An active U.S. President said what?

I have very little faith in politicians and none in Presidents, yet this is pretty amazing language to hear from a U.S. President who is still in office.

“Mass incarceration makes our entire country worse off, and we need to do something about it.”

“For non-violent drug crimes, we need to lower long mandatory minimum sentences — or get rid of them entirely.”

“In too many cases, our criminal justice system ends up being a pipeline from underfunded, inadequate schools to overcrowded jails.”

That, along with commuting the prison sentences of 46 drug offenders (a drop in the bucket, but better than nothing) and it almost makes if feel like there’s a change in the wind…

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69 Responses to An active U.S. President said what?

  1. thelbert says:

    i only wish he had freed Paul Free. the joke is getting old, barry.

    • Frank W. says:

      Wait until he’s retired, then you’ll hear “I always wanted to legalize it.”

      Here’s a Yahoo headline for ya:
      Pot Breathalyzer To Make Marijuana Legalization Safer For the Children

      OK I added those last three words.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        That “breathalyzer” is a long way from being certified to produce probable cause. Why the heck are so many people queer for the breathalyzer? From time to time I ponder the possibility of a blood testing device like some diabetics use to monitor their blood sugar level. Those things work with a really tiny drop of blood. But the device still breaks the skin making it invasive.

        Wouldn’t it be smarter to go with impairment testing, you know, something like a video game? If the citizenry keps demanding a breathalyzer for every potential drug of impairment it won’t be long until the cops have to tow a trailer behind their patrol cars. It’s just an invitation to a clusterfuck.

        Oh, BTW, today that there’s an app for that. Who’da thunk that NORML would be announcing the first device to measure impairment?
        Canary App Permits Marijuana Consumers To Gauge Their Personal Performance

  2. jean valjean says:

    He could pardon anyone and everyone convicted of a non-violent drug crime at the stroke of a pen. Go on man, surprise us all….. who knows, could be even bigger than your Iran moment on the domestic stage, and maybe we all got you wrong?

  3. kaptinemo says:

    The wind is at his back, pushing him to move…and it is coming from that sea-change in the electorate. From us. And that wind is increasing in force.

    Recall how he shucked-and-jived, and chuckled deprecatingly at the ‘Internet people’ when the Absolute Number One Question at the top of the list for each Town Meeting was re-legalizing cannabis?

    Prezdent Choom isn’t chuckling anymore, is he? We’ve repeatedly demonstrated only a small amount of what we can do with over half the electorate behind us.

    If the prohibs and their supporters wish for more examples, well, 2016 is not that far off.

    • claygooding says:

      If you want to scare the Congressional prohibitches new voter registrations are the scariest thing they can hear right now,,new voters mean changes are coming down the pike.

      A mass registration by young voters will give the dinosaurs in Congress heart attacks and a new young voter might even get on a jury in a marijuana trial they can nullify.

    • Mallam says:


      Not exactly the best term to utilize when referencing the current sitting president…and that’s an understatement.

      • kaptinemo says:

        I call it as I see it.

        Race has nothing to do with it; this perpetual insulting of our intelligence, as if we were unfamiliar with the tactics used by prohibitionists for the past 40 years, to fob off the drug law reform movement is the issue, here.

        His attempt at dissembling, condescension and obfuscation regarding this issue fits the term quite well. No matter how eruditely delivered the speech, the dance moves are always the same.

        But now, he has no choice but to face this issue because he was forced to. By us. He’s grudgingly acknowledging the fact of cannabis re-legalization’s inevitability.

        But he still hearkens to His Master’s Voice. Who’ve gotten quite wealthy and powerful courtesy of drug prohibition, and are doing all they can to stall that inevitability.

        (Why have none of the big-shot banksters, the ones that trashed the world economy, who’ve been caught red-handed laundering illicit drug money (see HSBC), not done the perp-walk? Google June 6 2008 Chantilly Virginia to learn why.)

        Hence Obama’s reluctance and playing bureaucratic footsie with Schedule One, saying Congress has the responsibility when he could reschedule cannabis with the stroke of a pen on an Executive Order. (Why not, he signs so many?)

        I could not care if the man’s hide was purple with green stripes and red polka-dots. I do care that he thinks we’re stupid, and that he thinks he can give the same tired old ‘anti-drug’ BS and not be called out for it.

