Stupid Politicians

Louisiana committee OK’s doubling heroin mandatory minimums

“Make it severe. Make people understand, ‘You do heroin, you’re going to do time.'” — Louisiana Sheriff Association Executive Director Michael Ranatza

“I’ve got to support this bill and the reason I’ve got to support it is I think it’s a preventative measure.” — state Rep. Terry Landry, D-New Iberia

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

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95 Responses to Stupid Politicians

  1. Howard says:

    Good grief. Nothing like slamming the car in reverse and stomping on the gas pedal.

    • Jose says:

      So true. I would like to add to your excellent analogy… Nothing like tearing the rear view mirrors off, slamming the car in reverse and stomping on the gas pedal.

      I spent a few days in New Iberia years ago. It really is like a different planet so Rep. Terry Landry is no surprise. The population down there has been really dumbed down by pathetic education and epic poverty. I pity them because many just don’t “know no betta”.

  2. Jean Valjean says:

    The motive for this piece of horse-trading by Louisiana sheriffs can be summed up in three words: for profit prisons. Rural sheriffs have become prison entrepreneurs.

  3. darkcycle says:

    Stupid. As my children grow, that is one of the States I will warn them to avoid.

    • drwoo says:

      I live here, can’t wait to get out. I’m calling my senators and reps all 143 of them about another bill tomorrow and monday. I’ll bring this up as well.

  4. Russell Olausen says:

    Louisiana, my favourite state and from what I understand from talking to some of the guys on the banks of the mighty Mississippi, a place with a jail culture. Sorting out heroin is past my pay grade but if you go down there bring ransom money, after all you are most of the way in anyway.

  5. claygooding says:

    Loseranna is not on my map,,I ordered it from the same printer that did Kerli’s dictionary.
    Governor up in IA told MMJ patients to buy off the streets,,,isn’t it against the law to tell citizens to break the law?
    Entrapment,,the gov told me too would be the first words out of my mouth.

  6. B. Snow says:

    FFS! There is just So Much Stupid There – IDK, even know where to begin, peeling back the layers of dumb & idiocy.
    Implied, yet statistically insignificant – “statistics” (aka 5 deaths in 2012 & rising to 35 deaths in 2013).

    Stupid begetting stupid (They told doctors they can only prescribe “X” amount of opiates – or just that they’re prescribing “too much” like Feds are qualified to do that… according to some (they don’t even know cannabis is safer than heroin?)

    So some addicts (+ many patients that flunk a wiz-quiz or admit prior illicit drug use or regular alcohol use.)

    Some end up doing the inevitable given the mostly arbitrary – “cracking down on prescription opiates” – “drugs that are causing deaths”, and instead of moving to remedy the problem that they know the cause of… They do the opposite (???)

    “Since heroin is now easier to obtain, and cheaper, than drugs like oxycontin and oxycodone, addicts are turning to the illegal drug instead.

    To this effect, State Police Superintendent Mike Edmonson said the purity of heroin has increased from 15 to 31.1 percent in recent years. Prescription drug addicts who have turned to heroin are unaware of the heightened purity levels, and therefore are more susceptible to overdose.”

    And this SHOULD BE as simple as reading the above – (or just knowing it, if its your field) = It’s your average – country idiot car mechanic solve-able, “Well, dere’s your problem right dere…”

    “BUT – NOPE… the ‘rate of prescription drug abuse’ was rising really high, a couple dozen more people died per year, & that made some people “have a sad”.

    SO, (in a classic Len Bias reactionary manner), Instead of reversing the change that caused the spike in heroin use & even more overdoses due to unknown purity.

    Which, I’m willing to bet anything was a much smaller number of deaths – BEFORE they cracked down on doctors prescribing prescription opiates, and treating all patients as potential junkies, and making the pills/meds ‘tamper-resistant’ (which equals WAY more expensive at the pharmacy even with good insurance), meaning some poor folks are likely to sell a few of = if that’s the only way they can get pay to get the scrip filled.

    The only thing that REALLY changed – was that it was young affluent (white) ‘suburban kids’ that were in a handful of instances turning into junkies and/or dying.

    And the media (& the scolds) put it all over on TV = They all but “D.A.R.E.’ed” people not to copycat & try abusing the meds in similar fashion… (That show “House” & “Nurse Jackie” didn’t fucking help, Making the general public to believe that anyone taking these meds were likely to be abusing them even when they weren’t!

    And the “60 Minutes”-style segments that were crying out & warning the world about the “New Epidemic” – (They were in effect the ones popularizing the practice of abusing Oxycontin.) Seems like someone did that same sorta thing before?? Oh, right = yeah, I remember – that was “Crack”.)

    “HEY everybody – You kids heads-up.. Now don’t you go and scrounge for these pills that look like this & melt/dilute them down in water & shoot them up = Because it’s real easy, really pure, really addictive – and doing this could easily kill you, Okay?”

