Do Cheech and Chong roll his joints?

A Senator talking about marijuana… “Two ounces. Just two ounces is equivalent to three joints.”

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15 Responses to Do Cheech and Chong roll his joints?

  1. 2 oz = 3 joints? dude needs a better dealer

  2. Hey Pete!

    One of my window cleaning customers is an old friend of yours… David Lee-Painter, now in Moscow.


  3. Servetus says:

    The clueless Republican Senator Warren Limmer of Minnesota’s 37th District, who authored a 2012 Minnesota constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage that was rejected by voters, as well as anti-pot crusader Kevin Sabet, likely have something in common when it comes to weed. Both appear to have religiously-biased oppositions to marijuana.

    Kevin Sabet belongs to a Muslim sect — a splinter group known as Baháʼí that opposes the use of recreational cannabis. About 29-percent of white evangelical Protestants and about 50-percent of Catholics oppose its use. Religions with prohibitions against intoxicants in general such as Buddhism, Baháʼí, and Latter-day Saints (Mormons) oppose cannabis except when prescribed by a doctor. Other religious groups have opposed the liberalization of cannabis laws.

    What is fascinating about Baháʼí is that it split off from Sufism, a Muslim sect that traditionally exalted in the use of marijuana for ascetic reasons. The history of Sufism while under colonial British control is laced with the Victorian morality of the time opposing its use because hashish was seen as not fitting well with British capitalism. A problem for Sufi acceptance of marijuana prohibition is that cannabis cannot be defined as an “intoxicant” the same way alcohol can.

    From an article by Hammad Khan, Pass that chillum: Why is pot-smoking so common at Sufi shrines and why is it frowned upon? Colonialism and modernity turned hashish from a gateway to transcendence into one of degradation:

    …In Pakistan, Qalandariyya traces its roots to the 13th century saint, Sayyid Uthman Marwandi (d. 1274), popularly revered as Lal Shahbaz Qalandar. Qalandars, faqirs and malangs, as “holy men”, operated in relative autonomy from the norms of social institutions. Such radical embodiment of asceticism and renunciation came increasingly under attack with the advent of modernity through European colonialism.

    Nile Green notes that through colonial laws, moral and scientific discourses, modernity displaced the foundations of Qalandariyya as constitutive and representative of Islamic values. The capitalist ethos of the colonialists could not accommodate the values of asceticism, and in turn, sought to de-emphasise Islamic valourisation and understanding of “voluntary poverty” and homelessness. Reducing it to its material aspect, poverty was characterised not as symbolic of spiritual wealth, but as evidence of the downfall of Muslim societies.

    Victorian morality denigrated hashish as “profane”, opposed to “religion”. It conveniently conflated Islam with colonial conceptions of religion. Colonial critics criticised faqirs’ drug use, and explained the behaviour as “not the result of devotion to and absorption in God, but instead as the voluntary degradation of the work-shy addict”. Scientific discourse was also instrumental in associating drug use with criminality and insanity, through efforts such as the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission of 1893-1894.

    Colonial construction and representation of qalandars and faqirs as symptomatic of the decay of Muslim society was, in turn, fundamental in justifying the moral authority of the colonial order. Muslim reformers of the 19th and 20th centuries – troubled by the eclipse of Muslim rule in the Indian subcontinent and elsewhere – embraced colonial criticism against Muslims practicing corrupted and denigrated forms of Islam. The decay of Muslim political rule was explained through the anti-work ethic, antinomian practices, and other-worldly piety of qalandars and faqirs. Seeking to reform Islam to bring it in harmony with the modernist values of progress, reason, and law, Muslim reformers marginalised those modes of religiosity and piety which protested against such a worldview. […]

  4. Spade Dude says:

    Three Camberwell Carrots = at least two oz.

