So lonely

This article is hilarious.

The lonely lot of the anti-pot crusader in the Washington Post.

McCormick says he knew of no group fighting the initiative, heard no opposition to it in his church and got no traction for his anti-weed views on his vibrant Twitter account, @blackmanhelping, where he opines on local affairs. McCormick, a construction project manager, considered challenging the ballot initiative himself, but he ultimately realized the futility of fighting an army of marijuana advocates.

Such is the lonely lot of today’s pot opponent. Parents like McCormick, once heroes of the just-say-no 1980s, find themselves outgunned: The anti-marijuana movement has little funding or staff, little momentum and, it appears, little audience. […]

“These guys are in a full-court press coming at you from every angle,” says DuPont, 78, who runs the small, Rockville-based Institute for Behavior and Health. He sounds exasperated. “They have a bench 1,000 people deep. . . . We’ve got Kevin Sabet.”

Hilarious. Also ridiculous in the sense that they still have the entire federal government and its agencies (though that, hopefully, will change), plus all sorts of groups who profit from the drug war (like law enforcement, etc.).

But still, it’s fun to read in a tables-turning sort of way.

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63 Responses to So lonely

  1. DdC says:

    Paranoia strikes deep
    Into your life it will creep
    It starts when you’re always afraid
    Step out of line, the men come and take you away

  2. claygooding says:

    LMAO..I can’t think of a better group of people for loneliness to strike for the rest of their lives.

  3. allan says:

    Oh lordy! that just warms the cockles of my heart. Thanks for the big Tuesday grin Pete!

    They have a bench 1,000 people deep

    No shit. The advantage of having a reallllllllly long couch.

    We’ve got Kevin Sabet.

    🙂 No shit. The disadvantage of covering yourself in manure.

  4. Tony Aroma says:

    Maybe he should strike up a friendship with the Maytag repairman.

  5. claygooding says:

    The Outlaw Jersey Whale is heading for CO on a campaign trip for the (R) candidate there,,I hope the heads in CO give him the type of reception he deserves.

  6. kaptinemo says:

    (Uproarious, side-splitting laughter, catching breath) Oh, my! Oh, jeez! Where to begin?

    Well, first off, I was right about Sabet being the only one amongst the prohibs slick enough to represent them…and I mean the only one. DuPont just confirmed it. Expose Sabet for the mendacious fraud he is, and they have to fold their PR campaign…pathetic as it is. In the Information Age, lies have as much of a half-life as an ice cube in a blow-torch flame.

    Secondly, they’re the ones with the deep pockets, as Pete and others have pointed out. And yet, with that huge advantage, they can win only a very few converts? Hmmm. I wonder why. Must have been the above-mentioned mendacity that turned most people off.

    Not to mention the annoying, unwarranted and undesired authoritarian bent to all their messages. Bound to rankle any adult to be treated as perpetual wards of The State…which is just what drug prohibition does; reducing putative adults to exactly that position vis-a-vis that same State. For, if you are not sovereign over your own person, you are not free, period

    Oh, Hell, I’m preaching to the choir, again. Sorry. I think I’ll take my bile and squirt it in the eyes of the prohibs over at the WaPo…where they can’t miss it.

    • Tony Aroma says:

      For, if you are not sovereign over your own person, you are not free.

      And if you are not free, then by definition you are a slave. Which is why prohibition, or any law that takes away your personal sovereignty, is a violation of the 13th Amendment. Wonder why no one’s ever challenged the CSA for that reason. Seems like a slam dunk.

  7. allan says:

    hey mates, OT but figgered I’d throw it out there. Ya know that veteran PTSD study the Sue Sisely got fored over in AZ? Well, as you may (or may not) know, her study was blocked from receiving intended state funds from a bill killed by state rep Kim Yee. ms Yee is up for re-election this year. If you have friends in AZ, expecially if their veterans or pot heads, give ‘e, the heads up.

    In Oregon we had the NotDwight campaign. I’d be glad to help AZ have a NotYee campaign.

    • claygooding says:

      I have heard from two sources that Yee is not anti-MMJ but that they were awarding a study to someone besides her choice of recipients,,,greed strike even among advocates and supporters and the guilty should be shunned for letting their greed override their conscience,,,a questionable trait among most politicians and a lot of other people.


      • Recall:
        The group Arizona Veterans Assistance Committee filed a petition against Yee on April 7, 2014, for using her position as Chair of the Senate Education Committee to kill a bill on marijuana research already unanimously approved by the House.

