Open Thread

bullet image Ethan Nadelmann has been selected to be part of Change.org’s Changemakers network. He talks about how The War on Drugs is a War on People

Change.org: If you could ask 1 million people to all do 1 thing to advance your cause or causes, what would it be?

Come out of the closet about your drug use. Drug war propaganda demonizes and dehumanizes people who use drugs. Let your fellow citizens – your colleagues, your friends, and your family – know the real face of the American drug user.

We need credible people, especially public figures, to stand up and say, “I contribute to society, I work hard, I love my family, and I am an otherwise law-abiding citizen – but I do not believe that people should be treated as criminals simply because of what they put into their bodies. This law is wrong.”

bullet image Outstanding video promoting Students for Sensible Drug Policy (about 10 minutes) with a lot of great people in it.

SSDP’s national conference will be in San Francisco in March, and they’re accepting reservations now (Titled “This is your Brain on Drug Policy.” I’m not sure if I’ll be able to make it this year given my work demands.

bullet image In the Wall Street Journal, A Doctor’s Case For Legal Pot by David L. Nathan

So why do I support decriminalization? First, marijuana prohibition doesn’t prevent widespread use of the drug, although it does clog our legal system with a small percentage of users and dealers unlucky enough to be prosecuted. More to the point, legal cannabis would never become the societal problem that alcohol already is.

In most of my substance-abuse patients, I am far more concerned about their consumption of booze than pot. […]

The time has come to accept that our nation’s attitude toward marijuana has been misguided for generations and that the only rational approach to cannabis is to legalize, regulate and tax it.

bullet image California is free to make its own drug laws by Tamar Todd. A timely reminder about the power of the states, even today.

The Times is simply wrong to suggest that California does not have the authority to tax and regulate marijuana. There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that requires states to criminalize anything. We could scrap our entire penal code tomorrow if we wanted to. States get to decide state law, not Washington. This is why California and 13 other states have been able to legalize and regulate medical marijuana despite continuing federal prohibition.

Certainly, even if AB 390 becomes law, the federal government could still enforce its marijuana laws against California residents. The reality is, however, the federal government does not have the resources to undertake sole — or even primary — enforcement responsibility for state drug crimes. More than 95% of all marijuana arrests in this country are made by state and local law enforcement agencies.

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Maui Time Weekly has a nice feature on LEAP with their interview with David Bratzer. He really nails all the points beautifully.


bullet image DrugSense Weekly – a weekly review of the most interesting or relevant articles in the press and on the web related to drug policy reform.

bullet imageDrug War Chronicle – weekly update of drug war news and analysis from Stop the Drug War.org.

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43 Responses to Open Thread

  1. Just me says:

    Certainly, even if AB 390 becomes law, the federal government could still enforce its marijuana laws against California residents. The reality is, however, the federal government does not have the resources to undertake sole — or even primary — enforcement responsibility for state drug crimes. More than 95% of all marijuana arrests in this country are made by state and local law enforcement agencies.

    The fact is,if all states legalized cannabis ,the federal government not only wouldnt have the resources to to arrest everyone . They also would be under extreme pressure to give up it lies. The is , we the people are more powerful than the government. Remember your voice people, fo it is the key to freedom from this oppressive tyranny and every wastefull corrupt thing they do.

  2. kaptinemo says:

    About the second article, the doctor in favor of repealing cannabis prohibition. At the bottom of the article, you find out who he works for:

    “Dr. Nathan, a psychiatrist in Princeton, N.J., is a clinical assistant professor at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.”

    Robert Wood Johnson Foundation is a major prohib organization funding source, that’s cut millions of dollars in checks for such groups as Partnership For a Drug Free America.

    Is this just one person venting his opinion…or are we beginning to see a major prohib organization reverse its’ stance on drug prohibition? Stay tuned for further developments…

  3. Dudeman says:

    Sorry Kaptin, just because this doc is loosely affiliated with the RWJ medical school doesn’t mean that the RWJF is softening its stance. They can’t simply dictate a professor’s acceptable views due to academic freedom. Maybe at Oral Roberts University…

  4. ethan’s words might carry a bit more weight if dpa actually took advantage of those of us who do stand up and say it out loud.

  5. claygooding says:

    I still hold Judge Gray as our best foot forward speaker for the ending of prohibition. He is the most credible speaker we have that has experience on the prosecution and enforcement of the law.
    If I was running a campaign for medical or legalized marijuana,I would never go to a committee meeting or public forum without him.

