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John Walters. He keeps showing up. I feel like I have a long-term dysfunctional relationship with this man. It’s been so many years that this blog has had to deal with him in one way or another. After he left the ONDCP, I hoped that would be it, but he keeps popping up with the same misdirection, fractured logic, and fake moral highground.

Marijuana legalization movement makes no sense by David Murray and John P. Walters.

His material is always a good lesson for analyzing the talking points of prohibitionists.

I’ll just point out one logic dodge. You can have fun with the rest.

First he tries to avoid the clear proof that marijuana is safer than alcohol by saying that it’s improper to compare them.

Or consider the argument that marijuana is “safer to use” than alcohol. That alcohol is dangerous all acknowledge, costing the health of thousands. But the proper argument is that each intoxicant presents its own unique threats. It is not productive medically to “rank” them.

Each is unique. I see.

Now just one paragraph away…

A major dimension of alcohol damage is the sheer prevalence of use, some six times greater than the prohibited marijuana, driving up the “disease burden.” Were regulated marijuana to reach the proportions of use of alcohol, the public health impact would be staggering.

What happened to “each is unique”? Now, suddenly, without any evidence whatsoever, legalization of marijuana will cause a “staggering” public health impact because it’s just like alcohol.

Go home, John. And take Davey with you.

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44 comments to like a bad penny

  • thelbert

    no regulation and no taxation for simple plants and natual medicines is how i spell freedom. anything else is just an excuse for bureauratic welfare for the already wealthy. think global, act local.

  • DdC

    Are pennies still money? I don’t think I’ve ever figured out what that phrase meant, or what John Walters meant. Another inherited wealth spoiled boomer brat. Like the Bushes, Kooch’s and Kennedies. It’s hard to fathom being someone who hates large groups of Americans but gladly takes their taxes, soldiering and votes. Of coarse the same racist superiority over the degenerate races exists. But they feel anyone drugging should be included in the shame, ridicule and despair.

    Bennett’s side kick Walters agenda is almost verbatim from the very fictitious novel they wrote about potent pot driving kids into terrorizing neighborhoods. With Ailiotioeo (father of faith based rehabilitation, minus the state regulations). Predators, waiting to pounce in the wee hours of the morning. No knock. No warrant. Taking peoples personal belongings. Stealing their homes. Locking innocent people in cages after shooting their dogs. Sometimes their spouses. Sometimes their babies. Predator kids on pot.

    Father Faith must have been drunk and blurted out it was not appropriate, and then quit. They’re still coercing Muslims and Jewish kids to convert, and end their rehabilitation with a good grade. To potentially avoid jail, it’s their choice. Addiction is a sin and only geeeeeezus can fix it. Sembler torture Korean style. Only wishes he knew about walter boarding back then. Maybe it will be on Beyond Straight Inc.

    For their efforts Bennett made enough money to lose $8 million into slot machines. Plus the perks of any high roller. $8m, not necessarily from his books on Virtues he sold on the Fortune 700 Club. Tax paid Chief Narko Czar tax bucks with a Reagan budget. “Slotz” was also, Slash, Education Secretary. Where one of his highest priorities wasn’t over crowding, dumbing down or the vulgar habit of random whiz quizzes. It was removing the word “Hemp” from the curriculum. Kids seeing it in books were getting the wrong message. Monsanto, Dupont and Exxon were pissed.

    Walters and Iran Contra Contradictions, with daddy’s bucks and connections. Walters Philanthropy Roundtable. The multi-corporations-corpse. Can;t take time to decide on who is charitable/tax write offs. The corpses give their money to ole Johnney Pee. Wonder what he does with it? Calvina, Carlton and Kevie. Contras Cocaine and lots a Killing. Stayed in the shadows. Raygun fell asleep and Bush doesn’t answer questions.

    Americans probably aren’t the slickest snails in the garden. Prescott Bush laundered money for Hitler. Giving it to Nazi’s killing Americans. So we elected his son and grandson President, with one in the wings. We made Walters a czar to bring his fiction to reality. Negroponte is responsible for 30,000 men, women and children’s death in Central America, so he was made a diplomat or something. Ollie got a TV show. General Secord, the highest commanding officer got a $50 fine. Sembler tortured countless American kids and got to play Ambassador. The Airplane Movie Déjà vu.