        HB2333, sponsored by Rep. Ethan Orr (R), would allow some of the taxes collected from the sale of medical marijuana to go towards marijuana research on university campuses. Yee, who sponsored legislation allowing university research in 2013, stated that the medical marijuana tax fund was only to be used for public service announcements to help prevent drug abuse.

        Supporters of the recall need to collect 18,297 valid signatures by August 2 to take the recall to a vote. The petition filed with the Arizona Secretary of State lists former Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate Marc Victor as the recall committee’s chairman and marijuana reform attorney Thomas W. Dean as the applicant. Kathy Inman, Arizona’s Director of the National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws, is the group’s secretary.

        I am not so sure about your sources Clay. She sounds like a candidate for a friend position with Kevin.

        • B. Snow says:

          To the best of my recollection Ms.Yee was on, and often still appears to be on the the right side of this issue. BUT, she’s been pretty flip-floppy on specific related votes, proposals, and, well… Crap like this.

          IMO – She should be regarded as suspect until she goes on public record with a distinct pro-marijuana public & even then – henceforth be continually scrutinized = because she seems to vote based on whose watching, and we need to nudge/remind her she IS being watched regarding her “sketchy” (possibly waffling) votes/views on related legislation & such.

          Somebody, who uses an RSS reader should consider putting an RSS alert on her or ‘Google Alert’?
          I’ve never really used either one, or I would do this myself.

          For that matter, “We” (as a group) might think about divvying-up all the various legislators and people like Ms. Yee – and “following” each/all of them individually, so as to be 100% certain we’re “keeping them honest” about all of this.

          What do y’all think?
          Honestly, IDK how much work it would actually be – I might be persuaded to figure-out the workings of that stuff, and help – if needed.

        • claygooding says:

          As was told to me she had a different person for the study lined up,,they passed over her suggestion and she responded by throwing a wrench in the works,,but like Snow,,she bears watching,,she is willing to allow patients to suffer in order to further her or someone else’s agenda.

    • War Vet says:

      How does one work with the name Yee in a catchy way? Lord of the Rings: ‘Yee shall not Pass’? ‘Yee shall go out of office and sin no more’? Something Christmasy: Yee hates merry gentle men and women’? ‘Yee is Arizona’s crippled knee’? ‘Yee is a broken key’? ‘Yee stings veterans like a bee'(wtf)? ‘Yee is lost at sea’? ‘Yee hates me’? ‘Yee votes like pee’? . . .

    • DdC says:

      Republican State Senator Kimberly Yee blocks PTSD study

      • B. Snow says:

        Okay, after seeing her more recent remarks – this one sticks out at me as the most important – and sign that she’s gone beyond the point of public redemption:

        “Senator Yee’s biggest problem with the bill is she feels backers of the scientific study want to legalize marijuana, as in Colorado or Washington state.”

        “Oh noes, God forbid the want to ‘Legalize It’ = To Hell with the PTSD sufferers, There might be teenagers out there who’re getting stoned…”
        aka = “Think of the Chitlins”

        Might be young people getting stoned Indeed! = Like that would be a new “thing”… Something, that doesn’t currently exist in her version/perception of reality!

        I stand corrected, While previously willing to give her the benefit of the doubt… At this point – I say to hell with her and suggest we no longer address her respectfully – or by her real name.

        I’m thinking, “Mizz Yee”, or “Miz-Erh-Yee”, perhaps “Mizz-Durh-Yee”?

  8. allan says:

    a couple of more thoughts…

    Boo f’ing Hoo!


    That Sabet comment is quite the sign. I revel, celebrate and declare a group bong/vape/doob holiday! Calvina has become irrelevant to the discussion!

    Oh glorious day! Kaloo kalay! All that snicker-snatting was well worth that accomplishment alone. There was a day when Calvina ruled as Queen of Prohibition Harpies. She’d speak before Congress and had reps crawling up her skirt trying to kiss her ass.
    Ding Dong, the witch is dead!

    heh… 😀

    • kaptinemo says:

      The Undead require special procedures to make sure they stay interred.

      Unfortunately for them, being an engineer, I am a big believer in triple redundancy.

      A good thing I like woodworking after-hours. I’m making a wooden stake with her name on it. I can buy a crucifix cheap, but I need to make a small foundry for the hollow-pointed, garlic-juice filled silver bullets. Normally a terrible waste of good metal, but in this case worth the expense.

