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The next states?

Christopher Ingraham helps provide data for future speculation — These are the states that could legalize pot next

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I’ve got to say, I really don’t understand Wisconsin. In general. The state that has Madison and Mazo Beach has so many contradictions. I spent every summer there growing up, and love the beauty of the state (and the cheese and brats), but the politics baffle me.

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  • thelbert

    i like that picture, Pete. i hope my fellow citizens do make my crops even more legal, next year. if they don’t, that’s OK too.

  • DdC

    It’s dat Weaselly Waskel Wisconsin Wabbit Walker no doubt.
    People get what Koch pays for.

    But I hear Farv’s coming back to coach…

    http://scottwalkerwatch.com/news/

    Wisconsin Poll 90% yes legalize it 9% no
    links

    ☛ Timeline: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker on marijuana
    ☛ “gateway drug,” and should remain illegal
    ☛ “not right now” isn’t completely shutting the door
    ☛ It may be something that resonates in the future,
    ☛ Marijuana Should Be Illegal Because People Don’t Smoke It At Weddings
    ☛ Big difference between having a beer and smoking marijuana
    ☛ marijuana use is a dangerous “gateway” to riskier substances

    Marijuana Study Counters ‘Gateway’ Theory

    ☛ Scott Walker Doesn’t Care If Food Stamp Drug Testing Is Reasonable
    ☛ Scott Walker Gets Schooled In U.S. History Following “Independence” Tweet
    ☛ Gov. Scott Walker Calls Possibility of Taking Online Courses to Finish Degree in WH ‘Interesting’

    Senators Press Feds For Answers Regarding Medical Marijuana Research

    ☛ Walker wants open records restrictions removed from budget
    ☛ Wisconsin’s Walker in hot seat over open-records restrictions

    Walker proves himself to be a Koch puppet yet again.
    Every one needs to understand ALEC

    ☛ Scott Walker’s $2.2 billion deficit is entirely a “self-inflicted wound”
    ☛ What Scott Walker’s Tenure Has Done to Wisconsin’s Workers
    ☛ Supreme Court shuts down Scott Walker: Today’s ultrasound decision is a big defeat for anti-choice warriors

    • Chris

      “Marijuana Should Be Illegal Because People Don’t Smoke It At Weddings”

      Whazzat now? Clueless people… go to any wedding reception and keep an eye on the parking lot.

  • Justin Auldphart

    I am surprised that Maine has only plurality support given the history of decrim and Medical…my world is small but most of my friends and neighbors seem to be on the bandwagon…

    • Duncan20903

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      Maybe it might have something to do with the fact that Maine has the most lenient laws (taken in their totality) of all 50 States. What really assured the defeat of California Prop 19 in 2010 was the Legislature decriminalizing petty possession during the campaign. IMO of course.

      As far as Maine is concerned, here’s an article from just a few weeks ago about a man arrested for drunken driving, 63 plants, misdemeanor, $500 bond

      I think that guy must be an unpleasant man. Although apparently his relatives are also none too bright for snitching him out about the plants. I wonder, how do you think they’ll feel if the authorities steal mom’s house? It isn’t as if she can use the “innocent owner” defense if the rest of the family knew what was going on. Idiots. The really sad part is that with an at least halfway competent lawyer he’ll probably beat the OUI.

  • divadab

    I suspect WI suffers from years of brain drain to Chicago, leaving reactionaries who like Scott Walker and think Obama is a lazy monkey.

    • Duncan20903

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      What? There are monkeys that aren’t lazy??

      When I read comments by people denigrating Mr Obama about half the time I want to demand proof that they actually know what an Obama is.

  • Frank W.

    In 1970s Illinois Wisconsin was our Sin City because of the 18 year old drinking age, but that was another Age, before the MADD Corporation seized control of the federal government.
    Don’t let Walker get you down. He’s so publicly nasty he will fail upwards and out.

  • Servetus

    Things are different today, even for prohibition states, but not necessarily among the many douchebillies who still live there. It’s 2015, and we have new marijuana smoker stereotypes with which to contend. Know your potheads….

