Oh, to be in Vienna!

bullet image Dr. Julio Montaner, President of the International AIDS Society supports the Vienna Declaration

Remarkably, there is also a critical mass of scientific evidence regarding the unintended negative consequences of policies based exclusively on drug law enforcement. We have to recognize that the war on drugs has not only failed to reduce illicit drug supply and use, but it has also resulted in a range of human rights violations, drug market violence and HIV and HCV epidemics among users.

That being said, this wealth of evidence we have generated over the last couple of decades are being systematically neglected and ignored in favor of a highly prevalent ideologically driven war on drugs.

I’d love to be in Vienna for the conference that starts tomorrow. Last time (the only time) I was there… when I arrived, there was a street fair going on in front of my hotel and an Austrian band was playing “Sweet Home, Chicago.” Sweet, indeed.

bullet image ‘Drug law enforcement has entirely failed’ — Dr Evan Wood, founder of the International Centre for Science in in Drug Policy, explains why he is calling for a “dramatic reform of drug policy” on BBC.

bullet image Legalising marijuana: The law of the weed — an article not up to the Economist’s usual standards, with an absolutely ridiculous photo.

bullet image Oh, yeah, that’ll solve it. Schwarzenegger mobilizes National Guard to border

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday mobilized members of the California National Guard as part of a federal effort to deter drug trafficking and illegal immigration along the border with Mexico.

His order supports President Barack Obama’s plan to have 1,200 National Guard troops assist with federal border protection, customs and immigration agents.

Good to know that both the Governor and the President have a bunch of extra cash laying around.

bullet image This one at officer.com has been around for a little while, but it’s quite an amazingly stupid read. Nice to see it taken apart in the comments there. Legalizing Marijuana by Chris Watkins, Narcotics/K9 Ops Contributor. [Link Fixed]

bullet image Oh, Nos! You can get high from listening to sound!!!

As Radley says

Someone needs to tell News 9 and the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics that as far as facepalm-stupid attempts to scare the crap out of parents with hysterical “next new drug” stories go, the “digital drugs” thing is so 2008.

bullet image Thanks to the regular Drug WarRant readers who came to my show last night and found me and said “Hi.” Sorry I didn’t get to talk to you more!

This is an open thread.

[Thanks Tom, Daniel, and others]

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36 Responses to Oh, to be in Vienna!

  1. Lee Van Spleef says:

    That must be some terrible weed to have to roll one up that large. It might even be the cheech and chong paper! Remember when Sebastian Bach the Skid Row singer caught hell for wearing that aids-kills fags dead shirt. Things have come a long way since then. People are more informed, hopefully.

  2. Jon Doe says:

    Has anyone actually tried the whole i-dosing thing? I’ve listened while mediating to the samples posted on youtube and all I can say is this: yeah, apparently headache inducing atonal “music” can indeed fuck you up, but not in a good way.

  3. Steve says:

    Pete I think the officer.com link needs attention. Thanks for what you do!

  4. Duncan says:

    I wonder if the woman lighting the huge joint rolled it with some of that Hawaiian Labrador.

    Christ I thought the propagandists were off the deep end with the desire to ban chemically enhanced imitation cannabis. Speaking of that it’s ironic. I’ve been aware of imitation buds for 5-6 years now and up until a couple of months ago had rejected the idea of giving it a try. But that’s cause I thought it just a ripoff until all these politicians verified that the stuff actually does have psychoactive effects. Now I know where to go to buy it and the brand names to ask for. But more importantly this and the ‘digital drugs’ thing there’s absolutely nothing except ‘getting high’ that’s a sin in propaganist land.

  5. Duncan says:

    Jon Doe you can induce a seizure in an epileptic person with a strobe light at the right frequency, so I really have no reason to doubt that you can get some mind altering effect using sound.

  6. Ed Dunkle says:

    I think i-dosing works if you are young, impressionable, and desperately want to feel anything resembling a high.

    Has there been a single republican in California that has come out in support of Prop 19? You’d think there would be one, actual Republican who believed in states rights. Nah…

  7. Servetus says:

    Dancing is another way to alter states of consciousness.