  6. Just me says:

    Ethan is right about one thing, when 18-27 years olds stand an vote thing s happen. Now if this same group will not follow this left right paradim and vote for those who WILL repersent the people, then , maybe, then we will see an end to the lies and waste our government is putting our country through. Oh and it would help if everyone else would do the same.

  7. Paul says:

    It is good to point out that California is free to make its own drug laws. Let the Feds enforce their own damn law, California does not need to help them.

  8. Brian is right – as usual.

    And now it appears an ugly sex scandal over at MPP involving Rob Kampia will provide fodder for the prohibitionists. It ain’t gonna be pretty…

  9. Wisconsin reaction to NJ says:

    Like to pass along IMMLY.ORG from Wisconsin’s reaction to the NJ (soon to be,cross my fingers X ) passage of a MM law. This bill has been called a model bill for all future bills according to a current story I read on alternet.org
    http://immly.org/nj2010release.htm

  10. Duncan says:

    Rob Kampia has never been the most ethical fellow. He worked at National NORML prior to starting MPP and I was told that he downloaded NORML’s mailing and membership lists on his way out the door. It’s strange to think Mr. Lewis would insist he remain in charge of MPP if the sexual harassment allegations are true.

  11. DdC says:

    Pat Robertson says Haitian Earthquake from a “pact with the devil”

    “It may be a blessing in disguise. … Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it’s a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other.”
    – Pat Robertson,
    on the earthquake in Haiti that destroyed the capital
    and killed tens of thousands of people, Jan. 13, 2010

    “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion. Many Religious Right activists have attempted to rewrite history by asserting that the United States government derived from Christian foundations, that our Founding Fathers originally aimed for a Christian nation. This idea simply does not hold to the historical evidence.”
    ~ by Jim Walker
    Originated: 11 Apr. 1997
    Additions: 26 Dec. 2004

    How Washington’s Plot Against Haiti Worsened The Earthquake Disaster

    The American mainstream media is covering the Haitian earthquake as it always covers natural disasters: by showing graphic footage of wreckage and issuing plaintive calls for donations to aid agencies without any scintilla of political analysis. There is no other phrase for this style of coverage but disaster porn. (more…)

    Blasphemy

    “How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers,
    communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan,
    secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers,
    revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?”
    — Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p.227

  12. claygooding says:

    MEX:Cartel Inc: In The Company Of Narcos
    Reuters January 16, 2010 Robin Emmott

    Excerpts from a story in Rueters

    It all starts with growers in the Andes, who sell coca paste to intermediaries such as Colombian guerrillas for between $500 and $800 a kilo, according to interviews with farmers and U.S. experts.South American suppliers process the cocaine into a purer form and sell it on to Mexican cartels for up to $6,000 a kilo. Dealers working for the cartels in the United States and Europe break down their loads into individual grams sold between $80 to $100 each, generating between $80,000 and $100,000 a kilo, according to DEA data.
    Some dealers water down the purity of each gram of cocaine and generate even greater profits, but they risk scaring away their customers over time, U.S. anti-drug officials say.

    The costs for the cartels are not insignificant, starting with the need to pay a long chain of bribes. But the earnings are substantial. “It is like a commodities business with huge margins,” said Jose Maria Ramos at the Tijuana-based research institute Colegio de la Frontera Norte near San Diego.
    Demand, too, remains robust. “No single cartel can supply the U.S. market on its own,” Ramos said.

    Mexican cartel franchises and distribution networks in the United States are outsourced, often to U.S. gangs in major cities such as Atlanta and Chicago, or to Mexican illegal immigrants in rural areas who are seeking to boost income.

    I don’t believe they move that cash in trucks.It would take how many trucks to move 40 billion dollars across our border,at 20 million a truck? As the UN drug czar has stated that the only reason most of the major banks around the world did not crash during this economic upheaval,why are they not being busted?
    I believe this story was purchased by the banks to draw attention away from their laundering and transferring funds for the cartels.
    If marijuana is 70% of the cartels cash flow,what would 28 billion dollars not leaving this country,untaxed,do for our economy,if we could grow our own?

    America does not have a marijuana problem,we can find marijuana in any town in America.

