Minutes of fame

Well this appeared out of nowhere on Facebook this morning – it’s one of my quotes from Guitherisms – haven’t thought about it in years (the picture was from New Orleans in 2008).


It has taken off virally today, with over 2,500 shares last I checked. The image also refers to this article at the Free Thought Project regarding the disturbing trend of wrong-address raids, etc.

The reaction seems to be almost universal among online commenters that this is something we must no longer tolerate, which is good news. There is powerful sentiment out there unhappy with the militarization of police and the highly invasive drug war.

There are also some scary commenters with limited comprehension, an unfortunately significant number of whom appear to think that I’m a cop endorsing killing mothers, children and pets, rather than someone pointing out the atrocities; and so some have said some rather nasty things about me and encouraged people to do bad things to me. Please don’t.

To all those who may be visiting DrugWarRant.com for the first time because of the image, welcome!

Have a seat on Pete’s couch and join in the conversations (and maybe we can help channel your anger into some activism to change bad laws).

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38 Responses to Minutes of fame

  1. mjverite says:

    Love it. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the idea of Sabet at a philosophy conference. Likely they were holding court, and he was the jester.

  2. Common Science says:

    Saw my first memed Guitherism (this one) thanks to Darkcycle on FaceBook this morn. Pete, do you have any jolly photos of yourself taking in the sites in Manhattan? Might as well get visual credit for the full set.

    If you are new here, check out the other sharp Guitherisms under his couch at the top left side. (If you find any loose Canadian change there, it’s probably mine).

  3. darkcycle says:

    Well, Pete, I was one of those shares, but not one of the commenters to whom you are referring.
    One of the things that comes with fame is you become known to people with limited comprehension skills, as well as normal, reasoning folk.
    I still think you’re viral. Maybe you should see someone about that… 😉

  4. claygooding says:

    There are no statistics available I know of but when a MMJ grower in TX shoots a LE and gets no billed by a grand jury for it I would almost bet the no-knock raids in TX have reduced in the last two months,,a lot of that has to do with the TX constitution,,it gives the right to any citizen to resist an illegal arrest,,,having a cop shot when doing a no knock reminds law enforcement of that fact.
    I also look for the state’s legislature to try and change that constitutional law in the next session.

  5. Scott says:

    To prevent further confusion (and ultimately another tragedy in the name of misunderstanding), the image creator should add an arrow from your name to your presence in the photo fwiw.

    • Pete says:

      Not sure that would have done it. Some of them seemed to think that the picture was of some smug cop (even referring to his folded arms) talking about killing mothers, children, and dogs as the thing to do.

      Had a nice chat with one of them and showed him the Drug War Victims page, and he seemed to get the idea then.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        How in the world do you make those letters float in front of your chest like that? It looks much more practical than having 412 different t-shirts to send that day’s preferred message.

  6. Tim says:

    Way to go Pete!

    Just listening to this right now from yesterday.


    Pam McColl (@twas4kids), from the SAM Canada branch plant operation (or more accurately, the b-team) is on hour 1, 19:35. She kept whining on Twitter later that the show host was “biased.” (She also went ape on Jodie Emery on TV before too. That was fun to listen to.)

    • B. Snow says:

      What’s worse is the next FOOL that’s interviewed – (who calls in) – spouting Marky-Marky’s ” we don’t need another evil like alcohol & tobacco” Bovine-Excrement (which was long quickly appropriated by Pat/Kev {*Note: long ago*} as their last remotely plausibly argument), And damned if Canadians aren’t polite to a fault – the frak’in Radio Host agreed with him!

      And said small amounts for personal use are okay & maybe 1-2 plants in a closet… Which is also Bullshit IMO, But more important in the conversation to me is the small matter of:

      (Seriously) – Where the fuck do these people think that presumably “other people” are supposed to procure the “small amounts” that they propose as being OKAY to have a “Not-Criminal” status = but, simultaneously “Not-Legal”??

