Happy Holidays

Wonderful holiday wishes to all Drug WarRant readers, and especially to the regular couch-mates who make this place special.

I just finished my last day of work yesterday, and look forward to discovering what retirement will bring. But first, I’m hitting the road for the holidays to visit family and friends.

For those sticking around, there’s some of Alton Brown’s aged eggnog in the refrigerator (make sure Matt doesn’t O.D. on it), and I believe there’s still a fruitcake being used as a doorstop (and no, Mr_Alex, it wasn’t made by the Semblers, so it’s OK).

Have a great time. I’ll stop in during the holidays when I can.

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129 Responses to Happy Holidays

  1. divadab says:

    Thanks, Pete, for the gift that keeps giving – honest, open, intelligent drug reform debate. Enjoy your retirement – there is a strange paradox of retirement – you have less free time than when you were working!

    My solution is to keep working – just on projects that don;t necessarily pay. Lots of these to go around…..

  2. NorCalNative says:

    Pete, congrats on your retirement. Somehow I suspect teaching was never “work” for you. All of us here owe you a great deal of praise for your persistence and interests.

    Divadab nailed it, “honest, open, intelligent drug reform debate.”

    Pushing society towards harm reduction rocks and you’ve played an important part in that. Thanks dude.

  3. claygooding says:

    Leave the fruitcake where it is,,unknown source and unknown age.

    Merry Christmas gang,,hope Santa doesn’t eat all your cookies.

    PS: I see the DOJ has suspended property seizures,,waiting for confirmation and more info on it.

  4. Frank W. says:

    That fruitcake tasted alright when I licked it.

  5. primus says:

    Hey Pete now that you have joined me in the retirement brigade why not join me as I explore S.E. Asia? I will be here until March 30 so you have time. Reply here and we can exchange contact info if you are interested.

  6. Swooper says:

    Congratulations on your retirement, Pete! I hope you enjoy doing whatever you are gonna do now that you aren’t working.

    Meanwhile, Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all here. I see the great Northeast is experiencing a heat wave…too late for a white Christmas. But watch out for tornadoes!!!!
    14 in Mississippi last night. The Red Cross is responding but could use financial help!

    I would like to issue a challenge to all on the couch – make a donation to help pay for the hosting of DWR. Big, little, makes no difference, every bit helps, and Pete won’t have a huge paycheck coming in now. (Well, huge probably isn’t the word…our educators are notoriously underpaid)

  7. DonDig says:

    Pete and all,

    Happy Holidays!

    Thanks for hosting a place on the net where discussion is civil and more intelligent than anything else I’ve encountered anyway.

    All the best to you all!

  8. DdC says:

    Ethan Nadelmann ‏@ethannadelmann
    #Colombia Pres @JuanManSantos signs decree to legalize #medicalmarijuana http://gu.com/p/4fayk/stw A very positive development in LatAmerica!


    Happy Holidays Coachers…

    • claygooding says:

      And another country sets up in preparation of the legal MMJ market that will develop as several northern European countries are sending out queries on MMJ available too import so they avoid having to grow it themselves.

      They recognize the medical value and need for the medicine but probably want to avoid the high costs associated with indoor grows,,a must in those regions.

      More science like the recent study that reported tomatoes grown under HID/LED/sunlight all produced the same levels of nutrients, acids and flavor chemicals in them,,cause what works for the mater works for the weed.
      LEDS reduce energy consumption by 3/4 but may require more heat in an indoor/greenhouse grow.

      Still no test on CFL’s which reduce energy consumption by 2/3 but usually produce enough heat to help keep the grow warm,,without burning the plants up.

      I have learned the hard way that it is addictive to learn how to grow cannabis,,and it causes you to read science shit nobody else gives a shit about.

  9. Mr_Alex says:

    Kevin Sabet’s sychophants are out in force tonight trying to defend their bosses shattered reputation, their claim is now if Kevin Sabet did work with DFAF it was innoncent, working for them and knowing about the abuse that happened at Straight Inc before they changed their name to Drug Free America Foundation is already speaking volumes these prohibs are desperate big time as they have been linked to supporting Betty and Melvin Sembler and their sadistc practices. They are also claiming Maia Szalavitz did a unfair interview on Kevin Sabet when she found DFAF’s 2007 and 2008 documents which the DFAF have tried desperately to hide but can be found on google’s cached search, Kevin Sabet i warned you your past with Betty and Melvin Sembler will come back and bite you where you least expect it, it is doing so now, i am going to enjoy watching you collapse into oblivion as you admitted to knowing Robert DuPont, Jeb Bush, Betty and Melvin Sembler, Barry McCaffery and Father Cassian Newton aka Virgil Miller Newton, why should we believe what you are saying Kevin, you already demonstrated that you lied to Maia Szalavitz as well, also Kevin Sabet you are known by the company you keep.

    Also merry christmas drugwarrant commenters

  10. Fruitcake says:

    America is a fascist country! There is no other country on the planet that jails casual potheads like The Great Satan ™! America is home to redneck backwoods states like Colorado, home of those gross right-wing creators of South Park! I am just happy that countries like Sweden and France exist, great liberal bastions of freedom where I can buy weed from a store and roll a joint without fear of being harrassed by authorities! Can you even imagine doing something like that in Colorado, home of the gun nut spree killers?

    Happy Holidays!

  11. InKushWeTrust says:

    Merry Christmas to all and Happy Retirement to Pete!

  12. DdC says:

    The hypocrisy is astounding…

    Approving a tariff of $25 per gun
    and 2 or 5 cents per round of ammunition for sellers.

    Judge Rules Gun Dealers May Have to Pay For Crimes
    Committed With Weapons They Sell

    Seattle Mayor Ed Murray said he believes this victory will help spur future change. “For too long, we have had insufficient research and data on gun violence to help guide our response. We will now have critical funding to advance our work on gun-violence research and prevention,” Murray said.

    NRA vows “More Whining!”

    More Young Americans Now Die From Guns Than Cars

    For decades, the most dangerous
    piece of machinery was an automobile.

    But now, it’s a gun.

    More than 32,000 people per year
    are killed by guns in the United States.

    Their priorities seem to be askew…

    Fighting for guns, against healthcare. For the pre-born, against the new born. Booze and Pills over Nature. Chemical cotton poisons over Hemp. Chemicals and Frankenfud over Organic food. Crude oil spilled on their shores, while Big Guv is cleaning it up. With more tax dollars not paid with loopholes. All for, spending another trillion dollars eradicating Pot, while voting for the same people, cutting their food stamps. Outsourcing their Jobs, Blowing up their mountains. Fouling their air and dumping in their waters. So taking swift action, they deregulate and downsize EPA. Put cronyism clowns to head Science and Justice policy. Religionists protecting us from religionists. To Terrorize sinners for god. Saveding us from going to hell, by bringing it here. First to Jerk that plastic red white and blue banner sending out of work kids off to Trumped up Oil wars, Banners made in China, from Iran and Iraqi oil. By sweaty kids, to give MalWart’s Everyday Low Low Wages. Buying the enemy bullets, isn’t very prudent at this juncture. Then when they return with hell in their brains. These NRA gun totin’ Sons a Bushes put them in prison, for treating their PTSD, infringing on fat pharma profits.

    Shays’ Rebellion 1786 and 1787 wiki
    Militia general William Shepard defended
    the Springfield Armory against rebel action.

    Whiskey Rebellion 1791 (Insurrection) wiki
    With 13,000 militiamen provided by the governors
    of Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania,

    Why do these “rebels” call themselves militia?

    Not Totally PURE Heroin Deaths Are Surging,
    But Deadliest Drugs Still Come In Pill Bottles

    0 people have been killed from smoking pot since FOREVER…
    Warning: Anticdote for overdose.
    Strong Coffee, order a pizza, sleep it off.

    The hypocrisy is mind-boggling…

    The Toughest Marijuana Laws in the United States Russ Belville

    Texas: any amount of hashish or hash oil on your person can get you a felony with six months to two years in prison. Over a gram can get you ten years and over 4 grams can get you 20 years.

    Florida is just as draconian on the hashish, with a five-year felony for possession of any amount. Possession of just 21 grams of cannabis flower is also a five-year felony in Florida. Any felony conviction means Floridians lose their right to vote, essentially for life. 1-in-5 African-Americans in Florida cannot vote.

    Georgia, any possession of hash is also a felony. Mandatory minimum one year in a Georgia prison. In addition, Georgia has a metabolite per se DUID law, which means if you’re suspected of driving impaired and you fail a urine test for marijuana metabolites, you’re guilty of DUI, whether you were actually impaired or not. You’ll get a mandatory one day and up to one year in jail, mandatory 40 hours community service, mandatory 20 hours drug program that costs $250, and a year’s probation.

    Oklahoma, any amount of marijuana flower in your possession can subject you to one year in prison and your second offense can get you a ten year felony. But if you’re converting your marijuana into concentrate – even finger hash or a kief box would count – you’ve committed a felony that can earn you a life sentence in prison. Oklahoma also recently passed a metabolite per se DUID law that gets you 10 days to 1 year in jail on a first offense and a ten-year felony on the second.

    Arizona, where possession of any marijuana, hash or flower, is a felony earning you 4 months to 2 years in prison with a $150,000 fine. Arizona also has that metabolite per se DUID, which will get you jail for 10 to 180 days, probation for 5 years, and driver’s license suspension for 90 days.

    Utah, which also has a metabolite per se DUID law. There you will serve a mandatory minimum 2 days in jail, mandatory 48 hours community service, and can even be forced into marijuana rehab that you have to pay for.