    Tribal cultures have been studied which engage in dance ceremonies lasting tens-of-hours or even days at a stretch. At the end, dancers fall to the ground and experience what to observers resembles a kind of trance or epileptic fit, complete with foaming at the mouth and physical contortions. The dancers themselves experience temporary hallucinations, out of body experiences, and so forth.

    Anthropologists and evolutionary psychologists estimate that people have used dance-induced tripping (as well as drugs) since before the completed development of language in humans about 50,000 years ago. Some think ceremonies involving altered states were contemporaneous with the emergence of language and helped catalyze its development.

    The emotional/physical reaction of being lost in movement lies so deeply in the human psyche that it’s become common practice for some religions to prohibit dancing, or at least to strictly control it.

    Expect Okalahoma Part Deux when kids learn they can dance to hallucinate.

  8. claygooding says:

    The article concerning the loss of the narc squad in Stockton is very interesting because it underlines how close we are to having infrastructure failures nation wide.
    As the unemployed start setting up even more tent cities
    across our nation will the politicians and bureaucrats
    continue to spend money on a failed drug policy as our cities continue shutting down their front line warriors, the narc squads. Even a small city in Ca realizes that the narcs are the least necessary department in their police force.

  9. Duncan says:

    Oh well, Paris Hilton again is arrested for possession of cannabis. I guess we’re tuck with her after all.

  10. jhelion says:

    I used to create sounds with binaural beats probably 20 years or so ago. I created several, some to put my mind in a state of enhanced learning for studying, some to induce deep delta waves and to induce lucid dreaming. They act like this stuff is new, and like anyone can do anything about it.

  11. daksya says:

    Mark Kleiman has an op-ed out against Cali Prop. 19

  12. Lamont Cranston says:

    I’ll stick with Mother Nature’s own cannabis sativa and use the salvia and other synthetic crap for the garbage disposal or round file cabinet.

  13. Jon Doe says:

    Lamont: uh, saliva (also known as Diviner’s Sage) is as natural as cannabis and has been used by certain cultures in the New World for as long as cannabis has been used by other cultures in the Old World. The whole K2/Spice stuff is NOT saliva. It’s a synthetic cannabinoid sprayed on random herbs.

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  15. Shap says:

    Mark Kleiman is a fucking idiot. As Pete has discussed previously, this argument that a state “can’t” legalize marijuana because of federal government supremacy is not even worth refuting because it is so intellectually dishonest if you have any understanding about federalism and constitutional law.

  16. Servetus says:

    Here’s a good piece by Berkeley linguist George Lakoff titled Why Conservative Lies Spread… which can easily be applied to prohibitionist lies and what reformers can do to counter them.

  17. allan420 says:

    hawaii’s roger christie is getting the shaft:

    Hawaii Cannabis Ministry founder ordered held without bail

    Interesting to note this version from Don Wirtshafter that came thru this morning:

    Roger is pretty much incommunicado while being held in the Oahu jail. Even I, a lawyer, have been unable to speak to him. Roger has a public defender. In fact, all 15 defendants pulled into this case qualified for the public defender. What does that tell you about the religious/non-commercial motives and sincerity of the people involved? The government swept in, arrested all 15, flew them off the Big Island as cargo on the world’s biggest military transport airplane. The US Marshalls took their IDs promising to mail them back to their homes. After a couple nights in jail, while being denied their prescription medications, all were brought to a bail hearing. All but Roger were offered recognizance bonds and were dumped outside the courtroom with no money, no ID and no way to get back to the Big Island. They got home to stripped houses, seized cell phones and IDs, seized address book and computers. And frozen credit. Their properties are up for seizure. And thanks to the local paper that published the defendants addresses, at least one defendant has just returned home to find a house broken into and all personal valuables stolen.

  18. Captain Spaulding says:

    Der Führer had a hard time in Vienna. I love those Austrian economists though and not those ivory tower academics from Chicago. You’ll have to sprechen and verstehen sie Deutsch in Wien, Osterriech.

  19. Lamont Sanford says:

    Ohh yeah Salvia is natural. I’ve never tried it a buddy said if you do some and stand up quick you’ll fall over. I think I’ll pass. Later in your comment it said saliva and it made me laugh hehe.

