What We Have to Say About Marijuana and Hemp Production
Americaâ€™s farmers deserve our Nationâ€™s help and support to ensure rural Americaâ€™s prosperity and vitality. Federal law prohibits human consumption, distribution, and possession of Schedule I controlled substances. Hemp and marijuana are part of the same species of cannabis plant. While most of the THC in cannabis plants is concentrated in the marijuana, all parts of the plant, including hemp, can contain THC, a Schedule I controlled substance. The Administration will continue looking for innovative ways to support farmers across the country while balancing the need to protect public health and safety.
Wow. That was just… pathetic.
What We Have to Say About Marijuana and Veterans
Many brave men and women who have risked their lives in service to our country are now suffering from physical, mental health, and substance abuse problems. We have an obligation to care for our military families and veterans and to improve their lives by increasing access to vital treatment services specifically geared toward our military heroes. While the Administration continues to support research on what parts of the marijuana plant may be used as medicine, neither the Food and Drug Administration nor the Institute of Medicine has found smoked marijuana to meet the modern standard of safe or effective medicine. We will continue working with our partners in the medical community to ensure that veterans have access to science-based medical treatments and get the help they and their families need.
Gil’s really phoning these in, isn’t he?
Reforming the Criminal Justice System
Ah, this one’s answered by Deputy Director Benjamin B. Tucker, so it’s much longer, but it still doesn’t answer the question – merely restates all the government’s positions.
They’re not even trying anymore. Kinda feels like an employee who knows they’re about to be fired.
I just received the same three criminal wastes of bandwidth myself. Glad I have a potent anti-emetic herb close at hand…
Its official: the Obama Administration has reviewed industrial hemp and considers it to be a part of the same cannabis plant — essentially the fiber — whereas the drug portion is marijuana.
This is akin to saying that both hemp and marijuana come from the same plant. People grow cannabis and harvest the flowers (“buds”) and smoke it, while the stalk is not smoked, rather its processed into twine, clothing, etc.
This is of course NOT true! Hemp and marijuana are in fact both cannabis, but you can not harvest hemp flowers and expect to get high, just as the stalks of marijuana are not used to produce textiles.
Hemp is marijuana and before the 1940’s,when farmers in France and Spain developed low thc strains of hemp in an effort to have the prohibition of hemp removed.
And the fibers in the marijuana plant are the same and can be used to make textiles but hemp is planted close together to produce tall stalks with little bushing out,,marijuana is spaced to allow expansion.
Ok Gil. You do realize that drug prohibition fuels the terrorist black market . . . everyone knows that at least 80% of 9/11 was financed by drug money and roughly 65% of all the death and injuries to U.S. troops in our two current wars come from drug money. Anyone who supports and enforces drug prohibition during a time of war is a terrorist sympathizer and should be given the full legal penalty of treason during a time of war (death or life in prison). Even the CIA, DEA, U.N. War College and many others admit drug money is the main terrorist benefactor.
And why are they assuming all marijuana is smoked? Donâ€™t they realize it just might be safer than pills and pain meds for PTSD and wounds . . . shouldnâ€™t cannabis be used to supplement portions of the therapy so the Vet can get back to normal life and not spend hours and hours in counseling -but spend fewer hours in counseling -healing from withing with some pot . . . wouldnâ€™t passing the bongs be a good starter for telling war stories with oneâ€™s battle buddies, something found in the healing process . . . couldnâ€™t it reduce Federal Cost on the VA healthcare if non-smoked cannabis helped heal physical and mental scars and physical and mental pain . . . Cannabis smoke is good at clearing and cleaning up the lungs â€“what the hell do you think we inhaled over in Iraq: chemicals, sand, dust, human fecal mater, smoke, carbon, metal, sulfur etc.
In the late 80â€™s, Soviet Russiaâ€™s economy collapsed and they were fighting a long 9yr war against drug money funded Afghanistan â€“the largest war in Soviet history and the only one they ever lost, which caused them to lose all their satellite states since they could no longer afford them. Couldnâ€™t ending prohibition help our economy?