    Marijuana: it’s not just for potheads anymore.

  • Nobody

    So according to this map graph, Texas is more “progressive” than Maine?

    • Will

      I’d say Maine has an easier path through the legislative process to change cannabis laws. At least Maine allows indirect initiative statues, Texas allows neither direct nor indirect initiative statues. And I’m guessing Maine also has more state legislators at least willing to entertain the idea of cannabis law reform. With few notable exceptions, the majority of Texas legislators are resolute against changing cannabis laws (the recently passed, very narrow CBD medical cannabis law being a minor aberration).

      Governor Greg Abbott let Texas citizens know that no cannabis legalization will occur while he’s governor. He’s just blind and obstinate enough to hold that stance regardless of how Texas citizens feel about it.

      Here’s some interesting trivia about Governor Abbott. Before being elected governor last fall he was the Texas Attorney General. While AG, he once made a statement along the lines of, “The first thing I do every morning is sue the federal government”. He was literally at odds with Washington DC about everything. However, when he was running for governor he was asked by Texas NORML (as were all candidates) to explain his position regarding cannabis laws in Texas. A part of his statement read thusly;

      “Although Eric Holder’s Justice Department has stated that it will not enforce federal law regarding marijuana in some states, federal law (which supersedes Texas law) still clearly prohibits the use of marijuana for either recreational or medical purposes.” [emphasis added, WB].

      Looks like he conveniently slept in one morning and forgot to sue the fed vis-a-vis the Devil’s Lettuce. How convenient.

      • Will

        Should read …indirect initiative *statutes*… (sheesh)

      • Duncan20903

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        That quote makes the Texas lawmakers ever so much more adorable. CBD is still on the Federal naughty lists #1 and Texas is one of the recent medicinal CBD States. Ooops. Hypocrisy is bad mmm-kay?
        —————————
        Today the answer in Final Jeopardy is Prohibitionists! Oh my words, nobody came up with the correct question!

        The correct question would have been, “What do you call people whose right brain doesn’t know what their left brain is doing?”

  • Replicating this morning’s Facebook posting:

    Okay…isn’t it bloody obvious by now that there is no good goddamned reason to keep the War on Drugs going?
    It’s simply a money grab and a way to easily ruin lives.
    Let’s focus the efforts of law enforcement to REAL CRIMES.
    I want for anyone who may think of writing some pablum talking about the ‘horrors’ of drug use to watch this video once more, and then realize this: this is NOT the first time these officers did this. Obviously, they were able to go back to doing their jobs after this little adventure.
    In all of the states where pot use has been legalized, less people are using and DYING from prescription drugs.
    Pot grows from the ground, and has NEVER harmed anyone. I like to drink, but millions of people have been harmed by it.
    Look at that video again. Those officers make a fair effort to cover up their activity, but they were certain in the fact that no one of their fraternity was going to rat them out.
    They didn’t think that they were doing anything WRONG.
    Think about that.

    https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/573285709479607/

    • Crut

      They didn’t think that they were doing anything WRONG.

      Not that your quote needed fixing… but, yea…

    • DdC

      That’s just what They’ll be expecting Us to do

      Okay…isn’t it bloody obvious by now that there is no good reason to keep the War on Drugs going?

      A Trillion goddamned reasons…
      A $Trillion spent on the Ganjawar is a $Trillion in the Pockets of Prohibitionists.

      It’s simply a money grab and a way to easily ruin lives.

      Thar-ya-go. Sums it right up. Only a way to easily ruin certain lives. Definitely a money grab. Profit ALEC maxcap deals are bringing more equality to include all lower income races, creed, sex, color and ethnanticity.

      Let’s focus the efforts of law enforcement to REAL CRIMES.