    (For God’s Sake = Its almost as dangerous as Marijuana) “Good, thing we’ve gotten that talk taken care of & cleared up! Now run along, go out and have fun with your friends… Be careful” /sarcasm

    AND the “Shiny Crown of Duh” = Goes to the person who thinks they should make it so that, “Heroin users, who aren’t currently subject to mandatory minimum sentences, found guilty of heroin possession would be jailed for at least two years.”

    “Make it severe. Make people understand, ‘You do heroin, you’re going to do time.'” — Louisiana Sheriff Association Executive Director Michael Ranatza”

  7. claygooding says:

    This is reqlly going to bum SAM & fellow prohibitches out:

    Teens who smoke marijuana do better in school than cigarette smokers, study shows

    Students who smoke marijuana do better in school than their cigarette-smoking classmates, according to a new study.

    Canadian researchers surveyed nearly 39,000 Ontario students in grades 7, 9, and 11 between 1981 and 2011 on their marijuana and tobacco use and their academic performance.

    The study found that students who only smoked marijuana performed better in school than students who smoked only cigarettes or those who smoked both cigarettes and marijuana.

    • Matthew Meyer says:

      totally biased study: those who smoke only marijuana are smarter to begin with, so it’s self-selection at work!

  8. Servetus says:

    Louisiana has always gone nuts over drug use. Possession of a couple of pounds of Mexican ditch weed in the 1970s was enough to send a person to prison for life.

    Louisiana’s culture is dominated by Catholicism, a religion infamous for executing drug consumers under the Roman Inquisition. The Church would still practice its anti-drug inhumanity if it could, given some of the unbelievable crap the Vatican has tried to promote at the UN. However, the attitudes and severity of Louisiana’s drug laws are likely preserved by Louisiana’s racial color lines, which are sharp and distinct. In Louisiana, any legal atrocity is considered a good law if it can be used to incarcerate black people.

    I spent a couple of months in the state on a project at Louisiana State University. My impression was that the Civil War had not yet ended for many of the bubbas who still live there. The pro-Confederate attitude was worst among whites whose antebellum Southern ancestors had been wealthy before the onset of the Civil War in 1861. Now they were po’, like some of the black citizens.

  9. Plant Down Babylon says:

    Good and bad news outta Hawai’i.

    SCR80 / SR37, a resolution requesting the DEA to reschedule marijuana has been heard by the Senate Public Safety Committee. It has been passed out of committee unamended. Mahalo for all of your help and support!

    That was the good news.
    Actually, this is kinda cool that KevKev would even notice us and grace us with HIS presence.

    • Plant Down Babylon says:

      This was my favorite quote;

      People in Hawaii are already showing up every weekend in emergency rooms in states of psychosis after heavy use of synthetic cannabis or other drugs, said Sen. Josh Green, chairman of the Senate Health Committee. Some beat their partners during drug-induced psychosis, he said.

      “Their significant other or spouse is there, begging me to help them find services to get them off the drugs,” Green said. But the state doesn’t have the resources to help everyone, Green said.

      Some in the audience took issue with his remarks.

      Severe reactions such as psychosis might be associated with synthetic marijuana, but not regular marijuana, Lichty said.’snip’

      Sen Josh Green is a fuckin IDIOT. Last election cycle, I put up a sign by the highway that said,

      Josh is NOT Green!

      Guess it didn’t have the desired effect. Oh well, I’ll just keep throwing bricks.

      PS, there is a comment section.

      • kaptinemo says:

        Just left my tuppence. Bound to ruffle some feathers, maybe make some Dem pols ask some questions they didn’t know they could ask, for lack of info.

        • I liked yours and Duncan’s, Kapt. I took a shot at it. Got too damn irritated reading what was said in the article. They don’t have much respect for the intelligence level of their listeners.

        • kaptinemo says:

          TC, that’s partly why I do this. To remind the potential readership of the prevailing attitudes their ‘public servants’ hold towards them. And remind them of the authoritarianism that is the underpinning of that attitude.

          That, and to illustrate the depths to which the prohibs will sink when it comes to protecting their rice bowls. Sabet and ilk are trying to come off as being altruistic, when it becomes obvious with any research that they’re just leeches, chronic parasitic bloodsuckers trying to maintain themselves in a relatively cushy job at the taxpayer’s expense.

          And like most parasites, during the process of feeding, they’ve imparted a disease – fascism – into the body politic, one that will probably take two generations to cleanse.

          HL Mencken warned us back then about the actions of the ‘do-gooders’ and the ‘uplifters’ and how they only make things worse. Today’s prohibs are generally beyond the stupid (or conceited) wide-eyed innocence that usually accompanies such endeavors, and are just a bunch of cynical sharp-eyed grifters looking for new marks in an ever-shrinking pool of them. Sabet’s testimony is a perfect example.