  13. claygooding says:

    oops,left this paragraph out.
    When it comes to collecting the profits and getting them back to Mexico in large wads of cash, however, cartel relatives and direct employees are on hand.
    Gangs and distributors take the proceeds from drug sales to networks of cartel cash collectors in U.S. cities who in turn use corrupt currency exchange businesses to swap small bank notes into $100 bills.
    Trusted with up to $20 million hidden in a single vehicle, traffickers use spotters at the border crossings into Mexico to alert them by text messages when they think it is safe to get through. U.S. customs only sporadically check vehicles heading south due to a lack of manpower, although the U.S. government has pledged to step up its south-bound inspections.

  14. claygooding says:

    Crunch the numbers!
    If you give an estimate of $100 a week,or $5000 a year,for the amount of money the average toker spends
    each year,how many tokers does it take to spend 28 billion dollars?
    If you use the statistics quoted by the ONDCP for the number of people that use marijuana regularly in America,how much does each toker spend each year on marijuana?
    As I have said,the ONDCP skews the statistics to keep America from knowing how many people actually smoke
    marijuana in America.

  15. claygooding says:

    And all those estimates do not include the the cash,and users from the west coast,that don’t buy cartel weed,or as much of it.

  16. DdC says:

    20 million American tokers x .5g joints per day = 10M grams
    28g/oz @ $300/oz streets = $107,142,857.15
    Apothecaries @ $60/8th = $480.00/oz
    Homegrown in the herb garden: priceless…

    Attorney To Dismiss Cases of Pot Possession
    Seattle’s new city attorney is dismissing all marijuana-possession cases, starting with those that were already under way under the old city attorney. City Attorney Pete Holmes, who beat incumbent Tom Carr in November, said he dismissed two marijuana-related cases in his first day on the job, and several others are about to be dismissed.

    The Pot Dispensary Wars
    Medical marijuana backers just won’t take yes for an answer. The Denver City Council this week took the extraordinary step of passing regulations that will allow 200 to 300 marijuana dispensaries in a town where none existed just months ago. Not a single council member voted no. So were dispensary backers grateful? Not on your life. The hearing was rife with complaints that the restrictions trampled on patient and caregiver rights. A lawsuit was threatened. From the alarmed reaction, you’d have thought the council had been supplanted by a cabal of pot prohibitionists from the attorney general’s office.

    Sex, Drugs, Violence and the Bible

    Pharmakeia: George W. Bush, The Apocalypse and the War on Weed

    Pat Robertson: Haitian Quake by a pact with devil

  17. tinkerbelle says:

    I can also easily come on-line with a pseudo name from a friend’s computer.

    I’m just trying to compromise here too.

    What in the hell did I do to offend you guys pray tell?

    Or is that too much to ask for to?

  18. Wendy says:

    Why are you not interested in my war on drugs and the children’s lives it has ruined?

    I am too talking about drug policy and its needed reform.

    I join in many of the conversations and many of these men’s very lengthy comments are eight or ten in a row.

    I have never heard you warn DdC about his calling me a boozer, crank, etc. the other night.

    • Pete says:

      Because as far as I can tell, you have not been interested in talking about it. You haven’t said anything coherent in all your posts here about your little war on drugs. Sure, I’ve gone ahead and read the court transcripts, etc., so I know a little bit about it, but you haven’t told a story or presented a case here. In going back through all your postings here, most of them have either been to try to improve google rankings or have been obscene comments about individuals in the case without any context. If you want to talk about your drug war, get your own blog, or… politely submit something to me (just like Bailey did here) and maybe I’ll print it, if it’s interesting and well written and relevant to the point of this blog.

      Otherwise, get involved a conversation about what we talk about in this blog, which tends not to be about people’s individual cases, but rather about policy, the media, and ways to get things changed. A lot of people write me about their arrest or their particular case, and this is not that kind of blog.

      This is my blog and I set the rules. When I tried to explain them to you, you called me a chicken-shit. This is my blog, I don’t need that. I pay for all the costs of running this blog, and I’ve worked very hard on it for 7 years for no pay. So I can be arbitrary if I want. If I’m spending more time putting out fires in the comments section than reading about drug policy, then I’m not doing any good, and it’s easier just to ban someone.

  19. Wendy says:

    Thank you, Pete.

  20. Just me says:

    Good move Pete, you gave her an opportunity.That was as fair as you could be.

  21. Cliff says:

    Well played Pete. I applaud your civility and respect for everyone who comments here. You have allowed everyone to go on tangents, but by golly there has to be a limit and a point for the tangent to tie into so it flows with the conversation and provides a coherent dialogue. She obviously has a lot of passion for her cause, I hope she finds a way to address her needs without becoming a nuisance and causing people to hate her, that can’t help at all.