      Who is focusing them now? It is as obvious as the circumvention of the Constitution. They aren’t shy about what they do. They vote for the war on every level. In and out of Washington DC. Any group that spouses Hate is condemned unless it is the obvious drug worriers. Sabet and Calvina can lie and manipulate data with Norida. Hate, flat out and pure as hell can muster it. So what are we doing informing people who don’t want to know? Who side with the liars and sit on a razor fence pretending it isn’t so obvious. Lack of Medical studies are only in University Med Schools. Not one doctor is taught cannabis. So the catch 22 continues. Now it is time for the people to wake up. We are beyond a shadow of doubt. It is crystal clear. Those making a stand with the WoD Junkies or with the people.

      I want for anyone who may think of writing some pablum talking about the ‘horrors’ of drug use to watch this video once more, and then realize this: this is NOT the first time these officers did this. Obviously, they were able to go back to doing their jobs after this little adventure.

      Sa Nta A Na, probably show it at the Christmas parties. Arrogance will bring them down. The kid in the wheel chair they kicked is now a Poster boy exposing the vile sick attitudes toward those they are sworn to serve and protect. Right along side of the little girl having seizures while these thugs prevent her treatment. Laughing at a 6 year old kid seizing. The draconian sentences taking the bread winner from the family is the Poster of the Family Research Counters true objective. This is what your donations buy, Orphans for Newt.

      In all of the states where pot use has been legalized, less people are using and DYING from prescription drugs.

      A big problem for fat pharms all around. But the numbers say that they are still making $Billions in spite of the deaths, that only seem to show up “off mainstream media”. The side effects of fat pharm powders should have people flocking to Ganja.

      Cannabis
      * Warning Poison
      * Number of people that die each year = 0
      * Antidote = Coffee

      Epileptic seizures: Aptiom (eslicarbazepine acetate)

      Pot grows from the ground, and has NEVER harmed anyone.

      Again, this is not a war and cannabis is not a plant. It is a business making a product to sell for tax dollars. All renewable resources are against free enterprise. Never harming anyone? What damn good is that to fat pharma or the tow truck driver? The car salesman selling replacements. Fossil fools from fat pharm plastic drainage tubes to high tech profits monitoring organ damage. Car crashes are 80% sober people, that’s pushed even harder than booze. More money. People get too sentimental.

      I like to drink, but millions of people have been harmed by it.

      Keep trying, practice, practice, practice. Those getting harmed are stimulating the economy. Stoners are making impressions in couch cushions and laughing harder than at the latest crappy movie out. No harm in that. What the hell, commies?

      Look at that video again.

      Just call them up and give them support.
      https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/sky-high-holistic-2

      Those officers make a fair effort to cover up their activity,

      You use that term pretty loosely. Orange County thugs kicking wheel chair bound victims nubs are no officers. Just adolescents in adult bodies carrying guns.

      but they were certain in the fact that no one of their fraternity was going to rat them out.

      Maybe they’ll police themselves, damn I know better than to write crazy shit after sipping coffee. Police Chief Joe McNamara used to inform the public about the thin blue line. Thick black and blue line. Courts go along with it. Politicians never wanna look weak being crime softies, just act it. We elect them. But most don’t get involved or are shunned into following or outcast as trouble makers. They’ve had the bases covered for many decades. We keep poking holes and more are seeing what they cover up. I’m just sampling some Gorilla Glue waiting on the big rip and the guts of WoD to tumble out onto the dirt.

      They didn’t think that they were doing anything WRONG.

      They almost have to know its wrong. But its legal and it pays the mortgage and kids braces. The new car they can’t afford just sitting in some grow op. They know its wrong and all of the pats on the back can’t change the fact of how most were raised. Most do know right from wrong when they steal or testify against someone. They have been psychologically intimidated, indoctrinated to justify the abuse for the greater good, but they can’t sleep with it. It will haunt them sooner or later. If they really don’t know its wrong with all of the information available. Should they really be driving a car or brandishing a firearm? Or putting their hand on the Bible and swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them God. Nice separation of church and state btw. Karma will getem but Karma is never on our time table so we probably won’t hear about it.

      Think about that.