    They all steal our rights, pillage our homes and rape our children’s minds with their nonsense zero tolerance DARE to Hate. So we reward them, and they still get the press. While we get headlines of doom and gloom. Potentially, maybe, could, perhaps possibly happen… more research please. More grants thank you. Hey, the cancer these demons are should prohibit them from mooning sick children stopping seizures or pain. There is no logical reason he is still walking freely outside of a small cage. With John P Sousa and Schwag smoke piped in. How crippled is the “free press” to sell bullshit knowing it will do harm? Everything you always needed to know about JPWaldo. Drugs are Bad. Kill the Druggies.

  • kaptinemo

    He’s still desperately hoping for relevance, years after his departure proved he had none. A fancy troll in a fancy suit, but he still has pond scum on his shoes from living under that bridge…and blood on his hands for supporting prohibition, as all prohibs do.

    They just don’t get it. They’re done. They’re over. They’re ‘history’. The only people who honestly, earnestly listen to them anymore have to turn up the volume on their hearing aids, assuming dementia hasn’t claimed them.

    They lost their demographic future through their mendacity. And thus they have lost their social, political and fiscal futures.

    The prohibs are still trying to convince the generations whose heads the prohibs have been holding a gun against that we need them to continue doing so…for our own good, of course.

    That huge voting bloc that favors drug law reform, that crosses nearly all demographics, and has been quite effective in changing Congress’s mind about prohibition lately, believes otherwise.

    Johnny Pee, to the memory hole with thee…and take your specimen bottles with you. You won’t need them. Go organic! If you require a sample now, just open your mouth, I’ll be glad to oblige.

  • Will

    Right from the start, David Murray and John P. Walters, screw things up. Their first paragraph;

    “A recent example of the logical abandon of today’s backers of legal marijuana is the plan to defund the Drug Enforcement Administration’s program to eradicate illegal marijuana (DEA/CESP), an $18 million program that eliminates millions of plants a year and arrests thousands of criminals, many of whom were brought here to labor for Mexican drug cartels controlling the marijuana black market.” [emphasis added]

    Except, by the DEA’s own admission, approximately 98% of the plants eradicated are considered “ditchweed”, feral hemp plants with zero commercial value to all us crazed pot zombies.

    Only in the addled minds of career prohibitioinists would a 98% failure rate somehow constitute success.

    I’m going to second Pete’s suggestion: John (and David), just go away. You’re obsessively embarrassing yourselves.

  • Frank W.

    Reminds me of a Futurama episode where the robot turns human, gets really fat and dies partying. The others dance around him and discover later that he had died earlier: the “Woo!” they kept hearing from him was gas escaping from the folds of his dead flab.

  • I believe that, like the laws that criminalized alcohol back in the 1930s, our current laws against marijuana use are causing more harm to our society than the drug itself. Marijuana is a drug.

    • jean valjean

      Thanks for the information. Guess we all had it backwards here on the couch 🙂

    • DdC

      Marijuana is a racist buzz word. Cannabis is a plant containing eCB’s. Drugs are manufactured in labs. Your general boring assumption is so wrong on many levels, where do I start the dissection? Booze prohibition had nothing to do with drinking, same with cannabis prohibition having anything to do with harmful substances. In the decade or so of booze prohibition farmers ethanol stills were also outlawed.

      Paving the way for Rockefeller’s gasoline and diesel from his crude oil. After repeal farmers got a discount on fuel but cannot distill their own to this day. Henry Ford scrapped his ethanol autos for the same reason. Then the same for Hemp and Rx cannabis in 1937 MTA until it was overturned in 1969 as being Unconstitutional. Leaving the door open for Nixon to lump it all together as a controlled substance. Saving fat pharma, booze and industrial nonrenewable fossil fools industries a fortune.