    Since marijuana metabolites can stay in the system of a heavy cannabis consumer up to 30 days, you’d better avoid driving in those states above and others,

    Wyoming, Idaho, and New Jersey, merely being high can land you in a cell. Being under the influence of marijuana in public gets you a potential 6 month misdemeanor in those states. How do they determine that? If your eyes are red, you smell like weed, and you fail a pee test,

    South Dakota. That state has the country’s only “internal possession” law, which means that their misdemeanor penalty for possession of 2 ounces of cannabis or less also applies to the metabolites of marijuana in your body.

    The hypocrisy is phenomenal…

    • B. Snow says:

      Sorry but I have to call bullshit on the ‘guns now kill more young people than cars’ nonsense.

      First guns are made to deal out damage to people (for various reasons), to put-down animals that either pose a danger to people or are destined to become dinner, and target/sport shooting.
      And arguably other things = as a deterrent to would be aggressors/thieves, as conversation pieces/collectables, to impart a sense of security to people in remote places or densly populated notably ‘high-crime’ areas… It’s expected that there will (quite possibly) be violence associated with or related to them!

      Cars are meant for transportation, whether long distance, or young people driving them up & down Main Street, or competitively at ludicrous speeds in large (often oval) tracks…

      Now, Given their size/weight and possible speed of travel – there’s some expectation of possible accidental harm. But that’s Not one of it’s intended (possible) functions/uses = Trying to weigh them as similar products that cause harm to people at comparable rates is deliberately ignorant… Or outright intentionally deceptive.

      More importantly IMO is that not at a minor unmentioned and often intentionally obfuscated note that the “Gun Violence” statistic includes suicides = which make up about two-thirds (66%) of these ‘gun deaths’.

      And the gun control people knowingly continue to include those numbers.

      Which is arguably worse than Kev-Kev admitting that they knew cracking down on pain pills would lead to a spike in heroin use and saying,

      “We always were concerned about heroin,” said Kevin Sabet, a former senior drug policy official in the Obama administration. “We were always cognizant of the push-down, pop-up problem. But we weren’t about to let these pill mills flourish in the name of worrying about something that hadn’t happened yet. … When crooks are putting on white coats and handing out pills like candy, how could we expect a responsible administration not to act?”

      ANSWER: Because you’re presumed to have a brain in your head that’s “Smart” enough to know that the people shooting up the water-diluted oxycontin pills are going to be much less likely to die from overdose.

      (Given that they are careful enough at first to determine how much an effective dose is) as opposed to people shooting up heroin from the local street corner…

      In which case – they’re going to be guessing every time they get a bag from a new/different “batch” – And where the street dealers will admit that a junkie OD’ing from their “brand” is the best advertising they can get = That people will be going out of their way to get that same stuff because of its assumed strength /potency.

      But, then again I don’t truly expect Kev-Kev to actually make a “smart” (or wise) decision about anything – particularly when his job security lays in the balance of said decision.

      And in a manner similar to that of the gun-prohibers, they rarely give the numbers of pharmaceutical opiate overdose deaths are due to liver failure = from the tylenol that some folks insist must be included = to discourage/’prevent’ IV use.

      Or people taking them often innocently, by mouth “as needed” where their pain outweighs the amount/strength of the opiate in the pill (due to tolerance) = But the acetaminophen in the pills plays by totally different rules in the liver… liver failure will discourage misuse or abuse *technically* though not in the conventional sense.

      Oh yeah almost forgot, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

      • kaptinemo says:

        According to the WaPo, “Black men are six times more likely to die from gun homicide than suicide. For whites, it’s reversed.”

        And as to Kevvie’s declaration, I have one question: Who is this ‘we’ he refers to? Is that a royal ‘we’ (presuming to speak as the Almighty’s representative on Earth) or an editorial one?

        In either respect, it assumes a degree of arrogant, unwarranted power. The kind of subconscious admission commonly referred to as a ‘Freudian slip’. Typical behavior of a prohibitionist.

        And that article is once more guilty of the demi-conscious, lazy US media according undue title; Kevvie was never a ‘senior drug policy official’. Such a reality only exists in his mind and on his resume.

        He was nothing more – and never really has been – anything but a bureaucratic version of a Madison Avenue advertising copywriter. A speechwriter. A mouthpiece. A sock-puppet for the beneficiaries of prohibition – which, of course, he became.

        And lazy so-called ‘journalists’ have once more demonstrated that the only reason I read such claptrap at all is to see if they are awake to the fraud he is. Pitiful few are.

      • DdC says:

        Sorry but I have to call bullshit on the ‘guns now kill more young people than cars’ nonsense.

        Looks like Forbes is calling bullshit on you. Let’s see do I take the word of Forbes reporters, or a fact free whiner crying about everybody picking on the NRA church of gun?

        More than 32,000 people per year are killed by guns in the United States — at least.

        The total number’s incomplete because some gun-related deaths are left out of CDC statistics,

        End of discussion. No whining, guns kill kids and the NRA whines about getting taxed, Pot doesn’t kill and you get NRA lobbied mandatory minimums. Same lobby pushing prohibition for the prison industrial complex. Nice when they come out of the closet and not cower out of uniform.

        Drug overdoses kill more Americans than car crashes and firearms.
        Prescription drugs kill more people in the U.S. than any other drug,

        Drug overdoses continued to be the leading cause of injury death for Americans, killing more people than guns or car crashes each year since 2008. There were 46,471 fatal overdoses in 2013, with about half coming from prescription medicines and about 8,000 from heroin, according to the annual Drug Threat Assessment report, which was released on Wednesday.

        Pot continues to kill no one… But the sad truth is prohibs don’t care. Always diverting attention from their profits or propaganda. Heroin kills and prescriptions kill more but somehow that is diverted to pure heroin doesn’t kill so lets not mention it. Same with lets pretend military weapons of mass destruction are for shooting game. Divert attention from the death of innocent kids and then whine about Pot not killing as being an unfair comparison? Pitiful how brainwashed the NRA has its subjects.

        Your ignorance in worshiping a man made product has no relevance. Anymore than your unsubstantiated whining. Why are gunuts always whining? Guns kill thousands each year in the states while Pot has killed no one. That is the comparison. Pot is safer than guns, fat pharma and cars. Get over it. We don’t like whiners on the couch. We like reality you seem to like to avoid as much as doormat telling kids heroin is safer than cannabis. No difference than Sabet’s bullshit. Bullshit is bullshit and just because whiners call something bullshit. Doesn’t make it bullshit. Stats dude, not whines.

        • claygooding says:

          Not defending gun shows or unlicensed sales of guns BUT the death statistics include law enforcement killings and are therefore holy,,,cannot be used as a gun violence statistic because they feared for their life just doing their jobs.

        • B. Snow says:

          Yes, yes… cannabis is a million times safer than guns, cars, most pills, and everything that people put on their Christmas wishlists.

          That wasn’t my point at all. Guns are made to impart great force in a small point of impact at a distance = they’re designed (mostly) to kill, cars are (mostly) designed to carry people long distances.

          Although if you hit someone or something with a car – it’s gonna outdo the damage dealt by almost any gun.

          Comparing those statistics is still bullshit, It’s like comparing *Apples to Orangutans*, I’m no fan of the NRA – but I respect their ability to stop the Authoritarian Nannies from telling us what we’re allowed to own/posses/etc.

          It’s a lot like the people that said – “y’all only want MMJ legal – so you can then make recreational MJ legal.” They we’re kinda right not “only” for that reason but having people realize marijuana doesn’t bring the sky down or most anything it was depicted to hasn’t hurt the debate!

          People say they only want to pass “common sense” gun control measures like expanded background checks… BUT, that’s just the FIRST thing they want to control & limit in regards to guns.
          If everyone believed they would stop at there, it would’ve been agred to already!

          But as long as people say No to that – they’re not going on to the next thing… that’s why it hasn’t happened.

          Like maybe adding anyone & everyone they can to the “you can’t own a gun list” – like MJ users = for example… that’s already a law in many places.

          It shouldn’t have been allowed, but at the time nobody cared about the 2nd Amendment rights of MJ users & people considered them potentially crazy = And quite likely to go on a shooting spree the next time they spark up a joint.

          Oh and I still can’t believe people are willing to accept suicides into “gun violence” statistics. It may not be a victimless crime in the strictest sense, but it is in a a libertarian sense = if someone wants to off themselves – they’re not hurting other people. Maybe hurting their feelings or what-have-you – but that’s not the same.

          And the “gun show loop-hole” argument is as flawed as if Kev-Kev created it… Go to a gun show and try to find someone selling guns without making you fill out all the FFL paperwork.
          Here in TX – people selling guns for a living require background checks.

          Now if I wanted to sell someone a spare rifle (or handgun) or transfer one to a friend or family member there’s no background check required for that (99% of the time), but the Nannies would like to make everyone go to a 3rd party – like a commercial gun seller, and pay an exorbitant fee, and have both parties thr buyer & seller and the gun – all added to big olde federal registry!

          You already have to do part of that if you order a gun from the manufacturer it comes to a local FFL dealer who does the paperwork and files the background check and charges a fee & after a certain period if it all goes thru the application papers are destroyed.

          I can’t believe I have to argue why the government shouldn’t be trusted to not abuse that information = If they were allowed/’required’ to keep it in a database, just waiting to be hacked and added to a “steal gun(s) here list”…

          I’m not a “gun nut”, nor an NRA fan really, nor a “whiner” in any sense thank-you-very-much… I do know that people don’t build zip-guns or Saturday night specials like they once did – in part due to efforts of the NRA and a lack of severe gun prohibition.

