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Rapture Open Thread

And these are the people who usually accuse us of wanting to get ‘high’…

Well, the impending predicted rapture (6 pm on May 21) has been quite entertaining. Alas, it will end soon. Based on the jokes I’ve heard, very few people if they even believed it (which they don’t), would actually want to spend a significant amount of time with the people who do believe it.

The word is that it’ll come by time zone, which means it’ll hit Kiritimati, Christmas Island in just a few minutes.

What are your favorite rapture jokes?

Here’s one (thanks, Radley) from Six Feet Under (possibly NSFW).

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56 comments to Rapture Open Thread

  • John

    18:52 in Kiritimati: no signs of any earthquakes…

    To early to call this a sham?

  • Jeff Shivers

    POST RAPTURE LOOTING PARTY

    LOCATION : EVERYWHERE

    WHEN : SUNDAY MAY 22 , 2011

  • Harold! Ju got some essplainin to doooo!!!!

  • Servetus

    Party like there’s no tomorrow. Starting now.

  • DdC

    If this one is sold out there will be additional shows after the election…

    THE MAYAN CALENDAR END-DATE
    21 December 2012

    The I-Ching to 2012: Terrance Mckenna’s Timeline

    I CHINGs Dooms day prediction and Terence McKenna

    2012 Solar Eruption to Polar Shift
    In the year 2012 the Earth awaits a super catastrophe: its magnetic field will completely reverse in one go. Phenomenal earthquakes and tidal waves will destroy our civilization. Europe and North-America will shift thousands of kilometers northward and end up in a polar clime. Nearly the whole Earth’s population will perish in the apocalyptic events.
    The Orion Prophecy (2001) by Patrick Geryl and Gino Ratinck

    Conclusion

    Patrick Geryl’s ideas are not scientific theories. He indulges in pseudo-science (specifically pseudo-astronomy and pseudo-archeology) and his conclusions are incorrect. We show that his claimed mechanism for physically flipping the earth’s core is impossible, and that his claimed results (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are incorrect.

    Einstein in 1955, Nostradamus, Merlin, the Hopis, the Lakota, the Tibetans,all saw/see what will happen in 2012. it’s all bogus?

    Einstein said if Bees disappeared humanity would have about 4 years left.

  • As Albert Einstein once said:

    «Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe.»

    The fact that people who believe in all sorts of superstitious and religious ideas continue to live, reproduce and propagate is the irrefutable confirmation that evolution is blind.

    Gart Valenc
    http://www.stopthewarondrugs.org

  • ezrydn

    As a believer (don’t get your shorts in a wad), I just wonder what part of “No man know the time of my coming except the Father” they DON’T understand????

    Most have never heard of J. Finis Dake. Even if you’re an antagonist, like I used to be, Dake will give you an understanding beyond what you’ve heard before. I’ve placed a torrent online of his stuff @ http://bit.ly/ig7hJl .

    For me, this has all been a joke and we can all have a great laugh TOMORROW! And I’ll be laughing right beside you. There’s a difference between “stupid” and “ignorant.” This “rapture” thing just gushes with Ignorance.

    I wonder how much money people had to give up to get onboard the “rapture train?” Funny, when the actual trip is FREE! LOL

  • ezrydn

    As a believer, I have to ask one stupid question. What part of “No man know the time of my coming but the Father” don’t they understand??????

    Anyone heard the resounding call of a trumpet??? Thought not. Not a convoy, mind you. A Trumpet!!

    What this shows me is there are a lot of, not necessarily “stupid,” but totally “IGNORANT” people out there. I’d rather listen to J. Finis DAKE. Don’t know the name? Here’s a torrent I uploaded: http://bit.ly/ig7hJl

  • ezrydn

    Sorry for multiple post. System hangup.

  • darkcycle

    Favorite bumper sticker:
    “In case of Rapture, can I have your car?”