      Here dyson. Stop the gossip, it only leaves little girls having 300 seizures when cannabis eliminates them. Nature’s plants have no comparison to human inventions like alcohol. Cannabis supplements the human bodies ECS, same as Omega 3 efa’s supplement what the body can’t produce. eCB deficiency is the result of prohibition and abstinence after 12,000 years of use. Never heard of a booze deficiency.

      Al Capone and Watergate

      Annual Causes of Death in the United States
      All Causes 2,596,993
      Alzheimer’s Disease 84,767
      Alcoholic Liver Disease [subset of Chronic Liver Disease] 18,146
      Alcohol-Induced Deaths 29,001
      Homicide 16,121
      Cannabis (Marijuana) 0

      Ld50 of alcohol?
      10 times the amount needed to get a “buzz” if the alcohol is consumed in a 15 minute period.

      LD50 of Cannabis
      The estimated LD-50 (lethal threshold) for marijuana,established in 1988 by the DEA’s appropriate fact-finder, is 1:20,000 or 1:40,000.

      Nicotine poisoning
      LD50 on nicotine is 0.5-10 mg/kg. You get about 1 mg of nicotine from each cigarette smoked. So it’s really unlikely that you could smoke the 50+ cigarettes needed in a short enough time to die from the nicotine.

      google the titles for links…

      LD50 Of 3 Popular Drinks That Can Kill You
      Drinking 6 liters of water can lead to hyponatremia, or the dilution of the blood caused by drinking too much water, which means there is insufficient salt in the bloodstream. Consuming 188 coffees, or 175 shots of expresso can actually put us asleep forever.

      How much coffee/Mountain Dew can you drink before dying?
      The LD50 of caffeine (the amount that has about a 50% death rate in humans) seems to be about 10 grams. That generally comes down to about 50 to 200 cups of coffee, or 100 to 400 cans of Mountain Dew (because a cup of coffee has about twice as much caffeine as a can of Mountain Dew).

      This means the fatal dose of Penguin Mints seems to be about 300 or more mints. At 75 mints per tin, you’d need to down 4 tins to get there, and I bet you’d feel really bad after finishing off just the first tin.

      Toxicity studies on clove cigarette smoke and constituents of clove: determination of the LD50 of eugenol by intratracheal instillation in rats and hamsters.

      Oxycodone overdose: How much amount of oxycodone to OD?

      Percocet overdose: How much amount of Percocet to OD?

      What is the lethal dose of marijuana?
      In summary, enormous doses of Delta 9 THC, All THC and concentrated marihuana extract ingested by mouth were unable to produce death or organ pathology in large mammals but did produce fatalities in smaller rodents due to profound central nervous system depression.

      LD50s for Various Substances
      The dose that has been determined to be lethal to 50% of the test population.

      How Much Caffeine Would It Take To Kill You?
      Caffeine almost always works in concert with other far more nefarious factors.

      How Much Tylenol #3 Does It Take To Kill Oneself?

      Is it possible to OD and die on hydrocodone?

      E-Cigarette Overdose: How Much Liquid Nicotine Would It Take To Kill You?
      “A Lot!” and “Actually, Not That Much.” Smoking a single refill of strong 72 milligram juice won’t kill you, as CDC information seems to suggest. Most people vape much lower concentrations, anyway. But drinking a whole bottle of that juice could easily turn deadly.

      How much nicotine kills a human?
      Tracing back the generally accepted lethal dose to dubious self-experiments in the nineteenth century LD50 of 0.8 mg/kg would implicate that the toxicity of nicotine is similar to or even higher than that of cyanide, fatal nicotine intoxications are relatively rare

      Is it possible to overdose on nicotine through smoking too many cigarettes?
      No, it is not possible to overdose on nicotine through smoking too many cigarettes. Even if you were to chain-smoke like crazy, your body would reach a point where it started clearing out the nicotine at the same rate you were taking it in.