      You have to make sure of them…or you’ll feel their prohib teeth and claws again on your rights, if not your throat, the first chance they get. That’s how they are.

  9. Duncan20903 says:


    Oh now that’s a dictionary picture worthy example of being damned with faint praise. It’s also quite a black swan because I can’t recall ever thinking that someday I might agree with something that Dr. Bobby said. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again…I just can’t imagine choosing anyone other than Kev-Kev to be the face of Big Prohibition. Partner him up with Stupid Patrick and we could be looking at a combined sequel to both Weekend At Bernie’s and Dumb and Dumber. Hopefully they’ll cast Ren and Stimpy as Kev-Kev and Stupid Patrick respectively.

    In honor of this event here’s a link to Kim Jong il’s virtuoso performance of I’m So Ronery from back in 2004. Fuck yeah!

    I think that Dr. Bobby might be the very first prohibitionist parasite to actually figure out what’s going on. Stick a fork in prohibition people, I think it’s done.

  10. free radical says:

    Best quote:
    “I feel blessed by someone like Kevin,” St. Pierre says. “Since he has come on the scene we have prevailed, prevailed, prevailed. We could use 500 Kevins.”

    Most gratifying. All the anger I felt listening to that mass of protoplasm (kevbo) in debates, now turns to relief as I see my anger reflected in the public’s rapidly changing attitudes. k’s perfect articulation of the prohibitionist position lays it bare as so much anti-scientific, moralistic, paternalistic garbage, to put it lightly.

    • allan says:

      k’s perfect articulation of the prohibitionist position lays it bare as so much anti-scientific, moralistic, paternalistic garbage, to put it lightly.

      You are just so polite!

  11. Matthew Meyer says:

    The article suggests it’s going to explain *why* the tides have turned, but it never states what’s obvious to us: it’s harder to get away with lies about pot because of the Internet.

    • claygooding says:

      Fact,,as allan and others here can tell you,,responding to propganda via a an op-ed took 10 days to 2 weeks,,,instantaneous carpet bombing is a destructive medium

      • kaptinemo says:

        Especially when the lies are so blatant.

        Kevin: “They have money and we don’t.”

        Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that. I can’t afford a new monitor. Which brings me to the main point.

        Compared to us fiscally, they are like some hugely obese man, with dangling lobes of fat hanging off every appendage, pointing to an anorexic (the reformer) and complaining the walking skeleton eats too much.

        They cannot possibly be so lacking in irony…or self-awareness. But they do have a very low opinion of the public, if they think they can snooker the people with that kind of quickly-fact-checked bilge.

        Too much anoxia from all that ivory tower residence is finally getting to him if he thinks he can pull that off.

        • claygooding says:

          Corporations can buy legislator and legislature but they cannot buy the people,,if we could look at the “private investors” that donate to the grants for law enforcement the corporations/lobbies depending on the government continuing hemp/marijuana prohibition would be exposed so the public can understand just why all we are still getting is memo’s and a vote in the House that still cannot protect the banks from seizures,,they are attempting to keep marijuana Schedule 1 and write banking regulations for it anyway and I see nothing but land mines for the banks and marijuana businesses that try to use them.
          That is a lot of money going into politicians pockets right there so I will hold my cheers back until the day they remove marijuana from Schedule 1.

        • Windy says:

          clay, how about waiting to cheer until it is completely removed from the damn CSA, altogether; having it in schedule II or III is almost as bad for users as schedule I.

        • claygooding says:

          Wendy,,S-2 and S-3 removes control of research on marijuana and the govt monopoly on where the marijuana used for the tests is produced,,can you imagine the GoldStandard climical trials done with govt weed being done with some White Widow or Blue Dreams?
          They know that,,it is game over if it is removed from DEA control.

        • Duncan20903 says:

          Can you say Uruguay clay? I think you can.

        • Tim says:

          Deep pockets for repeal? What horseshit. Since 1997 I figure I’ve dumped about $80K out of my own pocket to help end prohibition. Where’s my tax credit, Kevin?

      • allan says:

        there was a day when some activists dismissed online commenting as ineffective at best. But it was in John Kerry’s campaign that we set the bar. Dumbass Kerry had his own website with an open forum.

        We kicked it! We stayed at the top of the most visited/commented and we maintained our civility to the max. They tried to shuffle us around, dismiss us, ignore us, but even back then we had a bench that went waaay deep and a lot of the org bigwigs came to beat the drum.