The Know Nothing prohibitionist asserts that drug users are responsible for the crimes of organized criminal syndicates because the users send them money by buying their product. If the users would stop doing that the cartels would wither away and die from money deprivation.
The drug law reform advocate points out that establishing a well regulated retail supply chain and domestic production would take that money away from the foreign criminal interests.
The Know Nothing prohibitionist declares that it will not deprive the cartels of their income because the criminals would replace that cash flow by just switching to other criminal profit centers.
So if everyone quit buying their product the crims wouldn’t be able to replace the same cash flow by just switching to other criminal profit centers? WTF?
The cartels would have to kidnap the entire populace of Mexico in order to make up for the loss of revenue from the drug trade, and then who’s going to pay the ransom?
You know the Gub’mint is on the ropes when this ‘reverse substitution’ (like in ‘crop substitution’) is mouthed by a head of state. Like a poorly equipped debater who’s up against a knowledgeable, unflappable opponent, I await the Gub’mint’s inevitable breakdown where it begins to ‘split hairs’ and dissemble. Oh, wait…
That pretty well sums up their pretzel logic. Problem is that the amount of brain power needed to comprehend these ‘complex’ ideas is just a tad higher than what the ‘average’ human in north america possesses.
Yep. Obama’s shit stinks too.
The Prohibitionist’s Science
I guess we never saw it coming. In 2008 when I heard the
President say that decisions would or should be made
based on science I never realized that science now may
have two different meanings. There is real scientific study
and flawed scientific study but they can both be used as
true science under the science umbrella. Like everything
else now in this country, science can be spun to fit the
I believe we were promised something different. This again
is catering to the coservative vote and in particular the female
I will vote in November. In order for my vote to mean something,
I will leave the President selection blank. The only way to make a
statement. Erode the base.
If Obama loses the election and history holds true then there
will be a Democrat controlled congress in 2014. The best we
can hope for…….leave it blank…erode the base
â€œâ€¦neither the Food and Drug Administration nor the Institute of Medicine has found smoked marijuana to meet the modern standard of safe or effective medicine.â€
The FDA and the Institute of Medicine (IOM) object to marijuana use primarily because of alleged health problems associated with its delivery via smoking it.
Here is what the IOM really says about smoking medical marijuana:
Until a non-smoked rapid-onset cannabinoid drug delivery system becomes available, we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting. — Executive Summary, Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=8
The IOM hasnâ€™t published a new study on marijuana since 2003, and that one is mostly a reprint of a study published in 1999, well before the 2006 research done by Tashkin exonerated marijuana from dubious allegations of causing cancer. Gil Kerlikowske is citing an NGO study that needs a serious upgrade incorporating all the new research on marijuana, here and abroad.
Boy, did Gil get this one wrong. I know from personal experience that industrial hemp is not psychoactive. My roommate and I picked a garbage bag full from a patch of 12 foot plants. We could have smoked the whole bag and not gotten a hint of a buzz.
Poor little Gilly, sounding quite silly;
If he had a brain, he’d drive himself insane:
but as an ex-cop, he has a cow flop.
(explains why he spews bs, don’t it.)
Hehe, Kind of sounds like the American people are talking to a robot: “Marijuana is a Schedule one…we see no other program available…unable to comprehend at a human level…” We need to take our freedom back from these tyrants!
The time has come where the general population is probably better informed and more expert than the “experts”.
I don’t know what to think of this, other than the White House needs to do some critical updates because I think they have missed a few.
i can’t believe you guys still don’t get it: sativex is being fast-tracked for legal use in the U.S. — so what gil and the boys are doing is letting everyone know that the shit is about to hit the fan. oops, it is already happening
criminy, they aren’t even hinting around about it and have been saying it outright for several years: smoked marijuana is not medicine. who says so? the fda and iom — precisely the people who get to decide what is “medicine”
but what the hell, keep buying into the idea that med-pot (with real convincing “medical” brand names like “green crack,” “trainwreck,” “cat piss” and “alaskan thunderfuck” — find your own favorites) will lead to the glorious land of legal recreational use. by this time next year a lot of people are going to have to chow down on several tons of humble pie
oh yeah, and you’ll need to get used to doing a lot of pissing on demand — that’s exactly what their “policy based on science, reason and compassion” spells out. you want them to focus on treatment and prevention? congratulations, that’s exactly what they’re planning on doing.