          Here of all places – I shouldn’t have to argue what the effect of prohibiting guns would likely do = There would be more stabbings AND more/larger/more deadly explosives used in “terror” attacks, and of course more people using vehicles as weapons and as rolling suicide-bombs.

          And at least for now I’m done trying to explain & reason it all out, continued Happy Holidays, and a forthcoming Happy New Years folks!

        • DdC says:

          BS there is nothing about banning guns. Only about the Hypocrisy between Cannabis and Legal drugs, guns and cars killing people. Stop trolling my post with unrelated issues. It is not about taking your guns and I care less how many you have. This site is for you too.

    • Servetus says:

      Russ Belville’s list of flyover states is a reminder of how tainted-blood laws can be used to illegally restrict travel.

      Traveler advisories need to be issued by the State Department to the indicated areas to warn of the dangers. Under the equal protection clause, medical marijuana patients should not face a threat of reprisal if they need to travel to some remote outpost comprising bigots who hate marijuana consumers due to some cultural or religious identity conflict. Under international law, restrictions of the rights of travel for the wrong reasons can be construed as a human rights crime. And alas, there is no statute of limitations on international human rights crimes.

      Another problem is the offending states call into question politicians who say they want to leave marijuana legalization exclusively up to the states. Many political candidates now use this policy to silence the debate over the marijuana laws to avoid being forced to discuss the details of the topic during the 2016 election. Given the current legal situation that restricts travel for marijuana consumers, it’s not a complete solution.

      BTW: Pete, congratulations on your retirement. Research indicates that retirement really does make people happier, and that the happiness lasts. And Merry Christmas to everyone as well.

  13. darkcycle says:

    Happy Holidays, Pete, and to all my friends here on Pete’s Couch.
    Thank you Pete, for providing this space for all us ne’er-do-well legalizers and reprobates. We have all benefited as has the entire cause for your efforts. I know you’ll enjoy your retirement, but somehow I just don’t see you spending your time fishing and watching Kathy Lee (Is she still on? Got no idea…). Can’t wait to find out what you get up to.
    Merry Christmas, Couchmates!

  14. DdC says:

    The Shocking Pagan Origin of CHRISTMAS!
    What is the TRUE ORIGIN of Christmas? Where did it come from? Did you know Yeshua the Messiah was born nowhere NEAR December 25, but that was the “birth day” of the sun- god, “Sol Invictus” or “Mithras”? Did you know December 25 was the concluding day of the pagan winter festival called the “Saturnalia”? Where did “Santa Claus” come from? The “Christmas tree”? How did this pagan feast become connected with “Christianity”? Here is an amazing “whale of a tale”!

    ☛ AMERICA- Not A Christian Nation

    The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
    — Thomas Jefferson, 1823

    ☛ The Psychedelic Secrets of Santa Claus

    ☛ The True Spirits of an Old-Time Christmas

    ☛ Well, Ya Say This is Christmas?

    ☛ Santa’s Red Mushrooms
    The Sami people used to feed brightly colored red and white “fly-argic” mushrooms to their reindeer and then, drink the animal’s urine in order to get a more safe and processed form of the drug into their own systems. The effect of the “fly-argic” mushrooms would have been similar to taking LSD.

    ☛ Vikings and Mushrooms erowid


  15. hope says:

    Out of 33, 000 killed by people with guns many thousands of those acts of gun violence were done in self defense or the defense of others.

    Many, many people that get shot and killed each year actually really needed shooting.

    Gun violence or the threat of it can and has saved many lives.

    • DdC says:

      Out of 33, 000 killed by people with guns many thousands of those acts of gun violence were done in self defense or the defense of others.

      Out of 33, 000 people smoking pot, .
      Many thousands of those acts of violence are avoided.

      were done in self defense or the defense of others.

      The score says Guns killed thousands. Pot ZERO.
      Legal Drugs and Heroin killed thousands. Pot ZERO.
      Cars and Pen Caps have killed thousands. Pot ZERO.
      Lousy season for Pot, batting ZERO after all the hype that its a schedule #1 Nearkotic. It can’t be stopping seizures in front of your eyes. Its a schedule #1 Nearkotic and therefore can’t have medicinal value. Millions of people can’t be using it due to it being a menace to society. If it was being used you would see the destruction it caused. Herds of schizophrenics and increased sales in Moob Brazeeres. A stepping stone gateway causal connection to cannabis prohibition, not drugs. It has had a rough time keeping the schedule #1 Nearkotic seat. GOPerverts keeping science banned hopefully won’t hold up another century. The other drugs just laugh and smirk. Daddy’s boy gets in and hasn’t even killed anyone. Doesn’t hurt anyone or blow holes in them. What a whoosee, who put this weed in here? Get out Ganja, you ain’t no menace. Aspirin’s more of a threat to life. But somehow the manufactured bible, guns and money need protection and the plant is persecuted.

      Many, many people that get shot and killed each year actually really needed shooting.

      Yes and since NRA blocks accountability, maybe a Lojack device. Those you say need killing probably got their guns as stolen property. Terrorists get guns from profiteers and none of it is traceable. Cars are recalled and race cars are prohibited from streets. Not semi’s and banana clips. Souped up guns, bad aim. But again a diversion. Nothing to do with taking guns or if that was ever a threat. If they want to know who has guns just subpoena NRA member lists. This post only compares the Hypocrisy of the NRA, Fat Pharma and the Auto Industry killing Americans. Not exclusively, many multi national corporations have vested interest in cannabis prohibition. Not just the NRA. Lots of words for a simple concept. Pot smoking doesn’t kill but Prohibition does while GD&C do kill but are legal. Hypocrisy was the theme enthusiasts seem to have missed.

      Gun violence or the threat of it can and has saved many lives.

      Chicken and the egg. Not Liberty or Freedom holed up in a bunker. Corporations lobby for gun laws. Cops and Profit Prisons lobby for gun laws. Government of the people elected legislate what lobbyists lobby for. So your NRA buys the legislation to cage growers treating sick people. They sell the weapons to DEA to aim at Polio victims faces. They also manufacture almost 100% of the weapons used by ISIS, Gangs, Cartels and Wingnut shitkickers and Armies. Each one is made and then disappears where it lands no one cares. As stated many times, I have no fear or hate for guns. I don’t relate gun rights to the NRA, only profits selling them. Many exporting to unstable areas for resources to exploit. The post showed the hypocrisy and those who defend it.

  16. hope says:

    I am the NRA. The NRA is just people like me (except for Nugent). I’m saying, not whining, you don’t have to have one in your house, but I don’t think anyone else, should take my right to make those decisions for myself and my home. I know there are rules about everything. I know there are dangerous idiots amongst us and that is a shame, but making me defensless against them would not help at all.

    • DdC says:

      You’re a member Hope. You do not manufacture weapons. Whining about taxes on guns that take taxes to fix the gun shot is debatable. Not pertinent to this post comparing legal drugs, cars and guns to zero cannabis deaths. The whining about taxes diverts from the post to a selfish act protecting billion dollar munitions deals. Stolen guns not accounted for. All falls to deaf ears because the NRA Lobby isn’t you either. It’s not about guns, its about profit.

      The NRA is responsible for mandatory minimums, putting growers into cages regardless of the circumstances. Your last point is another NRA talking point that has absolutely nothing to do with the post. Tax on cigarettes, tax on Cancer patient care. But again, nothing to do with the draconian filth putting people in prison for metabolites.

      I’m on record as not fearing guns or giving a rats ass if anyone owns one. I don’t like military weapons in the hands of civilians or tanks or anthrax or nukes. The rights are ridiculous to me since they own drones and as I pointed out. Militias, including Nugets and NRA were always mustered by Big Guv and used to put down protesters and rebellions against Big Guv and Taxes. So if you feel the need to have a gun. Buy one. If it is stolen and used in a drive by. Or sold to terrorists or found by kids. Reality says death and injury happens in those ways with guns. Not Pot.

      OD’s kill from legal drugs and cars were always a big time totally legal killer. Not Pot. Defending a multinational munitions industry that lobby for political zealots to send more kids to more trillion dollar lie based oil protection scams. I really don’t think that’s you Hope. I don’t want your guns removed. I was raised with guns and know how to use them and take care of them. Not the NRA Prohibition Lobby serving the Prison Industry and Military, SWAT, DEA and local 50,000 US copshops.

      If your rights were a concern to the NRA they would not sit by while corporate property management buy up neighborhoods and ban guns, smoke and pot plants in legal states. Where is the NRA or MPP? Segregation isn’t prudent if its about lower or fixed incomes. Not a demographic worth spending time on. Better whining about taxes to compensate the taxes spent patching up or burying gun shot victims. Then the prisons or rehabilitation and none of it happens from smoking Pot. Yet MM for metabolites and no judge sees that as abusing rights? Just stoners? Paranoia is not healthy Hope.

      Tell me how many get to exercise their second amendment rights, protecting their families and dogs from SWAT kicking down the door? I am against all prohibition in the legal terms. All a gateway to corruption as soon as the ink dries. Its like church, opiate of the masses. The media tells us what they think sells us what is being sold. Programmed, they admit it. Cities have banned guns and I’ve never advocated that or did the post advocate that. But guns do kill, good bad or indifferent. Drive by blowing shotguns at people is a waste of pot. Hypocrisy is exposed Hope. It was never a ban gun post or Forbes article. I hear Eddie Eagle taste like Chicken>>>

      Hope you’re Having a Happy Holliday Hope.