        In fact it was at that site that I got turned on to Pete’s DWR. My skinny ass has been parked here since.

        And me being me, I emailed the author of the piece, gently chided him for not including LEAP and pointed to you all here on the couch as a stellar example of that 1,000 person bench.

        Have no doubt mates, a lot of the changes you see today have been fueled by our collective pirating.

        And tho’ we get a chance here to dance a little jig there’s still a lot to be done. Sooo much to be done.

        Another sign of progress? How long has it been since anyone has let loose with a thud? If we thudded ’em all lately … crikey we’d be covered in debris. But, I do think that Mr Leiby’s piece is worth one eh?


        • claygooding says:

          Shortly before Kerry’s campaign is when I became activated again allan,,and I went to work at the #1 marijuana site at that time for about three years,,spreading any knowledge and information to anyone looking for it,,I stumbled in the door and sat on the couch while I ws still moderating but when we geared up the carpet bombing(and the site went corporate run)I dropped out of education and went into smart-assed country boy mode.

          For all couch sitters:

  12. darkcycle says:

    Bugger me, I posted this comment there at least six hours ago, and damn it, it’s gone… “Money…like the anti pot people have ever lacked for money. I call B.S. Over the last 40 years the United States has spent over a TRILLION DOLLARS on the drug war. More and more every minute. They spent 1.4 BILLION dollars between 1998 and 2006 through NIDA alone to spread specifically anti-marijuana propaganda. And they did it with tax dollars extorted from the American people. DuPont whines about well funded legalizers?? BULLPUCKY. ” National Institute on Drug Abuse reported that the government’s ad campaign aimed at dissuading teens from using marijuana, a campaign that cost $1.4 billion between 1998 and 2006, did not work: “greater exposure to the campaign was associated with weaker anti-drug norms and increases in the perceptions that others use marijuana.” The research company was paid $42.7 million for the five-year study. After the February 2005 report was received, the office continued the ad campaign, spending $220 million on the anti-marijuana ads in fiscal years 2005 and 2006.[19]” From Wiki.”
    What do you think? Was it “Bullpucky”?

  13. strayan says:

    “They have money and we don’t.”

    That’s because you and the other drug warriors already spent it all.

  14. sudon't says:

    Another problem the article makes clear is the problem with journalism in this country – this notion that “objectivity” means giving equal play to an opposing view, right or wrong, rather than facts.

    • kaptinemo says:

      My opinion concerning that is that it’s a matter of guilt…on the LameStream Media’s part.

      For years, Hell, for decades, the LSM acted as happily panting, fluffy little lapdogs, rarely if ever challenging ‘authorities’ regarding their pronouncements on illegal drugs…while quite a few of them were inveterate tokers, themselves, and knew the truth as opposed to the ONDCP playbook lies they were being spoon-fed…and expected to regurgitate. And thus helped perpetuate an atrocity of international dimensions.

      And now? Now with public support for MMJ and re-legalization having reached the tipping point and rising ever higher, the LSM must find away to become relevant to those whom they once disparaged with condescending articles (Pothead’s dream of legalization goes up in smoke", that kind of bilge) about a life-or-death subject.

      They were, and in some cases still are, enablers of prohibition. And no amount of trying to sound ‘even-handed’ can disguise their past support of the indefensible.

      • primus says:

        Also the reason that newspaper and magazine readership is down dramatically–not reliable, not relevant.

  15. DdC says:

    This is totally the responsibility of drug worriers gossip. At the end of the day all of the future predictions and hobgoblins that never pan out but keep the war going result in dead kids. Murder that never gets people arrested, actually no less than government subsidized murder. Let it be known that this is the consequences of Sabet and Calvina. Time for Justice!

    9-Year-Old Girl’s Death Shines Light On Debate

  16. Sukoi says:

    Off topic but important:

    “WASHINGTON, D.C. – Sen. Rand Paul yesterday introduced S. 2644, the FAIR (Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration) Act, which would protect the rights of citizens and restore the Fifth Amendment’s role in seizing property without due process of law.”

    I’m liking this guy more and more every day…

    • Jeff Trigg says:

      Thank you for not demonizing someone who has benefited from the Koch brothers and their multi-millions donated to end the drug war, and who has inspired decentralized, federalist legislation from members of ALEC. Around here, libertarian ideas and actions like that, get attacked more often than not.