      • Thanks, brother – you have to wonder if the PTB reads this stuff. Actually, they know about all of this, but then, they look into their wallets and remark, “Oh, there could be lots more billage in here…time to turn another innocent into a casualty.”

  • joe minella

    The wod was outrageous 20 years ago. It was outrageous 15 years ogo. It was outrageous 10 years ago. And it’s still outrageous. Think of all the ruined lives that have occurred since the outrageousness has been obvious. This should not happen in a democracy.

    • Duncan20903

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      The United States of America is a Republic. It wasn’t even until the 17th Amendment was ratified in 1913 that the States’ US Senators were elected by the voters.

      The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.” ~~ Benjamin Franklin

    • primus

      This DOES NOT happen in a democracy. Ergo, what type of government do we have?

  • Duncan20903

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    Well now I know why I don’t need Viagra to get a boner!
    Marijuana ‘helps bones to heal’

    For me the thing that produces the longest and most intense sessions of face palming is that the prohibitionist parasites and their sycophants consider the large number of medical conditions for which cannabis has medicinal utility as evidence supporting the assertion that there’s no such thing as medical merrywanna.

  • DdC

    Public Service Announcement

    It may be prudent at this juncture to fight for keeping marijuana illegal, as a schedule #1 narcotic with no medicinal value, highly addictive, a menace to society and a substance so vicious it is not found among atoms and molecules.

    Remove Cannabis in all forms from the prying claws of Givernment and the profiteers monopolies, Fill the prisons with those drug worrying bottom-line dwellers kidnapping it and enslaving it as a tool. To rake in big bucks moralizing the citizens with hobgoblins, equally lacking atoms and molecules.

    Let them stall, Catch 22² “marijuana” while society reaps the bennies of Cannabis. The worry warts can still spread their gossip about “marihuana the heathen devil weed”. With no reason to get involved with Cannabis’ many uses. Let the OiNkDeCePtion tell the politico’s and pro rehabilitationists for profits how to streamline their efforts by attacking the real problem, “marijuana”.

    Let Cannabis be with the people reducing Givernments burden and taxes spent. Give local communities a means to provide sustenance for all. Dirt, sunshine and a little water. Not nearly as much as they say about “marijuana”. Cannabis grows in the desert and taste good in the dessert. Cannabis can replace clear cutting rain forests or blowing up mountain tops for coal to burn making steel Hemp can replace. Cannabis can replace the 90 million pounds of poisons sprayed over the Bible Belt antichoice cotton crops. Aborting babies via Monsanto.

    “Marihuana” has been the true menace since its racist creation. Addictive to those needing a fix to spread the hysteria. Watching the fear consume neighborhoods and schools. The Glory of the Gore selling newspapers with large headlines. “Marihuana With Roots in HELL!” Not Cannabis. There lies the lies and confusion. Remove Cannabis from the CSA. Sabeteur SAM can safe us from “marijuana”.

  • peoria_dude

    No data available for Illinois. Figures. It doesn’t matter one lick what the majority of people in Illinois think anyway, it only matters what Democrat kingpin Michael Madigan and his liberal/progressive minions think. They don’t give a shit about anyone or anything other than staying in power.

    Speaker of the House Michael Madigan for over 30 years and Chair of the Democrat Party, with his daughter as the Attorney General and highest legal authority in the state. Even when some of the idiot minions finally decide to give someone outside of the Illinois Democrat mafia a chance, its a complete dipshit Republican like Rauner. And the Democrat overlord thugs still have veto proof majorities in the House and Senate over Rauner anyway, so all he can do is throw some money around and say stupid shit.

    What’s the deal with Wisconsin? They probably read the Chicago newspapers and are smarter than the liberal minions of Illinois to trust a mob boss like Michael Madigan with more than 30 years of power over their freedom. Trust the math, Wisconsin, you’re much better off with a Walker for a few years than with a Madigan for three fucking decades and counting.

    Is a drug dog sniff a search? No, according to SCOTUS, resulting in even more innocent cannabis/drug possessors being locked in cages. Who argued that case? Lisa Madigan did. Guess who her father is. As much of a dickhead as Walker is, he doesn’t hold a candle to the evil that is the Madigan cartel of Illinois.

