Reefer madness entertainment

Here’s a wild one. Emily Miller — a senior editor for the Washington Times.

MILLER: Obama’s cultural legacy is legal marijuana blowing through America. Stoned citizens will further burden the dependency society

This demonstrates how activists are totally uneducated about the severe consequences of smoking pot.

Cully Stimson was a prosecutor in drug court in San Diego and has served as a military trial judge.

“There’s already a significant number of D.C. residents involved in the criminal justice system,” the senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation told me in an interview. “By telling them that marijuana is a medicine and not a drug, then legalizing it, you’re going to have a stoned, dependent community that is even worse than today.”

Mr. Stimson, a former defense attorney, has written extensively on drug policies and the dangers of marijuana. He predicts that Colorado’s social experiment will fail badly.

“Nothing positive will come out of it,” he stated. “You’re going to have lower test scores and a class of people who are unemployable because they are stoned all the time. People are going to die on ski slopes, on the roads.”

The think tank expert further explained, “Countries that have legalized marijuana have experienced negative social effects. They’ve seen more dependency — marijuana is highly addictive and a gateway to harder drugs — and more crime and a bigger black market because the drug cartels undercut legal sellers and also target youth.”

Marijuana proponents who claim that pot is no different than alcohol are ignorant of the science. The body can process alcohol, and in many studies, a few drinks have been proven to have health benefits. Marijuana, on the other hand, is simply a toxin. Pot is more similar to heroin and cocaine than alcohol in how it affects the body.

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97 Responses to Reefer madness entertainment

  1. allan says:

    Wow. Cully Stimson is her expert?

    Glub glub. Thud thud.

    • allan says:

      About the only lie Cully didn’t tell was man-boobs. By the time I got to the second page I was already in stitches and the guffawing only increased from there – dang near peed my pants I was laughing so hard. Prolly woke up Little Miss Appleseed…

      These folks are starting to look as looney as any evangelical Rapturist.

      Go Cully Go! More of this, pleeease!

  2. darkcycle says:

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear… They are losing it….

  3. robert says:

    Lmao alcohol gets processed quicker? Idk about everyone else but i stay drunk a lot longer than I stay high

    • Duncan20903 says:


      I didn’t read the screed but I’ll bet she means processed out of a person’s body. If so it’s probably because she doesn’t understand the definition of the word inert or of the existence of THC-cooh.

      Seriously, there is a not insignificant number of people who believe that smoking a joint gets people high for weeks and weeks after choosing to enjoy it. It’s one of the more laughably absurd beliefs among the fans of hysterical rhetoric.

  4. NorCalNative says:

    Hi, I’m a defense attorney and I’m REALLY used to the cash I made in my life off the misery and injustice of cannabis prohibition. My wife and kids depend on the Big Lie and how dare voters try and mess with my gravy train.

    I’ve got a list of bullshit made-up stories that I will feed to you on demand, and because my job is backed up by people with guns, YOU WILL LISTEN TO ME.

    Your so-called medical marijuana doctor doesn’t know what he’s talking about. My background and experience in law has given me ALL the medical knowledge I need to put you in JAIL.

    So, quit the hippy talk loser and leave the medical decisions to your local cop.

  5. allan says:

    the WT comments are Disqus, which don’t woik for me. I’m confidently assuming they’re being hung out to dry.

  6. Servetus says:

    It won’t be so easy for the gun-wielding Emily Miller and prosecutor Cully Stimson to feel superior to marijuana smokers anymore. Not once the herb is legal and people can finally see the dire predictions of doom and gloom that racist prohibitches predict are little more than a bigoted fantasy.

    With no one to look down upon, with no one to oppress for capital or social gain, Miller and Stimson are reduced to facing the truth about themselves, and the truth is painful. The truth is that people like Miller and Stimson typify the absolute bottom dregs of society, and they work for organizations, specifically the Washington Times and the Heritage Foundation, that pose an ongoing threat to humanity.

  7. Howard says:

    I loathe overuse of the word ‘awesome’ except when used in the most sarcastic way. With that in mind, Emily Miller’s op-ed is totally freaking awesome! That is some serious sushi grade bovine excrement, right there. She had me at the first sentence;

    “You can go into a store in Colorado and buy marijuana to get stoned for kicks, but you cannot purchase a 40- or 60-watt light bulb.”

    Emily, just a minor suggestion, using the word ‘kicks’ is a tad outdated, but otherwise, excellent job!

    Rumor has it there’s been an emergency staff meeting at The Onion. They feel punked by Emily. How can they possibly come up with garbage this good? The mood is dour…

    • B. Snow says:

      Yeah, gotta go stock-up on some 40 watt Reveals!
      Before the Wally-world runs out of them completely.

      IDK, why but I’ve always preferred that kinda blue-ish light, sorta like what comes in the window on a cloudy day. People always want to turn on more lights and I end up nearly blind and looking for a darker spot and go back to reading – or whatever it is that other people need overly bright yellow-ish light for?