      • Windy says:

        If you don’t like guns in the hands of your fellow citizens then work to get an amendment to the Constitution to repeal the 2nd Amendment passed by congress and ratified by 3/4 of the States (and good fucking luck with that, more people revere the 2nd than hate it).

        • DdC says:

          Windy it seems this site would benefit many falsely advocating guns when the post was about Hypocrisy. Nothing about taking your guns. It’s a weaselly act used by prohibitionists and corrupted politicians. It seems integrity has no part in the love of guns.

          So you’re basically trolling the post with propaganda unrelated to the post. Diverting from the issue of blatant Hypocrisy in states persecuting cannabis users. While guns, legal drugs and cars are killing thousands.

          Now metabolites getting Americans hard time with NRA mandatory minimums. NRA Prohibition Profiteers Lobby serving the Prison Industry and Military, SWAT, DEA and local 50,000 US cop shops. These are not gun toters claiming their rights to sleeveless shirts. They are corporate war mongering profiteers killing people with no accountability.

    • Mouth says:

      I am a Life Member of the NRA because my dad bought me the membership just before he died. I will not pay them one dollar or a single cent for my annual dues until they fight for all drugs to be legalized, simply because drug money finances the criminal, gangster, trafficker, insurgent and terrorist . . . to not support legalization is an act of terror and treason and I’m pretty sure the NRA is (spiritually and mentally) based out of Saudi Arabia due to the fact the 9/11 hijackers utilized drug money and the NRA don’t support legal dope.

      This Vet doesn’t support the NRA, just like I don’t support keeping confederate ‘praise’ monuments up, but I do support having NRA stickers on my car or on my house for the same reasons why I don’t attack a large grizzly bear with a flyswatter . . . it helps keep those bastard good ol’ boys from prying their snouts too deep into my business if I kind of look and smell like them.

  17. hope says:

    Congratulations, Pete! Happy, wonderful, healthy retirement!

  18. Mr_Alex says:

    Some bad news from the NZMA (New Zealand Medical Association), even though they in the past have supported as a last resort treatment for people who are out of Medical Options. They have retracted on their support towards any medical use and now have refused to support any alternative treatment ultilizing Cannabis for the following conditions:

    and more

    Also the Cochrane Collaborative have refused to do any research on Cannabis and I mean the New Zealand branch of the Cochrane Collaborative. It is no surprise that I will admit in this blog that me and over 60 other activists in New Zealand have pushed for Cannabis to be unbanned or to be allowed as medicine at the very least. The official statement from the New Zealand Government lately that NZ already has Sativex from GW Pharma and people should consult their physicians, also the New Zealand Government has made it clear that whole plant Cannabis is out of the picture and does not mind anyone in New Zealand who are eligible for Sativex to pay $1,300 per bottle of Sativex

    If I had the chance to move to the US, I seriously would, New Zealand is FUBAR’ED, there is no hope for New Zealand

    • kaptinemo says:

      Mr. Alex, this may help explain why this is happening. And it is, as the saying goes, straight from the horse’s mouth: Corporate Cannabis

      Read it all the way through. It really should not surprise anyone here as to the motivations of the opposition. They were always more mercenary than moral.

      This was the game plan all along. And events in your country have just proved it. It is just what people like Andrea Barthwell were supposed to help accomplish, using the cachet of her former Number 2 position at ONDCP and ‘contacts’ in the US Congress in favor of her new employers. In other words, influence peddling.

      It was why the official US propaganda was changed in 2003 to reflect those corp-rat hopes of monopolizing the medicinal cannabis market…with government assistance.

      During her tenure, Barthwell’s tune changed from all cannabis having no medicinal qualities, to only smoked cannabis having no medicinal qualities. And after that, she left ‘public service’. You can guess where she went to.

      She failed there, and her usefulness to her corp-rat employer ended. But the agenda rolls along in other countries. And that agenda is to continue to prohibit raw, natural unprocessed cannabis from entering the hands of those who need it the most in favor of something dispensed from a spray bottle at too high a price.

      • Tony Aroma says:

        This quote says is all:

        “I am a pharmaceutical physician, and my definition of a pharmaceutical [product] is a ‘worthwhile medicine that makes money.’ ”

    • kaptinemo says:

      And, mind you, this was only one aspect of the operation. To say that a conspiracy exists to prevent the average person on Earth from benefiting from home-grown cannabis – and, perforce, industrial hemp – is to belabor the obvious.

      That this conspiracy has international dimensions is also to belabor the obvious. The Semblers, Kevvie, DuPont, etc. are all major players in this de facto conspiracy. A conspiracy that continues to enjoy the hearty assistance of the US Government.

      And it’s all in plain sight. The associations of the major players are all governed by financial incentives. You’ve already uncovered a lot of them. The link I provided may help to flush out a few more locally.

      • Mr_Alex says:


        In New Zealand I can tell you who is involved with suppressing Cannabis

        John Key (Prime Minister of New Zealand)
        Amy Adams (New Zealand Justice Minister)
        Judith Collins (Minister for Corrections)
        Peter Dunne (Minister for the Inland Revenue Department and Vice Minister of Health, he has already cited whole plant Cannabis or even the Rick Simpson Phoenix Tears Cannabis Oil is not up for discussion or even removal from the Class B category)
        Jonathan Coleman (Minister of Health)

        Also in New Zealand we have had people who have been locked up in prison for making Cannabis Oil and charging a better price than Sativex and these people who challenge the New Zealand Government because they can make a better quality product than Sativex, people who have done it have lost their homes via asset forfeiture and even been incacerated in Prison for more than 2 years and also it has resulted in destroyed careers, relationships and even limited immigration to the person convicted

    • NorCalNative says:

      Mr_Alex, if you can’t move, can you cultivate? Know someone who can?

      Find a cannabis variety close to Sativex’s 1:1 CBD-to-THC ratio and make your own full extract oil.

      Jamaican Lion (7% CBD/8.8% THC) would be a great choice.

      CBD-rich plants where the CBD is greater than the THC could be blended with High-THC varieties. A few other examples of CBD-rich plants are Harlequin, ACDC, and Cannatonic. ACDC is the California version of “Charlotte’s Web” at something like 18 or 20-to-1 CBD-to-THC.

      Good luck.

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  20. Duncan20903 says:


    Something that most, if not all of those who frequent this blog have seen some of the most mind boggling “reasoning” imaginable from the enemies of liberty. So absurd that the people who proffer their brain dead opinions are sometimes described as people who think that “Reefer Madness” was a documentary. I suppose it might be time to retire that particular denigration. I’ve just read possibly the most insanely absurd screed in favor of continuing to criminalize cannabis. The author of the screed opened with:

    The classic 1936 anti-marijuana propaganda film Reefer Madness revolved around very melodramatic events where high school students, lured by pushers to try marijuana, descended into a sensational multitude of drug-induced depravities. In decades hence, this cautionary tale of a drug menace gone mad has been rightfully seen as an extremely exaggerated take on the use of marijuana.

    so I think they’re wise to this tactic. So what exactly does this particular anti-cannabisarian think is not “an extremely exaggerated” take on choosing to enjoy cannabis?

    The inventory includes but is not limited to: marijuana overexpands and weakens our etheric field that is the blueprint/plan for our physical body (worked on, for example, in acupuncture and human energy field work); this overexpansion may cause energy leakage through breaks in our etheric field (which can become sites of physical disease and entity attachment); this weakening of the grid-like etheric field can allow an increase in the loss of our self-efficacy and our making decisions based on lower instincts rather than true intuition, right livelihood, and constructive activity; the marijuana high takes us into the astral plane that is not the goal of spiritual evolution (even while facilitating creativeness this can disconnect us from our higher self and result in mental fragmentation, delusionary thinking and dependency); the chronic marijuana user can be eventually induced into remarkable degrees of denial.

    Someday will someone please ‘splain to me how the heck you can disagree with someone without sounding like a person “in denial”?

    • Duncan20903 says:


      The Governor of New Mexico is involved in a scandal and stands accused of abusing her authority as Governor to order local police to not investigate the drunken soirée in her hotel room. Also included is the fact that she was “in denial” of being 3 sheets to the wind. Unfortunately the police were recording her phone call. There doesn’t seem to be anyone who’s heard that recording who has any doubt about her being drunk. Let’s file this one in the “spin baby spin” category:
      Gov. Martinez’s integrity under attack in hotel incident

    • B. Snow says:

      “how the heck you can disagree with someone without sounding like a person “in denial”?

      Uhm, yeah… You don’t bother trying.

      “… the marijuana high takes us into the astral plane that is not the goal of spiritual evolution…”

      That is someone talking about metaphysics that would be snugly at home in a Fantasy RPG – probably in the ‘fluff’ portion of a chapter on ‘Psionics’ or a section on D&D Cosmology – or possibly pulled from the Manual of the Planes.

      Losing what sounds like *chi energy* from overexpansion of human ‘etheric fields’, can in this reading – lead to illness or “entity attachment”…
      Rough Translation = getting high can over-inflate your ‘aura’ (more or less), Which can possibly lead to Possession by Demons or whatever other “Entities” they believe would exist in a parallel dimension/plane just waiting to invade an unsuspecting stoner…

      Based on my experience, This sounds just exactly like something people in Santa Fe would be discussing in a cafe – while downing many pots of coffee into the early AM, maybe even in a city council/committee meeting?
      It reeks of Conservative-ish, Old-Hippie-Chic-Speak -aka- “we don’t want the kids getting high like we used to when we were their age.”

