Open Thread

bullet image Absolutely outstanding response to the Big Marijuana nonsense: Marijuana Legalization: The Big Tobacco Smokescreen by Jon Gettman

Big Marijuana? It’s catchy, but comparing legalized marijuana to the tobacco industry misleads both the public and policymakers about the challenges of regulating this industry. […]

However, marijuana regulations need to be devised on solid information and experience, and not on the basis of superficial analogies, and most certainly not based on hypocrisy. Big Marijuana already exists — it’s also called the Black Market. Public concern over a large, unregulated, socially irresponsible marijuana market is, and should be, argument number one in support of marijuana’s legalization.

bullet image Native American reservations now free to legalize marijuana

The Justice Department said Thursday it will no longer prosecute federal laws regulating the growing or selling of marijuana on reservations, even when state law bans the drug.

The government will let tribal governments decide what to do about pot.

bullet image So, apparently Congress blocked the implementation of Washington DC’s vote for legalization. Or maybe they didn’t. Depends on who you read and how they interpret the language of the amendment. I’ll wait and see.

However, it’s always interesting to follow the money. Why Is This Maryland Republican Really Trying to Block D.C.’s Pot Legalization?

As for why Harris has made this fight against D.C. democracy his primary cause, the Attn. blog looked into the congressman’s biggest donors and found that a Maryland-based company called Emergent BioSolutions near the top of the list.

Attn.’s Matthew Seagel reports:

One of Emergent’s products is epsil, “a fast-acting treatment that reduces the pain associated with oral mucositis,” which is a common complication of chemotherapy from cancer treatment. According to its website, “by reducing the pain associated with OM, episil® may help you maintain proper nutrition and a level of comfort—and may allow you to continue your cancer therapy uninterrupted.”

So what does any of this mean?

Marijuana (cannabis) is a huge combatant against many of the deleterious effects of cancer and chemotherapy, and thus a hugely disruptive threat to Emergent’s business model.

No surprise there.

bullet image U.S. marijuana foes discuss launching tax-exempt funding body

Marijuana legalization opponents could launch a tax-exempt fundraising body as early as next year that would let them shield donors, part of a broader 2016 election strategy aimed at raising more cash and merging political factions, activists said on Wednesday. […]

Smart Approaches to Marijuana President Kevin Sabet, who said he pushed for the tax-exempt group, said there was a moment of relief over a U.S. spending bill that bars the nation’s capital from using funds to implement legal pot.

Sabet said the group also discussed lobbying 2016 presidential candidates and appealing to wealthy donors like casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, who spent some $4 million campaigning against Florida’s medical pot initiative, as well as corporations concerned about stoned workers and liability.

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49 Responses to Open Thread

  1. Tony Aroma says:

    I can’t help but be a bit suspicious about the DOJ out of the clear blue issuing another “Cole memo” aimed specifically at Native American reservations. Based on previous memos, it’s certainly not any kind of guarantee. And wouldn’t the previous memos already apply to reservations? So what gives? Is this some kind of trap? Is the DOJ trying to create new markets for their smash and grabs, aka raids and asset seizures? I doubt very many tribes will be any more reassured by this memo than the banks were by the memo aimed at them. Whatever their motive, this is just another attempt by the administration to appear to be doing something, when it fact they’re doing absolutely nothing with respect to prohibition (unless you count blocking DC legalization). Maybe that’s it, they’re trying to draw attention away from their attempt to negate the votes of DC residents.

  2. DdC says:

    Same non binding cole memo of non enforcement of cannabis or hemp. Both still scheduled as a class#1 narcotic. A break in PC areas until the next election. Then the new boss makes the non binding rules or continues the Ganjawar.

    The Ganjawar Comes to the The Rez

    Obama Backs DC Vote to Legalize Marijuana – ABC News via @ABC

  3. primus says:

    Seems like if they can get tax exempt status for opposition to legalisation, then WE could get tax exempt status for supporting legalisation. If they are tax exempt it is illogical that we would not also be exempt. They have bigger donors, but we can do so much with so little that if we just had some resources to spread the truth, the game would truly be over for prohibition.