    • Duncan20903 says:


      How in the world do people get their kicks with a light bulb? I suppose that one could serve as a butt plug but that seems pretty risky to me. Such people should just stick with gerbils.

      Jocularities aside, why doesn’t she mention that it’s Federal law, not Colorado law? Oh wait, I know the answer to that. Prohibitionists have a reckless disregard for the truth and are bald faced liars by their very nature.

      Last of incandescent light bulbs are banned

      Beginning Jan. 1 [2014], the production of 40- and 60-watt incandescent light bulbs is banned as part of efficiency standards signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2007.

      So what the heck did people think was the catalyst for my “How many prohibitionists does it take to screw in a light bulb” series? GOP takes last shot at repealing light bulb ban

  8. Uncle Albert's Nephew says:

    Does anyone still read the Washington Times? I live in Charlottesville VA and the stores don’t even carry it anymore.

    • Malc says:

      “The Washington Times has lost money every year that it has been in business. By 2002, the Unification Church had spent about $1.7 billion subsidizing the Times. In 2003, The New Yorker reported that a billion dollars had been spent since the paper’s inception, as Moon himself had noted in a 1991 speech, “Literally nine hundred million to one billion dollars has been spent to activate and run the Washington Times”. In 2002, Columbia Journalism Review suggested Moon had spent nearly $2 billion on the Times.”

  9. NorCalNative says:

    I used the word cop in a disparaging way fueled by years of pent up cynicism.

    Truth is, folks like LEAP are freaking awesome and there are plenty of good people in law enforcement.

    I appreciate and especially want to acknowledge the courage it takes for active law enforcement to speak out on this issue.

    We NEED you.

  10. DdC says:

    “Another weapon I discovered early was the power of the printed word to sway souls to me. The newspaper was soon my gun, my flag- a thing with a soul that could mirror my own.”
    Adolph Hitler

    ‘After Two Puffs, I Was Turned Into a Bat
    Anslinger swept all before him for decades, to the extent that his success began to pose its own problems. Admitting to marijuana use became a popular way of avoiding conscription, and murderers cited the brainwashing powers of “an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality and death” to plead diminished responsibility for their crimes. Their claims were frequently supported by an expert witness, the pharmacologist Dr James Munch, who claimed that “after two puffs on a marijuana cigarette, I was turned into a bat”. Sentences were commuted from death to imprisonment on Munch’s evidence, and Anslinger had to ask him to stop testifying.

    Pot Turns Man Into Bat

    “Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
    From Benito Mussolini
    contributing to the “London Sunday Express,”
    December 8, 1935

    And so it goes. As soon as the politicians sign the legal papers millions of pot tokers will come out of hiding and ruin the country. As it is, illegal. They can’t smoke it now, no one grows it and no one sells it and if they try LEO’s pounce on them and keep them off the roads and out of work. It seems when you try cannabis money falls from the clouds so stoners are never seen. They all have condo’s in the deep redwood forests. That is why they don’t want to cut down trees. Itr would expose their hidden pot havens. If it is legalized they won’t have to hide. They will be buying the same groceries as the rest of straight America. Their cars will be on our roads and their kids in our schools running down the street laughing out loud for no apparent reason. They will stop wearing clothes and might as well toss that razor in the garbage along with a rash of unemployed barbers. Oh the humanity. Junk food will be sold out so our kids won’t eat. As long as it remains illegal an entire infrastructure can continue to segregate these other types of thinkers and drive them back into the deep redwoods where they can’t do harm to our kids. Let the football concussions and texting while driving and obesity and racism return us to normal without the devil weed with roots in hell changing us and our society we saved from the marajuanaists. Same thing with that hemp narcotic blue jeans.

    I wish I could show you what a small marihuana cigaret can do to one of our degenerate Spanish-speaking residents. That’s why our problem is so great; the greatest percentage of our population is composed of Spanish-speaking persons, most of who are low mentally, because of social and racial conditions.

    “You know, it’s a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists.”
    Just What Was He Smoking?

    Missing Nixon tapes
    excerpts begin with the Nixon doctrine on why marijuana is much worse than alcohol: It is because people drink “to have fun” but they smoke marijuana “to get high.” This distinction was evidently enormously significant to Nixon, because he repeats it twice.

    Moonie is running the Wahedup Post from Paraguay where he and george bush own over a million acres of prime fresh water aquifer, while fracking and nuking the rest of the planet.

    • DdC says:

      I think I meant the times and not post as if there may be a slight difference.

      • Windy says:

        Radley Balko has moved his blog from HuffPo to WashPo:

        So yes, the WashPo is worth at least taking the time to read his column.

        • Citizen Teus says:

          Oh, OK, so Post and Times are the same then. Good to know.