      Note: The piece’s author = “is a holistic researcher and freelance writer living in Santa Fe.”

      Ahh Yes, So teens get baked and indulge “lower instincts” Vs adults that are pursuing “true intuition”… *cough*Hypocrite*cough*

      Instead of arguing about ‘denial’, I’d ask him to tell you more about his self-righteous – ‘holistic research’ into things like his aforementioned “etheric field work”.
      Sounds to me like *somebody* has already had more than their share of the weed & whatnot, but probably won’t admit it, OR they will admit it -at great length- and they’re still doing the 12-stepper dance.

      There’s also a (slim) side-chance they’re on the AA “MJ Maintenance Program”- in which case they could be quite intriguing & generally fun people.

    • Windy says:

      My daughter use to do energy healing (she doesn’t have time, now, since her paying job takes up so much of her time she barely has time to sleep), and Our whole family uses weed, except for her (her job requires she be tested randomly, she got tested yesterday) and she has used her healing on a few of us and never encountered anything in us like what that dude said.

  21. primus says:

    If one denies this “etheric field” bilgewater along with chakra stones pyramid power and kyrrilian photography then one is, according to this idiot, in denial rather than a sensible sane rational reasoning sentient being. What a load of tripe.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      It’s not something peculiar to people who exist in alternate realities. But residence in an alternate reality sure make it a lot more amusing. E.g. I’m sure that there are lots of people spend lots of time wondering what Dr. Bobby DuPont does for fun. Until now no one has been able to answer that question. Many have postulated that he doesn’t do anything for fun. But I have finally found an example:

      Interview: Dr. Robert DuPont

      I got a group of unemployed college students. We went down to the D.C. jail with our urine cups, and collected urines from everybody who came into the jail for the one-month period of August, 1969.

      This means that Dr. Bobby has had his urine fetish for at least 46 years. Probably longer. People don’t just wake up one morning and decide to stroll on over to the local jail to collect and microscopically examine the inmates pee-pee for a full month. I can practically promise that Dr. Bobby almost certainly started with specialty pornography in the “golden showers” category. I’ll even bet that he doesn’t subscribe to the notion that it’s better to be pissed off than being pissed on.

  22. Duncan20903 says:


    Some people have used McCarthyism as a metaphor for the war on (some) drugs. In China, it’s no longer a metaphor.

    China pressures celebrities to serve in war on drugs

    BEIJING — Imagine if, after arresting a wave of celebrities on drug charges, U.S. government officials pressed the heads of major Hollywood studios, A-list actors, record-label chiefs and chart-topping singers to sign promises that they would stay away from vices such as drugs, pornography and gambling.

    Simultaneously, substance-abusing performers found their films shut out of cinemas, forcing producers into hasty reshoots and re-edits, and news media began running editorials criticizing top directors for failing to inform on associates they had seen smoking pot or taking Ecstasy.

    Last month, the group held a forum in Beijing, touting the fact that 50 of its member organizations had signed on to its “pledge on professional ethics and self-discipline.” In addition to shunning drugs, the pledge also obligates signatories to “protect the leadership of the Communist Party.”

  23. Servetus says:

    Divestiture threatens the private prison industry, thanks due to the students and administrators at the University of California:

    The public University of California (UC) school system will no longer invest in private prison companies. As a result of mounting student pressure to divest, UC removed its $25 million shares from the Geo Group Inc and Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) — controversial companies linked to human rights abuses across the country.[…]

    …both are well-known for their gross human rights violations, such as feeding inmates spoiled food, housing them in moldy cells, forcing them to defecate in plastic bags, profiting from free prison labor, and denying them adequate medical treatment. Many prisoners have died under suspicious circumstances.

    Dick Cheney’s favorite portfolio investment is in trouble. Various bills have been introduced to end an ongoing insurgency of fascism into penitentiaries initiated through prison profiteering on people sentenced for drug crimes. Investors need to get out before the big rush begins.


  24. Fruitcake says:

    Keep on how horrible America is when stories like this exist:


    Face it, America (the continent, not the CUNTRY… I’m aware of Uruguay) is the ONLY place where legalising a harmless plant is taking place.

    But go ahead. Ignore Sweden’s harsh drug laws or people getting executed in Asia. Your number 1 priorities should lie at the dying prohibitches in America, who are becoming completely powerless.

    Why give a fuck when you live in AMERICA!


    • Servetus says:

      I’ve mocked Sweden’s drug laws many times here on Drug WarRant, but you can only mock a country for so long, then the schtick gets old.

      Decades ago I asked a friend traveling to Sweden to inquire around to get a sense of the drug scene there and report back. One of the first people he spoke to admitted he had spent two years in jail on a marijuana charge. The drug scene was and is tyrannical, but it didn’t change people’s attitudes.

      Sweden took a hard turn to the far political right when Prime Minister Olof Palme was assassinated in 1986. Not surprisingly, those were the Reagan years. The actual assassin’s identity was never determined.

      Odd that Sweden is one of the last European countries to engage in secret trials – in this case it’s for victims of sex crimes, and it’s designed to protect the victim’s identity. That’s why the news media and others can’t interview the two Swedish women who accused Julian Assange of condom improprieties. Convenient, should a government want to frame someone, isn’t it?

      • DdC says:

        Check the source…

        Hard to fathom there are still Americans
        so gullible as to believe such obvious vested ignorance…

        Ed Gogek – Arizona
        Dr. Ed Gogek of Prescott
        is an addiction psychiatrist. $$$

        For example, a Rand Corporation report says California spends $110 million yearly on schizophrenia hospitalizations caused by marijuana; for the whole U.S., that’s over $1 billion per year. Marijuana also causes addiction and injuries from auto accidents, which are expensive problems to treat.

        Marijuana causes insanity…
        in non-smokers
        ~ Tim Leary
        ☛ APA Awards Unanimous Support for Medical Marijuana
        ☛ 2nd Largest US Medical Association Calls for Rescheduling of Cannabis
        ☛ Study: No Marijuana Link To Schizophrenia
        ☛ Cannabis Use Not Linked with Psychosocial Harm
        ☛ NORML Responds
        ☛ Cannabis link to schizophrenia: The LIE exposed!!
        ☛ Psychosis, Hype And Baloney
        ☛ Marijuana-Like Drugs Could Treat Schizophrenia, Study Suggests
        ☛ Marijuana may help schizophrenia by Dana Larsen (01 Sept, 1999)
        ☛ Cannabis and schizophrenia by Reverend Damuzi (02 Dec, 2004)
        ☛ Why You Should Smoke More Pot by Jack Herer
        ☛ Users of Cannabis Scoff at Mental Health Risks of Cannabis
        ☛ The relationship between schizophrenia and religion
        ☛ Coffee may give you schizophrenia
        ☛ Schizophrenia Linked to Prenatal Nutritional Deficiency
        ☛ After Two Puffs, I Was Turned Into a Bat

        Cannabis Users Are Safer Drivers Than Non-Users, New Study Shows 4.6.12

        Big Government-Supported Study Finds No Evidence
        That Medical Marijuana Laws Encourage Teenagers to Smoke Pot
        Jun. 16, 2015

        Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia

    • DdC says:

      Fruitcake you have it all wrong…

      Why give a fuck when you live in AMERICA!
      should be
      Why give a fuck when you live in AMERICA?

      Because fucks are hard to come by sometimes. They have value, and any good capitalist should be able to charge a fair price for each fuck they give. Regardless where you live. If you give a fuck you should be compensated. Maybe someone will give a fuck about you. If Nobody gives a fuck, maybe we should vote for her or him. Seems most don’t give a fuck because they are either told not to give a fuck or they don’t know what the fuck it is they are supposed to give a fuck about. The news certainly doesn’t give a fuck or tell anyone how fucked up things are. If those paid to not give a fuck hear of some giving a fuck. They lie or divert attention from what is being fucked. Not giving a fuck about the consequences, just fucking profits. Or not fucking profits. WTF, still not as bad as those who give a shit.

  25. “The man who exposed the lie of the war on drugs ” http://tinyurl.com/p5dmpml

    “Capitalism,” says Saviano, “needs the criminal syndicates and criminal markets… This is the most difficult thing to communicate. People – even people observing organised crime – tend to overlook this, insisting upon a separation between the black market and the legal market. It’s the mentality that leads people in Europe and the USA to think of a mafioso who goes to jail as a mobster, a gangster. But he’s not, he’s a businessman, and his business, the black market, has become the biggest market in the world.” …

    Informing the public of the true nature of the drug war and disseminating the truth has been left to us.

    The use of the justice system to enforce prohibition upon the US population expends billions of dollars annually. In every state prosecutors and the police and their supporters fight state laws to legalize and repeal drug laws.

    Law enforcement and cartels have a lot in common. They are all part of the capitalist system of prohibition and owe their operational cash and profits to its (prohibition’s) continued existence.

    The crooks and the cops are alike in their quest to keep black market drugs illegal. With forfeiture laws in place its hard if not impossible to tell the players apart. The continued existence of a black market provides vital nutrient to the law enforcement and justice system in America.

    The justice system in America thinks it needs a continuing black market to survive.

    This is why local police and prosecutors should completely divorce themselves from state discussions about legalizing marijuana and ending the war on drugs.

    They are too much like their counterparts in the black market; they are addicted to the cash flow that is provided by the capitalist war on drugs.

    Americans are pawns in the war on drugs. Protecting king money is the name of the game.

    Helping the common man is of minor importance in this discussion unless “we the people” provide loud and continuous clamor to end the DEA’s drug prohibition and stop this ugly war on us all.

