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Silk Road running again

An interview with the new Dread Pirate Roberts:

You will hunt me — but first ask yourselves is it worth it? Taking me down will not affect Silk Road — back-ups have already been distributed and this entire infrastructure can be redeployed elsewhere in under 15 minutes, and you will gain nothing from our database.

So, if you want to go after the real criminals, such as the rapists, the violent street thugs, and child abusers, then go ahead… but if you come after us, then all you will have done is take the unadulterated drugs away from people who will simply turn to more dangerous supplies.

I am peaceful. I will be donating money to charity; I will be providing free testing services for users and vendors — so if law enforcement wish to turn this into a PR disaster for themselves, then I will not stop their self-destruction. […]

The recurring theme [at] Silk Road is that we provide honest, unadulterated products to people who want them, and whether we [were] here or not, most people would have access to them anyway from shady street dealers who lie through their teeth.

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20 comments to Silk Road running again

  • claygooding

    Sounds like the CIA is trying to cut out the middle man.

  • allan

    the bottom line:

    “Ultimately you cannot stop people doing drugs, but you can make it safer for them, and get people off the streets and away from violence — which is what we stand for.”

    • Tony Aroma

      Funny, that’s exactly the opposite of what the government stands for. Here’s the government’s version:

      Ultimately you can stop people doing drugs, and until you do, you can make it more dangerous for them, and get people into the streets and involved in violence .

      • DdC

        “At DEA, our mission is to fight drug trafficking in order to make drug abuse the most expensive, unpleasant, risky, and disreputable form of recreation a person could have.”
        – Donnie Marshall,
        Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA)

        Drug Czar linked to deception
        – Drug Czar is Required by Law to Lie
        – UK’s Drugs Czar Fired For Marijuana Truths
        – Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage
        – Anti-Drug Campaigns Dumb Down Vital Message
        – Calvina Fay Prohibition Inc.
        – GOP Mogul Behind Drug Rehab ‘Torture’ Centers

        Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy … and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with ‘scientific support’ … fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others.”
        ~ William F. Buckley, Jr. Requiescat In Pace
        Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

  • curmudgeon

    I have never used silk road, and probably never will. However, I fully support their existence, and have more respect for them than for the federal government. If the feds want to get rid of silk road, legalize all drugs.

  • claygooding

    Hell,the government can’t even stop drugs in their prisons and that is about as close to total control of an environment as it can get.

  • kaptinemo

    OT. You think you’ve seen everything…until you’ve seen this: Have You Been Smoking Pot? Denver Police Have a New Way to Tell: The ‘Nasal Ranger’

    What can I say, but…it anatomically mimics the mental impression one might have of why some refer to police as being akin to overly-curious swine, sticking porcine schnozzes where they have no business being.

    Only a sick, twisted prohib mind could come up with this…

    • claygooding

      The nasal sniffer is right out of Futurama and the prof would be proud,,the sniffer is not used to determine smoking marijuana but growing odors in urban areas,,skunk being the main complaint,,the smell of a joint is momentary but ripening cannabis can last several weeks. Indoor growers can use carbon filters and control the odor but I am not sure how having 3 full term plants would odor up a neighborhood that badly,,unless everybody on the block but one guy had 3 plants.

    • allan

      I think it’s really a nose bong in that picture…

      • B. Snow

        The BEST part of this seemingly “Onion worthy” news-piece:

        “The device does, however, require a subscription to the built-in odor tracker program. “

        • B. Snow

          If it requires an iPhone like device to run the program – as an “App” then just maybe the company could use that to back-track to wherever “the pigs” are located at any point in time via GPS coordinates – should they choose to do so…

          However, the most sophisticated version of the nose telescope has the ability to record both the concentration of marijuana in the air, as well as the GPS coordinates of where the smell is emanating from—available for $3,500, making it the most expensive scent-detector on the market. The device does, however, require a subscription to the built-in odor tracker program.

          Or maybe that’s just how I might theoretically use it, If I lived in Denver and had the need/desire to do so.

  • allan

    OT… anyone gonna be near Gallatsin, TN tomorrow (Friday)?

    A War on Drugs or a War on Consciousness?

    Michel Lenz, Ph.D., will be lecturing about the United State’s War on Drugs in the Mary Cole Nichols Dining Room B at Volunteer State Community College on Friday, Nov. 15, at 12:20 p.m.