        • DdC says:

          It takes me ten minutes to read a Huff Po article. Maybe the same problem with the servers as disqus. So I agree, there is a difference.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post last year. I was going to short the newspaper stocks to zero but closed the position when that happened. My confidence in their demise was predicated on the fact that practically none of them had a clue of how to successfully migrate their business to the web.

        • Windy says:

          Citizen Teus, you better not diss Radley Balko around here, he has done more than any other journalist to put the problems with the war on drugs in front of the American public. So we count him as a hero around here, a hero because he is a good part of why a majority of Americans now support ending the war on cannabis; and for awakening the masses to the abuses of government and the abuse of power by the militarized cops and prosecutors.

  11. kaptinemo says:

    I did say the control freaks would start to freak out, as their authoritarian regimen was rejected by the electorate.

    I’m just waiting on them to pull a Barry McC and claim that the voters were easily led dupes suckered into voting for re-legalizing cannabis (which is what the Klinton Administration’s prohib triumvirate of Donna Shalala, Janet Reno and McC tried to pull right after Prop215 passed). They operate on the basis of contempt for a public that’s increasingly more opposed to their actions anyway.

    Oh, but don’t worry, that’s coming, too. They are soooo predictable…

    • Duncan20903 says:


      Here’s a very interesting statistic: There were 420 days between Election Day 2012 and January 1st.

      • Freeman says:

        The local news in Kansas City is reporting that a local fellow is organizing bus tours from Salina, KS to Colorado for pot tourism. Price: $420 of course!

        • kaptinemo says:

          (Slapping knee) LOL! What was that again about lazy, ‘amotivated’ stoners? Quite an enterprising fellow, eh?

          Just like Cheech and Chong, who laughed all the way to the bank by laughing at prohibs and their idea that every cannabis consumer looks and acts like the stereotypes those two lampooned. To this day the prohibs still think that that was real, and they still use it in their propaganda. Hopeless rubes.

          To paraphrase a line from The Bard, “What fools these prohibs be!”

    • DdC says:

      we can’t control the actions of everyone.
      –Bill Clinton, April 20, 1993

      Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage
      McCaffrey Blasts Medicinal Marijuana!

      “Insanity is doing the same old thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
      — Bill Clinton, campaign debate, October 11, 1992

      McCaffrey Advocates Prevention, Treatment

      “If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.”
      — President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

      Clinton Asks Supreme Court To Overturn MMJ Ruling

      “We can’t be so fixated on our desire
      to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.”
      – Bill Clinton

      Proven : Cannabis is a safe medicine by Ian Williams Goddard
      BOSTON, Jan. 30, 1997 (UPI)

      “Hemp is not economically feasible in the United States. . . it doesn’t even hold a crease.”
      – Gen. Barry McCaffrey, U.S. Drug Czar, 1998

      Tell Congress: We Need Jobs, Not Cuts, Got Hemp?

      “We’ve got a national campaign by drug legalizers, in my view, to try and use medicinal uses of drugs and legalization of hemp as a stalking horse to get in under the radar screen.” “The voters in this country should not be expected to decide which medicines are safe and effective.
      — Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey

      If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
      — Thomas Jefferson

      Tell Obama to Remove Cannabis in all forms as a Controlled Substance. We know what to do from there.

      White House comment line 202-456-1111

      “Medicines often produce side effects.
      Sometimes they are physically unpleasant.
      Cannabis too has discomforting side effects,
      but these are not physical they are political”
      The Economist March 28th 1992

      • Windy says:

        “We’ve got a national campaign by drug legalizers, in my view, to try and use medicinal uses of drugs and legalization of hemp as a stalking horse to get in under the radar screen.” “The voters in this country should not be expected to decide which medicines are safe and effective.
        – Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey

        As I recall (IIRC) that quote was one he spoke in every State which had a medical marijuana initiative before the voters or a bill before the legislature when he was breaking federal law, committing a felony by interfering in local and State elections trying to prevent these initiatives and bills from becoming law in those States. McCaffrey and Clinton should both be behind bars (Bill, for all those anti-constitutional comments, which were a violation of his oath of office another federal felony; and they are not the only ones which should be serving prison terms but are, instead, still in positions of power and influence) neither one should be making millions off speaking engagements and TV appearances.

        • DdC says:

          Karen Tandy, head of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, wrote:” Today’s DEA arrest of Marc Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture Magazine, and the founder of a marijuana legalization group, is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement. … Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery’s illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada.”

          Tandy’s office has declined to comment about the statement, but locally, federal prosecutors have distanced themselves from her remarks.
          A Drug Warmongers Toll on Americans

          The Party’s are Over. The Neoconfederacy Will Rise Again.
          If symptoms last longer than 4 hours contact your physician.

          Klinton Gore and his Colombian Occidental Oil under the natives ancient burial grounds. Silly of them to choose that spot. Plan Colombia. Still bombing speculated coca fields over spraying Monsanto agent orange lite. Monsanto (+1) Colombians, (-10).