    • Howard says:

      Depending on how certain drug reform organizations are structured, tax exemption already exists. For example, donations to the Marijuana Policy Project are not tax exempt since they are a lobbying organization. However, donations to the MPP Foundation are tax exempt since that arm is registered as an educational organization. This dual structuring is true of other similar entities.

  4. free radical says:

    We’re just going to steal your ancestral land and mine it down to a barren husk. So in exchange, we’ll allow you to be the stewards of our legal cannabis trade, just like you are currently the stewards of our gambling habit.

    The timing… A bit obvious, don’t you think?

    • Windy says:


      Robert Safer Clark wrote:

      As soon as it went public that the feds are going to allow Native American Tribes to write there own laws concerning cannabis/hemp, Safer Arizona started reaching out to our brothers to see if we could help in anyway. We have been met with enthusiasm. I asked Mikel Weisser to start talking with his contacts and I have done the same. We want to help those interested in cannabis for any of it’s uses to develop good working laws. We have meetings with Tribal leaders and will be working with them to get this done and end prohibition.
      This could be the end of prohibition. We will keep you informed and release information as we can.

  5. claygooding says:

    “”Sabet said the group also discussed lobbying 2016 presidential candidates and appealing to wealthy donors like casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, who spent some $4 million campaigning against Florida’s medical pot initiative, as well as corporations concerned about stoned workers and liability.””

    A lot of people,including Sucbet,,don’t know that Adelson is a huge contributor to Israeli MMJ research but happens to be courting the Republican run Florida legislature for licenses for his casinos to move into FLA,,we should be hearing if he won his licenses soon.

    The Indian thing really has me baffled,,it has the possibility of putting legal marijuana in nearly every state and waiting for the prohibition bought politicians to start crying is nerve racking,,,don’t you know they must be keeping a microphone away from Grassley.

  6. D̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ Do It says:

    Mr Kevin Sabet, the existential despair you’re feeling is very common among people who finally realize the utter futility and destructiveness of their entire life’s work. But even in your deepest moments of anguish and utter hopelessness, it is still possible for you to emerge and find a sense of peace and a painless conclusion to your suffering. In this day and age we have great means to alleviate mental or physical pain, even compared to just five years ago —Kevin, we MILDLY implore you to consider a less permanent and devastating solution than the one you must now hopefully be considering.

  7. Servetus says:

    Kevin Sabet’s decision to seek funding for his anti-marijuana crusade is a bit late. It’s as if the Titanic hit the iceberg and Kevin is saying all that’s needed to save it are empty buckets and a few people to bail the thing out. Lifeboats are a better option. Kevin and the rest of the prohibitionists need to find theirs quickly.

    “…all we have is Kevin Sabet.” – Robert L. DuPont

  8. allan says:

    OT in an open thread… some may remember last winter and spring I had a young housemate, Little Miss Appleseed. Well, we’ve done so much work together that I had to have a site specifically for that work. And it has nothing to do w/ drug policy other than we both are cannabis consumers…

    … and while it doesn’t yet, it will contain adult content. If you are so inclined it is here:

    and it won’t be just nudie pics. Part of my reason for doing this is all of the crappy-ass nude photography that floods the wwweb these days pisses me off. Nasty ain’t beauty. Beauty takes a deeper understanding of life and the threads that connect all things.

  9. mr Ikasheeni says:

    And the Koch funded group ALEC, the sponsors of “smoke a bong, lose benefits.” in various states.

    • Windy says:

      Seems odd that the Koch brothers would fund an organization that opposes ending the drug war and promotes drug testing in the workplace and for welfare recipients, since those brothers have a very strong libertarian streak and do not personally oppose cannabis use. Either they do not know that org is promoting that or they changed their stance and are now going against what they’ve previously supported.