    • Plant Down Babylon says:

      It took MalcomKyle 15sec to leave a comment. HAHAHAHA

      What took him so long!?

    • Duncan20903 says:


      I don’t have a clue anymore why people have such animosity toward Kev-Kev. I’ve developed a genuine fondness for the man. He may well be our very best friend. I know some might argue that our best friend is Patrick Kennedy and it’s a very valid position. But we don’t have to argue because we got lucky in the extreme and somehow managed to bag a BOGO. How in the world could you not be pleased to have the loyal opposition be represented by a vicious, ankle biting, bald faced liar (a very bad one too) and someone who is visibly brain dead? We’re talking about a real life, flesh and blood Ren & Stimpy. It’s enough to make any lesser atheist believe in gods that love him.

      Now you might want to recall that I’m the one that dubbed him Kev-Kev so many months ago (or is it years now?) My first impression of him was of one of those vicious, purse riding ankle biter dogs. It appears that it isn’t an uncommon impression.

      Well I’ll be a uncle’s monkey, it has been over 25 months. Time sure flies when you’re having fun. Ooops, I had almost forgotten about getting lectured for metaphorically punting Kev-Kev. These are the good old days, no doubt.
      I’ve noticed that sometimes automated personalized advertising can be downright hilarious. Of absolutely no importance to the discussion:

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      • allan says:

        you might want to recall that I’m the one that dubbed him Kev-Kev

        hey, I thought I started that bit of ridicule? Not that it matters, unless you’ve trademarked that gentle gesture of mockery. Of course you be da smaht one. I do understand my memory has issues occasionally…

        • claygooding says:

          that is better than mine,,my memory is a plagiaristic thief,,it tells me I invented everything..

        • allan says:

          and from what I could see we have a long history of using ‘Kev’ on the couch but it was Duncan, on Dec 12, 2012, who coined ‘Kev-kev’ – just in time for christmas!

        • Duncan20903 says:


          The only thing that makes me smart is knowing that I’m stupid. I very much identify with clay’s “memory is a plagiaristic thief” meme. That’s why I used a search engine to make as certain as possible that I wasn’t mistaken before I posted.

          I found it interesting that the oldest reference to Mr. Sabet which I found in this blog’s archives was from 2004. Wasn’t he still in diapers that long ago? Now remember that it took until age 15 to get him toilet trained.

  10. DdC says:

    Louisiana Dungeons are anti-American, anti-Humanity.

  11. Parents Say Dayton Told Them To Buy Pot Off The Street

    Pete’s headline says it all.

    “Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we’re looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn’t test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.”

    P. J. O’Rourke

    • B. Snow says:

      In Georgia – uhm?

      They hate “Hippies” last I recall.
      No = you wanna really piss them off – threaten to test ’em for whiskey or better still – “moonshine”…

  12. Servetus says:

    New research using MRI brain-scans at the University of Chicago shows it’s reason, not emotion, that gives a person a sense of justice.

    Psychologists have found that some individuals react more strongly than others to situations that invoke a sense of justice—for example, seeing a person being treated unfairly or mercifully. The new study used brain scans to analyze the thought processes of people with high “justice sensitivity.”

    …the brain imaging … yielded surprises. During the behavior-evaluation exercise, people with high justice sensitivity showed more activity than average participants in parts of the brain associated with higher-order cognition. Brain areas commonly linked with emotional processing were not affected.

    The conclusion was clear, [Jean] Decety, the Irving B. Harris Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry said, “Individuals who are sensitive to justice and fairness do not seem to be emotionally driven. Rather, they are cognitively driven.”

    According to Decety, one implication is that the search for justice and the moral missions of human rights organizations and others do not come primarily from sentimental motivations, as they are often portrayed. Instead, that drive may have more to do with sophisticated analysis and mental calculation.

    The research explains the lack of a sense of justice shown by prohibitionists, and prohibitionist politicians in particular, people whose reasoning abilities always appear severely impaired.

  13. Duncan20903 says:


    Well the prohibitionists have finally figured out how to ban patient cultivation in California. While it’s amusing that it took the idiots almost 18 years to come up to such a simple solution to the vexation of their pathological, malignant narcissism there’s really nothing to be done about it. Well, unless you count getting the re-legalization referendum on the ballot and passed, and this time remember to address civil violations.
    Supreme court lets Live Oak pot growing ban to stand

    If you want to tell me I’m wrong that’s fine, just back it up with the language from the CUA that supports your theory. Good luck finding it!
    Somehow I think that Olivia didn’t have this in mind:
    Uruguay to track pot by genetic markers

  14. Hope says:

    Oh no.

    It’s always seemed to me Louisiana was a mean state with mean governing. Louisiana just brings up pictures of swamps and snakes and alligators. The Big Mean Place… the Big Mean for short.