          “Casual drug users should be taken out and shot.”
          Daryl DARE Gates – Former LAPD Chief

          OK men, we need someone to head up the chiefs new DARE show for the kids. Howzabout a big Dog? Armed Neighborhood watchers? Or we could break eggs and make weird sounds to scare them. Anslinger left a lot of documents that look governmental. Ah, Maybe not so much for the colored kids. Oh, or the Mexican kids. The bloody stuff’s good. Hey why not send the SWAT team? Good idea. They can use the battle gear to get them exited about shooting kids they think are stoners when they get older.

          I think Juniors quotes should all end in …D’oh!

          “I wouldn’t answer the marijuana question. You know why? ‘Cause I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried.” D’oh!
          ~ George UU Bush
          BBC. February 21, 2005. Retrieved October 1, 2009.

          Al Capone and Watergate
          Why Do YOU Think They Call it DOPE?

          “For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It’s just unacceptable. And we’re going to do something about it.” D’oh!
          –Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, May 14, 2001

          Teach them to shoot straighter?

          Studs Terkel interviews a very young Bob Dylan in 1963

  12. Will S. says:

    Holy s#!+, alcohol can be beneficial? Cannabis simply a toxin? Is the world flat and only 6000 years old also? What year is this, 1937?

    • ezrydn says:

      He said the body creates alcohol. He left out the fact that it creates cannibinoids also and has specific brain receptors that only accept that “toxin.”

      • Viggo Piggsko says:

        I bet they didn’t know that the body also creates DMT.

        • DdC says:

          I should mention that DMT is an endogenous neurotransmitter. Yes, DMT, the most powerful of the hallucinogens occurs in the human brain as a normal part of metabolism. It also is a Schedule I drug, so you’re all holding and this might be the basis for some kind of case. To just show what absolute poppycock all this nonsense is: People Have Been Made Illegal!
          ~ Terence McKenna

        • Duncan20903 says:

          Don’t forget about Jenkem. The body produces that by the pile.

      • DdC says:

        Where else are the entrepreneurs so creative? Hollywood repeats itself as much as the new new i phone. Druggies keep coming up with the craziest shit… literally. Jenkem, purportedly, a hallucinogenic inhalant created from fermented human waste. In the mid-1990s, it was reported to be a popular street drug…

        6 Animals That Can Get You High

    • DdC says:

      I’m pretty sure the only reason cannabis is around for weeks in the system is because it is NOT a toxin. White powders and alcohol are toxins and that is why the body removes them. Cannabis stores in fat cells so it is not removed and although it has no bearing on inebriation. We know it is a prohibs tool for terrorizing users. Such filthy low life scum lower the credit and trust of anyone publishing their putrid words of shit. It is so far past time to hang these liars out to dry. Time for a little integrity in legislation and from the news. But in reality, he is only reading the CSA protocol. It doesn’t say what the tests results of cannabis actual are. He simply reads the definition of a schedule#1 substance and since that is where cannabis lives. Guilt by association. Put table salt on the list and he could say the same thing. It seems maybe too easy but where are the documents stating cannabis has the qualifications to meet the schedule#1 standards Nixon arbitrarily decided were applicable. Form the list and then add names without proof and still after 43 years no one is questioning it? Rather when they did questioned it in 1999 at the IOM and found it to be unworthy of a schedule#1 narcotic. Why are the “reform leaders” not demanding the truth and remove it federally? Still collecting dust at the HHS before it gets to be tested by the FDA when everybody seems to know it was not science that placed it there in the first place. But it leaves dogturds the ability to falsely list it as a dangerous substance. This is like playing baseball with a spoiled brat who owns the ball and makes up the rules as the game progresses. Wants 7 strikes and 5 outs or he’ll just take his ball home. Maybe we should just kick his ass and take the ball. Oh ya, I think that is what we have been doing for 43 years.

      • DdC says:

        This is the criteria and the rules to have it removed but where are the actual documents Nixon used to have it listed in the first place?

        Rescheduling Criteria
        Drug Enforcement Agency’s Five-Factor Test For Rescheduling*

        Gonzales v. Raich
        Facts of the Case: excerpted

        Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage

      • darkcycle says:

        It’s because it is recognized and sequestered in the body like fat, rather than a sugar. Lipid metabolism is much slower than sugar metabolism (alcohol and most other drugs are treated by the body like sugars), and the body relies on it much less. So if it’s stored in the fat you can’t “get at it” as easily. That is also why dioxin (a serious toxin) stays in the body. Dioxin is sequestered like a fat, but there is NO mechanism to break it down at all, so it stays for decades, and is excreted as whole molecules very, very slowly through the sweat, sebecious and saliva glands. SO in short…no. It stays because of where it is stored.