  • Leonard Junior

    I saw a ghost adventures episode last night with evidence of Nuns whose spirits may still be left on earth. Why should I believe in the rapture today? These nuns should already be in heaven for serving God, right?

  • Cliff

    I’m paraphrasing, No man shall know the hour or the day of Jesus’ return, and anyone who claims to know is a false prophet. Jesus will return like a thief in the night. AFAIK, the Anti-Christ has not appeared yet and he or she will be revealed before JC returns. So in my opinion prophesies like this are only paving the way for the Anti-Christ.

    I wonder how many people have given up everything, jobs, relationships, credit score, and earthly possessions to be ready for the ‘rapture’. I wonder how many lives have been ruined by this information. Where are the fraud charges? Who will make this right?

    I got news for everyone, if you believe in JC, then you better be ready for his return at all times, not when some person tells you to prepare for a certain day. God’s timetable is eternal and forever and can’t be measured by man.

  • Windy

    As a non-believer, I find all this to be very amusing. Especially I support those who have offered to care for the pets left behind.

  • David Marsh

    Rapture – a new cannabis strain that makes you give away all your shit because you saw God.

  • Duncan20903

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    I’m pretty damned disappointed that the Rapture didn’t happen. It would have gotten rid of all of the most annoying religionists and a fairly large percentage of the lesser, but still aggravating ones.

    Has anyone considered that Mr. Lucifer is simply being demonized and that life in Hell is a blast? Paaaaar-ty!

    “I’d rather laugh with the sinners than to cry with the saints.” —Billy Joel

    • darkcycle

      HOLY SHIT!!(OOPS!) Duncan! how did I miss this impending monumental event? Aw, now I really don’t know what to do…I was raised Jewish, so I guess I’m not invited, but….I got a good CATHOLIC education, and all those years of being tortured by nuns and monks has GOT to count for something. WhatdoIdo? Pack a suitcase, and tell my friends who just called I may not make it to the After Party, I’m not sure if I made the list? Hunker down and watch?
      So, no need for a bathing suit, since the EOTW will not involve rain, water or flooding of any sort. Any idea on the means? Just wanna be ready, I will have to run in different directions if it will be earthquakes or fire. Course, I’m not well situated for either, being camped here like I am at the foot of this GIANT FUCKING VOLCANO (..oops again, looks like I may make that After party). Well, if this is the end, nice knowing you folks, it’s been real….uh…interesting. Guess theres no reason to save this last gram of honey oil any longer. *sounds of bubbling and the snorts of supressed coughing*

      • Duncan20903

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        Oh for gosh sakes DC, the predictions that the end is nigh are a dime a dozen.
        http://trickylittleimp.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/end-nigh-cartoon.jpg

        Your brain just tunes them out as gray noise after the first couple of thousand times. So far the only one that even made me nervous was the Y2K computer date glitch. But that one was at least plausible, especially to a guy like me who was programming IBM 360-65 back in the early 1980s using a very large deck of punch cards which had to be turned over to the tech to become input. Man that computer was bigger than a bloody school bus. There was tons of legacy code that was still being used in 1999. Oh well all’s well that ends well.
        http://www.virtualizados.com/uploads/IBM_360.102635892.lg.jpg

        I really was ready to buy several guns “just in case” but my wife put the kibosh on that idea. It worked out though, had I woken up the next morning with thousands of dollars of now worthless guns and ammo to dispose of it would have made me grumpy.

        If the kooks couldn’t get that one right, why in the world should we believe them when they claim to have such and such on the word of a Good Fairy in the sky?

        IIRC 144,000 Jews have a reservation in Heaven. 12 tribes of Israel with 12,000 citizens in each of the individual I’m shocked that I remembered that. I did not recall that it was in from Revelations. Whoever wrote that particular book is one sick puppy, no doubt. There’s at least 2 other instances of the number 144,000 in Revelations.