    And there isn’t even one liberal/progressive with any juice in the entire state that will say a bad thing about Madigan. Minions is the perfect word to describe the idiots who keep voting for these Democrat monsters in IL. But hey, we might have some medical marijuana available to a couple thousand people (out of 13 million) 4 years after the temporary, crony capitalist program was set up and 1 year before it automatically expires.

  • Servetus

    Propaganda Alert: NIDA supported study says cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption is down, while marijuana smoking is up among teens, especially black teens! :

    “…we were surprised to find the very clear message that kids are choosing marijuana over cigarettes.” — Stephanie Lanza, professor of biobehavioral health, and scientific director of The Methodology Center, Penn State.

    Surprised? The researchers’ next study is to search for any correlations they can find showing an increase in teen marijuana use due to any link they can find to states where it’s legal. With cigarette and alcohol use down, the new research agenda will be hijacked by politics and decimated by reality. Given the known relative harms of the named substances, a personal preference for marijuana over other drugs would normally be considered good news, except in the US, where tyranny and repression is the objective of the drug war, not public health.

    The Penn State study gives cops a further excuse to continue to pursue, roust, or stop-and-frisk black teenagers, while excluding white teenagers from the clutches of the law.

    It’s expected the NIDA researchers will get a hearty “job-well-done” from prohibitionists for giving new support to active and institutionalized racial discrimination, and to funding the prison industrial complex. Penn State can be assured of receiving more NIDA funding next year.

    • Servetus

      Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has formally requested an explanation from the DHHS, ONDCP, and DEA, demanding to know why the agencies have obstructed cannabis science. The respective alphabet agencies will blame Congress for mandating extremist prohibition laws and a culture of intolerance, even though the latitude exists among the alphabet agencies to make necessary changes to their own policies.

      Congress will relay the blame back onto the agencies. The administrators of the agencies will resent being blamed for Congressional incompetence. They will retaliate by spilling their guts to the media about what they know of failed drug law enforcement policies and their administrators’ narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies. This, in a nutshell, is how governments collapse.

      Meanwhile, researchers in Israel will continue to outscore the Americans on every new cannabis discovery to be had on the medical spectrum. The Israelis will acquire patents and marketing dominance in cannabis medical science, simply because they’re willing to do the taboo research on cannabinoids and bring the products to market.

      • Duncan20903

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        Oh my gosh! I’m stuck in a feedback loop and I’m being tormented with the mental image of Beavis and Butthead being surveyed!!

      • kaptinemo

        Rule One of Opportunistic Politics: If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.

        Senators Feinstein and Grassley: Break Down Barriers to Medical Marijuana Research

        As if they have not had an active part in that obstruction?

        Look at that article. This is how they will try to cover their tracks for past support for cannabis prohibition

        I’m sure that they wish the Internet never existed: Just recall this. DiFi stupidly aping the ONDCP and DEA’s pre-packaged, freeze-dried-just-add-saliva BS about ‘gateway’ drug’ when the 1999 IoM report shoud have laid that to rest.

        That was last year; today, they act as if they had the short-term memory problems they say we have. Trying to pull an Orwell Ministry-of-Truth; “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.”

        They fool no one. I’ve seen this in the elderly folks I’ve cared for. Dementia is not pretty.

    • Duncan20903

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      Welcome to our next lesson in “How to Lie With Statistics” although today I’m suspect that we won’t be able to make Darrell Huff blush with envy.

      A peculiar thing that I’ve noticed is that when the results of a published study results which can be construed as anywhere from not negative to positive vis a vis the effects of cannabis the prohibitionist parasites cough up a study which contradicts that study. I’ve never documented that this is true so it’s possible that my perception is because the event makes an impression in my brain while the times it doesn’t happen don’t. But it sure seems to happen a lot.

