Hearing the truth about policing from a fictional series

Such a great clip

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16 Responses to Hearing the truth about policing from a fictional series

  1. Servetus says:

    “The first foundation of justice is not to harm others”—fundamentum iustitiae, primum est ne cui noceatur—Cicero, (De Officiis I, 10, 31)

  2. Frank W. says:

    For non-fictional truth about policing, see the Police One blog.

    • allan says:

      hah! sorry, didn’t see yours when I posted mine… but redundancy in information is a good thing. better posted twice than not all.

      Consumer power has occasionally proven effective at bringing about needed change. Why aren’t we boycotting NM, AZ, LA (and declaring boycott)… any of these canna-bigot states?

      Headed for vacation in the SW? skip AZ and NM, go to CO!

      • Windy says:

        Odd about AZ, so far, it is the ONLY MMJ State that recognizes MMJ licenses from other States when tourists/visitors from other States with MMJ licenses get stopped by AZ cops with cannabis in their possession. But then the State fires a researcher because her research involves using cannabis to help veterans with PTSD.

  3. allan says:

    OT… but definitely veterans should take note (again)

    The personnel is the political: UA marijuana researcher fired, claims
    political motivation

    After years of planning, Dr. Sue Sisley felt surer than ever that her University of Arizona study into marijuana’s treatment potential for post-traumatic stress would actually happen.

    She obtained special permissions from various levels of government, secured a tentative research location and met last week with donors who she said were enthusiastic about funding the study.

    Then last Friday, the university fired Sisley, and she believes Arizona lawmakers are behind her termination.

    Sisley advocated on behalf of her marijuana research, meeting with
    politicians, attending rallies with military veterans supportive of her research and publicly criticizing those including Republican legislators who opposed her study.


    • kaptinemo says:

      From the article:

      “Biggs denied Sisley’s story, but said he did speak with UA lobbyist Tim Bee about the bill that would have funded Sisley’s study from the medical marijuana fee fund.

      “If asking a few questions about the bill and the university’s stance on it… I guess what she’s suggesting is that I urged her termination, which is flatly false,” Biggs said.

      Biggs also introduced an amendment to a state budget bill earlier this year that would have explicitly prohibited general fund money from going toward any marijuana research.

      “I don’t remember the genesis of (the amendment),” Biggs said. “But the idea was simply, you know, I don’t think we should fund that sort of thing. We have limited funds and better things to spend it on.” (Emphasis mine – k.)

      ‘Better things to spend it on’…than our Veterans? His official State legislature Webpage does not mention any military service…but does provide his phone number.

      Any Arizona Veterans out there might want to let him know how you feel about his sense of priorities.

      People like him should thank whatever Deity they claim that dueling is illegal in this country. With so many combat Veterans in desperate need of relief from PTSD from all our damnable wars that we’ve had going back decades, he wouldn’t last the first challenger.

      • kaptinemo says:

        And there it is again:

        “…you know, I don’t think…”

        Clearly self-evident and unnecessary to admit when you consider who might have benefited from the program. Freudian slip, and all that.

        And this is a (putative) legislator. (Spitting sound)

  4. N.T. Greene says:

    The truth is spreading.

    “I’m for truth, no matter who tells it. I’m for justice, no matter who it’s for or against.”

  5. Dave in IL says:

    Great clip indeed. I considered law enforcement careers on and off for about a decade before I just got burned out. The drug war was the primary reason I walked away.

    Now I’m working in private sector security (healthcare)and I’m also a licensed EMT. I’ll probably move into EMS full-time soon. I’d be making more money in law enforcement, of course. But I come home with a clear conscience at night, so its not so bad.

    If there were more cops like the fictional Major Colvin out there calling bullshit on prohibition, maybe I would have stuck it out. But the way I see it, I didn’t turn my back on policing, the cops turned their backs on me (and people like me).

    • allan says:

      RIP Stephen… if’n any don’t know of the Gaskins you should, we’ve lost another good one.

  6. mike says:

    The cannabis movement is learning slowly that when the
    people back a ballot petition or Bill allowing cannabis use, there must be monies set aside to promote the education and research of its use.

    Many States that have passed such laws have collected millions in fees only to have the LEO take part of that money and
    none to study or help those that may require its use.

  7. Steve Finlay says:

    The heading says this is a fictional clip, but Neill Franklin says that The Wire is virtually a documentary. He would know.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      Well except for the part where the cops go to the intersection of two streets which run parallel to one another. Oh and putting the cemetery in west Baltimore instead of east.

  8. Duncan20903 says:


    Possibly the most enjoyable event in that series for me was when one of the regular yo boys argued entrapment by estoppel in the aftermath of the police terminating the Hamsterdam open air market. The result being getting his criminal case closed without any further action because the entire fiasco was such a clear cut case of entrapment by estoppel. IIRC the yo boy didn’t have even a clue of the definition of EbE.

    PS entrapment by estoppel is when a LEO tells you either that something that is illegal is not illegal or if the LEO acknowledges that something is illegal but says that he’s going to look the other way and subsequently arresting people that relied on his word.

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