      • B. Snow says:

        Yep, that’s some “streak of Libertarianism” they have there, aka pretending they don’t care about personal vices when it suits them…

        I suspect their public stance of – Well, no we “don’t personally oppose cannabis use” is about as sincere and deeply held = at a level somewhere between Ron Paul and Rand Paul.

        Somewhere between: I believe “it’s a State’s Rights issue”, and not the Federal Government’s business to decide for us….

        And when further pressed said = No, I don’t want to have it be made legal in my district or state – No.

        “Why? Well… I just don’t think it would be right for us ~> I don’t believe we should legalize it here – we should decriminalize it, to avoid spending money on police enforcement of those laws. You know to “End the Drug War” – but actually Legalizing all of “The Pot” & harder drugs would send the wrong message to the children, IMO.

        And it would upset many of the senior citizen constituents in my district who vote for me. They want me work to end “the welfare state” and stop the handouts to all the minorities -that just create more dependency- and the lazy people who refuse to work 2 or 3 minimum wage service-industry jobs to barely support their families.

        Or when they won’t insist that their spouses work as much as they possibly can too, while still taking care of the children.
        Unless of course they couldn’t because they’d done like so many of them these days = who’ve been having babies out of wedlock! Something, I saw all too often in my medical practice that increased with each passing year.

        And we should do like many have suggested and drug test all those who’re applying for handouts because you never know how many are gonna be coming to work stoned & dangerous…”

        And so on, and so forth = with the Elder Paul speaking thoughts that he really should keep between himself and his inner monologue, or maybe his inner dialogue(?) That would explain a few things.

        The younger Paul has learned that he MUST stop to making these statements whenever he can manage to avoid doing so.
        (He’s apparently been developing a filter for these sort of impolitic, undiplomatic, unwise comments) = That is typically a prerequisite for getting into politics – and running for public office… But, for whatever reason(s), its been much less so in recent years.

        Although Rand Paul got clobbered by much of the Media when he made the very obvious and legitimate argument that Eric Garner wouldn’t be dead if it weren’t for the insane sumptuary tax (aka sin-tax) placed on cigarettes in New York.
        It roughly doubles the price creating room for an un-taxed blackmarket for cigarettes, along with the *minimum price for any tobacco product package* tactic that Bloomberg pushed in his attempt to prevent poor folk from bring able to easily purchase them…

        Which created the market-space for people to buy single “loosey” cigs, afaik this is NY/NYC thing… that may have existed in the past as a mostly a convenience to poor folks that some store owners/workers(?)

        Liberals acted like this was a crass “Anti-Tax” argument that avoided the cops choking a dude to arrest him & believeing the = “if you can talk you can breathe” attitude of the cops – neglecting to check his airway – made no attempt at CPR, Etc.

        I automatically got Rand Paul’s point & appreciated the observation, because it was closer to the source of the problem.
        Earlier today Joe Scarborough made the statement/observation (?) that had all 5 of those cops had been wearing body cameras Garner would be alive.

        That’s probably right, BUT – if cigs still cost $2 or so a pack (maybe $3) if they hadn’t had a “War on Joe Camel” in the 90’s & the insane judgement that the cig makers passed on to the consumer & the general acceptance of artificially inflating tobacco prices… = So people can’t afford as many, and “that’s done outta good intentions so its okay”, then Garner might be alive today as well… But the Nannies, Scolds, & *holier than thou Ex-Smokers* (who seem scared they might start again if they could afford it) – None of them seem to be sble to acknowledge this.

        And yet still the liberal Nanny-Staters act like Rand Paul ran up to the camera, unzipped his pants, and slapped them across the face with an evil giant phallus that had “Taxes are Bad” tattooed along the side!

  10. Duncan20903 says:


    IMO the Native American thing is not permission to legalize, it’s permission to keep it criminalized. There’s really no controversy among NA authorities. They believe that their people need to be infantilized.