  5. Servetus says:

    The long sought marijuana breathalyzer is still a long way from realization. The government wants a technology to test drivers for recent cannabis consumption (within one hour) the way drivers are currently tested using a handheld device for alcohol consumption. Timing is key to success, as marijuana’s effects wear off rapidly compared to alcohol. The goals were not met even when bulky, ultrasensitive equipment and methods were used to analyze breath samples:

    22-MAY-2023 — …developing a breathalyzer for cannabis is far more difficult than for alcohol, which people exhale in large amounts when drinking. In contrast, the intoxicating component of cannabis, called THC, is thought to be carried inside aerosol particles that people exhale. The total volume of aerosols can be very small, making it difficult to accurately measure their THC content. Currently, there is no standard method for doing this.

    Now, researchers at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the University of Colorado Boulder have conducted a study in which they collected breath samples from people both before and after they smoked high-THC cannabis … and used laboratory instruments (not a handheld device) to measure the amount of THC in their breath. The goal of this study … was to begin developing a protocol that yields reproducible results — a necessary step toward a reliable, validated field-based method. […]

    We expected to see higher THC concentrations in the breath samples collected an hour after people used,” Lovestead said. However, THC levels spanned a similar range across pre-use and post-use samples. “In many cases, we would not have been able to tell whether the person smoked within the last hour based on the concentration of THC in their breath.”

    This study was funded by a grant from the Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice. NIJ has also awarded the research team an additional grant of $1.5 million over three years to continue its research. The next study will involve at least 40 participants providing more than a thousand breath samples. That should give the results more statistical heft.

    “A lot more research is needed to show that a cannabis breathalyzer can produce useful results,” said NIST materials research engineer and co-author Kavita Jeerage. “A breathalyzer test can have a huge impact on a person’s life, so people should have confidence that the results are accurate.” […]

    NIST Science News Release: Researchers analyze THC in breath of cannabis smokers: Distinguishing between recent use and past use remains an elusive goal.

    Journal of Breath Research: THC in breath aerosols collected with an impaction filter device before and after legal-market product inhalation—a pilot study

    Kavita M Jeerage, Cheryle N Beuning, Adam J Friss, L Cinnamon Bidwell and Tara M Lovestead.

    • NorCalNative says:

      The body gets rid 0f toxic alcohol, and stores non-toxic cannabinoids in fatty tissue. Fuck what’s in the breath and test for impairment. Raise your hand if you’ve owned vehicles with sunroofs to let the smoke out.

  6. Servetus says:

    Research conducted in San Francisco on psilocybin treatment for depression indicates its use does not interfere with or complicate the use of other antidepressants:

    25-MAY-2023 — Withdrawing from antidepressants likely won’t affect how well psilocybin works for treatment-resistant depression, according to a phase IIb randomized controlled trial.

    In an analysis of 233 participants treated with a single dose of the investigational psilocybin treatment COMP360, there was a similar improvement in depression symptoms regardless of whether or not the patients withdrew from their antidepressants or antipsychotics reported Guy Goodwin, MD, chief medical officer of COMPASS Pathway in London, which is developing the product…The findings also suggest that withdrawal from antidepressants is safe when initiating psilocybin treatment…

    Tested in three different dosage strengths, all participants reaped a significant benefit in total Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) score from baseline to 3 weeks after treatment:

    25-mg dose: -12.2 (95% CI -16.1 to -8.2) for withdrawers vs -11.8 (95% CI -16.8 to -6.7) for continuers

    10-mg dose: -8.5 (95% CI -12.2 to -4.7) for withdrawers vs -9.6 (95% CI -13.6 to -5.5) for continuers

    1-mg dose: -6.4 (95% CI -9.9 to -3.0) for withdrawers vs -7.4 (95% CI -12.8 to -2.1) for continuers

    Goodwin added that his group is also currently conducting phase II clinical studies of COMP360 psilocybin therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder and anorexia nervosa. […]

    MedPage Today: Psilocybin Works Just as Well for Depression With or Without Antidepressant — No evidence of benefit in continuing antidepressants, researcher says

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