        • Mallam says:

          You call it as you see it, I call it as I see it. You seem to have a wide vocabulary, Cap’n. Try expanding it when you’re trying to appeal to people outside of your lily white libertarian movement. Language matters. Context matters indeed. And the context is utilizing a term that invariably resides in slavery and white supremacy to refer to a sitting black president.

        • kaptinemo says:

          Assuming an awful lot about drug law reformers in general, aren’t you?

          Your ignorance is understandable; you evidently have not been doing your homework concerning our efforts to bring to light the racist underpinnings of the DrugWar, going all the way back to the first anti-recreational drug laws of the 1800’s.

          If you find my description of the verbal gyrations of President Choom offensive, then understand what he has done has been an offense to reason.

          Hypocrisy of any sort, from any quarter, is anathema to me. On this issue, given his past, given what can and does happen every day to his fellow African-Americans for doing what he got away with, by refusing to take a more active role in drug law reform, and thus end the only remaining part of Jim Crow laws left in this country, Obama proves himself a gold-plated hypocrite unworthy of slavish devotion.

          Like I said, I call it as I see it, sans any ideologically-colored glasses. This issue transcends ideology, and cuts to the heart of freedom, itself. Namely, reclaiming stolen freedoms, and the political power attendant with them. A rough-and-tumble job, that gets you down and dirty in the trenches. And that’s not water mixed in there with the soil, but our blood.

          If that offends ever-so-soft, sweetly perfumed, tender PC sensibilities, then those entertaining them should step aside. They can thank the rest of us after we win back our freedoms.

        • kaptinemo says:

          One more thing: when did the word ‘libertarian’, that describes the basic philosophy that allows you the freedom to excoriate it, become a swear word?

          Such is the usual province of the Social Justice Warrior, a.k.a. ‘progressives’.

          The kind of people whose ‘Progresive Era’ saddled us with the odious, detestable, racist DrugWar.

          And their efforts had nothing to do with rehabilitation, but elimination, partly because so many ‘progressives’ were fond of eugenics, which played a very significant role in these supposedly ‘enlightened progressives’ anti-drug efforts.

          That was because minorities were seen by these oh-so-wise ‘progressives’ as barely civilized savages, barbarians within the gates that outright slaughter could no long be perpetrated upon (see lynchings).

          Instead, the drug laws became a means of social control of those deemed by these paragons of progress as ‘degenerate races’.

          The so-called ‘progressives’ of the last century have much karma to atone for, because of this. The ones today do as well, for their being unwilling to support actual drug law reforms due to fear of being labeled soft on crime by their opponents. Such moral cowardice hiding behind expediency merits no respect, and should receive none.

          The gains we are making in changing the laws are due largely to the efforts of those who actually do believe in liberty, not as a ethereal concept, but as a way of life.

          Such liberty is frightening to those who believe all power must accrue to The State…which always, always, ALWAYS can be expected to abuse it, as the Snowden revelations prove it has.

          Ol’ Tom Jefferson said it best: “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.”

          I will go him one better: I’d much rather have the company of those who agree with that sentiment, instead of those who ignorantly, arrogantly wipe themselves with the word that best expresses that ideal.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Oh no! kaptinemo stepped on a PC landmine! I sure hope you were wearing your anti-ballistic jock strap! Those things go straight for the naughty parts you know.

          Pete’s running a lily white “libertarian” web site? Why didn’t anyone tell me about this? Oh well, getting the mushroom treatment, that’s the story of my life.

          But I do have to admit that if words were water kaptinemo could cure the drought on the left side of the country.
          kaptin, it’s about two years now since I started seeing people that lean leftish start redefining the word libertarian to include a segment of the population and in particular a segment of the Republican party which could only be described as “libertarian” after the word was re-defined to include them.

          The Humpty Dumpty school of sophistry, it’s not just for prohibitionists any more.

        • kaptinemo says:

          Duncan, the so-called ‘progressives’ are in serious need of proper prescription lenses. They can’t differentiate between a lower case ‘l’ and an upper case one.

          There were ‘libertarians’ around centuries before there were Libertarians. The philosophy existed long before the political party. All of the Founders were subscribers to that philosophy, which is the underpinning of the very means by which our PC-infected friend is allowed to spit upon the concept wit impunity.