  22. Tim says:

    This is interesting reading. (And I’ve seen this at work in some movements.)

    Got Fascism? : Obama Advisor Promotes ‘Cognitive Infiltration’

    [W]e suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of believers by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity. (Page 219.)

    Read this paragraph again. Unpack it. Work your way through the language and the intent. Imagine the application. What do we learn?
    It is “extremists” who “supply” “conspiracy theories.”
    Their “hard core” must be “broken up” with distinctive tactics. What tactics?
    “Infiltration” (“cognitive”) of groups with questions about official explanations or obfuscations or lies. Who is to infiltrate?
    “Government agents or their allies,” virtually (i.e. on-line) or in “real-space” (as at meetings), and “either openly or anonymously,” though “infiltration” would imply the latter. What will these agents do?
    Undermine “crippled epistemology” — one’s theory and technique of knowledge. How will they do this?
    By “planting doubts” which will “circulate.” Will these doubts be beneficial?
    Certainly. Because they will introduce “cognitive diversity.”
    Put into English, what Sunstein is proposing is government infiltration of groups opposing prevailing policy. Palestinian Liberation? 9/11 Truth? Anti-nuclear power? Stop the wars? End the Fed? Support Nader? Eat the Rich?

  23. Tim says:

    This is somewhat related: a PR campaign for children’s services. Hey kids, does your mom do drugs? Give us a call and we can get you out right away!

  24. Pete says:

    Link didn’t come through, Tim.

  25. ezrydn says:

    She’s gonna see “me” in court, as I’m evidently one who considers themselves one of the group? This will truly be good to watch. She’s more than welcome to try and bring me before a judge. Anytime, anywhere. anyhow. Hope she has a long cross-border reach.

    Yet, she’s welcome to try. Pete’s put several of us in our places when we began to rant but we understood we were wrong. Some just can’t click to that thought format.

    Let’s get this perfectly clear. This is Pete’s House, plain and simple, just as your home is your house. You have say in your house. Pete has say in his. Don’t like it? Don’t come over. That’s what my grandmother would tell you.

    Over the years I’ve parked myself on this couch, I’ve seen that it takes quite a bit to get on the wrong side of Pete. One has to really go out of their way to do it, too. In the years he’s been online, I think you could count the banned IPs on one hand.

    She does her “friends” a huge disservice by having THEIR IPs banned. However, she gives no thought to that. Such a caring soul.

  26. Just me says:

    [W]e suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of believers by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity. (Page 219.)

    Tim and everyone,
    I have seen this before. I was on another reform site one time, this one postee got a division going between one group for a certain known reform ‘leader’ and group for another certain known reform ‘leader’.

    This postee got these groups slamming each other over who has done more for reform,who was right as to just cannabis legalization and all drug legalization. Postee got them arguing and fighting over whether cannabis could or couldnt cure cancer.

    I was appalled that they so easily fell into this trap of infighting.

    I pointed out(on the point of cannabis & cancer) that it didnt matter who was right, we havent even gotten our government out of the way so we could prove or disprove
    this through research.

    I stated we are all in this together and I was ashamed they let one hack postee divid them.

    the fighting stopped immediately.

    Now I’m not saying Wendy was one of these hacks, she may just be too angery to see what she was doing. I’m just saying we dedicated reformers that post often need to watch for this, guard our fellow reformers against this infiltration.

  27. Hope says:

    Renaeton. I’m assuming you might read this.

    You seem to deal with everything with overwhelming displays of rage. That’s not conversing or interacting with other people.

    That is what’s supposed to be going on here. Conversing and interacting. We, as individuals, read here and learn and try to plot a better way, together. We are trying to plot, to change a political disaster, that hurts people, like it did you, and sometimes kills them. You and others like you are all part of the reason this must be done. It’s so wrong to treat people like they are … over substances they consume. It’s about you and what happened to you and a lot of other people, too. To do all this we, most of us, I think, consider the thoughts of others and have discussions sometimes and sometimes we just read and don’t say anything.

    From some of your comments, you seem to be a religious, or spiritual person. I wonder about the God you believe in. I gather it’s something like a very, very scary, vengeful, spiteful, dark and furious God that you wish to incite to rain down terror on others.

    I’ve thought a lot about talking to you, before this. I wanted to comfort you, but of course, I was afraid to, lest your spite be aimed at me, and because I knew that if I spoke to you that I could easily, sooner or later, probably sooner, become the target of your remarkable rage.