    During the Alaska campaign there were quite a few tribal authorities who were upset that despite being able to “opt out” of allowing a regulated retail distribution chain they weren’t going to be able to keep possession criminalized. These communities also criminalize possession of drinking alcohol. A critical reading of the DoJ memo should result in the conclusion that it doesn’t just give authority to legalize, it gives the authority to keep possession criminalized.

    It will be a practical impossibility for any tribal sovereignty to set up a for profit business that generates significant gross revenues beyond perhaps a “cannabis tourist” type of business. That’s if they’re even interested. I could be wrong but I don’t think that the fans of cannabis include a lot of gamblers. At least not the type that think that there’s any gambling going on in a casino. Hey, for it to be actual gambling both sides of the bet have to have a reasonable possibility of being the winner or the loser.

    There are NA casinos that are dry. I don’t think that anyone should start counting the days before they find cannabis for sale from a NA sovereign. But the Alaska Tribes can still arrest people for possession in their bailiwick. Hey, somebody call Dan Snyder and tell him to get Fed-Ex Field qualified as a Federal government recognized reservation. Maybe then they’ll stop pestering him about the team’s name.

    Did I manage to avoid all the PC landmines?

    • allan says:

      PC wha..? And for those that find Duncan has crossed yet another barrier of social correctivenessity try this:

    • claygooding says:

      Duncan,,if you lived in the middle of the Plains Indians instead of the Northern tribes you would know that just a tourist thing is right up their alley,,,every Casino in OKLA with a “Smoke room” and selling nothing but joints will be fine with them.

    • darkcycle says:

      I have refrained from saying so, but I was thinking the very same thing. The tribes are not pot friendly. I walk off my block to the west, and I’m in the reservation, and the Lummi are already trying to keep legal weed out.

      • claygooding says:

        That was before the Federal government offered them a temporary monopoly in a majority of the states where billions can be made until state governments catch up and offer competition for the market dollar,,,I wish we could watch the traffic flow of “advisers” going through every tribe right now.

        To top it all off,,the NA”s are state tax exempt,,,which really knocks the hell out of huge tax revenue if you are trying to be competitive.

        The neat part about selling joints only is that if they catch anyone carrying a joint off of tribal and it can’t be charged as trafficking and the tribe is seen as actively inhibiting the marijuana sold becoming part of the black market

      • divadab says:

        I agree, DC. The Rez police are of the “drugs are bad” variety and it’s deep. If they only knew the benefits of the medicine, especially in helping people cope with other addictions (esp. alcohol).

        The only approach I could see working with tribal leadership would be as for casinos – here’s a way to create employment and profits on the rez exploiting the (non-native) people who frequent the casino.

    • John McCain and Congress helping mining company steal ancestral, ceremonial Apache land

      Marijuana is big news. This was parked in a corner of the internet.

  11. Do you agree with the decision of Congress to block D.C. pot legalization?

    93.34% say no so far. Take that Andy Harris.

    • claygooding says:

      I may not have seen the part that blocks “legalization”,,I saw where they blocked funding any kind of legal market but it does not require funding to stop arresting and prosecuting people and unless they plan on charging for a license to grow your own it costs nothing to implement growing your own.

      • kaptinemo says:

        This is why I have been harping about the Hatch Act for years.

        When applied as it should be, as it was in Oregon, it stops the prohibs cold from using our tax dollars to politic against us. The Hatch Act denies them the use of the cachet of their offices, implying they know what they are talking about, to promote their hidden corp-rat sponsored agenda by freely disseminating lies cloaked in the raiment of officaldom

        We should not have had to ‘re-invent the wheel’, here. It should not have been necessary to make this addition to the legislation and have to waste so much time and energy on getting it passed. As Oregon proved, despite the best efforts of prohibs in the past, the Hatch Act still lives and breathes…and has teeth when acknowledged as being ‘the law of the Land’.

        But now the idea of the restriction is out there; a reality…and muzzling the excesses of the prohibs which have led to such spectacles as Ferguson, proven it has the necessary support amongst the electorate. A confluence of forces from different directions is leading to a thrust of change powered by numerous factors but all leading to a major shift in American politics. And it was predicted here that this issue, strange as it seemed at the time, would be the catalyst.