        • darkcycle says:

          Not to belabor the issue, but I am unfortunately intimately familiar with fat soluble toxins, having been dosed with huge amounts of them as a result of a job I held in school. (Worked at a petroleum processing and pumping station. We treated crude oil straight from the well heads so that it would flow through the pipelines that connected the wells in the L.A. Basin to the refineries and shipping points on Long Beach. Added it full of benzene and other solvents to turn it from road tar into something you could get a pump to digest.)
          Once that stuff gets into a body, it’s stored in the Fat and the fatty organs, like the brain and particularly the liver (THC, too…may be why THC seems to help with the issues). If there’s no metabolic pathway to break down a particular fat soluble toxin, what happens is a never ending cycle of sickness. In the fat, it causes few problems, but begin to metabolize that fat (as you will as a result of exertion, stress, or hunger) and the toxins go back into solution in the blood where they cause all kinds of problems. Until your liver has had a chance to hide it all away, unchanged, back in the fat for the next time. This sort of fat soluble toxin causes systemic inflamation issues, immune system issues, infertility, cancers….

        • darkcycle says:

          DdC, that’s correct. THC metabolites are harmless, my second post above referred only to fat soluble toxins like dioxins. Sorry for any confusion.

        • DdC says:

          Thanks DC, I would have no problem putting dioxin spewers in cages.

          Environment; Action on Dioxins in Food

          Hemp vs Dioxins and Cannabis Vs Dioxins links have a lot of similar info.

  13. A cookie cutter clone from the Nixon school of marijuana facts. Wow! What a blowback this article is to a bygone era. Reefer madness at its best. Truth be damned and full speed ahead. If they blow enough of that stale smoke around it might still catch somewhere. I think there are still some airheads around.

  14. I can see why Allan likes it here on Pete’s couch. He thinks the world of you folks and always shares what’s going on. He didn’t tell me that it was such a funny place! (he’s old, probably forgot;)

    • curmudgeon says:

      No, Miss A; Allan is old AND stoned! He didn’t forget, he just spaced it out(or spaced himself out, I think I’ll join him).

    • Freeman says:

      Glad to see you joining us on Pete’s couch, Appleseed. Any Little Miss of Allan’s is most welcome here! We think the world of him too — his comments are always must-read in my book. Old? Sure. Old enough to remember that line from that old TV commercial — “we’re not getting older, we’re getting better”!

    • allan says:

      Careful or I’ll beat you all w/ my walker!

  15. divadab says:

    All I can say is Jesus what a fucking retard

    AT least that’s what this hack thinks of her readers.

    Isn’t the Washington Times owned by the Moonies? Authoritarian retards. Fuckwits.

    I don;t know if I can read much more shit like that.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      I think that you’re being unfair. How would feel about being called intellectually challenged if all that you had to argue your position were bald faced lies, half truths and hysterical rhetoric?

    • divadab says:

      @duncan – Maybe embarrassed or guilty for being a hack. A propagandist for evil.

      She deserves all the vitriol we can send her way.

  16. Nunavut Tripper says:

    Ms Miller comes across as a rabid prohibitionist portrayed in a Hollywood B movie.
    She’s done pretty thorough research into the harms of the devils lettuce but she missed testicular cancer and man boobs.

    You missed a couple Emily….bad get upstairs now.

  17. strayan says:

    Whenever you see someone using the word toxin and toxic who isn’t a scientist, first try replacing every use of “toxin” with “demon” and “toxic” with “demonic” and see if what they said makes more sense then.

  18. War Vet says:

    When you’ve got people whose heads have been stuck up their asses and other’s asses for so long, it makes sense why they cannot hear the truth: undigested corn and pieces of peanuts and other food items commonly found in human waste get stuck in their ears. excrement in, excrement out.

    • So, you actually watched “the human centipede”?
      How about the prohibition parade?

      • War Vet says:

        I never watched part two. The first was good in its originality (awkwardly enough I’m not afraid of Germans, should I be?).

        This woman could really use some weed to help with neurogenesis. I think its funny how they are destroying themselves. This parade looks more like a bunch of loops around a small circle. Reminds me of the time I worked with troubled teens at a quasi-military academy and as punishment for their various offenses, I’d make them march around with folding chairs while shouting out, “This is my folding chair, there are many like it . . .”, Or force them to scream, “Knock Knock. Whose There. Knock Knock. Whose There (repeat for an hour with no punch-line) . . . or walk the perimeter of a single small one foot wide by one foot long square tile on the floor. That’s what this prohibition parade reminds me: a bunch of troubled kids acting like chimps in a cage (or as my old football coach said: a bunch of damn birds in a damn cave). That’s what these prohibs sound like. They sound like a bunch of damn birds in a damn cave.

        • Duncan20903 says:

          Hmm, maybe some knock knock jokes would compliment my prohibitionists changing a light bulb series.

          No, I guess not. Nobody would be able to get past the fact that prohibitionists never knock, they just tell their friends the jack booted thugs to kick in the door.

          Never mind.