    They like putting people in jail in Louisiana. That’s just what I think, being a near neighbor to them. A mean place with mean folk.

    Tell me different. I’m open minded.

    • Hope says:

      Caging people for heroin use has worked so well as a preventative.

      I’m always remembering things Kap said. He said the hard cases would double down. Do the same thing. Twice as hard.

      Have those wise lawmakers not noticed that the threat of death itself hangs over the heroin addict?

      They are acting like they want to help heroin users and addicts. They are wringing their hands and wailing and making matters even worse. All the way around.

  15. strayan says:


    So it seems another state has decided to circumvent/undermine the FDA drug approval process…

    Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts has decided he knows better than your medical doctor and has moved to:

    Immediately prohibit the prescribing and dispensing of any hydrocodone-only formulation (commonly known as Zohydro)

    Despite the fact that the FDA have OK’d this medicine:

    darkcycle, you may want to add the Gov. to your speed dial in case of medical emergencies list.

    I wonder if we’ll hear some complaining from our boy Kev-Kev on this one. We all know how upset he gets when states ignore the FDA in relation to medicinal cannabis.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      Alright now, time for some jen-you-ine gubmint statistalistics, and let’s go for a twofer, mirror image style. Let’s start with Massachusetts, move on to Lousiana, and compare both to that icon of addiction on the left coast which we call California. Adjusted for population of course. Let’s call this the analysis of LA-MA-CA.

      It’s easy to see why Gov. Deval is concerned about pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction in Massachusetts. Why according to SAMHSA in 2012 there were 5,824 Bay Staters in “treatment” for pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction. Why, if the Bay State had a population equal to that of California then there would have been 33,284 Bay Staters in “treatment” for pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction. In 2012 there were 9,294 Californians in “treatment” for pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction. Wait, it gets better.

      Sure, there are a lot of Bay Staters who are fans of FDA approved addiction. But if the Bay State had a population equal to that of California then there would have been 241,790 (two hundred forty one thousand seven hundred ninety) Bay Staters in “treatment” for heroin addiction. In 2012 there were 29,102 Californians in “treatment” for heroin addiction.

      The conclusion is inescapable. Gov. Deval hates the fraud of FDA approval, and prefers that Bay Staters stick with a time tested, tried and true substance which is much easier to vilify because of the unknown dangers. The FDA has taken all the mystery out of the pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids with their voluminous lists of known dangers and side effects.

      Does Prop 36 (2000) mean anything? Anything at all? Wasn’t the Compassionate Use Act supposed to be the Golden Gateway Bridge to the devastation of incurable, life long addiction?

      • Duncan20903 says:


        So next let’s purchase a ticket to Louisiana on the Midnight Special and pay a visit to State Rep. Terry Landry. Mr. Landry wants to double the time in prison for heroin law violations.

        If Louisiana had a population equal to that of California then there would have been 12,606 Louisianians in “treatment” for heroin addiction. In 2012 there were 29,102 Californians in “treatment” for heroin addiction.

        If Louisiana had a population equal to that of California then there would have been 24,981 Louisianians in “treatment” for pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction. In 2012 there were 9,294 Californians in “treatment” for pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction.

        The conclusion is inescapable. Mr. Landry has a deep appreciation of the safety offered by FDA approved addiction and cares deeply about his fellow Louisianians health and future. He knows that pharmaceutical non-heroin opiate/opioids addiction is much healthier than substances that haven’t passed the strict testing of FDA approval because of the unknown dangers. If a person must suffer the devastation of incurable, life long addiction, it’s better to be safe than sorry!

        The world of the prohibitionist: where the left brain has no idea what the right brain is doing.

        • Windy says:

          Your comment reminded me of this (OT) video, this comedienne calls her husband Left Brain, and the video is quite funny, though it has nothing to do with the WoD, I think most here will enjoy it, anyway:

          My hubby’s Christian Conservative cousin from TX sent me the link, she thought it was hilarious, so you know there is nothing “sinful” or offensive in it.

      • pfroehlich2004 says:

        Hey Duncan, do you know how to link to the data for previous years? Changing the state abbreviation and final two digits of the year used to allow one to check each state as well as the whole country all the way back to 1992. Now it seems you can only see stats for 2012.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Unfortunately I don’t. I have no idea why it changed, but you’ve puzzled out the reality. The Wayback Machine has a few pages here and there but not enough to be useful. Just this morning I was told by an Internet stranger to try Google cache, and for some unknown reason that it works better if you use Chrome. But Chrome doesn’t work very well on my MacBook and makes it freeze up if anything else is running. Not that anything works very well on a stupid Apple machine but Chrome is hands down the worst. Oh well, this stupid machine is almost dead and soon enough I’ll never use another Apple product short of having a gun to my head.

