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Law enforcement organizing to combat citizens

Over at officer.com is Turning Over a New Leaf:
California chiefs, others aim to keep the country from going to pot
by Rebecca Kanable. Any article that turns to Judy Kreamer for advice has sunk really low.

Basically, the article is a call for law enforcement officers to get more active in the fight against… us, lamenting that “Advocates of drug decriminalization are often well-funded” and “Unfortunately, law enforcement isn’t always asked to weigh-in on a debate like decriminalization.”

It’s a piece of crap not worth debunking, but I thought you might get a kick out of it.

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17 comments to Law enforcement organizing to combat citizens

  • Balloon Maker

    No, it’s not worth debunking, but it might be worth noting that only one side in this debate uses guns and prisons to make its point

  • Jon Doe

    “Unfortunately, law enforcement isn’t always asked to weigh-in on a debate like decriminalization.”

    Funny, whenever I hear I cop give his option on the subject, it’s usually something like “I didn’t make the law, I just enforce it”. Good, so don’t bitch when the people are trying to change the law. After all this is America, isn’t it?

  • and the myth that we’re “well funded” is just that, an f’in myth. As far as I’ve seen we’re scratching for every penny we get. Our movement grows and proceeds because of the time so many invest. There ain’t no freaking money in this. Plenty of heartburn tho’…

    In fact Ms Linda has stated more than once that we (evil “legalizers”) are paid to respond to online polls. Is someone out there getting a check for responding to polls? Tell me, ’cause I’ll sign up.

    And LE is due for a butt spank themselves. All that fed grant money (Byrne, etc) will dry up soon and then let us see how their enthusiasm wanes.

  • kaptinemo

    Oh, man, if these people weren’t wearing sidearms and badges, they’d be rounded up by people wearing sidearms and badges for being dangerously delusional.

    And I echo Allan’s sentiment about the money; I sure could do with some extra cash, and I’ve proven to be a ‘wordy barstid’ as a Brit friend once jokingly observed, so where can I dip from this supposed high-pressure artesian gusher of reformer moolah? (Looking around, nobody in sight, crickets chirping) Huh. Thought so. Just like Santy Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Another myth…

  • kaptinemo

    And so far, the comments have all been from reformers castigating the report and the anti-democratic attitudes displayed within it.

    I really, truly would like to see a court case in which the origins of cannabis prohibition and all the debunked studies that are still used by prohibs to justify its’ continuance entered as evidence and eviscerated by a good defense lawyer. The looks on the faces of any African- and Hispanic American jurors present when that happens would alone be worth the effort.

  • ezrydn

    They can go ahead and drop the “..to protect and to serve” mottos off their cruisers if they’re planning on taking such an approach. They have turned from Officer Friendly whom everyone in the neighborhood knew and confided in to the Great Amerikan Gestapo.

  • ezrydn

    Also, Chief Kirkland is ranting about potency going from 4 to 10%. Odd that he said nothing about the availability of a 100% THC capsule. He must not get his cut of that action.

  • Judy is a special human being to me, she is passionate and cares about what she does but she is rude and unkind. I remember her commenting in the row behind me during a medical cannabis committee hearing four years ago about how she felt that the patients we had there in wheelchairs were “faking it.” The college of complexes tried to arrange a debate with myself and ms. kraemer but she never even returned their call they told me. For what its worth though the educating voices logo is pretty cool and psychedelic i think. . . . . . .

  • DdC

    Quarter Of All US Presidents Used Cannabis Sep 1 2009
    From George Washington to Barack Obama, over the course of the United States’ history no less than eleven Presidents grew and/or used cannabis (hemp and marijuana).

    Celebrity Stoners: American High Society

    “Blasphemy” the blog

    “This would be the best of all possible worlds,
    if there were no religion in it.”

    — John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

    Harper Appoints Evangelical Pastor to ‘Study’ Marijuana and Schizophrenia

    Harper’s Schizoid Religious Appointment Crosses Line

    Schizophrenia and young people…
    Does cannabis make it worse?
    One of the studies used to “prove” a link utilized synthetic THC being injected into British men, which resulted in a negative psychological effect. However, no one injects cannabis, and certainly not pure synthetic THC! Additionally, the incidence of schizophrenia has not risen at all since the 1960s when marijuana use became popular

  • DdC

    Hempanol
    In this day of oil wars, peak oil (and the accompanying soaring prices), climate change and oil spills such as the Exxon-Valdez, it’s more important than ever to promote sustainable alternatives such as hemp ethanol. Hemp turns out to be the most cost-efficient and valuable of all the fuel crops! And as it turns out, the whole reason for hemp prohibition – and alcohol prohibition – may have been a fuel monopoly!

    Ganja/Hemp

    “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me
    and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country…
    Corporations have bee enthroned,
    an era of corruption in high places will follow,
    and the money-power of the country will endeavor
    to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people
    until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands
    and the Republic is destroyed.”

