    • allan says:

      my condolences… as an Air Force vet I’ve lived under more than one (tho’ only one at a time) flightline. Just to show that those runways are good for something, on foggy nights at Bergstrom AFB in Austin, Tx we used to go smoke herb under the strobe lights at the end of the runway. Throw in the max thrust of some F4 jet engines as they take off overhead and you’ve got a show better than TV… of course we used to drive aound with fireflies loosed in the car too… fun is where we make it after all.

      Glad to hear btw that y’all eastcoasters got to experience a temblor… I’ve been on the west coast most of my life and I’ve experienced some big ones (the Coalinga quake tho’ was a monster of a quake and I didn’t like that one much – the only quake I’ve ever gone to stand under the door frame).

  7. DdC says:

    The fruits of elite immunity By Glenn Greenwald

    Less than three years ago, Dick Cheney was presiding over policies that left hundreds of thousands of innocent people dead from a war of aggression, constructed a worldwide torture regime, and spied on thousands of Americans without the warrants required by law, all of which resulted in his leaving office as one of the most reviled political figures in decades. But thanks to the decision to block all legal investigations into his chronic criminality, those matters have been relegated to mere pedestrian partisan disputes, and Cheney is thus now preparing to be feted — and further enriched — as a Wise and Serious Statesman with the release of his memoirs this week: one in which he proudly boasts (yet again) of the very crimes for which he was immunized. As he embarks on his massive publicity-generating media tour of interviews, Cheney faces no indictments or criminal juries, but rather reverent, rehabilitative tributes, illustrated by this, from Politico today:

    That’s what happens when the Government — marching under the deceitful Orwellian banner of Look Forward, Not Backward — demands that its citizens avert their eyes from the crimes of their leaders so that all can be forgotten: the crimes become non-crimes, legitimate acts of political choice, and the criminals become instantly rehabilitated by the message that nothing they did warrants punishment. That’s the same reason people like John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales are defending their torture and illegal spying actions not in a courtroom but in a lush conference of elites in Aspen. full story


    Cheneynagans & Oil!

    NASCAR Again Shows Bias Against Marijuana
    By Suspending Driver Who Legally Uses Medical Cannabis

  8. DdC says:

    Pot Grower Supply Businesses to Get a Boost By Dawson Bell
    CN Source: Detroit Free Press August 27, 2011 Lansing
    One sector of Michigan’s booming medical marijuana economy — retail dispensaries — took a big hit this week when a state appeals court declared their operation illegal and put them out of business. But it’s likely to prove to be a boon to another: Those who sell grower supplies. With retail sales curtailed, an increasing number of Michigan’s nearly 100,000 registered medical marijuana patients will be forced to grow their own.

    Ruling Bans Sale of Medical Marijuana in Michigan

    Doctors Group Exhort Chafee To OK Dispensaries

    Kucinich Joins Local Pro-Pot Pols at Hempfest By Jim Brunner
    CN Source: Seattle Times August 22, 2011 Seattle
    Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich was back in Seattle Saturday, taking the stage at Seattle’s Hempfest, where he gave an impassioned speech comparing marijuana- legalization efforts to the Civil Rights movement and the Arab Spring. It was just the latest in a steady schedule of local public appearances for Kucinich, who, despite a ‘buzz off’ message from state Democratic Party leaders, is continuing to explore whether to run for a congressional seat here in 2012. (His longtime West Cleveland district is in jeopardy due to redistricting.)

  9. DdC says:

    ONE TOKE OVER THE LINE (excerpts)
    Kathleen Thomas Gaspar Flume, The (CO) Fri, 26 Aug 2011

    Think about it. In the case of alcohol, which I’m not advocating, children who are in the same room as someone drinking a beer will become inebriated only if they, too, drink the beer. But children in the same room as someone smoking pot?

    I found the following online by doing a simple search.

    “Marijuana has recently ( June, 2009 ) been added to the Proposition 65 list of chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer. Second-hand marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more harmful chemicals than tobacco smoke,” the site says. You can check [url=][/url] for additional information. goes on to say, “Children can be affected differently than adults. While large doses of THC act as a CNS ( central nervous system ) depressant, lower levels of THC can act as a stimulant, so kids can go around talking incessantly when exposed to a parent’s smoke. Teenagers’ mood swings can get worse, and some kids become forgetful, angry, or violent after having been in a smoke-filled party room.”

    There is a separate site that addresses second-hand smoke, tobacco and pot, on pregnant women and unborn babies.

    I am not condemning pot smokers.