        The New York Times issued a correction of getting cocaine’s scheduling wrong:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/22/pageoneplus/corrections.html

    • aussidawg

      “I’d rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.” – Captain James T. Kirk, Commander, Starship U.S.> Enterprize (aka William Shattner of Priceline.com

      • kaptinemo

        Actually, the reawakened Eugenics War tyrant Khan was referring to Milton’s poem “Pardise Lost” where Lucifer says that to God. Kirk, having read the poem in his youth, understood the context.

        Having an eidetic memory is a real pain sometimes; you remember the useless crap as much as the important stuff…

  • darkcycle

    Aw guys and girls, we needed this, too late for rush delivery…
    http://rapturedetector.com/

    • darkcycle

      Oh! We’re in luck, It’s a smart phone App. Wait! I have to run get a smartphone!

  • darkcycle

    Hey? …anybody out there…Hello? Hmmm…note to self….bad sign. Wait…christian neighbor is out mowing his lawn. Should I go over and tell him “tough luck”?
    Now I really don’t know what to do.

  • Bill

    What does Harold Camping and Cicada’s have in common? They both come out every 17 years, and make an irritating noise. And if you are in his church tomorrow, be careful when you are sipping from the communion cup… It may be kool-aid…

  • Duncan20903

    Police in Florida say they have recovered a marijuana pipe and a woman’s identity from the body cavities of suspects arrested in separate incidents earlier this month.

    Deputies from the Lee County Sheriff’s Office busted 46-year-old Ann Hernandez for making over $5,000 of purchases using a fraudulent credit card and another woman’s driver’s license—both of which were found in the suspect’s vagina.

    http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-suspect-accused-of-stealing-womans-identity-hiding-it-in-her-vagina/

    ———- Res Ipsa Loquitur. ———-

  • ezrydn

    Well, It’s Sunday, the 22nd. Evidently, the main man didn’t get the memo. No news of mass disappearances. Just one church group that’s ashamed to come out into the light. Cockroaches, plain and simple.

  • kaptinemo

    Sumerians wrote on cuneiform tablets 5,000 years ago that the world was ending ‘real soon’. I wonder if the guys who wrote that made money off of that same old scam, too…

  • kaptinemo

    Nope, what really worries me are the people who got p*ssed that Yeshua didn’t show up for the party some of His believers planned for in 2000, and figured they’d joggle the Almighty’s elbow and remind Him about the ‘wars and rumors of wars’ that were supposed to herald the Apocalypse and their anticipated ‘Rapture’ – by starting a few wars of their own.

    Guess they were trying to shame God for His supposed tardiness…

  • he miscalculated the date: 11 days were dropped from the calendar in 1752 which he didn’t take into account. so the *real* day he should have picked for his prediction is jun 1. shhhhhhh, don’t tell anyone.

  • darkcycle

    I guess the people who sold their homes, quit their jobs and gave their money away are a little disappointed right about now. As the reverend said: “There is no plan B”
    I know these poor people were duped and destroyed by this guy, and it is not funny in the least. I guess I’m not going when the rapture comes around because I cannot stop laughing. At least he didn’t tell them all to buy matching Nike Runners.

  • stevo

    The world does not end at the same time for everyone. It ends for each of us, individually, at the time of our death.

  • Duncan20903

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    Snoop Dogg got caught smoking in the boys room and was expelled by the high school’s principal.

    http://www.rttnews.com/Content/EntertainmentNews.aspx?Section=2&Id=1629185&SM=1

    No fooling.

  • denmark

    Many people love God and in that love there is predictable confusion. The church’s have completely mutilated anything and everything that was written for those seeking guidance and counsel. Our moral leaders, via the priest-craft, have twisted, turned, and thrown the baby out with the bath water, so yes, this is understandable.
    Do not agree with them but do understand their confusion and desire to be with God.
    …….
    My college Geography teacher who was a snob and really smart, so the being smart ruined the snob part I wanted to dislike, said something I’ll never forget. “The earth will be fine, it can heal itself, it’s mankind that I’m worried about.”
    …….
    Prediction: 433,000 years left for this Universe. Give or take a few thousand.