  20. claygooding says:

    Irregardless of the dangers/safety of the “synthetic marijuana”,regulate the sales,put a friggen warning on the label on the package and tax it.
    Don’t just prohibit it and put another item on the cartels menu.
    How can anyone that has read these forums,lived through this time and seen the damage prohibition has wreaked on our society support or recommend doing it again?
    I don’t want to even try it,I got mine!

  21. claygooding says:

    “That must be some terrible weed to have to roll one up that large. It might even be the cheech and chong paper! Remember when Sebastian Bach the Skid Row singer caught hell for wearing that aids-kills fags dead shirt. Things have come a long way since then. People are more informed, hopefully.”

    OR,she is going to smoke it with 321 other people and 1 hit is all you get,or need.

  22. Duncan says:

    No need to argue about cannabis vs salvia. A competition was held to see the difference, and you can watch it here:


    Tommy Chong really is in good physical shape for a 70+ year old man.

  23. kaptinemo says:

    Pegging the irony meter: at the link for the California/Schwatzeneggar was an ad for the California prison union, urging citizens to demand reform. I almost choked to death laughing on that one; the organization that has sought the disastrous ratcheting up of penalties for cannabis possession and precipitated the prison crisis, is now demanding reform?

    The hypocrisy bandwidth has been exceeded…

  24. Ed Dunkle says:

    Kleiman’s argument is that we can’t legalize cannabis in California because it’s a federal crime. And that’s why he gets the big bucks.

  25. Hans says:

    Mandatory minimum sentences Kaptain that is why the privatized prisons are overflowing. Someone grows some herb or sells it gets caught and ends up with murderers and rapists somehow the punishment does not fit the crime. The wackenhuts and cca’s of the world love it though and the small armpit, anus towns of the world who can’t do without their prisons.

  26. Paul says:


    Their idea of reform and your idea of reform may be two very different things. By reform, they probably mean that California urgently needs to extend sentences, raise prison guard pay, and build more prisons RIGHT NOW before the whole state collapses.

  27. kaptinemo says:

    Paul, I am well aware of their…orientation…but the fact is that they are a large part of why the State of California is heading for the fiscal boneyard. They’ve sucked down so much of the CA budget that they’ve been like vampires, draining the life’s-blood from their oblivious host, and now said host is moribund and in serious straits. Maybe the host (aka the taxpayers) will realize this in time and get themselves some crucifixes and garlic, but I’d be willing to bet they won’t until after the final crash. And then it won’t matter to anyone but the ‘correctional’ union…who will then have a taste of what everyone else there is getting, in no small part courtesy of their greed and hunger for political power.

  28. denmark says:

    It’s been my new experience in Washington state that regular citizens, who “support” marijuana being legal, are not going to do what it takes to end the war on drugs. Until … one of their friends failed their UA and got thrown in jail. That jarred some into an uncomfortable place but regrettably not enough.

    And I must say the paragraph: “this wealth of evidence we have generated over the last couple of decades are being systematically neglected and ignored in favor of a highly prevalent ideologically driven war on drugs” says it all.
    Not sure how many other ways it can be said.

    It will be as you wrote in your last comment kaptinemo, “but I’d be willing to bet they won’t until after the final crash”. So damn sad, so out of touch has humanity become.

  29. ezrydn says:

    If the parents are using the net, it’s probably only for entertainment. Most are “cellphone robots.” It’s a hoot to watch how it controls people’s behaviors. I would think tapping into their entertainment might catch their attention. Cells are already targeted commercially, and not just by service providers.

    Someone (not me) should make an “app” that could be freely downloaded. What it would do? Well, that’s up to the author. And it should target multi-OSs (I think there’s a majority within the top 4.

    That’s just an idea that flew through as I read denmark’s last line.

  30. Scott says:

    In the News 9 video, at 2:07, the time on the cell phone in the shot is 4:20.

    Chalk that one up under fwiw.

  31. Pete says:

    Officer.com link fixed. Sorry about that (thanks, Steve).

  32. well, kleiman in this particular situation is quite correct. but if the initiative passes, i think that rather than sending in the stormtroopers, the feds will go for prosecution ala the arizona immigration law.

    we are not going to win this game one tiny bit at a time.

  33. Just me. says:

    As far as the “sound” drug, its just more fear mongering , as always, they gotta keep the public fearful.

  34. Paul says:

    I think the sound drug is great! The more authorities appear on TV and make fools of themselves, the better.

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