        And, also as predicted here, all it has taken was two election cycles. Those more intelligent pols not ideologically with us are shrewd enough to realize the political wind is changing direction rapidly; a point to note when it’s time to relieve one’s self. Those pols not smart enough to drop prohibition like it’s both radioactive and virulent will become political gristle in the new electorate’s social mill. Not bad for a bunch of ‘amotivated’ ‘stoners’, huh?

        Next front: linguistics, again. We taught the LameStream Media to say ‘prohibition’; now it’s time to make sure the media understands that since we’ve shown our abilities politically, that the language must once more change.

        WE ARE CANNABISTS, ‘Cannabis consumers’, is fine. But we should ‘always and ever’ insist on why we don’t refer to it as ‘marijuana’ (Anslinger, racist, hated Hispanics, used word to denigrate them, etc.) every chance we get…and point out that since it was a racist who dreamed up the word, why do our opponents insist upon using it? Perhaps their obstinence on this issue is betraying another example of dog-whistle politics?

        As Ethan Nadelmann proved with Sabet, you go after them hammer-and-tongs, and they wilt like celery in a blowtortch. Sabet was their best, by DuPont’s own admission, and he was bested. Shot down in flames, trailing thick smoke, and too high an angle to survive impact. This is why he’s trying to get cagey with this tax-exempt crap. He’s hoping to sub-contract his BS, I suppose. But after being at ONDCP while it was both wasting a billion dollars on a failed PR campaign, while being taken to the cleaners by the company conducting it, I think it’s reasonable to assume that donors might be leery of him for some time. Especially when it is so easy to ferret out their mercenary corp-rat motives behind their faux moral panicking courtesy of the Internet.

        They are so outclassed, technologically as well as intellectually, that they really, really should just give up now. If they slink off the stage, maybe when it’s reckoning time, they might be forgotten. Maybe…

    • Windy says:

      Great comment on that article from scdrake:

      I believe this bill removes the gov’t from the whole process of mj regulation.
      Mj was already decriminalized back in July. Then it was legalized by vote in Nov. The results are in and they have been accepted and verified. The winners will take office at the appropriate time and the losers will step down. In the same time; new laws require a period to be recorded in the books and spread throughout the land. It’s simply a formality. The law is, what it is, and that law is legalized marijuana.
      Now it looks like the government has written a law that prevents them from becoming involved in that process. Meaning marijuana has been legalized and the gov’t has written a law that prevents officials from spending money to make regulations; effectively making it a free for all. If the bill says they can’t use the money for mj law regulation… well, which law? the current one or the old one that was replaced. It doesn’t make sense if you write bills about old laws that don’t exist anymore.
      All the other election results are valid. Elected officials who lose an election don’t just walk away the next day. It’s a formal process. Reading this bill means the gov’t will not be involved in mj regulation. It does not say mj laws will revert to pre-election days.
      It says that this batch of federal funds cannot be used for mj regulation but it does not say mj regulation can’t go forward with non-federal funds.
      This bill specifically addresses how money can or can’t be spent. It does not address the current legality of marijuana.

      Anybody have any input or insight on his interpretation?

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  13. Servetus says:

    Dawn Paley, a Canadian journalist, has a new book out called Drug War Capitalism. In it she says drug enforcement is being used to expand transnational corporate markets:

    In a sweeping and thoroughly researched analysis, Canadian journalist Dawn Paley debunks the alleged war on drugs south of the US border. Paley exposes it as a pretext for extending US militarization to, and control of, nations to enhance transnational business opportunities and to prevent populist uprisings. It isn’t a war to improve civil society and prevent drug trafficking; it is a violence-centered policy to broaden the reach of global capitalism.[…]

    Dawn Paley: There is excellent work being done in the US examining and resisting the impacts of the drug war, specifically when it comes to the mass incarceration of young people from communities of color on that pretext. Drug War Capitalism looks at how the drug war is deployed south of the US border, where the key mechanism for social control is the use of terror against the people/el pueblo/los pueblos. Some activists and writers use words like social cleansing to describe the impacts of drug war militarization and paramilitarization, and how both primarily target poor young men in urban and rural environments.