  • Servetus

    Disappointed apocalypsers should cheer up. It’s not like it’s the end of the world.

  • DdC

    Jesus is the Anti-Christ.

    No one has the right to vengeance on Christians more than the man who had his identity stolen by them. His name said in vein by them. His “christ” title given without his acceptance or understanding. Their laws against natural substances. Their wars in his name. No group is more likely to end up in the lake of crude oil fire than devout Christians. The dude turned down the title of King of Jews because it is nothing more than a BS status symbol. The one upping other religions is not coming closer to god. Killing people sharing the same God is also what Christians do and what Jesus spoke against. Give away all of your money and land and then come follow me. Let’s see the Koch roaches get out of that one. As for no one will know the hour or day. They are human inventions and have nothing to do with nature or natural forces. Anymore than what car will he be driving. Jesus is coming and boy is he pissed!

    Entheogenic plants have always been around. The church being the primary prohibitionists. The first prohibition was in the garden for similar reasons to the Church banning Ganja. Because the young novices were finding God without the Priests, job security. God banned the tree of knowledge but not the tree of life. To keep the kids from it he tossed them out of the garden. All white powders, including LSD is about money. The entire psychedelic scene was to sell records, paraphernalia and news stories. From tye dyes to day glow sold to kids looking for happiness. Natural substances like Ganja, Shrooms, Datura and Ibogaine and Ayahuasca were blends of various roots. Cocaine is a white powder the same as heroin and speed. Coca leaves provide a totally different use than snorting. Opium for pain is different than synthesized morphine. Power plants are a threat to the AMA, Big Pharma and the Church. So just kick back and enjoy God’s gifts but watch out for humans protecting their plastic lives with orders and bogus laws.

    Judas was the only true follower, the rest of the schmucks were groupies. Couldn’t even stay awake to let the man go out with some dignity. Denied knowing him. Doubting. Then the bible wasn’t even written by anyone knowing him. Saul/Paul was a Roman. The Sanhedrin were a Jewish court system of elitist Jews, then poof born again? Jesus is the Anti-Christ because the Roman fascists and the wealthy Jews created Christianity for the same old reasons, cheap labor and profit = power. Nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus anymore than Christmas shopping has to do with Jesus. It isn’t always what is written, it’s what is not written. By Archeology discovering Hemp as a staple and Ganja used without shame in the area. Then to not find a word in the bible, tells volumes. Same as the Dead Sea Scrolls bringing new info. Same as Galileo… The politicks in religion are the same as the politicks conducting the Ganjawar. Jesus refused the title of King of the Jews as well as a one-up to Christ. Titles designate superiority and all of God’s children are equal in the eyes of the Lord. God has absolutely no respect for humans or their inventions, including religion. The very things the Fascist “Christians” worship. With no regard to what their inventions do to what God created or even to the lives of other humans. So logically it would be the Christians that are the ones being tossed into the burning sea of OPEC crud. If anyone deserves to be pissed its Jesus over the moneysluts taking his name, his story and his teachings and bastardizing them to be the opposite. Profit selling Prophets.

    Blasphemy

    Archeology: Hashish Incense, did Jesus inhale?

    Latest Hypocritical GOPerversion, another Prohibition!

    Pro Life? Not even anti abortionists!

    Koch Roaches A.L.E.C. Drug Detention Centers

    “The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves…these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.”
    ~ Thomas Jefferson

  • … and me… I head out to the road thinking there’d be a plethora of abandoned cars. O’ course w/ the end of the world and all who needs pants? Right?

    Needless to say, just call me blushing in Oregon.

    Boy, that’s the last time I fall for the old “it’s-the-end-of-the-world” schtick. Lesson learned? Absolutely… pants on at the next rapture alert!