      Smoking marijuana is 114 times safer than drinking alcohol – study

      HHS Author Manuscripts
      THE EFFECT OF CANNABIS COMPARED WITH ALCOHOL ON DRIVING

      Detrimental effects of cannabis use vary in a dose-related fashion, and are more pronounced with highly automatic driving functions than with more complex tasks that require conscious control, whereas with alcohol produces an opposite pattern of impairment. Because of both this and an increased awareness that they are impaired, marijuana smokers tend to compensate effectively while driving by utilizing a variety of behavioral strategies.

  • Francis

    A major dimension of alcohol damage is the sheer prevalence of use, some six times greater than the prohibited marijuana, driving up the “disease burden.” Were regulated marijuana to reach the proportions of use of alcohol, the public health impact would be staggering.

    My God, can you even imagine? Well, no, probably not because it’s too staggering. But maybe this little thought exercise will help. Look at the 3.5 billion people to the left of you. Now look at the 3.5 billion to your right. If marijuana use were to increase six-fold (obviously there’s no reason to think legalization would have anywhere close to that effect, but this is a thought experiment so stay with me), it is almost a statistical certainty that within 10 years, zero of those people would be dead from a marijuana overdose. #harmless?

    • Duncan20903

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      But what of the poor prohibitionists who get an apoplexy and die, or suffer chronic brain lock because it’s outside the limits of their tiny imaginations? Did you ever think of that part? Huh? Well didja? 🙂

  • Servetus

    seeking to legitimize what they hope will become a billion-dollar business in addictive toxins – repeat customers guaranteed.

    First of all, it’s going to be a multi-billion-dollar business in non-addictive cannabinoids and terpenoids. None of these chemicals appear toxic to anything but cancer cells. And yes, repeat customers are guaranteed by what appears likely to evolve into an entirely new branch of modern medicine. Think of it. We now have the chemical means to tune the body’s CB receptor system as if it were a violin.

    As a member of the infamous Opus Dei, Walters’ babbling about what he understands only through abstractions and religious moral dogma is a mouse-squeak from the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Chaos Theory says it has relevance, but will we ever see any relevence? John P. Walters stands within that great void once known as drug enforcement credibility. It’s just not there anymore. And in a way, neither is he.

    • DdC

      Disease = profit in treating, not preventing or curing.
      Fat Pharma treats disease. Cannabis prevents and cures.
      What is the last disease Fat Pharma cured?

      Polio, and it pissed off the cattlemen and steel industry losing big bucks making leg braces.

      I don’t even know how to categorize such despicable acts.

      Sure Hitler killed millions, including Americans. But even he didn’t profit keeping people sick. The prohibitionists make Nazi’s look like Boy Scouts.

      • DdC

        Michael Pollan: “Cannabis, The Importance of Forgetting
        Now to pot, to marijuana, to this particular co-evolutionary relationship. Why did this plant make THC in the first place, THC being the main psychoactive ingredient? It certainly wasn’t so people could get high. Marijuana did not produce THC so we could change our consciousness.

        It probably produces chemicals for its own purposes, and these are still unknown. There are theories. One is that THC helps protect the plant against insects. Another theory is that it helps protect against ultraviolet radiation. You find more THC as you go up higher in elevation and you have more UV rays. Another is that it’s an aid to help the plant defend itself against predators. And if that’s true, it’s kind of a brilliant defense.

        You know, when you’re playing around with the arms race between plants and their predators, outright poison is sometimes not the best way to go. When you put out a powerful poison, you select the resistance, and very soon, you’ve developed it, and the poison becomes ineffective, as we find with pesticides (and Antibiotics) all the time. But think how much more clever it would be to have a defense against predators that makes them forget where they saw you last time?

        “Why would we evolve a chemical that would make us forget, that would affect our short-term memory?” That seems maladaptive. His answer was one of the great “a-ha!” moments I had when I was working on this book.

        He said, “Well, do you really want to remember all the faces you saw in the subway this morning, all the faces in the supermarket?” And I realized at that moment, well, of course, forgetting is not a defect of a mental operation, although it can certainly be that; forgetting is a mental operation. It’s almost as important as remembering.

        He believes that there is another see-saw there. There is a chemical that helps us lock in memory, and anandamide works on the other side to make us get rid of memory. This also relates to memory loss with regard to trauma. We need cannabinoids to forget horrible things that have happened.