          Orwell warned us this kind of thing would happen, didn’t he? Twisting the language to suit political expediency. And the underlying purpose of making ‘libertarian’ a swear word is just as evil.

          By making ‘libertarian’ an epithet, they are attempting to do to those who support such a philosophy as the NeoCons did to them with the word ‘liberal’.

          It would astound most so-called ‘progressives’, who are supposed to have vastly superior knowledge, education and experience than a lowly ‘libertarian’ (bowing to the audience) would possess , that the word ‘liberal’ originally meant the same as ‘libertarian’. The Founders were considered ‘liberal’ for holding the beliefs that they did.

          I doubt very seriously they would have wanted the company of those presently holding that title, for such represent the very forces of State-sponsored oppression they sought to destroy. The kind of State-sponsored oppression the DrugWar represents. A State-sponsored oppression (and terrorism!) so-called ‘progressives’ allowed to happen for a century under the guise of drug prohibition…to the very minorities the so-called ‘progressives’ claimed to champion.

          So-called ‘progressives’ have forgotten the old injunction about not complaining that your neighbor has a dust speck in his eye when you have a 2×4 sticking out of yours. This latest attempt at intellectual neutering-by-PC is a example of that in operation.

      • NorCalNative says:

        Mallam, the down thumb is mine. Other than a valiant attempt to play PC cop what’s your point?

        If the term is spot-on truthful it’s one thing. If the term is used as a form of racial hatred and currency it’s a whole nother ball game.

        CONTEXT matters Mallam and PC bullshit ALWAYS inhibits democracy or truth.

        I respect your opinion, and now you know mine. BTW, we don’t play the racist game here, it’s NOT tolerated period.

        • Mallam says:

          Indeed, context matters. And I’m telling you that the context of said term in the context of talking about the sitting U.S. President is going to invoke certain connotations. That’s what context means. It won’t be tolerated, you say? How so? Are you going to ban me for voicing my own opinions that language which is inclusive to all people who might be interested in the anti drug war coalition rather than wanking at a Ron Paul festival and wondering why so few people of color identify as libertarian?

          The point is to be mindful of language which is only going to force people who otherwise might be sympathetic to your cause out the door.

        • kaptinemo says:

          “…your cause…”?

          I infer from that use of the pronoun that you don’t actually subscribe to drug law reform.

          Yes, language can be very important, can’t it? It can prove to be very revealing, at times. I believe you just provided an example of that process in action. And you may also have provided the actual rationale for your presence. Which apparently has nothing to do with drug law reform, only concern trolling.

          Thank you for the clarification.

      • DdC says:

        Racism — we are not cured of it, And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say nigger in public.”
        ~ Barry Obama

        At least he didn’t say shuck or jive.

  4. Hope says:

    I ran on to this while I was searching for any new information on Kris Lewandowski. I didn’t find anything new on Lewandowski, but I ran on to this slightly interesting piece of trip/trap talking about Rush Limbaugh. He mentioned that Limbaugh had it all wrong about the term “Wake and Bake”. Then explained it…. and I thought, “What?” But then again… maybe I’m wrong.

    I think it means get high (baked) as soon as you can after you wake up. But as I started to speak to that passage and what I thought it meant… I thought…”Wait. Maybe I am wrong.” What does wake and bake mean to you?

    Higher Ground: The Good, the Bad, & the Very Ugly

  5. joe minella says:

    You had it right. Not sure what Michael A. Stusser was talking about.

    • DdC says:

      Now in reality cannabis is still a schedule#1 controlled substance. Americans are still being arrested and incarcerated or plea bargained into forced rehabilitation. Dispensaries are still being raided, in legal states. While draconian sentences are still being doled out in non quasi legal states. Hemp has sold $600 million in products in the US, not grown by American farmers. The Clinton/Souder bastardization of the Higher Education Act, 3 strikes, Mandatory Minimum, MaxCap profit prisons. Due to his lack of action we are once again thankful for not being more brutalized by republicans. I can smell the Freedom all over the place. Or something. Free to be a willing breathalyzer test sample, or give up my property and belongings in forfeiture and confiscation rackets that I would still have to sue to have it returned. Kids still ripped off by child protection racketeers and child labor foster trailer parks. Testimony to the fact that this is not a Free Country, if it ever was. Is that appeasers and reformers are all giddy that he admitted cannabis is less harmful or equal too booze. His words several years ago along with the 79 medicinal research papers recently considered to be accurate, and complete lack of flesh and blood victims demands he eliminates it as a controlled substance. He ops for words to appeal to the base. Afterall, they are the lesser evil.