    • Duncan20903

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      Are you that guy that likes to walk around naked in his yard? Around here you can’t even get away with making coffee in the buff at 6 AM in your own kitchen.

      http://www.sodahead.com/living/man-arrested-in-own-home-for-making-coffee-nude-is-he-innocent/question-691627/?page=28

      • my nearest neighbors are 1/2 mile away so making coffee in the buff isn’t a problem… while they may not complain my teen kids might… heh! So no, not naked in my yard or even whilst brewing my java but I’ll skinny dip in Oregon’s creeks and hot springs most of the year (hot springs at anytime of the year). And I swear, the best place to smoke herb? Hotsprings…

        And yes I’m another of those that have to give thanks to Christians for these occasional moments of public humiliation – it does make for some great humor. It was a hard lesson for me to learn as a sprout that every social, ethnic, religious, professional, cultural group has their bubbas and sometimes the light falls right on ’em, for all to see in their brazen bubbaness.

      • darkcycle

        Allan, you out by Cougar hotsprings by chance? Used to go there when the DEAD were playing in Eugene, awesome place, always full of trippin’ Deadheads.

      • Yeppers I’m in that area (NW Eugene, out in the country) but locally I preefer McCeady Hotsprings, up Hwy 58. My fave tho’ is Fisher Hotsprings in southern Oregon’s high desert, it was only 1/2 mile from the ranch I was rehabbing for The Nature Conservancy and oh so i-so-lated. Awesome in the snow…

  • Windy

    DdC, “Let’s see the Koch roaches get out of that one.”

    That would be funny except the Koch brother’s name is pronounced “coke”. Coke roaches? Didn’t know they liked the stuff.

    From Radley Balko’s blog:
    http://www.theagitator.com/2011/05/20/another-day-of-red-vs-blue/
    Bonus: The article links Arianna Huffington to Soros. Which I think means that during my two weeks of vacation, I magically transmogrified from a paid right-wing hack for the Koch brothers, to a paid left-wing hack for George Soros. And all without changing my position on a single issue. Ta-dah!

    • DdC

      I’ve heard it pronounced several ways,
      Roaches love coke or anything sweet.
      I’ve only experienced Palmetto Bugs.
      NY mayor Koch, rhymes with crotch.
      Koch itch, Kocheads, Kochknockers, Leeches, Fascists, Traitors, all work for me. Not literally work for me. A blight on humanity. Cheaters, Swindlers, Liars and Thieves all fit. Pseudolibertarianists. Welfare Rats, Tax deadbeats. Drug worriers, car salesmen, shysters, soul less dipshits? Killers and Child abusers, Abortionists killing more babies than RvW. Small Business Owners taking in a paltry $21 billion. Charging $72,000.00 for private cages housing pot growers. Plus tax on the workers. Tax shelters in Philanthropy, same as John Pee Walters. Fabricating Smithsonian History. Now the USSConstitution has crude oil plastic sails while climate change and evolution fall back to opinion. Hpw do you dunk a teabag. Tell them what they want to hear. Just get elected is what matters. Shake and bake and you halped.

      Exclusive: Who is David Barton?

      Boycott Koch Industry Products!

      How can the Koch’s be against prohibition when they profit so many ways on prohibition? Oh they don’t. They just say what you want to hear.

      It has become increasingly clear that Koch Industries is the money source behind the 2010 GOP landslide as well as behind Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, their favored Tea Party candidate.

      Koch Industries wants to end the strong and decades old public employees’ unions.

      For 30 years the GOP has mounted a concerted effort (and with extraordinary success) to get rid of unions around the country. Their target is now public employees’ unions, as we see in Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, Ohio and other states.

      Cheap labor = More profit.
      Outsourcing or Wage Busting,
      like a living wage is Un American?

      Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits. At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant: Koch Interests…

      GOPerverted Koch Roaches Need the Drug War for Profit
      Boehner & Cantor expose their ties to ALEC, Koch, CCA, Geo in 09 ALEC speeches! Got ALEC?