        Ganja 4 PTSD & Depression
        ☮ Maine PTSD Sufferers Qualify for Medical Marijuana
        ☮ Republican State Senator Kimberly Yee blocks PTSD study
        ☮ Why are Soldiers Dying in Their Sleep?
        ☮ Veterans for Medical Marijuana Access
        ☮ Military Veterans Say Pot Eases PTSD
        ☮ Veterans Form Pro-Legal Marijuana Group
        ☮ VA prescribes/opposes addictive drugs for PTSD
        ☮ Why U.S. Vets Are Fighting for Medical Marijuana
        ☮ Cannabis, the Importance of Forgetting
        ☮ Many Veterans are the Enemy in the D.E.A.th War

  • thelbert

    if you have time on your hands here’s a blast from the past: http://tinyurl.com/nfl8emq

  • Duncan20903

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    What a coinkydink! It wasn’t even an hour ago when I saw a picture of Mr. Walters that came up in a search of the Google!! linky

    Well I can’t argue that the photo didn’t capture his good side.

  • joe minella

    John Walters has blood on his hands, a lot of blood. In a just world, he would not exist.

  • Duncan20903

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    Well are you ready? Brace yourself, I’ve just seen some synthetic reefer madness! Let’s put this one in the “nobody can polish a turd like a prohibitionist” category:

    Policing Synthetic Marijuana on LA’s Skid Row

    /snip/
    Lining the littered sidewalk near the corner of San Pedro and 6th Street in downtown LA’s Skid Row, men sit on folding chairs and milk crates as they roll joint after joint of what looks like really bad pot. They each serve as a solitary assembly line, holding cardboard box tops on their lap that contain a stack of rolling papers and mountainous piles of dry, greenish brown leaves that best resemble your grandma’s potpourri.

    This substance is spice, the laboratory-made and insanity-inducing synthetic cannabinoid that functions more like a mind-bending mash-up of PCP, LSD and pot than your run-of-the mill weed.
    /snip/

    “I’ve seen people hit it [spice,] run around, lose their minds, talk about how people are after them, start humping the ground. I’ve seen it all,” said [former Skid Row resident Diann] Lakey.

    Skid Row residents I spoke to told me they had seen users of the drug run into traffic, get hit by cars and continue on their way unphased. Another man I was told about climbed into a tree for two days and wouldn’t come down.
    /snip/

    LAPD Officer Deon Joseph…[m]ore than 250 pounds of pure muscle, Joseph’s uniform clings to his biceps as if it’s on the verge of splitting wide open.

    He’s be the last person you’d expect to struggle taking someone into custody, but spice makes people freakishly strong, and users are more inclined to confront police, according to Joseph.

    “People are under the assumption that we don’t know how to deal with mental illness down here in Central [Division]. That’s not true, but when mental illness hits spice, not even the best-trained mental health clinician could be standing with us and would be able to stop it,” Joseph said.
    /snip/

    For cryin’ out loud it’s the same line of polemical bull chit that was written about PCP in the 1970s, crack cocaine in the 1980s, and methamphetamine in the 2000s. Of course it’s nothing new. I’m certain that most of the regulars here will recall this New York Times article published on February 8, 1914:

    NEGRO COCAINE “FIENDS” NEW SOUTHERN MENACE

    /snip/
    A recent experience of Chief of Police Byerly of Asheville, N.C., illustrates this particular phase of cocainism. The Chief was informed that a hitherto inoffensive negro, with whom he was well acquainted, was “running amuck” in a cocaine frenzy, had attempted to stab a storekeeper, and was at the moment engaged in “beating up” various members of his own household. Being fully aware of the respect that the negro has for brass buttons, (and, incidentally, having a record for courage,) the officer went single-handed to the negro’s house for the purpose of arresting him.