  6. pricknick says:

    We’ve come so far as to say “(a drop in the bucket, but better than nothing)”.

    A drop in the bucket still leaves a thirst.

  7. DdC says:

    Here are the 46 people whose sentences Obama just commuted

    Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2014)

    Here’s an explanation of how presidential commutations and pardons work

    Obama commuted the sentences of dozens of drug offenders in federal prisons, the 46 people had served sentences disproportionate to their crimes.

    41 cocaine, 1 meth and 2 for pot and 2 for pot and cocaine. The various states taking advantage of closed door policy. So does shooting someone get longer sentences if they posses the gun before shooting? Conspiracy to violate narcotics laws? Were they discussing it on FB? Hey ya wanna? Busted! A reoccurring fav is Possession with intent to distribute. Can you be charged with distribution and not be in possession? Possession with intent to distribute not Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute damn it! The defendant did knowingly conspire to distribute and possess and intent to conspire to possess distribution. Conspiracy to commit racketeering. Knowingly and intentionally distributing. Cultivation of marijuana plants, Conspiracy to manufacture, distribute, and possess with intent to distribute. Huh? Thanks Obama, you’re 46 in a million.

  8. Thudworthy says:


    Well here’s another something which I never in a gazillion years would have or even could have predicted:

    Marijuana ruled ‘reasonable and necessary’ for injured worker’s pain relief

  9. Daniel Williams says:

    Every one of Obama’s pardons was for cocaine/crack prisioners (and one, from my neck of the woods, Ft. Myers, Florida, was decidedly non-violent: he used a gun). Perhaps it was because of Obama’s familarity with and enjoyment of cocaine, as he wrote of his afininty for the white powder in his self-absorbed book. Too bad he didn’t do LSD: virtually every LSD prisioner is non-violent and deserves to be freed.

    We have become accustomed to praising politicians for the scraps they toss our way, in some sort of drug war Stockholm Syndrome. And while the thought of gay sex is more repulsive to many than the act of smoking a joint, gay rights activists have done a much better job than drug policy advocates, suggesting, as I have often done here on Pete’s couch, that we should all be gay for a day – or two.

    • octave says:

      As someone who supported gay rights before it was trendy to do so, I would just like to say this:

      I really hope they freed all those oppressed homosexuals from all those for-profit prisons after that Supreme Court ruling.

      Priorities, man. No go bake me a cake!

      • Daniel Williams says:

        I’m not sure when it became trendy, but I’ve been cool with gays since the 60s.

        And I don’t know if you’re joking or what about the oppressed homosexuals thing. But maybe I’m too high.

        Is chocolate OK?

  10. Francis says:

    Active U.S. President”? Drug policy reform is one area where I’d say “sitting U.S. President” really seems like the more appropriate word choice.

    • darkcycle says:

      Absolutely. It’s what he does, not what he says. Anybody remember those two has-beens? “Hope” and “Change”?

  11. DdC says:

    Marijuana legalization in California: Leading group moves to place initiative on 2016 ballot santacruzsentinel

    Proponents of a proposed ballot measure aimed at making California the fifth state to legalize pot for recreational use are a few weeks away from kicking off their November 2016 campaign, supporters said Thursday.

  12. DdC says:

    Colorado rejects reject PTSD as ailment eligible for medical pot

    Pot-pioneering Colorado rejects reject marijuana as PTSD treatment

    Ganja 4 PTSD & Depression
    ☮ Maine PTSD Sufferers Qualify for Medical Marijuana
    ☮ Republican State Senator Kimberly Yee blocks PTSD study
    ☮ Why are Soldiers Dying in Their Sleep?
    ☮ Veterans for Medical Marijuana Access
    ☮ Military Veterans Say Pot Eases PTSD
    ☮ Veterans Form Pro-Legal Marijuana Group
    ☮ VA prescribes/opposes addictive drugs for PTSD
    ☮ Why U.S. Vets Are Fighting for Medical Marijuana
    ☮ Cannabis, the Importance of Forgetting
    ☮ Many Veterans are the Enemy in the War

  13. Servetus says:

    It’s not only Barry Obama, captured as he is by the sitting-or-prostrate president’s duty to uphold the current law of the land, no matter how odious the task may be, but Hillary has made noise about law enforcement reform and too many US prisoners. It seems the Tin People found their hearts.