      I can trace such events all the way back to 1992 when a study was published that showed that cannabis helped people living with AIDS. About a month or two later a study was published which claimed that cannabis consumption caused significant harm to a person’s immune system. Of course that meant it wasn’t any good for the AIDS patients. That study was widely cited leading to George Bush the 41st closing the Compassionate IND to new patients.

      In 2006 Dr. Tashkin released the landmark study which showed that cannabis was almost certainly not a causal factor in smoking related disease. Shortly after that a “scientific” study done by a study from New Zealand sponsored “scientists” which said that it was a causal factor.

      So today we’re looking at the freshly published study from Penn State that claims which claims that youth use of cannabis is rising. But it was just a few short days ago when we read the results of a contradictory study.

      “Report: Marijuana use down; disapproval up among young teens”

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      The study, led by social work professor Christopher Salas-Wright and published in The American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse, examined the perceptions and use of marijuana among youths in the United States between 2002 and 2013.

      Changes were particularly marked among younger adolescents (ages 12-14), as study findings point to a 25 percent decline – from 6 percent in 2002 to 4.5 percent in 2013 – in the relative proportion of youths reporting marijuana use in the previous 12 months, and an increase from 74 percent to 79 percent reporting strong disapproval of marijuana use initiation.

      “Our results may suggest that recent changes in public policy, including the decriminalization, medicalization and legalization of marijuana in cities and states across the country, have not resulted in more use or greater approval of marijuana use among younger adolescents,” Salas-Wright said.

      So how are the Penn State researchers lying with statistics since the statistics which they proffer are accurate? The trick is in their choice of their starting point. Why the heck is 1993 significant to adolescents with either an abundance or lack of melatonin? If I apply Ockham’s Razor the most likely reason is because that was when the lowest percentage of them chose to enjoy cannabis. Regardless, sitting in plain sight is that the 1976 numbers are most assuredly higher for all cohorts in that year than currently.

      Serious question: Why the heck do prohibitionists not understand that there are less youths using smoking tobacco than consume cannabis because certain policy changes to keep American children from using smoking tobacco has been smashing victory of public policy?

      Prohibitionists! You can’t live with them and murder is illegal!! It’s just not fair!!!

  • claygooding

    6 Myths About Marijuana That Continue To Persist Even Though More Americans Want Legal Greens

    http://tinyurl.com/qjcjpn5

    “”The tide seems to be turning in the national conversation about legalizing marijuana use. A Pew Research Center study of public opinion trends since 1969 showed that views on marijuana use have essentially flipped in the past three years.
    No longer an issue favored by a fringe minority, for the first time since the 1960s, a whopping 53 percent of the country believes that marijuana should be made legal. As one might predict, the research showed that more millennials are in favor of legalization than those in older generations, but overall the findings hold across age, gender, and political divides.
    But a change in opinion hasn’t changed persisting myths about legalizing marijuana, and there’s still plenty of misinformation about what would happen if we were to make weed legal.”” “snip”

    1) If You Legalize Weed, More Kids Will Get Addicted
    False..leaving marijuana sold by street dealers instead of licensed outlets that check ID’s underwrites availability of marijuana to underage users.

    2) Weed Is More Dangerous Than Alcohol
    False. Alcohol causes 88,000 deaths per year,,marijuana causes zero,,comparison over.

    3) Marijuana Is A Gateway Drug
    False Over 90% of people use alcohol,tobacco or caffiene before they experiment with marijuana,,how do you pass over 2 or three other mind altering addictive drugs and claim the 3rd or 4th used is the gateway?

    4) More Weed Will Lead To More Crime
    False When you remove marijuana from being a crime and establish a competitive instead of greed regulated market it removes today’s criminal activities surrounding marijuana.

    5) Marijuana Has No Use Beyond Recreation
    False Unless you believe hippies snuck back 4,000 years in a time machine and inserted marijuana in ancient Chinese medical scrolls.

    6) Very Few Americans Want to Legalize Marijuana
    False The polls report that a majority of Americans support a regulated market over the black market and the violence and corruption it causes.