    Perhaps you can’t describe what you believe now, but from listening to you… and I did listen to you, I think your vision of God is something like a very angry and deadly and dangerous being that favors you well above the rest of his creation.

    Has it ever occurred to you that your God might love the rest of humanity too?

    Did you ever think he, or she, might in some place in his, or her, heart, care about the people that have foolishly attacked and hurt you?

    You never could find a way to forgive anyone, even slightly? Not even, “Well… he’s an idiot…and idiots can’t help it… and I have to forgive him…”?

    Nope?

    I didn’t think so.

    I think, based on things you’ve said, you think the man that many people see as God in the flesh… “He lowered himself a little lower than the angels… and took upon himself a robe of flesh… that he might experience death…” was a good man… a prophet… a teacher … a wise man, and all that.

    You don’t believe in all that prophecy fulfilled and love and forgiveness baloney.

    Your keyboard literally spews curses. When I say “Curses”, I don’t mean common expletives. I don’t mean cussing. I mean flung verbal bolts of lightning… sent to inflict pain and kill and destroy. I mean a spell… a divining… a powerful emotional judgment and pronouncement of hatred and rage aimed directly at certain people for vengeance, for revenge, to purposely hurt and destroy them as an act of righteous retribution against them. A hideous and hateful thing, really. No mercy. No forgiveness.

    Renaeton, don’t you know about the real power of curses? They are like boomerangs. They always come back to you… to get you. The have a full circle, fulfillment aspect.

    And yes… I still fear you will appear, in all your rage and glory… and start cursing the living daylights out of me and everything and everyone connected to me… throughout eternity! Cursed by Tinkerbelle!

    Please God! No!

    I don’t relish the idea.

  28. Hope says:

    It’s obvious how a site can be harmed by some commenters.

    I feel a bit bruised. But our “Plotting” for good, must continue.

  29. jackl says:

    One interesting sidenote to the important cliffhanger special election in Massachusetts is that the once shoo-in, now flailing Democratic candidate AG Martha Coakley, is a typical obnoxious drug warrior.

    Two years ago, Massachusetts had a citizen referendum which won with 65% of the vote, to decriminalize small amounts of marijuana with a $100 ticket rather than criminal arrest. Coakley and the chiefs of police types actively campaigned against the measure, citing the sky falling if it won. When it won in a landslide, Coakley shifted tactics and grautiously approved a model local ordinance which would attempt to reinstate the powers to arrest the people benefitted by the state law change. She then openly encouraged local mayors and police chiefs to defy the will of the state voters by enacting these pre-approved model local ordinances to thwart the decriminalization referendum.

    Coakley has also opposed other reforms, such as allowing minor criminal convictions to be wiped off the slate and not be disclosed to future employers on job applications.

    As much as I want a 60 senator majority, I’m conflicted when I see people like Coakley run. Her opponent is probably worse. But even though people probably won’t connect the dots as to the reasons for her unpopularity I’m discussing here, I guess on the whole I hope she loses, at least emotionally. It would be a shame if health care and other reform is killed by this, but, so it goes I guess…

  30. DdC says:

    Not that hard to find the trolls. They never stick to the topic or answer direct questions or even add opposing comments. Just trash and burn and ugly the thread in hopes no one reads farther.
    Another form of censorship, just one more scale of the fascist fish. They were very sucessful with the corporate owned TV and Radio. Keeping Ganja truth away from the viewing audience. When the stakes are high the fascist twits lie. Corporations keeping a viable medicine from US citizens. Keeping a viable alternative to the corporate fossil fools, trees and chemicals. But they wouldn’t lie? They wouldn’t try to disrupt the only Ganja free speech available? They started a war In Iraq over lies and media involvement. Media censorship and political manuvering has kept Ganja and Hemp illegal when most know it should never have been placed as a schedule#1 narcotic. They lie and they troll and they kill and bilk trillions out of the tax payers while tea baggers bitch about we the people actually getting some of it. Volunteer slaves…

    Bivings Group
    Bivings work, premised on the power of the Internet, engages in covert online attacks and web based front groups.

    Osborn & Barr Communications
    Osborn & Barr was formed in 1988 with Monsanto as its founding client. The company’s slogan is, “We create belief.” – Friday, January 15, 1999 Osborne & Barr to harvest Monsanto’s ag marketing.