    Here is hoping this new year brings us some relief from all these money grubbing parasites.

    • DdC says:

      Yep, the Ganjawar is a product they sell and advertise on mainstream media propaganda channels. UnAmerican traitors calling themselves capitalists imho. Fascism is more like it. Government legislating for prohibitionist industries. Monopolies for corporations. Lies in court persecuting innocent Americans, lets the guilty go free. Winning is the agenda over Justice. Neocon profiteers on misery, even if they have to create it. Still boggles the mind how many Americans side with the fascist and their paychecks over sanity and human rights.

      ☛ DEAth Merchants
      ☛ Who’s going to stop the thieves?
      ☛ Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath
      ☛ Drug mishandling may have tainted 40,000 cases
      ☛ Rackets Driven by this Drug War
      ☛ Aʂʂhole police
      ☛ Second Probe Raises Stink
      ☛ WTF’s Up with New Mexico?
      Have they been annexed by Texas?
      ☛ How to Prosecute Abusive Prosecutors
      ☛ Money, Not Morals, Drives Marijuana Prohibition Movement

      Money Grubbing Dung Worriers
      ☛ Kimmel, Frank, Pelosi, Branson, Criticize MMJ Raids: Obama Splains
      ☛ Forfeiture $quads
      ☛ The President has some fans
      ☛ What third way?
      ☛ Ganjawar Puppycide
      ☛ When Police Learn
      ☛ SCotUS: 4th Amendment slows Cops Forfeiter Train…
      ☛ Incrementalretardation… What happens when cops write initiatives.
      ☛ Ending D.E.A.th & Pillage Incrementally
      ☛ SCotUS: Marijuana Possession Not a Deportable Offense
      ☛ New York’s Vote to Curb Stop-And-Frisk
      ☛ This is the Brain of Incremental Retardation…
      ☛ As the Last Denialist’ Cling to the Stinking Sinking WoD Bullship.
      ☛ Oh damn, more drug worrier dog crap to step in?
      ☛ Do your part to help those afflicted with Incremental Retardation.
      ☛ DPA Report Finds ‘Policing for Profit’ Gone Wild

      Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage
      ☛ CONgress’ CONvenient Commerce Santa Clause

      Kochroach & Aleech…
      ☛ Kochaine A.L.E.C. Drug Detention Centers
      ☛ Koch-Owned Georgia-Pacific Environmental Crimes
      ☛ Koch Brothers eye L.A. Times, other Tribune newspapers
      ☛ Prison Overcrowding Conflict of Interest
      ☛ NRA Slavery: Another Fine Product Still Made in the USA

      Shame on the Drug Worrier Profiteers
      ☛ Nonsensical Harbingers of Idiocracy
      ☛ Misinformation S.A.M.
      ☛ Belville to Sabet to Chapman 1.29.13
      ☛ If the Roots are Poison, So be the Fruit.
      ☛ Mooching Off Medicaid
      ☛ More DEA and UN Overreaching Arguments Against Legalization
      ☛ Won’t say why?
      ☛ The U.N.’s complicity in international human rights abuses
      ☛ The Many Different Faces Of Cannabis In America
      ☛ Lobbyists Are Getting Rich Off of WoD
      ☛ DEA Bans Dispensary Security and Armored Cars From Picking up Cash
      ☛ Their father’s are rolling over in their Martini glasses…
      ☛ Project SCAM Forcing Pot Smokers Into “Prehab”
      ☛ Heard in Congress… Thud.
      ☛ Guess Who’s Profiting From Pot Prohibition?
      ☛ Getting High Would Be Legal If It Weren’t For THIS
      ☛ Leading Anti-Marijuana Academics Are Paid by Painkiller Drug Companies
      ☛ Pisstasting is UnAmerican

  26. Mr_Alex says:

    I just want to mention how the Sativex scandal was done in New Zealand and I can tell you now the New Zealand Government tried to discredit the Rick Simpson Cannabis Oil and other Cannabis Oil product made from other strains, it all started in 2009 or 2011 when news of GW Pharma’s Sativex was mentioned in New Zealand Media, the Rick Simpson Oil in New Zealand currently is put in the Class B drug rating when it should not be there at all, pure Cannabis is Class C in New Zealand, when Sativex became available lots of Cannabis Oil makers either were arrested or incacerated in prison for more than 2 years and at the moment in New Zealand and some of them even lost their homes via asset forfeiture. The Sativex scandal is being used to destroy people’s lives and relationships.

    • And the competition. GW investors are secure.

      • Mr_Alex says:

        Also Kevin Sabet was in New Zealand last year during April and 2013 during April as well, his trip to New Zealand was sponsored by the New Zealand Government, on Project SAM’s page, they call for more research but I suspect they have a ‘hidden agenda’. Project SAM wants more research and FDA to fast track Sativex, it is in my suspicion that KevKev/Kevvie or Kevin Sabet wants the New Zealand model of Cannabis laws imposed on the US, thats what the Sativex Scandal is in New Zealand, Kevin Sabet wants the Sativex only model in the U.S. and thats what Andrea Barthwell, Barry McCaffery, David Frum, Patrick Kennedy, Julie Ann Schauer and a whole host of prohibs are aiming for, the Sativex model if exported from New Zealand to the U.S. people who make better quality Cannabis Oil will be thrown in prison

        Also since Sativex is available in New Zealand, Pharmac and the Ministry of Health and ACC Accident Compensation Corporation which are Government agencies in New Zealand have voted not to fund Sativex and per bottle its a rip off ($1,300 NZD per bottle). Also only at least 48 people in New Zealand can access Sativex but cannot afford it.

        Don’t let Kevin Sabet export the Sativex Scandal to the US or let the FDA give any incentives to GW Pharma by fast tracking their products in the US, this happened to New Zealand when the Ministry of Health and Pharmac fast tracked GW Pharma’s application and then Cannabis Oil became permanently stuck on the Class B rating which carries serious penalties in New Zealand.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Could you give me a hint of just how many years this nonsense conspiracy theory before you people are going to abandon the stupidity? It’s already been playing for more than five (5) years in this blog’s comments column. Either the conspiracy theory is utter stupidity or the conspirators are incompetent. Of course that’s all discounting the more likely probability that like all good conspiracy theories the believers are utter morons.


        • Will says:

          “Could you give me a hint of just how many years this nonsense conspiracy theory before you people are going to abandon the stupidity? ”

          There is no conspiracy theory. Any prohibitionist who has begrudgingly admitted that cannabis has medicinal properties demands that pharmaceutical companies prepare standardized, FDA approved products that only doctors can prescribe. Kevin Sabet has made this position clear many times. GW Pharmaceuticals is doing their best to follow the FDA’s protocol to have their products approved in this manner. There is nothing wrong with GW Pharmaceuticals wanting their products to be approved for use in the US, potentially they stand to make serious profits. It has been described that GW Pharmaceuticals essentially produces “liquid marijuana”. If/when their products are approved we’ll see, once again, “differential scheduling” rear its ugly head, i.e., Marinol is a Schedule III drug while non-FDA approved naturally occurring THC derived from cannabis plant material remains a Schedule I controlled substance. This is just how people like Kevin Sabet want this to play out.

          No conspiracy theory at all, just the same ongoing hypocrisy in plain sight.

        • kaptinemo says:

          From the link I provided earlier:

          ” There is no question that GW plans to enforce its patents on Sativex, which is a precisely dosed medicine. Warns Guy: “To protect our extensive investment, we have sought to identify and patent certain inventions throughout the growing, extraction and manufacturing process. My comments to Mr. Lucas were made as a friendly and, hopefully, helpful gesture as I did not wish him to invest a great amount of effort into obtaining approval for a product as a prescription medicine only to find that he did not have the freedom to operate in the first place.”

          Guy’s warning was reiterated shortly after I arrived in England to interview him, when Mark Rogerson, GW’s grey-templed, elegantly dressed, public relations man, met me at the Oxford train station. “Once it’s approved and Sativex becomes a medicine under the law, there needs to be a minor change in legislation so it can be prescribed,” he said, as he steered his Hyundai (his Audi was in the shop) into near-gridlock. “The Home Office has already said they will do that, and then patients will be taking a legal medicine. But if you are an MS sufferer, it would still be illegal for you to grow cannabis at the bottom of the garden to treat your symptoms. Our medicine will be legal, but anything else will not be.”

          To recap: Based upon the public statements of those involved in its creation, there is apparently an attempt by a private industry colluding with a national government (several, in fact) to create a monopoly on a natural medicine, preventing people from legally growing their own, and forcing them to purchase a highly expensive, legally-sanctioned concoction of the same plant medicine that bears a Gub’mint stamp of approval, and is intent upon punishing them for not doing so.

          Let the evidence, as I said before, coming ‘straight from the horse’s mouth’, stand for itself.

        • kaptinemo says:

          As to their competency in carrying out their efforts, one must distinguish the types of governments involved as well as the methodologies used in forwarding that agenda.

          Most such nations are largely countries where the average citizen is a subject of a parochial government, not citizens of a free republic. History shows how such an arrangement can lead very easily to abuses of power.

          Once a government has been ‘captured’ by an economic or ideological interest, it usually becomes the handmaiden of that interest, and behaves accordingly, with the concomitant demand upon that nation’s subjects to obey a law written by those economic or ideological allies in parliament. Thus, the secular version of Papal infallibility is usually assumed by those in power, even in the face of it not being warranted at all. Australia’s current gun laws are a perfect example of that kind of thinking run amok.