  19. pfroehlich2004 says:

    Hey does anyone know the new URL for SAMHSA’s state level substance abuse treatmend admissions data (SAS Output)?

    I just clicked on my bookmark for this page and got a Not Found message.

      • pfroehlich2004 says:

        Thanks for the link. It’s not quite as easy to navigate as the old one unfortunately, but certainly better than nothing.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          For the last couple of weeks I’ve trying to determine if I’m a garden variety narcissist or a keen observer of the cold black hearts of the prohibitionists. Based on if I think they took down those quick link because of all of the mileage I was getting in using them to embarrass their pals by using them as supporting evidence for the assertion that the absolute prohibition of cannabis is an utter failure of public policy..

          Jiminy H Criminy, I was really looking forward to discredit the enemies of freedom in Florida if PUFFM got medicinal cannabis on the ballot. I already had boilerplate doggoneit! All I would have needed to hear was “who wants our home State of Florida to end up like California? Boo effin’ hoo. Oh well, Florida’s 2012 crime rate is still almost 20% higher than California. Only a lunatic idiot would prefer Florida’s statistics over California’s.

          Picture in your minds an old tie-me barbershop quartet, so old tie-me that one of them is dead from old age, performing The Old Gray Mare:

          In 1996 the voters of California approved the Compassionate Use Act which was the very first ever medicinal cannabis patient protection law. The prohibitionist parasites and their sycophants predicted that addiction would go through the roof based on the very lame “gateway” fantasy.

          It was in 1996 when California voters approved the Compassionate Use Act (CUA) AKA Prop 215. Of course the prohibitionist parasites were beside themselves in their inane predictions of all manner of social degradation that would occur. One of their favorites was trotting out the old lame nag of the “gateway” fantasy.

          In 1996 there were 3,778 Florida residents in “treatment” for opioids addiction. 
          By 2011 that number had skyrocketed to 29,066. For the people keeping the score at home, that was a whopping 669.349 % increase. Was Florida offering tax incentives to junkies to get them to move to Florida or what?

          In 1996 there were 69,092 California residents who were in “treatment” for opioids addiction. In 2011 that number had been reduced to 36,810, or 46.723%. 

          “Assholes do vex me!” ~~ The lament of the cannabis law reform advocate

    • strayan says:

      You might be able to find it at if you still have the original URL.

  20. claygooding says:

    I think it is time to just quit following these idiots around and making them feel important to anyone,,,,when we quit responding to them the newspapers will quit pushing them at us.

    • claygooding says:

      I am just gonna continue stealing one-liners from my couchmates and laugh at them,,,after all,laughter is the best medicine.

    • kaptinemo says:

      Clay, I would normally agree, with but one caveat: they make such good ‘training wheels’ for neophyte reformers. You get to sharpen your BS slicing knife on the whetstone of their innate (and shamelessly, publicly expressed!) willful ignorance and stupidity. Which does a number of things at once.

      It gives the lie to the old canard about ‘amotivational syndrome’. It shows that on the whole we reformers are vastly more well informed, articulate, etc. than our opponents. And it shows any of those budding sado-moralists contemplating entering the ring that they can expect the same kind of public skewering their shutter-brained ‘heroes’ are subjected to regularly.

      But such usually turn out to be the intellectual equivalent of cream puffs; you can’t make a meal of appetizers alone. The mental canine teeth need a real workout.

      Which is also why most reformers then move on to less (glancing in the direction of Sacramento, California where a certain prohib lady resides) fatty and more protein-rich prey.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        While I appreciate your thought process kaptin the entire argument fails because it’s predicated on the false premise that those people are in possession of a working brain. I could hold a candle up to a prohibitionists ear and blow out the flame by blowing into the ear on the opposite side.

        Those dimwits will post their amotivational bullcrap under an article about the new laws in Colorado and Washington. Those idiots have even called Snoop Lion, Willie Nelson and Miley Cyrus “losers.” I guess it might make a difference if I understood their Humpty Dumpty school of sophistry definition of the word “loser” because it sure as heck isn’t any of the accepted definitions listed in the popular dictionaries. In my world people with net worths into 9 figures just don’t qualify as losers, especially someone who managed to do that trick before she was old enough to vote.

        • allan says:

          Don’t forget Prez Choom and that amotivated swimmer, Michael Phelps. But of course just think what they could have accomplished if they hadn’t smoked weed!