      Rand Paul runs circles around Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren on ending the drug war and basic civil liberties. And Joe “lock up Chong and his bong” Biden? Please. The lefties have NO ONE for 2016 that can hold a candle to Rand Paul on our issue, not even Bernie “marijuana isn’t an important issue” Sanders. Rand Paul is far from perfect, but he’s gobs better that what the lefty Democrats have to offer in 2016. Sure, they’ll try to paint him as a right-wing racist, corporate shill with their conspiracy theories, but the facts of his legislation introduced and votes cast should leave little doubt that he is the best choice toward ending the drug war so far.

      • allan says:

        Around here, libertarian ideas and actions like that, get attacked more often than not.

        Again, you underestimate your couchmates. I bet you could count the Joe Biden fans here on one hand and not raise a finger.

        That you are one of crouchiest commenters here might be part of feeling abused. As long as you’ve been parking here you must have realized some bark back.

        Which I suspect is why so many of us just don’t go there. There’s others that deserve our blows far more than anyone here. Anarchy is hell. People just speaking their minds and shit… what a concept.

        • B. Snow says:

          Absolutely Allan,

          I’ve been quite vocal about my disgust & despisal of Joe Biden, with long rants of my own about why I would never vote for or support him in any future candidacy – I supported Pres Obama in 2008 & was really bummed-out & highly suspicious about his choice of Biden as V.P.
          (As it turned out, rightly so!)

          I think it was in part specifically to re-assure the ‘drug-worriers’ that Joe would *keep young Barry in-line on the issue*, I’m not going to go thru it all again but you can google-back w/ the ‘advanced search’ and limit it so this site plus, “B.Snow” and “Joe Biden”…

          And find my thoughts on the man and his historic hand in all of this crapolla drug-war, including his Coining the term “Drug Czar” – while saying we “needed one” – after the Death of Len Bias – his response was Joe’s “Anti Drug Abuse Act of 1986”.

          Which – if he tried to get away with today – he would get called-out for “Concern Trolling” via Legislation!

          Or you could search for my heartfelt declarations of “Fuck Joe Biden!”, or actaully – let me do it for ya…
          OK, here you go, a couple of my best
          (Jan 28, 2014) AND (Apr 4, 2014)

          There’s no great love for the man around here, His latest crap – *that’s not really old* = he brought with him from his old Delaware Senate website. Is the whole “We don’t want treat this as a criminal justice issue – but instead as a public health issue.”

          Pres. Obama took this and (at least) went along with it & Kev-Kev incorporated it into his bullshit as well… Heck, part of that may have started w/ him for that matter – IDK if it was Biden who had him brought in or not?
          It could be more of a matter of “leaving him there” – from a prior administration, until such time as they wanted him “separate from government” – but still able to tout/brag about having a long government résumé = IDK?
          In a similar line/train-of-thought – I’ve often suggested (and its in fact my belief) that they intentionally left M. Leonhart in her acting director position as long as feasible, and eventually had Kerlikowski promote her because she’s a weak debater = with a storied past.
          One that allegedly includes – repeatedly associating w/ and using a Confidential Informant – known to have testified & lied on the stand – at the behest of the government, possibly at her direct request…
          Although, you’ll have to dig a bit for that story.
          Either way, let me state once more, for the record = Fuck Joe Biden!

      • DdC says:

        “There’s a sucker born every minute” is a phrase most likely spoken by David Hannum, in criticism of both P. T. Barnum, an American showman of the mid 1800s, and his customers. The phrase is often credited to Barnum himself. It means “Many people are gullible, and we can expect this to continue.”

        Rand Paul Suggests Polluters Like The Koch Brothers Should Go To Jail
        via @climateprogress
        Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) suggested this week that petrochemical polluters like David and Charles Koch should go to jail.

        Rand Paul Wants Koch Brothers Thrown in Jail!
        As Fang details, Koch Industries was indicted by the DoJ in 2000 for knowingly dumping “at least 91 metric tons of uncontrolled benzene in its liquid waste streams” at its Corpus Christi refinery, and for conspiring to cover it up in an attempt to deceive regulators.

        After George W. Bush took office in 2001, however, “his Attorney General John Ashcroft dropped 88 counts against Koch for the benzene spill and cover-up” in exchange for a guilty plea to falsifying documents and a $20 million fine (a settlement from $350 million in potential fines.)