    • Do any of these lunkheads understand that pure hydrocodone was the solution for people ODing on the tylenol in vicodin that was purposely included as a contaminant? Instead, its inclusion poisoned and killed thousands. Zohydro is an attempt to fix the puposeful poisoning of America with tylenol.

      • B. Snow says:

        Thank You – for noting this distinction calmly and clearly:
        (So, I can do the following)
        Just so everyone is clear they prefer that people who try to regularly use vicodin to get high, die of liver failure over time.

        And not right away like a traditional OD (on the drug itself) No this is more like DAY or so AFTER – someone takes a whole bunch of these. If they attempt to try & stay ‘high’ as the hydrocodone buzz wears off = Well, little do they know, the tylenol hangs around building up to toxic levels.

        Because, you see – We have to make it clear we have a no tolerance policy – when it comes to people taking prescription drugs for anything other than their intended & approved purpose!

        God (or FSM) forbid we let people access a drug that might let them get high – without a risk of death (beyond the risk of OD’ing on the intoxicant). All these God-less Hedonists will learn = If you ‘over-do-it’ on hydrocodone – YOU DIE!

        No happy, slappy free-buzzes around here… You want a buzz ’round here’ – it better come from alcohol, period. You “get high” in this county/state, DAMMIT its gonna come with a fucking hangover – the way good Lord intended!

        /end rant
        (Sorry, but I had to get that outta my system, so to speak…)

  16. Will S. says:

    These addicts will stop at nothing to get their next fix. It’s a well documented fact that they will lie cheat and steal, even kill, to continue to feed their insatiable appetite. It won’t be easy to ween them off of their addiction as they will fight us tooth and nail. They are addicted to your tax money, incarcerating the very citizens that they claim to protect. They must tow the hard on crime line to try to remain in their elected positions. They cling to and push for harsher drug sentences so that the prison industrial complex remains in full swing, ruining lives while making the rich even richer. It is however too late. The free flow of information is upon us and cannot be stopped. This new Information Age has opened Pandora’s box and Americans that pay attention are not happy. These prohibition addicts will wake up one day to find a prohibition on their very own way of life. We are winning through legalization and decriminalization initiatives and more public support everyday. Someday soon there will be a prohibition on prohibition.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      No doubt that the problem in politics is that it’s infested with politicians.

    • Windy says:

      “You can’t give the government the power to do good without also giving it the power to do bad — in fact, to do anything it wants.” -Harry Browne (I sure wish he’d been elected president, we’d have been rid of the unconstitutional acts of government by now, if he had). He’s probably my favorite LP candidate for POTUS ever, with Michael Badnarik a close second, and Ron Paul comes in third. So much common sense in plain language from Harry, if you haven’t already, do read two of his books — Why Government Doesn’t Work, and The Great Libertarian Offer, and you will see I’m right about his value.

  17. DdC says:

    I thought this was a spoof…

    Marijuana And Violence

    Our mission here at MMYV is very simple. We aim to raise awareness that marijuana is responsible for all of the violence on our planet, and then ultimately rid the world of its menacing presence. We will work diligently to ensure that this happens. Here is an outline of our plan… continued

    Stay Weed Free | It’s Easy As 1-2-3

    1 Do Not Toke
    Toking marijuana will result in immediate death.

    2 Do Not Inject
    Injecting marijuana will result in immediate death.

    3 Do Not Eat
    Eating marijuana will result in immediate death.

    All in all, that makes our team 48 members strong, and ever growing.

    D.A.R.E. Curriculum Drops Pot

    Rampant Marijuana Farming In Rolpa Himalayas
    MJNews via @MJHeadlineNews

    Kathmandu and the Black Prince

    Obama: Feds Can’t ‘Police Whether Somebody Is Smoking A Joint On A Corner’

    “Any change is resisted
    because bureaucrats have a vested interest
    in the chaos in which they exist.”
    – Richard Milhouse Nixon

  18. jean valjean says:

    ot (but continuing on the theme of “stupid politicians”)
    im surprised no couchniks have commented on gov mark daytons remarks to parents of kids with epilepsy that they should buy cannabis “on the street” to treat them. mark himself is in recovery and like pat kennedy views the risk that recovering addicts could relapse on mmj as trumping compassion and common sense. he therefore will veto legal treatment for seizures forcing parents onto the blackmarket. what a douchbag.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      Holy lack of common sense Batman! It’s The Douchebag!

      Yes Robin, and he’s up to his old tricks again…

      I apologize. That one is getting so old that anthropologists are starting to apply for grants to study it.

  19. NorCalNative says:

    Saying Goodbye to Opiate Dependence.

    After almost a twenty-year run of using a slow-acting form of morphine called M.S. Contin, I’ve run the course of the drug’s effectiveness, and it’s time to quit.