    But when he arrived there the negro had completed the beatings and left the place. A few moments later, however, the man returned, and entered the room where the Chief was waiting for him, concealed behind a door. When the unsuspecting negro reached the middle of the room, the chief closed the door to prevent his escape and informed him quietly that he was under arrest, and asked him to come to the station. In reply the crazed negro drew a long knife, grappled with the officer, and slashed him viciously across the shoulder.

    Knowing that he must kill this man or be killed himself, the Chief drew his revolver, placed the muzzle over the negro’s heart, and fired-“Intending to kill him right quick,” as the officer tells it but the shot did not even stagger the man. And a second shot that pierced the arm and entered the chest had as little effect in stopping his charge or checking his attack.

    Meanwhile, the chief, out of the corner of his eye, saw infuriated negroes rushing toward the cabin from all directions. He had only three cartridges remaining in his gun, and he might need these in a minute to stop the mob. So he saved his ammunition and “finished the man with his club.”

    Every time I read hysterical rhetoric about synthetic “cannabis” I feel like we’ve dodged a bullet. It still hasn’t ceased to amaze me that the idiot prohibitionists haven’t tried to use it as an indictment of the real thing (knock wood).

    Now the first thought to come into your mind may well be “Hey, don’t give them any ideas! They’re idiots you know.” Quite frankly I’ve never observed an idiot prohibitionist that needed any assistance in being an idiot. Still, for that very reason I’ve avoided commenting on this subject since the prohibitionists first became aware of synthetic “cannabis” circa 2010. After half a decade I suppose that if they were going to use that false comparison that they would have already done it.

    • DdC

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  • Will

    More bad pennies;

    Pot Bills Stalled Despite Increased Support

    http://tinyurl.com/oz7zsnb

    There are only a few more work days until August recess, so any consideration in the Senate Judiciary Committee would be deferred until at least September. But when pressed on whether the bill was a priority, Chairman Charles E. Grassley, R-Iowa, said, “I’m going to wait until I talk to other Republican members.”

    And;

    But just like the medical marijuana bill, the banking bill is stuck in committee. Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee Chairman Richard C. Shelby, R-Ala., told CQ Roll Call last week he did not expect this bill to be a post-recess priority for the committee.

    • Frank W.

      I know we’ll be reading the same story in 20 years, and that includes Grassley’s name. He’s one the Immortals, like Cheney.

  • Mr_Alex

    I did more digging on Julie Schauer who runs Parents Opposed to Pot, did anyone know she was a top donor to the proposition against Proposition 19 in California:

    http://maplight.org/content/california-prop-19-nov-2010

  • NorCalNative

    What Walter’s-style propaganda produces in the hospital setting.

    The phlebotomist taking my dad’s blood sugar in the ER glanced at what I had written on the white board in the room. I wrote “Endocannabinoid System” and underneath that with an arrow pointing to the ECS I wrote Mechoulam’s five-point summation of the ECS: Eat, Sleep, Relax, Forget, Protect.

    I asked her what she thought of it, and the look on her face soured as she spat out some version of the word cannabinoid with which I’m unfamiliar. Then it was blah, blah blah and then me: How many fatalities?

    Crickets. Then it was blah, blah blah and then me: Permanent or temporary psychosis?

    Crickets. Then it was blah, blah, genetics and then me: Do you really think patients are too stupid to titrate their own doses? Really, seriously?

    There was more fun, and I loved the look on her face when I told her I’d pay the $400 for 12 continuing medical education units (CME) on the endocannabinoid system.

    I got crickets from the ER doc as well.

    Maybe my dictionary is broken, but when I look up the terms “shit-eating-grin,” and “punch-me-face,” Johnny P.’s picture is staring right back at me.

    Oh yeah, just so MMYV doesn’t piss their pants. When I was a kid growing up we had these Bozo-the-Clown” punching toys. You’d punch Bozo in the face and his air-filled plastic body would come right back into a sweet position. I punch Bozo while thinking of Johnny. So Fuck-off TROLLS, no prohibitionists were harmed in this rant.

    • Frank W.

      It doesn’t help when the hospital staff are recruited from the Fox News Valley, as I learned the hard way a few years ago. But hospitals are terrorized by the DEA and it seeps into the climate like a cabbage fart.