        The Kochs made out pretty well in exchange for their $32,200 contribution to the 2000 Bush campaign. The job killing Koch brothers are making out even better under Barack Obama.

        Koch-Owned Georgia-Pacific Environmental Crimes

        Legalizing Marijuana: Why Citizens Should Just Say No
        To begin with, an astonishingly high percentage of criminals are marijuana users. According to a study by the RAND Corporation, approximately 60 percent of arrestees test positive for marijuana use in the United States, England, and Australia. Further, marijuana metabolites are found in arrestees’ urine more frequently than those of any other drug.

        Show references in this report
        Stuart M. Butler, The Marijuana Epidemic, Heritage Foundation Backgrounder No. 140 (May 4, 1981),

        R. Gil Kerlikowske, ONDCP Director, Remarks to the California Police Chiefs Conference: Why Marijuana Legalization Would Compromise Public Health and Public Safety (March 4, 2010)

        Rush Limbaugh says “The Heritage Foundation’s Morning Bell is just terrific!”

        Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) says it’s “a great way to start the day for any conservative who wants to get America back on track.”

        Ten major ways Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton are exactly the same

        1. Both are willing to continue the utterly failed policy of marijuana prohibition
        “I’m not advocating everyone go out and run around with no clothes on and smoke pot. I’m not a libertarian. I’m a libertarian Republican. I’m a constitutional conservative.”

        Additionally, Paul is heavily backed by an organization known as FreedomWorks, which is also affiliated with the Koch Brothers and the Republican Party establishment.

        say when

        • Sukoi says:

          So far, his actions and votes as a senator have been squarely on the side of freedom and liberty as far as I can tell – and here he is again:

          “Rand Paul’s Quiet Weed Overture

          If he runs for president, Sen. Rand Paul will not be your typical Republican candidate. On Thursday the Kentucky senator filed yet another amendment protecting the states that have implemented medical-marijuana laws—as well as the patients and doctors acting in accordance with them—from federal prosecution.

          The amendment, attached to the “Bring Jobs Home Act,” would allow states to “enact and implement laws that authorize the use, distribution, possession, or cultivation of marijuana for medical use” without threat of federal interference. The measure would also protect patients in places where medical marijuana is legal (23 states and the District of Columbia) from prosecution for violating federal marijuana laws.”

          He’s on a roll and as Jeff says above, he may not be perfect, but he is by far better than anyone else on civil liberties – foreign policy too IMHO.

        • DdC says:

          Gathering votes Sukoi. Best turd in the toilet bowl eh?

          Right-Wing Think Tank’s Marijuana Policy Paper Takes Absurdity to New Heights
          If you want to read one of the most absurd “policy” articles about marijuana in history, go quickly to the website of the Heritage Foundation to read “Legalizing Marijuana: Why Citizens Should Just Say No.” I say quickly because it is truly so absurd, I believe it will be taken down from the site soon.

          The Heritage Foundation’s Collectivist Call to Ban Marijuana
          In an article for the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Sabet argues, “marijuana legalization poses too many risks to public health and public safety.”

          Marijuana Legalization Measures Will Drive Voters, Poll Finds
          The survey of 1,000 likely voters found 73 percent support allowing marijuana for legal medical purposes, 53 percent favor decriminalization and 68 percent are “more likely” to go to their polling place to weigh in on a ballot.

          “Marijuana legalization and marijuana decriminalization is at a tipping point” said Celinda Lake, president of Lake Research Partners and one of the two pollsters who conducted the survey. Support crosses party lines, though younger and single voters — who tend to vote for Democrats — are more motivated by those issues, she said.

          Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) visited the Heritage Foundation this morning to deliver a speech about a constitutionally conservative foreign policy — one that respects the Founders’ vision for America.

          Are we just pawns of the Koch brothers?
          Daily Paul Liberty Forum
          I’ve tried to explain to him that the grassroots Liberty movement had a lot to do with getting things going, and that perhaps Koch-funded organizations and Republican establishment were able to exert their influence later on and distort the Tea Party.

          “I came to the United States to examine the Tea Party phenomenon. And in particular: THE ACCUSATIONS THAT THE PROTESTERS WERE PAWNS IN A COVERT POWER-PLAY. BY A SMALL GROUP OF BILLIONAIRES AND CORPORATE PLAYERS.” –The Australian film-maker.

