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Perry and Mexico

Perry: Send U.S. troops to Mexico to fight drug wars

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Saturday that he would consider sending U.S. troops into Mexico to combat drug-related violence and stop it from spilling into the southern United States.

“It may require our military in Mexico,” Perry said in answer to a question about the growing threat of drug violence along the southern border. Perry offered no details, and a spokesman, Robert Black, said afterward that sending troops to Mexico would be merely one way of putting an end to the exploding cartel-related violence in the region.

Black said Perry’s intention is to work with the Mexican government, but he declined to specify whether Perry is amenable to sending troops into Mexico with or without the country’s consent.

“If he were president he would do what it takes,” Black said. “The governor said, ‘I’m going to work with the Mexican government to do what’s necessary.’ ”

Based on reading the whole article, it appears to me less that Perry is really thinking about sending troops into Mexico, but rather that he hadn’t really thought anything through at all, and that’s the first thing that popped up in his head at the time of the question. And now his spokesperson is trying to justify what he said.

That doesn’t make me any more confident about Perry. It’s just a matter of figuring out what kind of stupid he is.

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22 comments to Perry and Mexico

  • claygooding

    He has the IQ of an ice cube. And just as with an ice cube melting,,,his answers always fit in the container he melts them into.

  • Duncan20903

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    What is this silliness about Rick Perry thinking?
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    I just had occasion to Google — “swiss hat program” statistics

    I got 5 items returned. The 5th was from a putz named Ethan Epstein Epstein of “true”/slant, “Drug War ‘Failure’ Is Not An Argument Against The Drug War” and the first 4 were links to Drugwarrant.com even after accepting the invitation to “show more results from drugwarrant.com”.
    “Sorry, no more results to show”.

    Sigh, sometimes I feel so alone.

  • JDV

    Mexico tried the military solution… it doesn’t work.

  • claygooding

    Our government has promised Mexico 1.4 billion dollars to help them in their effort,,spread out over four years,,,and the last report I saw on it,,we still had not given them but about 1/3 of that.

    The American people are giving the cartels 80 billion dollars a year,,,and we are never late with our monies.

  • didn’t this latest Texas dumbass also blurt this out last year (maybe the year before, I don’t remember, been at it so long the timelines blur easily) and cause a minor brouhaha then?

    And yes, I think the notion of Perry thinking a silly idea indeed…

  • claygooding

    The petition on re-scheduling cannabis has made the list at the petition site,,should make it to 5k by next weekend,,,I hope.
    560 sigs today,

  • ezrydn

    It also shows the dumb sob has no clue as to international affairs. Calderon cannot give permission for US troops to enter Mexico. Try reading the Constitution of the Republic, Rickybob. So, invasion is Rick’s only alternative to his piehole. Is he ready for that fiasco?

    • Paul

      Isn’t the DEA running around inside of Mexico? We don’t call them troops, but the fact is they are foreign agents pursuing a foreign country’s policy on Mexican soil.

      I think that, regardless of what President Perry wants to do the Mexicans are very, very tired of this war and intend to sharply reduce its scale. They’re not going to invite the American army to come into the country and shoot Mexicans.

      As for entering Mexico against their wishes, that is unthinkable. Even suggesting such a thing is outrageous. Perry talks big, but I can’t imagine he would go so far.

  • Servetus

    Rootin’ Tootin’ Perry needs to forget about the U.S. military. He should just take his pearl handled six-gun down to Mexico and show Texans and the cartels what a tough hombre he is. I’d even be willing to chip in and buy Governor Perry a one way ticket to Ciudad Juarez. No need for a return ticket, of course. He won’t be needing one.

  • What else can be expected of a country that swaggers about lecturing everybody about the rule of law, democracy and human rights, but ignores international law, practices extraordinary rendition, tortures, wages illegal wars, finances mercenaries, uses unmanned drones to carry out extra-judicial killings, and is the largest beneficiary of the war on drugs proceeds.

    The policy of the USA,the largest drug consumer in the world and the most belligerent war on drugs warrior, has always been to force others to deal with the mess they have created in the first place.

    Forty years ago a callous, cynical Dick, Richard Nixon that is, declared that the USA was at war … at war with drugs. As history keeps reminding us, in order to stop USA citizens challenging its internal institutions and saving it from showing its undemocratic colours (think Anti Vietnam Protests, the Civil Rights Movement, Anti Globalisation Demonstrations, etc., etc.) the USA “exports” its internal conflicts and demands other countries to fight its fights. Instead of putting its own house in order and face the consequences for doing so, the USA puts the onus on others and expects them to pay the lion’s share of the political and social costs of its policies.

    The so-called War on Drugs is no exception. It is a clear example of the way in which the USA has turned its internal affairs into an external war; a war where drug producing countries are doing the fighting, and in the process, paying the highest price imaginable.

    Gart Valenc
    http://www.stopthewarondrugs.org

  • Sandhillpam

    He has brought up the idea before:
    “The Republican has long urged beefed-up security on the American side of the violence-plagued border, but he said stronger tactics are needed to defeat the drug cartels.
    “You have a situation on the border where American citizens are being killed, and you didn’t see that back when George Bush was the governor,” Perry said in an interview with MSNBC.
    Asked whether the U.S. should consider deploying troops inside Mexico, Perry said the federal government should consider all options “including the military.”(http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/state-politics/20101119-Perry-backs-sending-U-S-5391.ece)

    Here’s a good read – Fred Reed’s take on the idea:
    “Let’s Invade Mexico!
    Let’s take poison. Let’s ride a motorcycle blind-folded, and other bright ideas.” (http://www.fredoneverything.net/Lumbo.shtml)

  • Rick Perry is the archetypical representative of US psyche. The tragedy for Latin America is that when it comes to foreign policy, it is irrelevant who is elected as US president. Paraphrasing Carlos Fuentes, a prominent Mexican writer, the only way the US can sustain its democratic façade internally is by behaving undemocratically externally.

    Gart Valenc
    http://www.stopthewarondrugs.org

  • ezrydn

    Big, BIG difference between TROOPS and AGENTS, my friend. Consulate officials are “foreign agents,” remember? As for armed combat troops, it’s forbidden. There is a “national pride” here that you no longer find in the US. Any US field detachment would be surrounded, both by good and bad. No artillery fire bases. You good with that? I’m a combat vet and I wouldn’t enter an operation with those specs. There were 5. Now, there’s 2. Why do you want to do what they’re doing for you??

    • darkcycle

      Ez, I started three different posts listing the reasons that would be a BAD idea, but they all got too long. I wandered around my house mumbling to myself about 1500 mile long land borders, cartels and the Mexican Government, second and THIRD fronts, thousands and thousands of square miles of desert between the major population centers and the Northern border, the Mexican pride, economic disruption, oil supply disruption, food supply disruption, etc, for an hour. Then I gave up. Even an idiot like Perry couldn’t be that stupid.

  • claygooding

    The powers that be had better consider that the illicit drug market is about the only market doing good right now,,,no banks or financial institutions involved,,,allegedly.

  • Capo

    What is it with Texans and the White House? Please not another, we’ve had way more than enough.

  • Dante

    Darkcycle said:
    “Even an idiot like Perry couldn’t be that stupid.”

    Oh, yes he could. Never underestimate the stupidity of politicians, as stupidity increases when combined with blind ambition, corruption and legal authority.