    Lenz is a professor of American Government at Vol State, and during his three semesters here, he has given lectures concerning the current state of US politics to help promote his program.

    Lenz recently discussed some of the main themes of his upcoming lecture.

    “In my talk I will discuss The American War on Drugs and specifically about the detrimental effects of the US government’s war on drug possession, drug distribution and drug trafficking,” said Lenz.

    “Some of the key themes that will be brought up include the punishment and victimization of non-violent drug offenders.

    “I’ll be talking about the escalating prison population and the profits that are made off for-profit-prisons,” Lenz continued.

    “I’ll be talking about the fact that while the government is trying to regulate our access to drugs and illegal substances it however promotes even more destructive drugs i.e. pharmaceuticals,” said Lenz.

    Lenz also mentioned a case where the US government was discovered bringing cocaine into the country.

    “I will be talking about how the CIA itself has been linked to drug trafficking.

    “I’ll be talking about the CIA’s role in trafficking drugs into the country back in the 1980’s.

    “[The CIA] actually got caught red-handed importing tons upon tons of cocaine into the country and then set off the crack cocaine epidemic,” said Lenz.

    Lenz spoke during the 2012-2013 school year on the US Drug War, but he states that he will be including a new theme to this year’s discussion.

    “One theme additionally that I’m going to be exploring, is how the war on drugs is a serious violation of many spiritual faith’s right to worship,” said Lenz.

    -snip-

  • DdC

    This Is Where You’re Going To Be Buying Your Drugs

    That was fast: 2 sites vie for Silk Road’s criminal customers

    Legalizers, Common Sense & Wrong Dollars

    The more logical. The more drug worriers reject it for fanciful hobgoblins. It wouldn’t be so obviously stupid if these profiteers learned from History, but they just try to censor it. When Dance Safe tried testing X, the RAVE Ax banned it, bottled water and glow sticks. They ban glass art bongs but not tobacco pipe of briar wood. RAVE has proven its ability to ban NORML gatherings. Why didn’t they ban Disco?

    Study Finds Compounds in Cannabis Fight Leukemia, Kill Cancer Cells. Government Knew in 74. The DEA quickly shut down the study and all further cannabis/tumor research. When Reagan needed a back up plan for “NO”. He asphyxiated some monkey’s with a gas mask blasting Ganja smoke and then counted the dead brain cells. OK, the Heath study he commissioned did. He undoubtedly only repeated the bogus results. Just another coincidence it seems to happen more frequently during times of increased popularity in pot or election years. Then told us and with the media in over drive repeating his quote “I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast.”

    Nixon rejected the Supreme Court decision to over turn the Marihuana tax Ax and created his own new and improved version lumping in RX and Hemp as schedule #1 narcotics, with no medicinal value, so according to the DEA, they have been wasting millions in tax dollars growing, crushing, rolling, packaging and shipping 300 joints every 25 days to IND patients since the Reagan dark ages. Menace to society, or at least the part making pharmaceuticals, cotton, trees, crude oil, plastic, dairy, meat, leather, fish oil and cops get to shop for christmas at the confiscation warehouse. Or buy cheap homes they forfeiture for having drugs. Cars, cash and even kids. Farmed out for more tax dollars into the Foster Care rackets. More GOP ideas on smaller government. with walmartians profits behind it. Must have a gigantuous bathtub to drown it.

    Most of the cannabis eradications are wild unkept ditch-weed pheasant habitat. Schwag for smoking. Basically burlap and canvas. But thanks to Shuck and Jive together again, it adds bigger numbers to the “drugs” headed off at the pass before they reach your child.

    The only real statistics to maintain this dysfunction for profits and fame. Is with pharmaceuticals. With human error even prescribed quality assured white powders have negative consequences. Side effects and over doses. But human error is almost always on the user and not the manufacturer. So it seems that would be the side they tried to educate and lower the tragedies, mostly human error which usually means preventable.

    Instead more Common Sense is banned. Junkies have known about Naloxone as an opioid antagonist drug developed by Sankyo in the 1960s. It can stop a lethal OD in its tracks. So they banned it. I heard they may have recently made it available for cops. All the deaths from outlawed rescues is not American.