      Koch Roaches A.L.E.C. Drug Detention Centers

      Gasoline:

      Chevron or Hemp car
      Union or Hemp oil lubricants, paints, plastic
      Union 76 or Hemp ethanol
      Conoco or Hemp Biodiesel

      Koch Industry/Georgia-Pacific Products:

      Angel Soft toilet paper or Hemp with more cellulose and no bleech
      Brawny paper towels or Hemp with 4x more yield
      Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups now floating in the ocean
      Mardi Gras napkins and towels or Hemp paper
      Quilted Northern toilet paper by killing trees that produce thousands of gallons of fresh water and tons of oxygen while removing carbon dioxide unless you kill them for unnecessary greed.
      Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper from dead trees
      Sparkle napkins or less trash re-use Hemp cloth
      Vanity fair napkins or Hemp organic cotton blends
      Zee napkins or Hemp fine linen or towels

      Koch Industry/Invista Products:

      COMFOREL® fiberfill or Hemp hurds
      COOLMAX® fabric or Oldest fabric is Hemp
      CORDURA® fabric or Non toxic Hemp carpet
      DACRON® fiber or Crude oil or Hemp without chemicals poisoning firemen.
      POLYSHIELD® resin or Henry Fords Hemp Soy auto body 10 times more resistant than sheetmetal.
      SOLARMAX® fabric or Hemp blue jeans shirts hats shoes socks jackets homegrown
      SOMERELLE® bedding products or Hemp silk blends
      STAINMASTER® carpet or Pursian rugs were Hemp, tapistry and nontoxic carpet. Hemp stalks were used to rid mattresses of bedbugs.
      SUPPLEX® fabric or more keeping competition off the market with prohibition.
      TACTEL® fiber or Hemp has greater tensile strength than trees or cotton,
      TACTESSE® carpet fiber or Hemp carpets can be grown in all 50 states, not OPEC
      TERATE® polyols or anything from Hydrocarbon fossil fools can be from Carbohydrate Homegrown Veggie Oils
      TERATHANE® polyether glycol
      THERMOLITE® fabric or Hemp
      PHENREZ® resin or natural resins
      POLARGUARD® fiber and
      LYCRA® fiber or Hemp Seed, the most nutritionally complete food on the planet.

      Georgia Pacific Building products

      Dense Armor Drywall and Decking or Hemp wood
      ToughArmor Gypsum board or Hemp with greater tensile, yield and cellulose
      Georgia pacific Plytanium Plywood or Hemp plywood that doesn’t destroy ecosystems like clearcutting does.

      Koch Industry Flexrock, Glass-reinforced Gypsum (GRG), Densglass sheathing, Nautilus Wall Sheathing, Regular Fiberboard Sheathing, Structural Fiberboard Sheathing, Thermostat OSB Radiant Barrier Sheathing, G/P Industrial plasters, Agricultural Plaster, Arts & Crafts Plaster, Dental Plaster, General Purpose Plaster, Industrial Tooling Plaster, Investment Casting Plaster, Medical Plaster, Metal Casting Plaster, Pottery Plaster, FibreStrong Rim board, G/P Lam board, Blue Ribbon OSB Rated Sheathing, Blue Ribbon Sub-floor, DryGuard Enhanced OSB, Broadspan Engineered Wood Products, XJ 85 I-Joists, FireDefender Banded Cores, FireDefender FS, FireDefender Mineral Core, Hardboard and Thin MDF including Auto Hardboard, Perforated Hardboard and Thin MDF, Wood Fiberboard, Commercial Roof Fiberboard, Hushboard Sound Deadening Board

      OR

      Practical, inexpensive fire-resistant construction material, with excellent thermal and sound-insulating qualities, is made by heating and compressing plant fibers to creat strong construction paneling, replacing dry wall and plywood. William B. Conde of Conde’s Redwood Lumber, Inc. near Eugene, Oregon, in conjunction with Washington State University (1991-1993), has demonstrated the superior strength, flexibility, and economy of hemp composite building materials compared to wood fiber, even as beams.

