The New York Times has something to say

And they say it well.

Excellent editorial: The Push for Legal Marijuana Spreads by the editorial board.

Support for making marijuana legal is increasing around the world, and that is a good thing. […]

Laws banning the growing, distribution and possession of marijuana have caused tremendous damage to society, with billions spent on imprisoning people for violating pointlessly harsh laws. Yet research shows that marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol and tobacco, and can be used to treat medical conditions like chronic pain. […]

What’s needed now is responsible leadership from President Obama and Congress. They ought to seriously consider the kind of legislation Mr. Sanders has proposed. His bill would remove marijuana, or “marihuana” as it is called in federal law, from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act, which is meant for drugs that have a high potential for abuse and no medical use. […]

A growing group of activists, judges and lawmakers is showing the world a path to more sensible drug policies. Mr. Obama and Congress should join them.

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21 Responses to The New York Times has something to say

  1. jean valjean says:

    Ha ha. Even Chucky Rosenberg has said the result in Ohio was “an anomaly.” Bye-bye prohibitionists. The whole of the left coast of the north American continent, from Mexico to the arctic will be re-legalized by 2017.

  2. Will says:

    Yet another reasonable, pragmatic editorial. One of seemingly millions over the years, from a variety of sources. But then this;

    “What’s needed now is responsible leadership from President Obama and Congress”.

    Oh well.

  3. Duncan20903 says:


    Recently I posted that I thought that the prohibitionist parasites and their sycophants would have an entire year to enjoy their Ohio “victory.” It appears that I may have been incorrect. Well I’m keeping my fingers crossed because this is an occasion when I would very much like to be wrong. Another one from the “read ’em and weep Mr. Prohibitionist” category:

    [Vermont] lawmakers meet to discuss marijuana legalization bill


    A group of Vermont Senators are skipping the debate over whether to legalize marijuana and heading straight to the debate over how.

    Lawmakers have a number of scheduled meetings before the legislature returns in January to discuss legalization.

    While there may be growing consensus in favor of legalization, even proponents don’t agree on how that should be done.

    Lawmakers met Tuesday to discuss what could the stickiest social issue of the legislative session set to resume in January: recreational marijuana legalization.

    Government Operations Committee Chairwoman Sen. Jeanette White, D-Windham County, hopes to crowdsource the best regulatory ideas to streamline debate later.

    White says the bill will not allow for edible products outside of medical dispensaries. But many elements remain undecided like whether to limit the number of retail outlets, or even allow for a pot lounge.

    “We see a market open to any Vermonter who wants to participate, where home-growers, craft-growers and large grow operations are integrated together to meet demand,” said Bill Lofy, Gov. Peter Shumlin’s former Chief of Staff.

  4. claygooding says:

    The “failure” in OH proved beyond a shadow of doubt that potheads and MMJ patients wouldn’t take it up the ass to get it when it is already available.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      Probably. Presuming the accusations of prohibitionists engaged in stuffing the virtual ballot box is just another lame conspiracy theory. But even I have to admit that 64-36 is so far beyond the pale, combined with considering the actions of the dirtballs who hold positions of public authority in Ohio that it needs to be investigated.

  5. Ned says:

    Good of course but still stupid things are said. It was not made illegal to begin with for being exceptionally “harmful” or “dangerous” and more so than other things. Sure any reasoning will do I guess for legalization but it was made illegal out of extreme racism and xenophobia. That IS important to keep in the discussion and important for ending the drug war generally and prison/sentencing reform specifically. Also that Schedule 1 is a political document not a scientific one.

    And why will Bernie have it illegal to transport across State lines?

  6. DdC says:

    And why will Bernie have it illegal to transport across State lines?

    More appeasing the prohibitionists. It started out by removing it, period. Then to let states decide imo was wrong. Jim Crow or segregation was no different. It was outlawed federally because of states persecution. Unless states are stripped of their ability to persecute based on reefer madness. It will be a mess. Problem is states have laws more draconian than the Feds. It should be removed from the CSA, BUT it should be left to science, not politicians anymore than any other law of science. States don’t have the right to defy gravity either.

    First and foremost doctors need to be educated in Med School. As it stands there are no schools teaching the Endocannabinoid system or properties of Ganja. Cops should not even be in the same building as any debate. They have no integrity. They have no expertise and they do have plenty of vested ignorance maintaining prohibition against the will of the people in many cases. Same with politicians and quack doctors like Unkle Benny.

    Who’s Really Fighting Legal Weed
    ☛ 3/4th of a Century of Gossip and Gutter Science
    ☛ A Very Lucrative Evil Hoax
    ☛ Survey of the Endocannabinoid System in Medical Schools”
    Only 13% of the medical schools surveyed mention the endocannabinoid science to our future doctors. Not one of the medical schools surveyed had a department of endocannabinoid science or an ECS director. None of them taught the endocannabinoid science as an organized course.

    • Uncle Albert's Nephew says:

      Maybe Bernie’s actually trying to get the wretched bill passed. It’s called not making perfect the enemy of the possible.

      • B. Snow says:

        Some folks get an Equine as an unexpected present, and immediately start giving it a dental exam.

        A few people have already had a Pony, or a decent Quarter Horse for years (decades even) and are upset that they aren’t getting an upgrade = to a Magic Pony or a Unicorn.

        Others of us would be happy with a Mule hybrid = strong enough to reliably carry us down the trail without hurting itself, and teeth well-enough for it to eat…

        Some are afraid that in the process – things may change – they might have to temporarily settle for the same sort of “good enough to ride” Mule.

        Since they live in the land of magical flying unicorns, and because they can manage to ride one now and then, they shouldn’t have to risk settling for anything less…

        Even if that means the rest of us might have to keep on walking indefinitely.