    I plan to taper off over a three-to-four week period and will be using increased doses of full extract cannabis oil to keep me from having too bumpy a ride.

    The significance of this is that it also ends my run and association with Big Pharma. No more Big Pharma drugs for pain, inflammation, sleep, neuropathy, or high cholesterol.

    I had heroin injected into my arm in 1973 for the first and last time. I loved it so much I made the immediate decision to get away from it as fast as my little white feet could run.

    Experience of the painful withdrawal from that first exposure gave me some insight on why this drug can be so hard to kick. I had a small beginner’s dose, and the next day I felt like someone had taken a baseball bat to most of my body.

    • allan says:

      1973 marked my introduction also. Smoked, not injected. The first time is the best time. After that, boring. Altho it did have interesting sexual side effects after a few weeks…

    • Windy says:

      That is one drug I have never tried, nor wanted to try.

    • Jon says:

      You’re aware that heroin undergoes conversion into morphine before it binds to your opioid receptors, right? Beyond the histamine action of morphine when you IV a large dose, there is zero difference in terms of high, dependence, and withdrawal. And not a chance you experience withdrawal after a single dose.

    • Kevin: Master of the Gish Gallop. That’s all I could think of while reading it.

      “The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority – as it appears to paint the Galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written, internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn’t do their homework before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating opinions.

      It is often successfully combined with the “point refuted a thousand times” (PRATT). The Gallop must consist of as many points as possible, and even old and worn out arguments are useful in overwhelming the respondent and bamboozling the audience. The technique also takes advantage of the one single proof fallacy, since if a respondent only manages to refute 99 out of 100 points there is still one point that proves the Galloper correct. The Galloper takes to heart Joseph Stalin’s advice that “quantity has a quality all its own.”

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  21. Duncan20903 says:


    Have the administrators of the Dewey Decimal Classification System assigned the fiction of merrywanna addiction its own code numbers yet? Wait, do people still use the Dewey Decimal Classification System or have they all joined the 12.0 step program DDCSA?

    Marijuana: Smoking Style Tied to Addiction Risk

  22. claygooding says:

    Norml Women’s Alliance Los Angeles County

    For the first time, a federal judge has granted a hearing on a motion to declare unconstitutional the continued classification of marijuana in Schedule I. The evidentiary hearing is currently set for June 2, 2014, at 9:00 a.m. before Judge Kimberly Mueller in Sacramento. Congratulations to Zenia Gilg and Heather Burke for this significant victory.
    – Dale Gieringer, Cal NORML

    More info as it hits the web,,Is this the one where the govt actually has to present it’s science in a courtroom? That would be one fine dog and pony show right there.

    • allan says:

      Is this the one where the govt actually has to present it’s science in a courtroom?

      Dreamer! But it is kind of THE QUESTION isn’t it? they’ve now lost that battle in the court of public opinion but who could defend the indefensible in real court? Nora? Markie? Paul Ch’bootie?

      • claygooding says:

        It would probably take the govt several years of searching to find a researcher willing to testify the NIDA science of “could be linked with” is accepted as proof of anything.

  23. thelbert says:

    “evidentiary hearing”, i like the sound of that. we have plenty of evidence, all the prohibitches have is a gish gallop made of falsehoods.

  24. darkcycle says:

    Well, my superb track record as pertains to technology is being maintained, no matter the cost. My two and a half year old Dell Notebook just became inert. Non-functional. Kaput. This is after the extensive warrantee service they did when it failed the first time. (After said service they affixed a nasty sticker to the underside that says “Dell consumer services will no longer provide support for this device” among other legalese that essentially meant “F*ck you, pay first”)
    So I am now becoming used to my new Asus, and have lost ALL of my notes, bookmarks, links, photos, and *sigh* everything. Bugger me. So if for the next few weeks or months it sounds like old dc has lost his mind, is going senile, repeating himself, or whatever, you now have the reason, or at least, that’s my excuse.
    (Oh, and my new computer has an added feature that my old one did not. It is now such an obtuse, graphically dependent interface that I can’t even figure out how to open Office, or Word, to register and access those programs. Luckily, there was a big, giant “E” that I was able to identify as my least favorite browser program ever, so at least I made it here to bitch.)

    • darkcycle says:

      No joke…it took me better than a half hour to figure out how to shut this thing down properly.

      • Nunavut Tripper says:

        Sounds like you’ve got Windows 8…lots of sex appeal but not much sex.
        By the time you figure it out you’re too tired.

    • Servetus says:

      A computer repair shop can often extract the data and software from the old hard drive despite the fact the computer is kaput. My last experience doing so was with a Dell laptop.