      • Windy says:

        Well, for those neophytes, I have an assignment. I turned my car radio to the local talk station to listen to the local evening show, and caught the end of Hannity’s show, he had a caller who claimed to have been using cannabis almost daily since 1954 (introduced to it by migrant farm workers in his neighborhood at the age of 14). Hannity called him an addict, then asked him if he’d used recently, he answered it had been about a month; then Hannity asked him how he got it, and he said he grew it in his spare bedroom. Hannity kept insisting the guy was an addict, so I’d like to see Hannity’s email box flooded with links to science proving that cannabis is NOT addictive. Hannity also quoted BS from cops as to why cannabis is so very bad and needs to continue to be prohibited, so he needs to get some info from LEAP as well. It is time to school that dude! Here is his email addy:

        I’d send something myself, but I think he has my email addy marked as spam or blocked some other way as my emails to him bounce back to me as undelivered, I’ve sent him emails over the years calling him on his shit, too often, apparently.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          So what’s the most effective strategy for convincing Mr. Hannity (AKA a brain dead malignant narcissist) that our arguments are valid? So far the only one I’ve been able to think of is premeditated murder and I fear retribution from civil authority figures.

        • allan says:

          I agree with Duncan, aside from a brain transplant I doubt there’s any hope for Hannity. He’s hated pot heads for a long time and hasn’t been shy about saying so. Save your qwerty strokes. According to the skool of Hannity, freedom is a good thing, unless you smoke ganja… or disagree with him.

        • DdC says:

          This is the official Twitter for ‘Hannity’ on the Fox News Channel

          @seanhannity ‏ @seanhannitysays

          Kimberly Guilfoyle ‏ Verified account @kimguilfoyle
          Fox News Anchor/Analyst & Former Prosecutor. Co-Host of The Five @5pm ET; O’Reilly 8:00 PM ET Tuesday and Hannity 9pm ET Thursday

          Niall Hannity ‏ @Niallhannity
          Retired, overweight, average jump jockey. Now broadcaster and journalist. Feel very lucky to make a living from my hobby.

          Concerned Citizen ‏ @Hijack_Hannity
          Hannity needs to be neutralized, but not by the fairness doctrine, by the American people!

          Shawn Sux ‏ @HannityBlows
          A bipartisan movement is growing across the ideological spectrum, spanning gender class and race to come together and declare that Sean Hannity sucks major ass.

  21. Jean Valjean says:

    Some background info on Emily Miller from 2009. Sounds like she could use bong-hit or two:

    • divadab says:

      Huh. She was a Republican operative who was even too dumb for them and now she writes anti-pot hack pieces for the Washington Post. What’s next for Emily in the collapse of her career? Maybe Chris Christie has an opening.

      She needs more than a bong hit.

      • claygooding says:

        Christie has bit the green weenie,,he has exposed his prosecutor’s personality and belief that he can get away with anything overload his water buffalo ass.
        The next best thing that could happen to America is if the Republicans keep throwing law enforcement and tough against crime candidates,,America seems to be waking up that we don’t need more ways to throw more people in prison,,,and that is all congress seems to offer now.

      • War Vet says:

        Dividab, do you really think Miller would do a good job putting up traffic cones on the New Jersey highways if Christie was to giver her a job? Oh, I get it . . . if Miller was the one standing in the middle of the lane that closed off a lot of traffic on that bridge, it would have saved the state some money by not needing to put up so many cones.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        Washington Times, not the Post. But I may be sniggling to suggest that the WashTimes is much different except for the fact that nobody reads the Times except on Capitol Hill.

  22. jean valjean says:

    as an ex high shool english teacher i would give emily a c minus for that piece of writing. hard to believe shes employed as journalist. oh i forgot. its the moonie owned times. no journalists there

    • Rick Steeb says:

      As one who flunked English in high school [more than once], I’m appalled at your use of capitalization and punctuation…
      [Cannabis has largely controlled my disabling ADHD since I graduated;]

      • jean valjean says:

        fair enough. my only excuse is im using an iphone and its easier to use all lower case and minimalist punctuation. my criticism of emilys piece is to do with her lack of argument rather than her gramma.

  23. Duncan20903 says:


    Is there anyone here in need of syrup of ipecac? Here, this diatribe below will turn the trick for free. This one comes from the “freshly decapitated chickens” category:

    America ill-prepared for marijuana mayhem

    By Dr. Keith Ablow
    January 10, 2014

    Yes sir, these people are running amuck, no doubt. It reminds me of an episode from classic Star Trek in which the away team transports down to meet the people living on the planet about 5 minutes before the entire population goes apeshit when the clock reached the red hour.

    linky – 2 minutes

    • allan says:


      Marijuana is not harmless and will lead many millions of people into addiction, depression, psychosis, anxiety and lack of motivation. [emphasis mine – I had to!]

      I’ve been telling my kids the last couple of years, we need to do a ganja zombies movie… now it’s gwan become re-ality.

      Can you imagine Duncan? Millions… MILLIONS! Oh, the horror!

      I had to stop at the first paragraph. I may go back, but not tonite. One paragraph of Ablow is like a hit of hash oil… just one for me thanks!

      • Freeman says:

        I should have heeded your warning, Allan. I read the whole thing.

        He completely contradicts himself in the very next sentence:

        I support legalizing marijuana, because I do not support the government making the decision whether people use it or not.

        So, mj legalization is going to wreak havoc on MILLIONS of people across the nation, and I support that!