    • darkcycle

      Was the term she used “Nabiximols”? If so that is a relatively new (last couple of years) classification of drugs designated to include THC (marinol, Nabilone) as well as other proposed drugs derived from cannabinoids. It was coined just for GW pharma,so it had a classification under which to include their products. If she used it to refer specifically to medicalized formulations made from the cannabis plant, she was using it correctly. If she was using it interchangeably with the word cannabiniod, she was using it incorrectly.
      But it’s a term I have run up against. It is medicines derived from cannabinoids, or artificial formulations of natural cannabinoids, like Marinol.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols

      • NorCalNative

        Nah, my medically-educated friend. I actually would have recognized Nabiximol. She was just brain-farting trying to pronounce endocannabinoid on the fly.

        I’m pretty sure cannabinoid poly-therapy has never been on her medical radar at any level or medication type.

        If you read this maybe you can help me. Duncan had a comment recently that included the term “running amuck.” I used to have a 20-pound psychiatry text book that had a photo of an Indonesian? Islander holding an “amuck catcher.” It was a long-handled pole with two prongs made-to-fit around a human neck with the intent of “catching” someone running amuck.

        Ever seen a picture of one? I have a weird nostalgia for seeing that image again.

        • DdC

          I’d bet this would sound crazy scary to the masses of censored citizens. Not even a surprise to most reformers. I know from dealing with doctors and nurses, still teaching them about Hemp Oil deterring antibiotics. Bringing Cannabis, even CBD info to GP’s because they had not heard of it outside of CNN and Sanjay. Still not enough to risk actually using it. They might nod a recommendation if a patient they know personally is getting results. Not a personal recommendation though. They have no reason to be informed. Then again, the AMA doesn’t believe nutrition has anything to do with health. Pill pushers, sawbones and quacks oh my!

          Only 13% of the medical schools surveyed mention the endocannabinoid science to our future doctors. The results of the study are predictable, so no one should be surprised! Not one of the medical schools surveyed had a department of endocannabinoid science or an ECS director. None of them taught the endocannabinoid science as an organized course.

        • Duncan20903

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          Have you ever seen a picture of a tobacco smoke enema device? They used them to cure people who had drowned. Yep, just blow some smoke up his ass and he’ll be good as new. I’ll bet there was a conspiracy between funeral directors and cemetery owners to suppress this device which was needed to save peoples’ lives. If you’ve ever wondered why it is that nowadays people who have drowned stay drowned you can thank the greed of the capitalistic 1%!

  • Servetus

    NEW RESEARCH exonerates marijuana consumption by teens.

    Why would an American research team report good news about marijuana consumption by teens? Maybe because the research was funded by the AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION, and not the NIDA.

    From the News Release Title: “Teen marijuana use not linked to later depression, lung cancer, other health problems, study finds: Study contradicts some prior marijuana research.”

    August 4, 2015 — “What we found was a little surprising,” said lead researcher Jordan Bechtold, PhD, a psychology research fellow at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. “There were no differences in any of the mental or physical health outcomes that we measured regardless of the amount or frequency of marijuana used during adolescence.”

    Marijuana use has undergone intense scrutiny as several states and the District of Columbia have legalized the drug, prompting the researchers to examine whether teen marijuana use has long-term health consequences. Based on some prior studies, they expected to find a link between teen marijuana use and the later development of psychotic symptoms (delusions, hallucinations, etc.), cancer, asthma or respiratory problems, but they found none. The study also found no link between teen marijuana use and lifetime depression, anxiety, allergies, headaches or high blood pressure. This study is one of just a few studies on the long-term health effects of teen marijuana use that have tracked hundreds of participants for more than two decades of their lives, Bechtold said.

    Article: “Chronic Adolescent Marijuana Use as a Risk Factor for Physical and Mental Health Problems in Young Adult Men;” Jordan Bechtold, PhD, and Dustin Pardini, PhD University of Pittsburgh Medical Center; Theresa Simpson, MA, and Helene R. White, PhD; Rutgers University; Psychology of Addictive Behaviors; published online Aug. 3, 2015.