      • darkcycle says:

        …meh, more trouble than it’s worth really. All the important things like pictures are backed up on the Desktop in the office, and that’s where we do the taxes, and keep the records. So important files are still there. I’ll muddle through with a little help from Startpage and for the other stuff, I can always turn on the office rock crusher.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        The time I paid for data recovery it cost me almost $1500. That’s a lot of welfare checks allan. I prefer that my welfare money go to the unbridled pursuit of hedonism. Fun is always more fun when it’s free of charge.

        • Servetus says:

          $1500? You were ripped. It cost me $70.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Either ripped or my hard drive failure was significantly different than yours. I only ended up taking it to the data recovery company after getting the same diagnosis from 3 other technicians. They didn’t get paid a penny for their time because they couldn’t fix it. Their quoted prices were $60-$80 so very much in line with your price. clean room repairs are very expensive.

          To be honest I had forgotten about those three concurring diagnoses and their price for data retrieval.

    • strayan says:

      I suggest buying a chromebook. I bought one for my 65 year old mother who used to call me at least twice a week because the computer ‘wasn’t working’.

      I have not had a phone call for the last 6 months!

    • Pete says:

      I’ve become a fanatic about backups (due to plenty of bad experiences in the past) and it really pays off for me.

      My hard drive in my office crashed this week, but I use Time Machine for backup. They stuck a different machine on my desk and I restored with Time Machine. All bookmarks, passwords, everything back in place with no problems at all, and I was back at work as if nothing had happened.

      I have a similar system at home. And for my photography, I have a separate drive to store all my photographs and that is backed up to another drive regularly – a removable drive, and I keep one copy of that at home and one at the office.

      • darkcycle says:

        That makes sense, now that paper copies of these sorts of items are becoming rare. I saw a backup hard drive for 60 bucks at the Best Buy. Now I think I may go back and pick it up. But that means regularly re-updating. More work for dc. And between the kids, the wife returning to work and everything else, it’s even hard to get the regular stuff done. Getting to like the new machine, though, even though the operating system (Windows “Hate”) sucks.

  25. Servetus says:

    New Research: publication from Tulane University School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine exonerates medical marijuana as a precipitator of crimes. Homicides and assaults appear reduced:


    Results did not indicate a crime exacerbating effect of MML [medical marijuana laws] on any of the Part I offenses. Alternatively, state MML may be correlated with a reduction in homicide and assault rates, net of other covariates.


    These findings run counter to arguments suggesting the legalization of marijuana for medical purposes poses a danger to public health in terms of exposure to violent crime and property crimes.

    The Effect of Medical Marijuana Laws on Crime: Evidence from State Panel Data, 1990-2006. Robert G. Morris, Michael TenEyck, J. C. Barnes, Tomislav V. Kovandzic. Published: March 26, 2014. DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0092816.

  26. claygooding says:

    Every three years I buy a new computer through Dell,,this year I bought a new laptop for mobile use but still have a year to go on the desk top before renewal time,,if no probs may use it for an extra year,,to me $40 a month payment is like a lease payment and I always have a working computer,,I buy the 2 year protection plan and so far every old Dell has been handed down to my great-nephews and nieces to keep them off their parents computers,,,and most of them were still working when their parents bought them new ones because they needed portability for school use.
    Now they are all grown and buying their own computers so I am checking with a local group that refurbishes pooters and gives them to needy kids..I am sure formatting and reloading windows and a few apps for school and perhaps a browser with parental controls installed but at least the kids get to use a computer to familiarize with a tool that is already a required skill to work at Burger King.

    I came close to buying a chromegold or other notepad but after hearing dark curse his I hesitated and went with my usual”next to the top of the line laptop.

    My new one has touchscreen,,,since I love the bar games with touchscreen capabilities it is a blast,,,but I still have my mouse hooked up,,sometimes old habits are hard to break. It is too easy to doubletap in the games trying to touch screen.

    • Windy says:

      I have had my custom built desktop for 12 years and it is still running great, the OS is Windows Vista and even after all this time and thousands of pics stored on it my hard drive is less than half full. I have an external hard drive hooked into it and once a week it backs up automatically to that external drive. I also have a newer HP laptop also running Vista (which currently needs repair, a repair scam made it go blackscreen around Christmas, so now I have to take it into the shop, someday) and a Surface tablet running Windows 8. Hubby has a brand new HP laptop running 8, too; it was his very first computer and he’s mostly happy with it now that he knows how to use it. When we take our RV vacation next month we’ll be taking the Surface and his laptop along, though I am not sure we’ll have much connectivity available due to the fact we are going to Utah to see the “Mighty Five” and will be spending about a week in the Palouse with friends (where there is no WiFi and no cell service at all). But when service is available I will be checking in.

  27. Duncan20903 says:


    Oh for crying out loud, Jeb Bush wants to be the Republican nominee for POTUS in 2016. Does he really think he’s got a friggin’ prayer after what his idiot brother did to our economy? Oh heck, I’ve got to run…H.L. Mencken is on the phone waiting to talk with me.