        And then comes the familiar bovine scatology:

        I know this sounds alarmist, but it is true, and we are completely unprepared for the fallout.

        Research studies show that cannabis users are at a 40 percent increased risk of psychosis. Research studies show that marijuana may well be a risk factor for schizophrenia, depression and anxiety disorders.

        Uh, yeah, Ablow — which studies? Can you link to one? Can you tell us anything about the veracity of the methods used to determine causation? Did it ever occur to your expert psychiatrist brain that people who suffer from psychosis, schizophrenia, depression, and/or anxiety disorders might be using cannabis to self-medicate for conditions they already have? Didn’t think so.

        The motivation for this article is revealed at it’s conclusion:

        Is it an accident, a meaningful coincidence or part of a toxic slippery slope that we have a disempowering government in Washington and a new way to stay weak wafting like a smokescreen over the land?

        Of COURSE! It’s all Obama’s fault! Those nasty libruls are scheming to destroy the country with the devil weed!

        Dr. Keith Ablow is a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team.

        Advice for Fox employees: if this guy is on the Medical A-Team, whatever you do, DO NOT go to the house doctors for treatment.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        allan, I’m hurt. I posted part of movie proposal here for everyone to consider. It’s called “A Nightmare at 420 Elm Street: Freddy Krueger Smokes the Devil’s Lettuce”. Most people just call it the “The Devil’s Lettuce” for short. Here’s a link to the press release I wrote.

        Oh heck, that was almost 2 years ago. I guess I’m not hurt.
        With some frequency I see people asking “why do they call it dope” but what I want to know is why they call it “devil’s lettuce.” The devil part I understand. But you’d have to be very, very drunk to mistake lettuce for cannabis or vice versa.

    • strayan says:

      So he’s not a prohibidiot.

      Just a plain old idiot.

    • kaptinemo says:

      It’s like a cyst: the more you squeeze, the more infected matter comes out. Sometimes the infected matter has been in there for decades, so it’s really rank and disgusting.

      But it doesn’t come out except under pressure.

      Prohibition has long been a cyst on the back of the body politic, for a century if you start with the Harrison Narcotics Act of 1914 as the baseline. That cyst has grown where most could not see it. Those few who were curious enough, and made the extra effort to see it had to use mirrors…mirrors reflecting the national psyche…and how it was being warped by prohibition caused them to sound the alarm. But until recently, they were the classic Biblical ‘voices in the wilderness’. No more.

      The prohibs are feeling the pressure. Reform is squeezing them on all sides. So, naturally, cyst-like, the worst of their drivel starts to come out. And we’ve only just gotten started squeezing. I fully expect gibbering, wide-eyed lunacy being publicly displayed on the part of our opponents any day now.

      In an aside: has anyone noticed the drop in the amount of ‘Titter factor’ covering cannabis-based news reports? Not quite so many condescending headers about ‘pothead’ stories as you’d expect. Looks like the Media is hedging its’ bets.

      • allan says:

        tobacco is one of the best substances to use in a poultice for drawing out pus from a wound. Doubt it will do anything for prohib cucarachas tho’.

        Personally I’m a fan of the cockroach metaphor – the lights have been turned on and look at ’em scramble!

  24. N.T. Greene says:

    well hey if pot is like heroin or cocaine, maybe we should work on making those legal too.

    of course cocaine is technically schedule II. Odd that they’d choose a drug that’s technically deemed to have a medical use to draw comparisons with…

  25. TrippingWithVeryLargeBombs says:

    “The US Air Force is now investigating 10 officers at six military bases for alleged illegal drug possession, service officials report.

    Nine lieutenants and a captain at bases in the US and Britain have been implicated in the investigation.

    Two nuclear launch control officers at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana are said to be involved in the probe.”

    This is your Nuclear Strike Force on drugs.

    • B. Snow says:

      Yeah, I can’t imagine why sitting in a hole somewhere out in the center of the BFE-FlyOverStates = for days, weeks, & months on end.
      With the primary job of NOT pushing a button – that could lead to the end the world… Might, just maybe – make someone a bit bored, and tempted to indulge in a mental diversion of some sort?

      Last I heard it was synthetic cannabis – but who really knows. I also heard it was like 2 guys not 10, and FWIW – I know/(knew) a guy who had guarded these things for a couple years (we played D&D and whatnot a few years after that when he moved south) – Anywho, He was the ‘straightest lace’ in the whole damn bunch… so to speak.
      Now, This was like a decade ago – and knowing him pretty well, I’d bet/suspect he’s still more or less a teetotaler. As for the younger guys that replaced him -years later- maybe not?
      Then again, he wasn’t ‘down-in-the-hole'(s) he was outside/up-top = guarding acres & acres of “nothing to see here”, I’d imagine that would be monumentally boring but then again who knows?

  26. claygooding says:

    This is now my desktop,,,send it to all your legislators.

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