        • Windy says:

          I LOVE horses, especially the Arabian, the Friesian and the most beautiful of them all, the Gypsy Vanner; but for trail riding, especially in the mountains, I’ll take a mule over a horse, mules are the most sure footed equines around.

  7. Mr_Alex says:

    It seems Project SAM was also started by Melvin Sembler, whats funny is that Melvin Sembler and Betty Sembler claim to be poor after the lawsuits against Straight Inc in 1993, I seriously wonder if Melvin Sembler moved some of the $$$$$ out of the US into a Swiss style Bank Account where it cannot be touched by US federal agents, I suspect the money that was used to start Project SAM, SMART Colorado, Parents Opposed to Pot, Drug Free Kids and etc prohib groups. My suspicion is that the money is in fact the torture made by Melvin Sembler when children were tortured at Straight Inc.

    Earlier in the year when I confronted Kevin Sabet on twitter and when he visited a drug conference in New Zealand which was sponsored by the New Zealand Government, I asked the question right in front of a crowd and some New Zealand people asked Kevin Sabet if he was involved in child torture at Straight Inc and the second question was the money from Melvin Sembler which started Project SAM, SMART Colorado, Parents Opposed to Pot and other prohib groups was the money made by Melvin Sembler when Straight Inc was torturing children at their rehab.

    Kevin Sabet found the question highly sensitive and did not want to answer the question

  8. Mr_Alex says:

    A source on facebook has confirmed Project SAM was started and financed by Betty and Melvin Sembler but in terms of Kevin Sabet’s position, it is more revealing

    Apparently Kevin Sabet’s PHD is in social policy not medical policy and its been admitted that Kevin Sabet’s position was brought and paid for by Melvin Sembler in the University of Florida

  9. claygooding says:

    Bernie Sanders has already changed the atmosphere in the campaign,,even Hillary is “claiming” support of moving marijuana from Schedule 1 to 2 but since the privately owned prisons finance her campaign people are calling it an empty campaign promise,,to be forgotten the minute she takes the oath of office.

    And (R) candidates are starting to jump onboard.

    The (R) and (D) are scared of Bernie and the only way they can keep one of the largest bipartisan voting blocks from putting him in office is to legalize before the (D) candidate is selected.

    Well played Bernie Sanders!!!


    • claygooding says:

      Now Hillary “ketchup” Clinton is supporting moving cannabis from S-1 too S-2.

      Keeping in mind she didn’t want to legalize MMJ because she thought it needed more testing but did not support removing it from Schedule 1 just last week.

      This is getting real interesting because her following the Bern’s political platform is actually endorsing Sanders,,FARM OUT

      and THUD

    • Windy says:

      The Rs and Ds have fucked up this country so badly over the past century or longer, QUIT VOTING FOR THEM; no matter what they claim in their campaign promises, they will only do MORE damage in the end! Choose ANY other party than those two! The libertarians want total freedom for everyone, including legal weed; the greens also want legal weed; and the Marijuana Party is basically just that in a nutshell — all for legal weed. If you are a one issue voter vote for one of them, if your issues are greater than just this one, chose the libertarians for the greatest amount of freedom, or the greens if you are an avid environmentalist. Only when people STOP voting for the Rs and Ds will they begin to actually do what the people want; currently it doesn’t matter what the people want, the government ignores us in favor of the big donors to the elected’s coffers.

      • primus says:

        When you throw out a R and elect a D, they merely swap jobs. The D quits his ‘day job’ and the R is given one, either in ‘public service’ or at a corporation run by one of his large donors. They are always well taken care of. It sort of looks like a revolving door, where they move back and forth between a private sector ‘job’ and an elected or appointed position. There is no fear, and it really doesn’t matter to the candidate whether they win or lose, because they will be taken care of no matter what—as long as they keep those big corporations happy.

    • Tony Aroma says:

      Moving mj to Schedule 2 or 3 doesn’t really accomplish much, and may actually be counterproductive, compared to de-scheduling. Remember cocaine and amphetamine are schedule 2, and lots of people get arrested for possessing them. The only benefit of Schedule 2 or 3 is that physicians can write prescriptions and research would no longer be blocked. But that would probably mean the end of the dispensary system as we know it, since prescriptions are handled by pharmacies. And of course, it would have no effect whatsoever on non-medical users, who would still be getting arrested just like their coke and meth-using counterparts.

  10. Mr_Alex says:

    Just informing everyone here the New Zealand Government has put CBD from Hemp as a Class B substance which means it cannot be imported nor trafficked, manufactured or distributed and it has no health benefits and has severe penalties attached to it:

    “Keith Hatwell
    October 29 at 3:51pm ·
    Hi all out there, as the NZ Government and Ministry of Health have decided that CBD is a B1 Restricted drug (NZ Customs have up till now been happy collecting $50 per gram in fees) and we can no longer import it.
    For Skyla’s sake we have to play the game and jump thru the hoops as set out.
    So we need to find a GP and a specialist Oncologist to sign the Ministry of Health application forms.
    Please forward to all your contacts and ask that anyone willing to help contacts me.

    There are also discussions going on in the New Zealand Government that Hemp itself should be a Class B substance as well

    • Windy says:

      Wouldn’t it be wonderful if EVERY government in the world and every person in those governments just imploded and disappeared? All they do it steal our money and freedom and treat us like dogshit on the soles of their shoes.

  11. Duncan20903 says:


    If you didn’t catch Saturday Night Live last night, Larry David did an absolutely hilarious impersonation of Bernie Sanders.

    SNL polices the web for their intellectual properties so that link probably won’t be available for too long. I’m sure Variety has permission but only for a limited time.

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