      (Media feel free to insert crude “they-should-pull-it-outta-their-asses” joke right about here… You know some would do exactly that. “Gotta have a joke in the story or people might take it seriously – OH NOES!”)

      Then seriously after the chuckling – to everyone arguing that mess – Answer me the question seriously & anything like Marky’s -goto- “But, We GOTTA Remember = To Make It Really Expensive. So, People Can’t Buy and/or Smoke “TOO MUCH”!

      Because that’s Bullshit as well and As such – it also doesn’t count as a plausible argument!

  7. That should be on a T-Shirt – the back of the shirt should have the crosshairs on an entire family, with a picture of a toilet full of unflushed drugs with a dollar value next to it…of course, it begs the question as to why we always hear about the dollar value of said confiscated drugs – aren’t they now “off the market”?

    • claygooding says:

      I wish some of these peckerheads would try to flush a quarter pound of dried vegetation down one of these low volume flush three times for a turd commodes.

      • thelbert says:

        that’s why i try to get my volcano involved when i’m destroying evidence. it might be slow, but it does the job.

        • Dave in Florida says:

          My Volcano leaves the plant material in the same shape is was, just a little dehydrated, but it looks the same! Just all the good stuff is in the bag!

        • Dano says:

          S&B Volcano is the best way to convert marijuana back to plain old hemp. All the “waste” goes into the bag and then you can “dispose” of the vapor as you wish. LOL

  8. Duncan20903 says:


    I think that I’ve heard this one before but can’t quite put my finger on it. Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

    Letter: Prohibition on marijuana a failed inquisition
    May 26, 2014

    Part of the reason our federal government continues to treat marijuana like Kryptonite is the hiring criteria for federal jobs. Ignorance is a prerequisite for employment.

    The emphasis on “drug-free” backgrounds ensures that those least knowledgeable about the effects and use of illegal drugs are charged with enforcing federal laws against them. Anyone who has actually smoked marijuana knows the plant is not nearly as dangerous (or exciting) as federal propaganda suggests.

    ROBERT SHARPE, Washington, D.C.

    Common Sense for Drug Policy

  9. Hoplophobophobia says:

    Guns Guns Guns Shoot em in the Air Shoot em at the ground BANG BANG BANG So what if they’re Scary its what Guns Do! Pinng Pwang Pfooom Eureka Happy Day Yippee! 50 More!

  10. Servetus says:

    Governor Rick Scott of Florida doesn’t know when to quit when it comes to drug testing:

    MIAMI, FL – May 27 – A public records investigation by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Florida has found that the state of Florida has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys’ fees and legal expenses pushing for mandatory suspicionless urinalysis policies championed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, even after federal courts found the policies unconstitutional. [Emphasis Added].

    Records obtained by the ACLU show nearly $400,000 of Florida citizens’ tax money has already been blown propping up Governor Scott’s totalitarian dream of drug testing Florida’s state employees, with more money yet to be squandered on worthless legal appeals. Reality-based thinking is definitely not on the governor’s agenda.

    • Jean Valjean says:

      I can’t understand why he is not being impeached for fraud. He’s spending the taxpayer’s dollar on policies which directly benefit his own lab-work businesses (until he transferred it to his wife’s name, of course). Why are the people of Florida putting up with this outrageous conflict of interest?
      It’s not as if he doesn’t already have form for ripping of the public over medical services, see Hospital Corporation of America.

  11. Important coming up this week:
    Thur: House Voting on Bipartisan Amendment to Stop Federal Medical Marijuana Raids

    Congress Can Stop Federal Medical Marijuana Raids
    Grover Norquist and Ethan Nadelmann teamed up on this article.

    • Tony Aroma says:

      Even if this passes, I’m not sure it would stop the DEA. Congress has already legalized hemp, but that didn’t stop the DEA from seizing imported hemp seeds. And, contrary to what everybody’s reporting, it was the DEA that won that battle, not the state of Kentucky or Congress. The DEA has set a precedent with Kentucky that regardless of the legal status of hemp, you still need a DEA permit to import or grow it. I have a feeling that if this legislation passes, the DEA will find a way around it, or ignore it.