      Isochanvre, a rediscovered French building material made from hemp hurds mixed with lime, actually petrifies into a mineral state and lasts for many centuries. Archeologists have found a bridge in the south of France, from the Merovingian period (500-751 A.D.), built with this process. (See Chenevotte habitat of Rene, France in Appendix I.)

      Hemp has been used throughout history for carpet backing. Hemp fiber has potential in the manufacture of strong, rot resistant carpeting – eliminating the poisonous fumes of burning synthetic materials in a house or commercial fire, along with allergic reactions associated with new synthetic carpeting.

      Plastic plumbing pipe (PVC pipes) can be manufactured using renewable hemp cellulose as the chemical feedstocks, replacing non-renewable coal or petroleum-based chemical feedstocks.

      So we can envision a house of the future built, plumbed, painted and furnished with the world’s number-one renewable resource – hemp.

      Ganja//Hemp

      A Brief Summary of the Uses of Hemp

      H/T Boycott and Defeat Koch Industries
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  • Windy

    I gotta say I want to see the public employee unions ended, too. You want to belong to a union? Then work in the private sector, not in the government. Government employee unions are a major part of the reason government has become too expensive for the people to support anymore.

    • darkcycle

      That’s absurd. The idea that paying a living wage and allowing workers to bargain collectively is the reason we can’t pay our bills is hogwash. We give giant tax breaks to the richest Americans, allow our corporations to get away with paying almost no taxes at all, we wage wars we don’t even include in the budget and we have no way, nor any intention of paying for, and somehow TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, DOGCATCHERS and STREETSWEEPERS and are to blame for our troubles?? C’mon, Windy.

    • DdC

      I just don’t get it and I hope I never do. How can someone fight against an individual smoking pot? Especially for medicinal reasons. That isn’t even logical. To intervene between a doctor and patient. How can cops paid by taxes, take political sides? Or influence medical decisions and legislation. How can anyone protest clean air and water? Or a living wage for working class Americans. Try to legislate what a woman should choose. Or blame those with less, for a debt bailing out the rich? Or waging two police actions costing a trillion bucks each. Then tell seniors they get a coupon for health care after gutting medicaid. Why would these red flags go unnoticed? Vested ignorance?

      Living wages are spent locally. With or without Unions. Corporate profits aren’t. Workers pay for the deadbeat rich shelters in the Caymans. Or oil spills in Alaska and the Gulf. Workers pay for the roads used and worn out by corporations, sheltered in the Caymans. Tax paid teachers, care providers, nurses and mothers receiving aid for dependent children, all spend it locally. Creating local jobs and profits and taxes for local roads and parks. Corporations outsource it and aren’t local and may not even pay tax.

      Regulations are for people’s health. Environmental or Workers safety. Food safety or weight and measures standards. All seem thankful for these tax burdens. Taxes can do good things. So can we the people government. Only greed or massive retardation would protest clean water and air or unsafe work conditions or sick people smoking Ganja. Corporatist buzzwords are propaganda for their profits.

      Unions assist workers in speaking out for fair wages and conditions. Blaming them for a living wage so their families can be fed and sheltered with one job. Letting the parents have more time with the kids. Less time for trouble. Less expense for child care and society benefits. Letting politicians vote out unions and settling for low wages and poor conditions while complaining about others getting fairness, is also very disturbing behavior. The field slaves complaining about the house slaves, didn’t stop slavery. Nothing wrong with CEO’s making good salaries unless its by slave labor or cutting safeguards. Money or Corporations are included in the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is not supposed to be overturned by radical judges legislating from the bench. Especially the Supreme Court. Got Impeachment?

      First they came for the communists,
      and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

      Then they came for the trade unionists,
      and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

      Then they came for the Jews,
      and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

      Then they came for the Ganja tokers,
      and I didn’t speak out because I didn’t toke.

      Then they came for me
      and there was no one left to speak out.

  • darkcycle

    p.s. The fascists ALWAYS come after the trade unions FIRST. I do believe this would be the opening salvo.

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