    News Release Here

    Publication Here

    • DdC

      Maybe this is too simple. I’ve never seen a huge dumpster for wayward teens who smoked pot They grow into adults. 60 million or so in the 70’s. No problem mon. The only teens harmed by cannabis are imaginary future hobgoblin teens out of the book of NIDA. Is this the straw that broke the prohibitches backbone? Oh I forgot, they don’t have one.

  • DdC

    Ths is all that needs to be said about Cannabis Prohibition. If there are any left out there with doubt. Take a very sharp stick and poke your eyes out. You are beyond the ability to see and they are only causing confusion.

    Research: THC Helps Liver Transplants

    The latest research on THC shows that even extremely low doses of THC can help mouse livers, and potentially human livers, overcome ischemia-reperfusion injury, a common cause of liver transplant failure.

    Denied a Liver Transplant for Using Medical Marijuana, and Dying for It —
    The Heartlessness of Prohibition

    The tragic fate of Norman B. Smith is all you need to know about to see how senseless it is to make consumption of marijuana a crime.

    After being diagnosed with liver cancer in 2009, Norman B. Smith applied to the liver transplant list at Cedar-Sinai hospital. While waiting for a transplant, Mr. Smith underwent chemotherapy in an attempt to destroy the cancer eating away at his liver. This caused severe side-effects, common to many cancer patients. In an attempt to curb the pain, and on the recommendation of his oncologist, Mr. Smith began using medical marijuana.

    After testing positive for THC (one of the active chemicals in marijuana), Mr. Smith was taken off the transplant list and denied a life saving procedure. Mr. Smith died because of this. It did not matter to the hospital that Mr. Smith’s marijuana use was non-recreational, and was approved by his oncologist as a way to treat his chemotherapy side effects.

    Man Dies After Hospital Denies Transplant Over Weed Its Doctor Prescribed!

    To add to this man’s terrible misfortune, sources point out that medical marijuana use is completely legal in California and studies have shown it poses no medical risk to liver transplantation.

    California Legislator Introduces Bill to End Organ Transplant Denials for Medical Marijuana Patients

  • DdC

    Marijuana Legalization: Why The Drug Is Still Stigmatized [Report]
    But it seems like congress, state officials, and everyone in between can’t seem to get past the stigma that comes with smoking marijuana. The millions of Americans who smoke pot aren’t criminals or bad folks. Some use it recreationally and responsibly, while others use it to treat health conditions such as cancer or anxiety.

  • Mr_Alex

    I have no doubt Julie Schauer of Parents Opposed to Pot is heavily funded by Project SAM and Mel and Betty Sembler, it is now obvious that she has admitted to knowing the Semblers along with Christine Tatum and Christian Thurstone, I now question if the amount she made to oppose Proposition 19 in California in 2010 was in fact Sembler money with some of it from Project SAM, Julie Schauer, guess what GAME OVER, your connection to Project SAM and Straight Inc aka Drug Free America Foundation is now getting obvious, Julie would you like to comment on the 50,000+ abused at Straight Inc, your silence on Cannabis users being tortured at Rehab is very telling that your inspiration is Mel and Betty Sembler, my suspicions about your group looking up to Mel and Betty Sembler is beginning to come true:

    https://www.facebook.com/poppotorg?fref=ts

  • DdC

    Black Man in Jasper, Texas
    Found With Cut Throat And Missing Ear –
    Ruled ‘Accidental Overdose`

    Southern man
    better keep your head
    Don’t forget
    what your good book said

    The Racist Ganjawar

    Faithful follower of Brother John Birch
    And they belong to the Antioch Baptist Church.

    If this isn’t nipped in the bud and corruption is malignant through out the town. When the civil war ended 3000 blacks were lynched for insolence. Most of the instigators got off by jury nullification. Souring a useful tool against court oppression. As with bogus cannabis laws. A reminder that the tool is only as good or bad as those who use it. If there is a victim – bad. If the victim is on trial – good.

    Jury Nullification
    Only as good as the person it’s used for.