    — Abraham Lincoln, November 12, 1864

  • DdC

    Oh but wait, what does Hempenol have to do with
    Law enforcement organizing to combat citizens?

    “We’ve got a national campaign by drug legalizers,
    in my view, to try and use medicinal uses of drugs
    and legalization of hemp as a stalking horse
    to get in under the radar screen.”

    ~ Gen. Barry McCaffrey – Former Drug Czar (Clinton)

    “…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana
    is its effect on the degenerate races.”

    – Harry J. Anslinger – America’s 1st Drug Czar (FDR – JFK)

  • kaptinemo

    “Educating Voices”, huh? Andrea Barthwell’s old gang? Their list of corp-rat officers reads like a Who’s Who of drug prohibition money trough-feeders. No surprise that an LE organization would only ask that bunch to speak. Talk about an ‘echo chamber’…

  • Brandon Bowers

    Check the comments on the article. No one even believes the lies anymore.

  • Buc

    Yeah, you have to love how much our side kicks ass in the comment sections nowadays.

  • DdC

    No American should have to beg for healthcare.

    How can any rational human being sit by day after day and let this train wreck play out? These smaller and smaller group of Ganjawar profiteers make ALL Americans look like flat out blood thirsty homicidal torturers and terrorists.

    Easy to believe they would do the same to third world countries. Or places to pillage their resources bribing a few officials. Invading Iraq, giving Sadamn chemical weapons or doping the food supplies with adulterations and poisons. How do we know for sure, trust me? Trust someone who would put an MS patient or Vet in prison for taking care of themselves, even with a Physicians recommendation. Or remove a contributing healthy person for no other reason than blind allegiance to wealthy fascists policy and corporations.

    Many not even getting kickbacks, just teabagging out of gullibility and horshit, flung wrapped in pretty bows. Americans are being killed every day by those we pay to protect us. Thats called being a wingnut folk’s. Enough of the predictions. And please somebody slap Kliengman for me, or at least hit the parasite with a cream pie. Gossip kills as many as the bad laws perpetuated.

    No more asking! Time to start Telling! As an American I find this embarrassing and shameful and a totally Un-American activity. Sick people have to plead for something that helps them? Sick people ya fucking idiots!

    Iowans Plead Cases at Medical Marijuana Hearing

    Eight speakers, all but one advocating for the use of medical marijuana, pleaded their cases Wednesday morning to the Iowa Pharmacy Board at a public hearing in Mason City.

    “I find it morally reprehensible that a doctor is not allowed to write me a prescription for marijuana when he knows that it is the best medicine I could have for my symptoms” A Vietnam veteran suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, seizures and anxiety attacks

    It was effective as an anti-convulsant

    helped him to sleep at night.

    multiple sclerosis patient who was jailed for possession of less than a gram of marijuana in 2005, became emotional talking about how smoking marjuana had helped him.

    “It gave my body strength,”
    “I felt a lot more mobilized and I could move better.
    It made me not depressed.”

    D.E.A.th cheerleaders make me nausous and that makes me toke more. Maaaaadeeeene’s a dope trafficker sponsor!

    Maedene Sappenfield of Mason City listened to the arguments, but spoke out against the use of marijuana for medical purposes.

    “I have a son-in-law in North Carolina who has MS and he functions without marijuana very well, so it is possible,” she said. “My opinion is that legalizing marijuana is opening a door.”

  • paul

    Yeah, the comments in that article are great.

    Prohibitionist reporters pitching softballs to their authoritarian buddies in law enforcement are going to have to remember to turn comments off at the bottom of their stories, or the public’s reaction is going to spoil all their hard work.

    I agree that cops should be professionally neutral, but of course they are not. They certainly have a right to express their personal opinions, and I don’t see anything wrong with them talking to reporters on the job to answer relevant questions.

    It is crossing the line when they go beyond that and actively use their positions as police officers to change the law, or use department resources and time to lobby. In those situations, we are essentially paying them to propagandize the public. Similar government propaganda coming from any source is a bad thing. Government, ideally, should be neutral.

  • kaptinemo

    “It is crossing the line when they go beyond that and actively use their positions as police officers to change the law, or use department resources and time to lobby. In those situations, we are essentially paying them to propagandize the public. Similar government propaganda coming from any source is a bad thing. Government, ideally, should be neutral.”

    Paul, that is exactly why the Hatch Act was written, to maintain that neutrality. Unfortunately, the DrugWar has emasculated the Hatch Act, at least as far as actually enforcing it goes. The ONDCP’s imprimatur to use taxpayer supplied funds to fight democratically-derived attempts at legalization efforts is proof of just how far things are out of whack.

    If the Hatch Act were enforced as it should be, those police in that article wouldn’t dare imply they could use their ‘influence’ to counter the ‘will of the people’. That it isn’t is a major miscarriage of justice…but, then, this is the DrugWar we’re talking about.