    Go feed the chickens Jebediah. The United States has had enough of your family.

    • darkcycle says:

      Yup, that’s the choice they WANT us to have. The Corporate PTB would love nothing more than a contest between Hillary and old Jeb. That way, no matter who or what wins, they will get everything they want. God help us if those wind up being our “choices”.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        Barring the nomination of the Gump/Rainman ticket for the Democrats I just don’t see anyway that the Democrats wouldn’t be ecstatic about Mr. Bush the other being nominated by the Republicans. They’d be laughing all the way to the White House so to speak.

        I do think with some hard work and a clever campaign slogan Mr. Gump could beat Mr. Bush on election day. I’m thinking “It’s better to be lucky than smart!” for the Gump campaign slogan.

        • darkcycle says:

          That is what makes the Hillary/Jebby matchup a winner. The number of folks who hate the Bush’s can only be compared to the number of people who hate Hill. She is loathed by multitudes. Nothing would keep more people away from the polls.

    • Windy says:

      I agree, and I also feel the same way about Hillary Clinton. I detest them both. The LAST thing America needs is another Clinton or Bush (or ANY dem or rep) in the WH.

  28. primus says:

    As usual, there are no good choices, only ‘best of a bad lot’ kind of choices. Where are the good choices? Too smart to run.

    • Windy says:

      Where are the good choices? Well, they are the ones kept off the newscasts, out of the debates and (as much as the dems and reps can make it possible with their primaries/caucuses machinations) off the ballots.

  29. Jean Valjean says:

    Just got back from a Cesar E. Chavez Day civil rights rally for immigration reform. Not surprisingly most of the speakers and many attendees were Hispanic but I was surprised that no one mentioned the racist anti-immigrant effect of the drug war … racism like Anslinger’s term for what was then commonly called cannabis, “marijuana,” a euphemism designed to give this common ingredient an alien, Mexican sounding ring.
    As long as any group (yes, even those nasty, criminal druggies) is denied civil rights, we are all denied them. I’m asking myself the question whether the influence of the Catholic church is partly the reason for this deafening silence among Hispanic immigration reformers? Black and Hispanic Americans are disproportionately victimized by prohibition and yet their churches continue to support the status quo when it comes to drug reform.

    • allan says:

      it seems I’ve heard legalization among Hispanic voters is only at 40% support.

      • B. Snow says:

        And there’s at least three ways to spin that…

        1. They don’t want to be “blamed for it” – back at the start of the racism, Or presently… That might insinuate that some of them fit the original stereotype.

        2. They’re Roman Catholics & feel guilt about having a good time, and don’t want to be portrayed as “Cheech” (or Chong) among their congregation (similar to point 1.)

        3. They have ‘vested interests’ in the status quo – On either side of the matter…

        (IDK what “4” is but I’ll think of it later I’m sure there’s at least one more.)

  30. Jean Valjean says:

    What does this say about the Louisa Sherrifs’ Association?

    ‘Chuck Thompson writes, “The southerner’s enthrallment with war and bloodshed, his veneration of defeat and disaster, his zeal for religious crusade, and easy compliance with the corporate profit motive, has repeatedly dragged the nation into unnecessary wars.”’

  31. Duncan20903 says:


    Who likes to look at maps of the world? Does anyone appreciate wannabe government bureaucrat generated statistics in very weird, invented categories? Does anyone know what DALY means? Would anyone be interested in viewing substantial supporting evidence that says that the prohibitionists don’t know what they’re talking about? If so then hurry up and click because this link is for you:
    Schizophrenia world map – DALY – WHO2004

    • jean valjean says:

      looks like australia has the lowest schizophrenia rate in the world. funny, i remember reading that they had the highest rate of cannabis comsumption too. so much for that theory.

  32. Nunavut Tripper says:

    Interesting find Duncan. Seems Canada,US ,Europe and Australia have a reasonably low rate but these countries are havens for cannabis lovers.
    The islands between Aus and China seem to be a hotspot.
    Why the strong demarcation at the Mexican border ?
    Different research criteria ?

  33. primus says:

    Here in Canuckistan, we were told that our rate of cannabis consumption is the highest in ‘some semi-important group of countries’. So what’s correct? Who wins the trophy for highest consumption per capita? Enquiring minds want to know.

    • Nunavut Tripper says:

      I’ve heard Canada had the highest consumption.
      I’ve also heard the Americans make the same claim and now the Australians want to be the world toking champs.

      I have insider information that the Canucks are the best.

      Don’t ask how I know.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      The honor of boasting the largest percentage of citizens who choose to enjoy cannabis goes to a tiny island country called Palau.

      Canada is #8, immediately behind the U.S. at #7. People just need to quit doubting the power of Francis’ Law.

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