    Big Lies by Joe Conason
    The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth

    The Wrecking Crew, on How Conservatives Rule
    “Fantastic misgovernment of the kind we have seen is not an accident, nor is it the work of a few bad individuals. It is the consequence of triumph by a particular philosophy of government, by a movement that understands the liberal state as a perversion and considers the market the ideal nexus of human society. This movement is friendly to industry not just by force of campaign contributions but by conviction.”

    Authoritarians and the Drug War by Pete Guither
    Drug WarRant Saturday, February 17, 2007

  31. DdC says:

    If you are a Victim of Cyberstalking

    U.S. Department of Justice. (August 1999). Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry — A Report from the Attorney General to the Vice President. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, pp. 2, 6.

    Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines, online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked. Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]

    More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books designed to get a reaction or response from their victim,

    Bonner & Associates
    A lobbying / public relations firm that specializes in “grassroots” and third party campaigns. Its website says it “locate[s], educate[s], and mobilize[s] … [o]rganizations and constituencies that matter politically … to support our clients’ positions credibly and effectively.”

    Defining Domestic Propaganda
    The Government Accountability Office is investigating three cases where the Bush administration paid journalists to promote a certain policy. NPR’s Madeleine Brand examines the cases and explores the definition of propaganda.

  32. claygooding says:

    I think they are using the divide and conquer theory. It is a time proven tactic,and will not work if the end goal is kept concrete in our thoughts.

  33. Hope says:

    Hmmm. Those Bonner people.

    Seems they go out and gather up any “grassroots” groups, clubs, and organizations you might need for some kind of campaign.

    Wonder what they would do if they worked for us?

  34. Paul says:

    Jackl,

    Coakley was a former prosecutor. Back in her day, she headed up one of the dreadful preschool molestation trials. It is no surprise she is a cop’s best friend, and no friend of liberty at all. It would be hard for her opponent to be worse.

    You may want to rethink your wish for the Democrats to totally run the table and become filibuster proof in the senate. Right now, that is the only roadblock against them getting anything they want. Newspapers like to complain about a congress that does nothing, but I think it is the best feature about our system of government. Divided government slows the march to fascism.

    Back when the Republicans had full control of the congress and the presidency, I thought, “Ah, at last! Now we’ll finally see government rolled back to something more manageable!” Instead, they just increased taxes and spending, started two wars and directed public funds to their friends.

    The Democrats are now almost completely in charge of the government. They, too have increased taxes and spending, maintained the two existing wars, and are directing public money to their friends.

    Feel any freer?

  35. Just me says:

    Authoritarians and the Drug War by Pete Guither
    Drug WarRant Saturday, February 17, 2007

    Thanks for reposting that Ddc, nice read Pete and I agree.

    Authoritarians and the Drug War by Pete Guither
    Drug WarRant Saturday, February 17, 2007

    Paul:Fell any freer?

    Nope, just looks like the other side of the coin. SSDD.

  36. DdC says:

    Hmmm. Those Bonner people.

    “Arbitrary and capricious” is legal language that was used by DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young in 1988 to conclude that DEA was obligated under the Controlled Substances Act to reschedule marijuana as a prescription medicine. DEA Chief Administrator Robert Bonner proceeded to arbitrarily and capriciously disregard Judge Young’s well researched and reasoned decision, which the Act allowed him to do.

    Hmmm. Those Bonner people???

    Conservative Watch

    Coal industry Astroturf
    In July 2009, the company was caught forging letters to Representative Tom Perriello.

    Behind The Forged Letters: Jack Bonner’s “White-Collar Sweatshop”
    Last week, Jack Bonner blamed a “bad employee” for the fact that his lobbying firm had sent forged letters, purporting to be from local minority groups, urging a member of Congress to oppose climate change legislation. (It’s since been revealed that Bonner’s firm was working on behalf of the coal industry.) But a closer look suggests a culture at Bonner and Associates that makes such deception all but inevitable. As one former employee put it, at Bonner, distortion “was the norm rather than the exception.”

  37. Hope says:

    Whoa! The Bonner people. Crooked professional lobbyists? Who would have thought?

  38. Tim says:

    Just me: yeah, my agent provocateur detector is pretty ripe. A couple of years ago some unknown joined a group I’m involved in and immediately started dictating policy, calling the press and scheduling events on our behalf (without our permission and without thinking) and criticizing the mayor of Winnipeg, among other things. When the story below came out he disappeared immediately.

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1738/a10.html

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