        • Sukoi says:

          So what’s your point DdC? Do you support Hillary Clinton over Rand Paul on this and other civil liberty issues? Or do you simply not support him at all because he said something at some point that you disagreed with?

          Personally, I don’t really care as I know from what I’ve seen that this guy is – so far – the most liberty minded candidate that MAY have a chance at winning the presidency; do you disagree with that? Or would you prefer a President Hillary?

          You need to chill out dude as we are all on the same side and I’m just sharing information about a candidate that is speaking our language AT THIS TIME. I doubt that he will change his language moving forward, but that’s just me…

    • John says:

      Rand Paul would doubtless be a far superior candidate to Chris Christie:

      (Did congress pass a law requiring all MSM drug legalization articles to mention and quote Kevin Sabet?)

      • B. Snow says:

        “(Did congress pass a law requiring all MSM drug legalization articles to mention and quote Kevin Sabet?)”

        No John, – In reality its Kev-Kev who takes it upon himself to make sure that he’s included in practically every article = worming his way in -often- by pointing out that he worked in the ONDCP under several presidential administrations.
        Thus, knowingly giving-off the false impression/assertion that this means – he’s somehow “fair-minded” in regard to the issue… When anyone with a pulse, and even the weakest grasp on the subject knows better.

      • Tim says:

        If you look at the numbers of casinos in NJ that have closed this year, you’ll believe like I do that Christie is going to do a huge flip-flop come budget time.

  17. War Vet says:

    I wonder if this father realizes that he prefers child rape and war and terrorism over legalizing pot (and other drugs)? Because that is what happens when drug money is in the hands of people: they use it to kill, destroy, ravage and create the kind of terror that controls people and finances wars and genocides.

    American drug policy is often the root of many evils and influences other nations to do what they do in regards to drug prohibition. Shame on this father–a former Navy seaman for technically saying ‘9/11 and our War on Terror and it’s devastating costs are acceptable consequences to keeping marijuana (etc.) illegal and on the black market’.

  18. Steve Finlay says:

    If Kevin is the only one they have, does that mean Paul Chabot is also disappearing? Praise God, Allah and Krishna, I sure hope so.

    • allan says:

      lol… how about Dr Eric “Darth” Voth being MIA?

      I had a thought the other night as thunderbusters rolled across the northwest starting wildfires w/ hundreds of lightning strikes. Fire crews were scrambling and the NatGuard was brought in (because it’s what they are for, not foreign expeditions).

      My thought was that the prohibs must feel like those fire crews. There’s legalization lightning striking everywhere and they don’t have the resources to keep up and drug policy wildfires have gotten out of hand and way beyond their control. AND they can’t call in the FANGs 🙂 for back up!

    • kaptinemo says:

      Chabot is “B List” compared to Kevvie…and that’s not saying much.

      Notice how the books of the prohibs are NOT flying off the shelves? The only people buying them are their own kind. They still do not understand the political and social landscape is de- and re-materializing before their very eyes…and they have no future in it.

      Just their connections to government, guilty of countless lies these past 14 years, makes them suspect. The audience they so desperately want to court is rejecting their mendacious advances. “Once burned, twice as shy.” The American people have been burned too many times by these frauds.

      Those they sought to bamboozle courtesy of their propaganda and lies, conveyed by such organizations as DARE, grew up…and now trust the prohibs as much as you would your stereotypical used car salesman. The prohibs are reduced to shouting inside of an echo chamber that’s shrinking by the day.

      And, standing outside of that chamber is the audience the prohibs wish they could make captive, again, as they were in school. That audience is looking on as would those visiting a zoo, pointing at the very strange animals inside, and noting their increasingly hysterical screeching and impotent poo-flinging. And that audience is laughing at those sad, angry creatures…when their faces aren’t registering disgust with their conduct.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        If they were smart they’d be negotiating a compromise. But they’re just a bunch of idiots. Why the heck else would they be using the same arguments in Florida that have been losers in 23 States and D.C.? Adapt or die…I just haven’t got the words to express how sincerely grateful I am that they decided to play for all or nothing.

        Speaking of MIA, I’ve heard a few belches from Calvina WRT Florida’s proposed Amendment but she’s being almost silent considering that we’re in her back yard.

        Capitulation, ain’t that just one sweet sounding word? But “botched” is still my current favorite word. Here it is in a sentence: Mr. Sabet was never such an extreme foaming at the mouth prohibitionist until that drunken surgeon botched his lobotomy.

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