    Bill Clinton just emerged with a mea culpa for his 1990s utopian vision of an always-benevolent police state. Not only did Bill promote the idea of another 100K drug obsessed police on the prowl, but he’s responsible for initiating the program giving the government the ability to tap the phones of up to 100,000 people in the event of a national emergency.

    In the 2016 election, bureaucrats will have much for which to atone. Self-flagellation won’t be enough. They will need to do more. 2016 is a long time in the future on the political timekeeping scale. We and the rest of the world still have the United Nations’ UNGASS conference pending in April, 2016, a few more miracle cures from marijuana to discover, and more murders and major catastrophe’s to endure from prohibition, until the president and congress acts.

  14. Servetus says:

    Bone healing is the latest medical use to be discovered for CBD:

    July 16, 2015–A new study published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research by Tel Aviv University and Hebrew University researchers explores another promising new medical application for marijuana. According to the research, the administration of the non-psychotropic component cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) significantly helps heal bone fractures. The study, conducted on rats with mid-femoral fractures, found that CBD—even when isolated from tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the major psychoactive component of cannabis—markedly enhanced the healing process of the femora after just eight weeks.

    The research was led jointly by Dr. Yankel Gabet of the Bone Research Laboratory at the Department of Anatomy and Anthropology at TAU’s Sackler Faculty of Medicine and the late Prof. Itai Bab of Hebrew University’s Bone Laboratory.[…]

    “The clinical potential of cannabinoid-related compounds is simply undeniable at this point,” said Dr. Gabet. “While there is still a lot of work to be done to develop appropriate therapies, it is clear that it is possible to detach a clinical therapy objective from the psychoactivity of cannabis. CBD, the principal agent in our study, is primarily anti-inflammatory and has no psychoactivity.”

    Growers focusing strictly on CBD cannabinoid production are likely to get a marketing boost from this new study.

  15. claygooding says:

    UPDATE: Charges Dropped Against Okla. Veteran Treating His PTSD With Marijuana

    “With children present this is a bad situation gone worse for the whole entire family,” Comanche County Sheriff Kenny Stradley told Oklahoma’s KSWO.

    Just in case you think bitching on Facebook or Twitter has no effect.

    • kaptinemo says:

      Behold the power of that new electorate I keep talking about. Here it is, in action. Unmistakable.

      All of this happened within days. The (comparatively, relatively) small amount of pressure applied, the desired result manifests. Indisputable. Undeniable.

      Now, imagine that going full-bore, all the time…from the biggest voting bloc in America, that crosses nearly all demographics.

      Behold YOUR power, reformers.

      Time to do some more of that-there manifesting…

    • DdC says:

      This just in on the 6 o’clock news at 11. Well it seems it is officially a THUD! What next, Marijuana dispensaries save lives, new study shows

  16. Duncan20903 says:


    Well, whod’a thunk it?

    New home construction jammed up in metro Denver

    Demand for new houses remains strong, but homebuilders struggle to keep pace

  17. jean valjean says:

    Bill Clinton offers a half apology and weasel words for the drug war:

    “I wish you had no narco-trafficking, but it’s not really your fault,” Clinton said. “Basically, we did too good of a job of taking the transportation out of the air and water, and so we ran it over land. I apologize for that.”

    Don’t see Hillary proposing to do much about the mess he created, should she be elected.

    • Frank W. says:

      The more I hear Clinton speak, the more I see the fat aging face of the Establishment’s drug war. He’s made the deals that he will never mention, shook the hands he will never say he shook, Honored the Precepts, and put a wide, wide banner over the corpses. Study his poise, Barry.