          So, those intent on maintaining cannabis prohibition have had vastly more luck in doing so in nations with parliamentary systems than they have had here. A fact for which, as benighted as our political system here appears to be, we should be grateful.

        • DdC says:

          I wonder if GW is so yo yoish, depending on what is said in press clippings or forums. Down up down up down up.

          GWPH 69.29 + 0.9

          Maybe I’m speculating but it sorta seems like GW stock rises when Sabet talks dirty about pot and it falls when Science interjects reality.

      • “DEA Eases Restrictions on CBD Research to Benefit Big Pharma” http://tinyurl.com/zkw8hbr

        “There was speculation last week that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration might be on the verge of downgrading the Schedule I classification of the cannabis plant. Unfortunately, the end result proved the implications behind the rumors were somewhat overstated, as the agency simply moved to ease the restrictions surrounding one of the herb’s most infamous non-intoxicating compounds in an effort to abridge the research process for Big Pharma.”

    • Servetus says:

      Kevin Sabet has a new HuffPo piece where he claims ten victories for his anti-marijuana movement, which he refers to as comprising “pro-health advocates that oppose marijuana legalization”, or as I like to say, “pro-torture advocates who oppose medical science”.

      Kevin’s dangerous nonsense and delusional claims of victory against the forces of good remind me of crackpot religious fanatics such as Bryan Fischer and Ann Coulter, two people in Sabet’s camp on marijuana legalization.

      Southern Poverty Law Center’s “HateWatch” and People for the American Way’s “Right Wing Watch” keep tabs on religious wackos like Fischer and Coulter, but they’re not doing it with regard to Sabet. Religious Right Watch is another site that isn’t taking a close look at Sabet, or the Baha’i. All that needs to change.

      Sabet’s Baha’i religion is a mystic offshoot of Sufism, which is a mystic offshoot of Islam. It’s a right wing religion that truly functions as one, and has been persecuted as a result. For instance, as a modern religion, it is indifferent to the harms being done to the environment. The Baha’i believe God will solve the climate warming problem for them, that they don’t need to do anything to help the current situation. And when a government enforces anti-marijuana laws, it is enforcing Kevin’s religious beliefs, which detest marijuana. Sounds familiar, right?

      It’s fair to say that Sabet hates marijuana consumers the same way certain members of the Christian or Islamic clergy hate LBGTQs. S.A.M. is a cover organization for a hate group, a group that doesn’t care if young children die of epilepsy or cancer due to lack of treatment using cannabinoids – the unfortunate result is considered God’s will. Sabet needs to be treated like any malevolent clergyman who is anti-medicine, as someone who constitutes a real threat to the health of peaceful, law-abiding citizens.

    • Frank W. says:

      Actionnewsteam told me this morning that the woman who drove her car through Vegas crowds had marijuana in her system according to a toxicology (!) report. Sabet may think he’s found a new Len Bias case. He’s wrong.

  27. Duncan20903 says:


    From the “hey, doesn’t that render your arguments about more potent cannabis irrelevant?” category: The National Institute of Drug Abuse says:

    Effects of marijuana – with and without alcohol – on driving performance

    In the study, more than 50 percent of participants controlled their marijuana inhalations (called titration) so they had consistent blood THC peak concentrations, regardless of the percentage of THC in the marijuana (2.9% vs. 6.7%). This shows that past driving studies based on cannabis dose rather than blood THC may have missed the importance of dose titration. In addition, it was found that low amounts of alcohol significantly increased peak THC concentrations.

    The study likens THC blood levels at 13.9 ng/ml to 0.08g/210L breath alcohol concentrations.

    • strayan says:

      Oh man that’s a nice find. Expect them to remove that tid as soon as it’s brought to their attention.

  28. Fruitcake says:


    Russia agrees that the Demon herb needs to be stopped. They gave us the Czars , glorious communism and now strong men like Putin! Stick your head in the sand and bleat: America baaaahd. America baaahd! Mother Russia will give you free vodka and keep you drug free for eternity!

    • Servetus says:

      Wow. Good find. Putin is going full Vatican when it comes to violating people’s human rights with respect to drug use. Putin, being the idiot psychopath, murderer, and narcissist he is, naturally fits right in with the prohibitionist mindset:

      In July Russian prosecutors declared the Soros Foundation and the MacArthur Foundation “undesirable groups.” The move was prompted by reports from regional authorities that were concerned about alleged subversive activities by certain organizations.

      Under Russian law all citizens and organizations are banned from any cooperation with undesirable groups under threat of administrative fines. Members of banned NGOs who persist in their intention to carry out activities on Russian territory can face prison sentences of up to six years.

      President Vladimir Putin has ruled out the possibility of the legalization of soft drugs in Russia. The main argument is that marijuana consumption often makes people more open to the idea of “hard” drugs that cause addiction and ruin lives.

      Meet the new enemy, just like the old enemy. Putinism. No doubt Drug WarRant fits the category of “undesirable group”, and any Russian dissident who posts here risks being fined. Incredible.

      • Duncan20903 says:


        “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.” ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche

  29. DdC says:

    How Many People Fatally Overdosed On Marijuana
    CN December 29, 2015
    By Kim Bellware, The Huffington Post

    USA — With marijuana now legal in some form throughout 23 states, the number of Americans who fatally overdosed on the drug last year was significant:

    The rate of absolutely zero deaths from a marijuana overdose remained steady from last year, according to figures released this month by the Centers for Disease Control. But while Americans aren’t dying as a result of marijuana overdoses, the same can’t be said for a range of other substances, both legal and illicit.

    A total of 17,465 people died from overdosing on illicit drugs like heroin and cocaine last year, while 25,760 people died from overdosing on prescription drugs, including painkillers and tranquilizers like Valium, according to CDC figures.

    Opioid overdose levels rose so sharply in 2014 — spiking 14 percent from the previous year — the CDC described the levels as “epidemic.”

    According to a widely cited 2006 report in American Scientist, “alcohol is more lethal than many other commonly abused substances.” The report further puts the lethality of various substances in perspective:

    Though marijuana has yet to lead to a fatal overdose in the U.S., it does have the potential to be abused and lead to dangerous behaviors like drugged driving — but taking too much will likely lead to, if anything, a really bad trip.

    Despite the changing tide in American attitudes toward marijuana for both therapeutic and recreational uses, legalization is still vigorously opposed by groups like the pharmaceutical lobby (who stand to lose big if patients turn to medical marijuana for treatment) and police unions (who stand to lose federal funding for the war on drugs).

    Even among 2016 presidential contenders, Democratic hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the only candidate from either party to support outright legalization of marijuana by removing it from the federal list of Schedule 1 drugs, which includes substances like heroin and LSD.

  30. DdC says:

    CSA California Weekly Roundup: December 21, 2015

    State regulation error results in California cities
    rushing to ban medical marijuana dispensaries

    A year after Congress voted to end war on medical pot, raids continue in California
    Marijuana grower Basil McMahon with his crop in Grass Valley, Calif. A new package of state laws will clarify California’s regulation of the medical marijuana industry, beginning in 2018. (Randall Benton / Sacramento Bee)

    Ad for state pot czar: New form of reefer madness?
    It surely looked like reefer madness was back the other day, when the state began advertising for a new medical marijuana czar. The timing of the listing, coming while a dozen proposed ballot initiatives to legalize recreational pot are pending, appeared to suggest an assumption by Gov. Jerry Brown and his administration that at least one will pass.

    Cities opt for local control over medical marijuana
    A customer talks to a clerk at the now-closed Hortipharm marijuana dispensary in Santa Barbara in 2007. Cities across Santa Barbara County have been grappling with regulations in light of a March deadline to determine local laws.

  31. Servetus says:

    More propaganda from the Dark Side. The Journal of Drug and Alcohol Dependence launched some of its filth recently, thereby harming the scientific environment; “Effects of marijuana use on impulsivity and hostility in daily life” :

    “Forty-three participants with no substance dependence reported on their alcohol consumption, tobacco use, recreational marijuana use, impulsivity, and interpersonal hostility over the course of 14 days. Responses were analyzed using multilevel modeling.”


    Marijuana use is associated with changes in impulse control and hostility in daily life. This may be one route by which deleterious effects of marijuana are observed for mental health and psychosocial functioning. Given the increasing prevalence of recreational marijuana use and the potential legalization in some states, further research on the potential consequences of marijuana use in young adults’ day-to-day life is warranted.

    The study is behind a $31.50 paywall, and was published as long ago as March 1, 2015. And now, after all this time, a trash article by Jessica Eggert, who probably didn’t read the science publication, nor would she understand it if she did, is spreading the old reefer madness nonsense once again.

    As for pathological effects on impulse control, marijuana has indeed affected naive, aspiring young journalists who impulsively go on to wreck their careers by writing bogus marijuana scare stories.

  32. DdC says:

    I chose not to pass this one on due to total lack of ethics. Again it just boggles the mind how warped these so called journalists and their rags are. Bogus testing results sprayed all over the news. Nothing connecting anything with cannabis. I noticed this potential threat, as they always say since they have no science backing up their gossip. Another possible symptom of Ganja is considered news. While fat pharma side effects are most of the time in drug commercials. Suicidal tenancies, loss of skin, organ damage and even death and it is not news.

    Now smoking a joint and reading gossip gets stoners pissed and its like some revelation or proof that prohibition makes some kind of sense. Which it doesn’t. Here are some really good examples of just how screwed up prohibitionists reporters really are.