    With deadly STD’s like AIDs one might think it prudent at this juncture to reduce the spread of the diseases by injections as with condoms for sex. Though that was protested by most of the same drug worriers. Provide clean syringes and supplies to sterilize their own. So they outlaw needle exchanges and ban syringes without prescriptions. Sure enough the world wide AIDs epidemic spread and Billions in tax dollars are spent cleaning up the mess with still only a handful of places. Maintenance clinics are more scarce. Many are Sam Stone Vets getting wounded and abandoned by the tax paid Military Industrial Complex. They prefer disposable soldiers like Wall St prefer disposable labor.

    Now The Silk Road is back making it safer to buy products deemed illicit by politicians overwhelmingly with an objective to profit on the drug war. Gutting regulations for smoke stack emissions or labeling food of what it actually has in it, to permit an informed decision by the consumer is no different. Smearing grease on the windows of transparency or removing checks and balances has only one goal. Same as the drug worriers paid to lie, its in their contract.

    Humans can not be trusted. We see the results of blind trust everyday cops are probing people. They were raised in the land of leave it to beaver and don’t know probing people isn’t part of the script? By their calculations if every 10 years the pot gets stronger then our forefathers had to have been smoking negative pot. A cannabis Naloxone. I don’t think they thunk all this constitutional stuff up on schwag. If it is a gateway to harder drugs, that means more potent, rather than impotent I guess. How did they gateway before the mid 1800’s and the inventions of morphine and heroin? Must have been tough for the Jesus crowd breathing in all that hashish kaneh bosm incense.

    Drug worriers by every measure end up being nothing more than hallucinations. Each time we stick a fork in them they disappear back under their rocks. Banning comments or any debate. They say what they need to say and have a bogus law backing them up and a spineless over sight afraid to change the direction the tax is spent. From Koch private prisons and rehabilitations to the infrastructure and stimulation of the cities and rebuilding the middle class and workers wages to a living wage they can spend more time with their kids. Less time for the kids to get into drugs purposely made more dangerous. Better dead than drugged. Not in my America!

    Ecstasy Study Shows MDMA Won’t Harm Your Brain

    Oh that means Joe Biden’s RAVE Ax can be over turned?

    XTC tests using Meth!
    Evidence for the RAVE Ax to ban cannabis advocates from public gatherings.

    • DdC

      Well he may have sabotaged the Peace talks and kept thousands of Americans in harms way or dead. But would he really lie about Ganja? D’oH!

      The Secrets of US War Crimes in Vietnam Unearthed

      Nixon’s Treason

      • claygooding

        I still marvel that his most destructive policy change is still going,,all his other changes have long since died and been discarded as the trash they were but he hatched a diseased corruption infested holocaust on the poor and it stands as his monument.
        I can see as others that the arrest records show a racial application of the marijuana laws on the surface but it is really a war on the poor,,,because poor people don’t hire attorneys and take charges to court,,95% are settled without a jury trial the last statistic I saw and if the police arrested more middle class the officers would be spending more time in court instead of arresting more marijuana users,
        Any person that has been to prison can tell you that the only whites in prison for non-violent crimes are either poor or they are being made an example of. Examples of rich whites in prison are rarer than hen’s teeth

        • allan

          in my oh so thankfully brief stint in Terminal Island FCI I remember one other white guy. The prisoners around our cell told us “you guys have to meet Doc!” Somehow we got to take our 45 minute exercise break in the “yard” with Doc.

          Doc (sorry don’t remember his name) had worked for Salvador Allende either in the office of or as his finance minister. He was a pediatrician and said he was in prison primarily because he was Allende’s friend. After returning to the US after Allende’s death he had been incarcerated for some trumped up federal violation. He was in there when we were (1983 or 84) because he had violated the letter of his parole. He lived in a border city and had travelled to Mexico to care for a friend’s very sick child…

        • B. Snow

          To be fair, Nixon started the EPA, but that’s the exception to the rule – or maybe a very ‘forward-looking’ means to detect precursor chemicals in the general public/environment… Maybe like that Nose-telescope thing only bigger and more sinister…

          I suppose – Just maybe = that he wanted clean air in California – like most everyone else. But, I get your larger point…

  • DdC

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  • @Curmudgeon…..Great for you, but what about people like me that have difficulty finding a safe, reliable supply with variety?