    You can check [url=]Proposition 65[/url] for additional information.
    Marijuana Smoke Listed Effective June 19, 2009 As Known To The State Of California To Cause Cancer [06/19/09]

    Thank You, Lord, for the freedoms this great nation affords us – for the radio commentator to express his opinion and for me to express mine. Thank You for wisdom, for compassion and for Your amazing grace.

    Amen. Hallelujah.

    Pushing gossip in the name of the lord? Why would you use the same propaganda those making huge profits on the drug war use? Kids have used Ganja for thousands of years as a medicine. Still do in households were brave parents risk the stigma of the church to save their kids lives. You lie in comparing tobacco to cannabis in the same shuck and jive. Tobacco has also been used for centuries without incident. Not until Ron Reagan and celebrities started advertising “cigarettes” with hundreds of chemicals added for your smoking pleasure. Not added to Ganja. No comparison except now the poor are victims of the tobacco prohibition and more gossip scapegoating the tobacco farmers while protecting the poisons of the chemical/drug/agricultural conglomerants. All while raising prices leaving the poor to buy generic, with even more chemicals.

    Same with cannabis prohibition and Nixon rejecting his own Commission. Lumping in Medicinal and Hemp that were never banned under the Marijuana Tax Act. Overturned in 1969 as unConstitutional. Hemp has been a natural source of protein and omega 3 also for thousands of years. Starving babies and illegal food. No one wants kids to toke, but its not physically or mentally going to do any damage. It might assist their outspoken nature. Many blacks were lynched in the south for insolence after smoking. It made them question why they had to cross the street and avoid looking at certain people. Why can’t they vote and own property? Thousands more were incarcerated in chain gangs providing cheap labor the same as the Koch Bros do today in their tax paid private for profit prisons. Stop the reefer madness in the pretense of saveding the children. refs

  10. DdC says:

    “The people’s right to change what does not work
    is one of the greatest principles in our system of government”
    – Richard M. Nixon

    Julian Assange Accidentally Uploaded His Secret Files to the Internet

    Wikileaks Mirrors

    Collateral Murder


    Update: On July 6, 2010, Private Bradley Manning, a 22 year old intelligence analyst with the United States Army in Baghdad, was charged with disclosing this video (after allegedly speaking to an unfaithful journalist). The whistleblower behind the Pentagon Papers, Daniel Ellsberg, has called Mr. Manning a ‘hero’. He is currently imprisoned in Kuwait. The Apache crew and those behind the cover up depicted in the video have yet to be charged. To assist Private Manning, please see

    Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-sight, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

    Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work.

  11. Jake says:

    As this is an open thread I wonder if I could post a request – if you were going to show someone sympathetic to drug law reform just one article/weblink that articulates all our points in one concise and powerful body of text.. what would it be?

    Thanks for any help!

  12. DdC says:

    Column: Cheech & Chong’s Marijuana Law

    The problem with Michigan’s well-intentioned medical marijuana law, which affects more than 99,000 people, is that it’s so vaguely written it’s like an out-take from a “Cheech & Chong” movie.

    “See, that’s the beauty of making things fuzzy. If we write this thing bad enough people won’t be able to tell for sure if they can or can’t buy pot at a store, so naturally stores will pop up all over the place to sell it until someone tells them not to.”

    The problem, of course, is that someone has indeed now told grow shops not to sell pot. Last week the Michigan Court of Appeals ruled that a “dispensary” in Mt. Pleasant had no authority to sell it under the medical marijuana law because the law didn’t expressly allow it to do so.

    Well, obviously, you’re going to go without. ( So much for compassion, eh, voters? ) Or you’re going to go back to whatever illicit source you used prior to the 2008 vote that created the medical marijuana law in the first place.

    Well we only have 50 states. If each one misses the reality of the Supremes decision to make cannabis Commerce, and don’t focus on removing cannabis Ganja and Hemp from the CSA. We should be at this a long time. The Dung Worriers have been Conserving Compassion Since 1937.

    RIVERSIDE: New tool for city attorney in medical pot fight
    Medical marijuana proponents say state law gives dispensaries the right to operate within certain guidelines. However, Riverside officials maintain the city zoning code bans medical marijuana facilities citywide.

    Drug testing of welfare applicants a GOP fishing expedition
    His scheme has also hit an unexpected snag. So far, just 2% of Florida’s welfare applicants have tested positive for illegal drug use; another 2% failed to complete the application process; and 96% were found to be drug-free. While every applicant is required to pay for their drug test, the state must reimburse those who pass.

    Even so, Scott — who invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination 75 times during a 2000 civil suit brought against him and Columbia/HCA, the troubled company he led — has shown no misgivings about treating poor Floridians like criminals.

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