      • DdC says:

        My theory is that slick Wilber was shacking up with sir Hilary in Berzerkeley when she was lawyering defense for radical groups. Pillow talking inside info that Slick gave to Bush and the CIA. Got him a scholarship to Oxford where he probably tried sabotaging the Brits antiwar movement. Then handed the governorship of Arkansas. Where Bobby Sands was dumping loads of coke. Where Asa Hutchinson the supposed nemesis during the Monikagate was DA of all of western Ark. Setting up the Iran Contra deals. Then again when Bush was waning in the polls and Ross Perot was gaining. Always in the background, Bush had his old buddy Ross drop out giving it to his protege WJC. Then with McCaffrey and his background in Nam opiates. Plus all of the death and destruction to make it all fall into place. Including Gore’s Occidental Oil under Colombian Native burial grounds. Prompting Plan Colombia. mho…

        Asa Isa Assa
        Clinton Quiet About Own Radical Ties
        Clinton Asks Supreme Court To Overturn MMJ Ruling

    • B. Snow says:

      I’m betting you will… (Jean)

      It will be ‘qualified’ & ‘nuanced’ for sure, but she will have to validate the drug reform crowds’ message = As a legitimate/sizable portion of the American populace (regardless of political party) -IF- she wants to be elected.

      And you know she does – bad enough to make Bill come out and publically apologize “properly” and directly. [I don’t expect all-out *self-flagellation*, but he/they will continue to say “I was wrong”.]

      Sometimes only the person who “broke it” can “fix it”. Or rather, “mend it” as it can arguably never be completely repaired or *made right*.

      But, I expect several Pols will try – as they very quickly/sharply realize [putting it very politically incorect] that in 2016 = “Stoners” will outnumber the “Bible-Thumpers” significantly.

      I seriously suspect that these days, the Venn Diagram depicting these groups actually (anonymously) overlaps like never before.

      I’d go even further and bet that a similar Venn Diagram of “cannabis users who don’t drink alcohol” AND “people that describe themselves as Christians but aren’t actively part of an organized religion”, (aka Non-denominational Protestants) will [or already do] overlap in a markedly significant number.

      • jean valjean says:

        Meanwhile….. hundreds of thousands continue to languish in jail, live without their children, are in exile, are banned from working in most federal or state government jobs, are humiliated and marginalized at every opportunity, are denied most benefits, have their homes invaded and their families and pets shot …..etc etc ……while Bill wrings his hands with this b.s. mea culpa. He and his drug war partner in crime Newt Gingrich have done irreparable harm to the American people (not to mention humanity in general) and should be facing a war-crimes trial rather than being lauded as some sort of elder statesman by the MSM. There are few politicians in America who sicken me more than the Clintons. As Bill didn’t say: “It’s the hypocrisy, stupid.”

        • DdC says:

          “It’s the hypocrisy, stupid.”

          That is the point. The base kept Clinton a hypocrite where the rep base cheered drug worriers. If Bush gets selected then Hilary is the only one with enough clout to beat him. If Trump gets selected then I’d say Bernie would be the popular choice to win. Either way it would be best for all if Obama removed it as a controlled substance and started winding down the drug war before turning over the reigns.

  18. Augustine Aloysius Custard says:

    DENVER — A Denver woman has been acquitted of driving stoned, even though she tested nearly four times above the state’s legal limit for marijuana.

    Melanie Brinegar’s blood came back at 19 nanograms, the state’s legal limit is 5 nanograms. “5 nanograms is not logical, it`s not fair to medical patients,” said Brinegar.

    “I’m constantly in pain if I don’t use cannabis,” said Brinegar.

    The Denver woman works at a medical marijuana dispensary and was heading to work when Westminster police said she failed a roadside sobriety test.

    But Brinegar’s attorney, Colin McCallin, convinced a Jefferson County jury that Brinegar’s roadside results wouldn’t be unusual for a sober person and insisted she wasn’t impaired when she was stopped.

  19. DdC says:


    You don’t vote for the person running for president.
    You vote for the base who will either try to hold them accountable or a base that sides with them. That is your choices. 3rd parties are for spreading truth, not holding National office. Not yet.