      • B. Snow says:

        They just might change their minds’ when they realize that – “The Public” is sneaking up behind them with a “consensus opinion” that’s quite different than theirs’, AND that they’re “carrying” alright… But, that *this time* = its Torches & Pitchforks!

        Maybe not, ‘Just Saying’…

      • They find a way around a lot of things. The DEA is the Obama Administration’s and this country’s albatross*

        * http://tinyurl.com/koyzzfz

        • claygooding says:

          The DEA was created by an Executive Order by Nixon,,that means Obama can end it the same way.
          If it wasn’t for the fear of book depositories he probably would,,,that couls be his last act before leaving office,,shred the DEA and make Congress override his EO.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          I think that calling it an albatross is extreme case of understatement. IMO calling it a “white elephant” would be much more accurate. I’ve never known a single person that had an albatross hanging from his neck. But I have heard that when the King of Siam didn’t like someone but for some political reason or another couldn’t take any overt action to express his dislike would give that person an albino elephant. Now albino elephants were sacred in that culture so the gift elephant couldn’t be put to work. Neither could the recipient get rid of it because that would insult the king. The result was that the white elephant’s care and feeding would cost the recipient a lot of money but there was no way to escape that cost.

          In general use a“white elephant” usually refers to an item that’s not useful (decorative) but may be expensive and odd.

          Doesn’t that describe the DEA and the war on (some) drugs perfectly?

      • kaptinemo says:

        The crazier the DEA acts, the more it gets noticed…and not in a good way. And the DEA has pissed off a major Administration opponent with their antics. All this, during an election year. Which provides many political players with a ready-made wedge issue.

        This was amongst the latest of some singularly stupid moves made by Leonhart. Mouthing off and spitting in her boss’s face earlier this year didn’t help.

        The more lax the leash is, the deeper it cuts into the neck when it’s pulled up hard. Leonhart’s been barking a lot, lately. She’s been ignoring the soft, almost imperceptible little tugs she’s been getting from this Administration, until recently.

        The problem is, her barking is indistinguishable from the noises made by mad dogs. The question is if the Dems can afford to alienate a huge chunk of the cannabis-savvy electorate by having Obama keep her on, mad-dog foaming and all…or have her ‘put down’ politically.

    • primus says:

      Politics does, indeed make for strange bedfellows. Uber-conservative Norquist with Uber-liberal Nadelman. Wow.

  12. primus says:

    Let’s see; If we allow people to obtain a substance which lowers their aggression levels, which makes them happy and mellow (pot), and they substitute that for a substance which increases their aggressive tendencies and is known to lead to violence, especially domestic, as well as murder (alcohol), wouldn’t you expect that murder-and violence-rates would decline? Seeing as alcohol is also strongly associated with depression and suicide, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to learn that rates of suicide decreased at the same time. Next thing the morticians will be lobbying against us.

  13. Nick says:

    This is the first I’ve seen of that particular Guitherism, but I’ve always found a single one to have more wisdom than you could get going to DEA and SAM conferences for life. I hope that picture ends up all over the web, I’ve personally found a lot of people who just don’t know about the crimes committed against us and any little bit of info they can get will do wonders.

  14. Matthew Meyer says:

    Folded-arms Pete as smug cop just shows how powerful projection is.

  15. thelbert says:

    here is a piece about thomas paine that might help with our struggle to rid the nation of the stupidity of prohibitches: http://tinyurl.com/lt92tpv

  16. Crut says:

    Once again Diane Wattles-Goldstein hits the nail on the head.

    Kevin keeps building his house of cards again and again. Will he ever learn? Does he even know that he’s building his house on train tracks that are getting busier every day?

  17. thelbert says:

    hemp growing in spain: http://tinyurl.com/mh8k88v seems that even rich people in kentucky aren’t as free as a poor man in spain.

  18. marty says:

    Here your slogan… If its small enough to flush down the toilet it’s not big enough to be killing people over.

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