bye bye oaksterdam, hello universal piss-testing
Who doesn’t get it? I’ve been saying for a long time that the crackdown was partially to clear the table for sativex and rescheduling. They will try to reschedule to allow for sativex, but continue the prohibition on whole plant. Look for legislation to be tried to attach stiff penalties to making tinctures and extractions, a la Canada’s new Crime Bill. And who here is pushing the “treatment” meme? Anybody? Show of hands? Brian? Do you remember where you are?
i see, the usual ad hominem shit from you
nadelmann et al basically wrote the language the prohibs are using. ’nuff said.
Where’s the ad hominem in that? If you want an ad hominem, here ya go: you’re an asshole without a clue.
what a gentleman! and such an outstanding example of reasoned discourse. you must be very proud of yourself
..so proud I’ll give that a thumbs up.
..and all I did was ask where was the ad hominem in my original post (which BTW was quite polite), then helpfully provide you with a handy example so that you might recognize one the next time it comes along.
Okay, I’m sorry, but I’ve tried to bury the hatchet with you many times before, and I’m no longer entertained by that.
thanks for another good laugh! “bury the hatchet” … ??? … in my back maybe.
face it dude, you’re some kind of demented stalker monkey who pisses your skirt over my every word.
you are quite pathetic you little sniveling anonymous shit bagel — now that’s an ad hominem!
but do carry on my little stalker — i find you extremely amusing. perhaps the funniest (and most pathetic) aspect of your behavior is that you won’t be able to simply ignore me.
It’ll be a frigid day in July before Mitch McConnel claps Bambi on the shoulder!
You are 100% on the mark, Brian. If you want the philosophy they are operating on read some stuff by Robert DuPont. He has set the standards and wrote the textbooks on it.
Universal drug testing is what we are now on our way to. Free choice is not out the window…just your job, your unemployment, your drivers license, or if you are unfortunate, your welfare check. Children are taken from mothers by CPS in various states for dirty tests, even in cases where its marijuana alone. Anything that runs off of Government money, which thanks to the drug war, is almost everything. Bad news for the American Constitution – or whats left.
Look. It’s from the patch. It’s effin’ Gross Point. I had a girlfriend from Gross Point in college. Daddy was a banker. Seemed like a nice enough girl, but she could watch a puppy being skinned alive and say “Oh! Isn’t that just LOVELY!” convincingly enough to make you believe her. That entire suburb is perfectly duplicated in Hell, just so the residents will feel at home. Those poor people are fucked.
â€œall parts of the plant, including hemp, can contain THC, a Schedule I controlled substance.â€
Your response to the Hemp Petition reads as hopelessly & pathetically confused, when, actually, itâ€™s not really that difficult: the THC-bearing hemp will measure out to a fraction of a percent; France grows hemp from seeds bred to guarantee one tiny fraction of a percent, other nations have their own tiny percentage requirements â€“ none of which are sufficient to provide a THC high. The US could adopt whatever tiny percentage we deem comfortable â€“ and planting those seeds, bred for that tiny percentage of THC, will endanger NO ONE, but they will supply industrial fodder for hundreds of food, fuel and fiber purposes.
Itâ€™s exceedingly insulting to both of us to have to pretend at this level.
Does your job description require that you keep yourself uninformed? You know 30 industrial competitor nations are GPS registering hemp plots, right? NO NATION has reported a problem with this arrangement. THIS is what the petitioners sought a response to â€“ other nations are doing this now â€“ they also have laws that make THC a controlled substance, yet they are moving ahead with infrastructure and research, while we remain stuck, stymied by brain-dead bureaucrats lacking the imagination to think outside their tiny, discredited, corrupt box.
You need to revise and extend your remarks â€“ you need to acknowledge the point of the petition and address that, rather than begging off like some old woman.
Or, you need to apologize and resign.