  20. Duncan20903 says:


    I’ve just realized that as of last month it has been a full decade since the SCOTUS published it’s ruling in Gonzales v. Raich (previously Ashcroft v. Raich), 545 U.S. 1 (2005)

    While poking around trying to find out if that ruling also held that the California Compassionate Use Act was not in conflict with the the Federal Controlled Substances Act I realized that this is a perfect segue to ridiculing one of the most annoying historical boils on the collective buttocks of the American citizenry, so here goes:

    A Defeat For Users Of Medical Marijuana
    By Charles Lane
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, June 7, 2005

    “Today’s decision marks the end of medical marijuana as a political issue,” said John P. Walters, President Bush’s director of national drug control policy. “Our nation has the highest standards and most sophisticated institutions in the world for determining the safety and effectiveness of medication. Our national medical system relies on proven scientific research, not popular opinion.”

    Quoting Nelson Muntz: “Ha ha”

    • kaptinemo says:

      Another example of that high-altitude, low-oxy ivory tower ‘thinking’ they engage in. Making such ‘royal decree’ pronouncements like that, like they’re the Pope or something.

      Remember the DEA’s 2003 ‘Fnal Ruling’ on hemp that turned out not to be so ‘final’, after all. Hemp – and reformers – won.

      DEA was reminded of the power they did not have, but had sought to grab, hoping that precedent would make policy. They got their pinkies burned pretty good in that instance.

      Because of the Internet, this may be the first instance in Human history where nearly all the factors in a social paradigm change can be monitored. Social historians are watching the process of reform as it is playing out very, very carefully.

      But, also, because we have the advantage of the Internet as Humanity’s Memory Alpha, we get to rub Prohib faces in every single bit of their past lies and arrogance until Eternity.

      And the purveyors of prohibition, from now on, will be hearing the playback of their manic pronouncements dinned in their ears and splashed in their eyes whenever they try to play innocent about their involvement in retarding progress on this issue, prior to re-legalization.

      Never forget what misery and death they’ve subjected this country and the world to.

      And never let them forget, either.

      • jean valjean says:

        Speaking of which….. I know Leonhart is “retiring” but has she actually gone yet? Who is her replacement? No doubt she’s polishing up her resume and calling up her drug war profiteer buddies on Wall St. Time to return the favor, guys…

  21. DdC says:

    How the Library of Congress just gave Earth’s top stoner the Gershwin Prize: via @cannabist

    Legal Cannabis Could Help Re-Establish the Middle Class

    Marijuana Legalization 2015: PTSD And Cannabis — Can Researchers Cut Through The Politics To Find Out Whether Weed Works?

    The Real Story Behind the Founding of 710

    The Waldos have MULTIPLE pieces of physical evidence / proof that they were using the term ‘420’ in cannabis context dating back to the early 1970’s,

  22. Servetus says:

    Genetics research at the University of Minnesota has just given US law enforcement the ability to distinguish hemp from marijuana:

    17-July-2015 — The discovery of a single gene distinguishing the two varieties, which according to Weiblen took more than 12 years of research, could strengthen hemp producers’ argument that their products should not be subject to the same narcotics laws as hemp’s cannabinoid cousin. Since 1970, all Cannabis plants have been classified as controlled substances by the federal government, but nearly half of all states, including Minnesota, now define hemp as distinct from marijuana. Efforts to revise hemp’s U.S. legal status so that it could again be cultivated commercially have gained momentum in recent years.[…]

    “It’s a plant of major economic importance that is very poorly understood scientifically. With this study, we have indisputable evidence for a genetic basis of differences among Cannabis varieties,” says Weiblen, “further challenging the position that all Cannabis should be regulated as a drug.”

    Should some entrepreneur decide to produce a simple PCR test kit for field use, law enforcement in the states recognizing hemp as a separate plant variety will have a means of identifying it, thereby making possible state-legalized hemp cultivation in states where marijuana is still illegal.

    Prohibitionists will continue to lack the ability to make the distinction, however, as everyone knows prohibs don’t need no stinkin’ science.

    • Tony Aroma says:

      Such a test would be great and one less excuse to classify hemp as a drug. But even without the test, it’s pretty easy to tell hemp from marijuana. So it’s not like not being able to tell the difference has ever been a very good reason.

      I don’t understand why no one has filed a petition with the DEA to de-schedule hemp. I think it would be hard for even the DEA to come up with a reason to include hemp as a controlled substance. Their ONLY current reason is that it looks similar to marijuana. There’s no other reason they can possibly come up with that makes sense even to a prohibitionist, since it’s the only non-drug on a schedule of drugs. By that logic, sugar should be a controlled substance because it looks little like heroin.