    Can you imagine if cannabis actually had any of these side effects it would not get a minute of debate or consideration. A trillion dollars spent to make shit up and no one thinks that is a waste of taxes? OK to spend tax harassing sick people and kick kids out of school for possession or even admitting past use can lose a tuition grant or Pell grant. Just totally ridiculous.

    Drug Worriers preferred methods of treatment…
    Preferred Treatment of Racketeering Opponents
    of a 4 yr old girl using cannabis for Epileptic seizures

  33. “Congress Did Not Legalize Medical Marijuana” https://t.co/xhTae63P1u

    “A year after Congress voted to end war on medical pot, raids continue in California” http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pot-congress-20151228-story.html

    “The two members of Congress who championed the new approach say prosecutors are not following Congress’ intent.”

  34. Swooper says:

    Happy New Year To All!!

    Hopefully 2016 will be a turning point and more states will legalize cannabis. We need to work on getting drug war prisoners released and pardoned. We need to work on getting the right to use cannabis in one’s own personal time (as opposed to on an employer’s time). Impairment testing would remove the pee-in-a-cup presumption that metabolites indicate intoxication.

    These are only a few things we need to focus on this new year, but I think they are important.

    • darkcycle says:

      The Big Money Cannabis initiative backed by the MPP is still pending. There were no fewer than four different cannabis initiatives vying for space on the Cali ballot. https://ballotpedia.org/California_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative_%282016%29

      • Duncan20903 says:


        Indeed they are. I do apologize. I forgot to turn on my brain when I got out of bed yesterday. My other brain is in the shop for repairs and this rental brain has a completely different operating system. If I had remembered to power it up, then I just might have realized that if we were shut out in California it would be a not insignificant event. There probably would have been a whole bunch of MSM outlets reporting it, not just a throwaway from a relatively unfriendly metropolitan area.

        Also I did learn that the lunatics collecting signatures for their ballot initiative promoting a practical re-criminalization are still alive. In some of the darker corners of my mind we want to see it get on the ballot. Prohibition going mano a mano with regulated re-legalization. One vote, up or down losing side commits harakiri. Does re-criminalization have any chance of being approved by California voters?

  35. jean valjean says:

    Something (apart from Kevie) is rotten in the State of Florida:


    “Government creates a black market of drugs and blood money through prohibition, then under the War on Drugs it grants itself the power to break the law and get involved in money laundering operations. While the professed goal is to “sting” the bad guys, government rakes in millions upon millions of dollars to further bolster its prohibition and war on drugs.”

  36. Windy says:

    Happy New Year to all those hanging out on Pete’s couch.

  37. jean valjean says:

    Obama is proposing to use executive action to “end gun violence.” I can think of at least one far more realistic way he might use executive action to reduce gun violence: legalize and regulate drugs. As he’s meeting with Loretta Lynch that option seems unlikely to be on their agenda.


  38. DdC says:

    ☮ Pseudoscience and conspiracy theory
    are not victimless crimes against science

    In every country, we should be teaching our children the scientific method and the reasons for a Bill of Rights. With it comes a certain decency, humility and community spirit. In the demon-haunted world that we inhabit by virtue of being human, this may be all that stands between us and the enveloping darkness.
    ~ Carl Sagan

    ☮ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXs0uZkWcAASMz4.jpg

    ☮ The Demon-haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

    “There are wonders enough out there without our inventing any.”
    ~ Carl Sagan

    ☮ Voting on Marijuana ballotpedia

    ☮ California Marijuana Legalization Initiative (2016)

    Marijuana Policy Project is sponsoring the initiative.

    Supporters: Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom (D)

    “Marijuana prohibition has had an enormously detrimental impact on California communities. It’s been ineffective, wasteful and counterproductive. It’s time for a more responsible approach. Regulating and taxing marijuana similarly to alcohol just makes sense.”
    ~ Rob Kampia

    “I don’t like drug abuse, or drug use. That said, I dislike the ‘war on drugs’ more. It is a war on people of color, it is a war on poor people, and it is an outrage.”
    ~ Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom

    Opposition: Kevin Abraham Sabet-Sharghi
    “The current marijuana industry is acting a lot like the tobacco industry: Ruthlessly promote your product, target kids and downplay harms.

    Kevin A. Sabet is an ass-
    istant professor of psychiatry
    and Director of the Drug
    Policy Institute at the University of Florida

  39. Duncan20903 says:


    To date the most absurd yet still the most amusing reason to continue our embrace of this epic failure of public policy we call prohibition which I’ve encountered? —> Monsanto would corner the market after genetically altering the entire genus. That would compel people to engage in acts of industrial sabotage including dropping or launching male pollen scattering bombs to ruin their enemies’ crops or to sue them for patent infringement.

    I’ve got to admit that I can’t argue with that logic.

  40. Fruitcake says:


    God bless Sweden. Protecting the world from the Satanic hemp cactus! Just beware of the brown skinned foreigners…

  41. claygooding says:

    Knock knock,,,hollifucking days are over and the beat goes on!!!

  42. cy klebs says:

    NORML in High Times during the 80’s quoted the Donald as having a more cognitive approach to drugs issues. Never vote for any party that advocates TY-DY-Bowl justice! Then and now!

  43. allan says:

    hey, couchmates…

    I know I’ve hermitized myself pretty well but I am still missing shit that make me have a wtf moment? So who tf or wtf is ‘fuckmickey’? I saw one of his FB memes pass by (the mis-appropriation of what was once a fine word) the other day but it looked stupid and I ignored it. But I see plenty of my activist mates liking his dung. What am I missing? As it’s cannabis related I fail to see the connection since my experience w/ cannabis is that it’s about anything but hate and bad ‘tude.

    Any help in understanding would be apperkiated. And now I’ll repeat that for those of you on drugs… 🙂

    • Servetus says:

      “…hate and bad tude,” Thom Hartmann at AlterNet agrees: “The Big Lie in the War Against Drugs: Since the beginning, the War on Drugs has been about controlling political power–by breaking up Black communities and the dissident left.”


    • darkcycle says:

      Mickey Martin. Do I have to say more?

      • allan says:

        until yesterday I had never heard of the idjit…

        • darkcycle says:

          He was the guy behind the Candy bust in 2007. http://stopthedrugwar.org/load.php?q=node/8429 He was agitating against Initiative 19 in Cali, he’s opposed to the current initiative(s)and he is against any form of regulations at all on pot. He wants to “free the weed” but only his way. Otherwise? He’s fine with keeping prohibition and arresting people. He’s also really good at being abrasive and name calling anybody he disagrees with. He and Russ Belleville have an ongoing feud, and I blocked him when he started with name calling and profanity after I disagreed with him on one of his posts. He has a blog, and he does regular searches for his name, so I expect him to jump in at any time now.

        • allan says:

          thanks dc… I poked around and found he is his biggest fan. Not interested in spending too much of my time studying idjits. Flag ’em and move on.

          I think one of the things I found most annoying was others in the movement that I’ve known for years and respect are liking this guy’s BS. I’m reminded of an old and wise Buddhist saying… “everybody’s shit stinks.”

  44. DdC says:

    The Illusion of Choice
    90% of American Media Controlled by 6 Corporations
    It is worth repeating again and again that the bulk of America’s mainline media is owned and controlled by a mere 6 corporations. This, of course, means that unless you’re already consciously avoiding these mainline media sources, then most of the news and entertainment that makes it onto your screen and into your mind comes from a small pool of corporate sources, all of which play important roles in delivering propaganda, social programming and perpetual crisis narratives to the public.

    The promotion of shallow, materialistic, ego-centric values, and the obvious dumbing down of the American population is coming from these 6 corporations. Think about that. These are the companies that glorify consumption, obedience, ignorance, the hyper-sexualization of youth, the glorification of war and government surveillance, and so on. The advertisers that support these media companies have tremendous sway over what makes it on the airwaves. They help to control public perception.

    11 Tactics Used by the Mainstream Media to Manufacture Consent for the Oligarchy

    The Illusion of Choice.jpg
    NOTE: This infographic is not completely up to date and is missing some key transactions. GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any media) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn’t own AOL, so Huffington Post isn’t affiliated with them. It still shows how much of a monopoly the ‘Big 6’ is.

    The inbedwith dis-infotainment
    The Corporate Muzzle

    • Mouth says:

      I remember back in the mid-90’s when a song from Rage Against the Machine’s second album sung about what you just said.

  45. mr Ikasheeni says:

    These links -R- from 3 years ago!

    • DdC says:

      August 28, 2015
      The Illusion of Choice:
      90% of American Media Controlled by 6 Corporations

      July 8, 2014
      11 Tactics Used by the Mainstream Media
      to Manufacture Consent for the Oligarchy

      Last Edited By: DdC Nov 20 12,
      The inbedwith dis-infotainment
      The Corporate Muzzle
      Some of the articles are older than that.
      Might be why it’s an archive…
      that’s アーカイブ 脳たりん クソトロール

  46. Mr_Alex says:

    The Ultimate Hypocrisy by the New Zealand Government, is anyone here familiar with the Vin Mariani aka Coca Wine, it is listed as a Class A substance by the New Zealand Government

    • jean valjean says:

      Yes, I believe Queen Victoria used it for period pains. Contains cocaine diluted in alcohol. It would also be class A in Britain, though schedule 2 in US. But then, when did these drug war classifications have anything to do with science or logic? A 19th century pope was a fan and now pope Frankie has tried coca tea on his recent S. America tour.


      • Mr_Alex says:

        Apparently in Hong Kong where i was brought up, the Vin Mariani is also a Class A substance as well from what i heard from the Police Officers in Hong Kong, being caught manufacturing it has some dire consequences in Hong Kong

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