      • DdC says:

        Seriously? Competition to the status weird is why Hemp is considered Ganja. The claim they make is growers would camouflage Ganja in Hemp fields due to Science being banned from policy and none of the numbnuts ever learned about pollination. They have sued several times and my blue jeans are still considered a schedule#1 highly addictive menace for American farmers to grow.

        Urgent Warning About Industrial Hemp
        1. DEA INTERPRETIVE RULE. First, the DEA will be interpreting the Controlled Substances Act and its own regulations as declaring any products that contain any amounts of THC to be a Schedule 1 Controlled Substance, even though such products are made from portions of the cannabis plant that are excluded from the definition of marijuana. However, the DEA also will publish in the Fed. Register a
        Proposed Rule and Interim Rule, the latter of which will create exemptions to its Interpretive Rule. Otherwise, as DEA notes, its Interpretive Rule standing alone would declare as “controlled substances” a wide variety of cannabis derived products historically allowed by the federal government. For example, hemp based paper, hemp clothing, hemp rope, and bird seed containing hemp all would be
        considered a Schedule 1 controlled substance under the DEA Interpretive Rule if they contained any trace amounts of naturally occurring THC.

        Support The Industrial Hemp Farming Act
        Passage of HR 1831 would remove existing federal barriers and allow states that wish to regulate commercial hemp production the authority to do so.

        Wyden Fails as Statesman after Hemp Bill Ignored
        After his federal industrial hemp bill failed to move forward late last week, Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden wagged his finger in shame not at the closed-minded Senate that wouldn’t work with Wyden, but at marijuana users.

        DEA Permits Hawaii To Plant Industrial Hemp December 13, 1999
        After three years, the dedication and tenacity of Hawaii State Representative Cynthia Thielen paid off last May when the legislation to conduct the research needed to initiate the recovery of the industrial hemp crop in the United States passed in Hawaii. Governor Cayetano signed the industrial hemp bill into law and the political minutia building up to the seed planting again ensued.

        “The project was made possible by a $200,000 grant from hemp shampoo maker Alterna’s Professional Hair Care Products,” explained Thielen. “Due to Alterna’s financial support, the construction for the facility for the one-quarter acre industrial hemp plot began.”

        Built exactly per the strict requirements set forth by the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), the one-quarter acre is surrounded by chain length fencing with razor wire top, and a 24-hour infrared security system. Construction was completed in September, allowing for the state permit application to be submitted. The state permit issued in October and the federal permit application was submitted promptly to the DEA.

        With the guidance of Thielen hot on the Fed’s heals, the final and most difficult leg of the now four-year conquest was granted to Hawaii a month later. Hawaii is currently the only state in the United States to obtain permission from the DEA to grow industrial hemp following WWII.

        Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or Ganja//Hemp.

        Farmers have a dearth of options. The dilemma of the American farmer is aggravating for Kentucky Hemp Growers Cooperative president, Andrew Graves, who spearheaded the lawsuit filed against the DEA last year, in an effort to allow Kentucky tobacco farmers the right to grow industrial hemp in lieu of their diminishing tobacco crops.

    • DdC says:

      The obvious answer is…

      “law enforcement in the states
      recognizing hemp as a separate plant variety
      will have a means of identifying”

      Don’t hire blind law enforcement. next…
      United States National Institute of Health, University of Mississippi marijuana plantation site, showing variation in plant size. A tall fiber-type of hemp plant is shown at left, and a short narcotic variety (identified as “Panama Gold”) at right.

      DEA Permits Hawaii To Plant Industrial Hemp in 1999.
      So many restrictions they closed down a few years later.

      Doesn’t that just get ya all red white and blue tingly…
      The DEA permits Hawaii? The DEA permits Hawaii?

  23. DdC says:

    Hawaii Hemp Advocate Wins Right to Sue! June 11, 1999

  24. tensity1 says:

    Has anyone noticed that Donald Trump is supposedly raising the ire of El Chapo Guzman?

    • Duncan20903 says:


      I’m going to emigrate if the idiot citizenry actually elects Mr. Trump. I just don’t have the words required to explain just how profoundly I hate the phrase “federal law trumps State law!” Good golly, the use of that phrase would be insufferably constant with him playing the POTUS on TV.

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