  14. DdC says:

    American Indians can now legally grow marijuana:

    Tribes to U.S. Government: Take Your Weed and Shove It via @abbyhaglage
    In a strange move, the Justice Department issued a memo allowing Native Americans to grow marijuana on their lands. But after a troubled history with alcohol, some tribes are wary.

    Oh let us stay on welfare and have our land stolen by mining corporations. Poverty is what the Casino Tribes push.

    The Ganjawar Comes to the The Rez

    • claygooding says:

      Good seeds + good growers + greenhouse equals appx $2 or less per gram primo.

      TeaShops inside casinos limit sales to 2 grams and they avoid any of their products hitting the blackmarket or the local highschool.

      OK,AZ,and some other states have casinos all over them,,others have Bingo games,,,as long as they don’t hire Mark Kleiman they can sell grams in their outlets at $5 a gram and bank millions before the state can get into the competition.

      • primus says:

        With wages, licencing fees, taxes etc. (and you bet the tribal elders will want a taste) the cost will be at least $5 per gram, but even so, $10 grams are very lucrative. In the long run, however, the production of cannabis will go to tropical countries with low labour rates who will be able to produce great product for much less. The PTB will like that, for they can ‘control’ (aka tax) importation. They will also see it as a way to eliminate domestic growing.

        • claygooding says:

          The only way to stop domestic growing is prices that make it not worth the effort,,less than $5 a gram,,and I will continue helping my friends and neighbors learn how.

  15. Servetus says:

    A recent survey indicates college students who consume synthetic marijuana are partly motivated by curiosity.

    Cincinnati, OH – December 15, 2014 – The authors distributed a three-page survey that was completed by 338 students in undergraduate and graduate health programs at a public university.

    The survey found that the majority of the survey participants had not used synthetic THC – 17.1 percent of respondents reported using synthetic THC at least once in their lifetime. The study’s authors report that of those who had tried [synthetic] THC, 19.2 percent reported curiosity as the top reason for trying the substance; 17.4 percent reported using the drug for the purpose of getting high and 10.6 percent reported that the “fun of feeling high” was the main factor contributing to use.

    The authors also report that 4 percent had tried [synthetic] THC to “fit in,” and 3.8 percent felt they were peer-pressured into trying the drug.

    Until the drug war ends, and until marijuana is legal enough to displace the synthetics market, various state and municipal governments will focus on new ways using drug consumption to prosecute the curious, or “peer pressured.” It’s the government’s war on the curious, et al., and it’s been fashionable among bureaucrats for decades. While it’s no longer legal for law enforcement to arrest someone in the U.S. for reading a particular book, arresting people for exhibiting curiosity, people who do their own research on the actual effects of a drug: no problem.

  16. Howard says:

    More irrelevant nonsense form Kevin Sabet;

    “If you live 10 minutes away from a [Native American] reservation, you could be living 10 minutes away from a pot shop.”

    Don’t worry Kevin, as time goes on we’ll try and make sure that distance gets shortened. Trust us, we’re working on it.

  17. allan says:

    via Nora Callahan:

    It is with regret that I inform you of the passing of a dedicated and long standing reform mainstay. Our friend and co-worker Richard Lake passed away on December 7, 2014.

    Richard has spent decades, and untold hours, working to help bring about more sensible drug policies. Perhaps his most significant achievement, in the drug policy arena, was his incredible dedication to the Media Awareness Project (MAP) Inc. Richard spent countless hours, days, and years helping to archive what is, to this day, one of the largest and most valuable archives of drug policy related material ever assembled.

    More than 250,000 drug policy related news articles, all fully searchable on any topic of interest, can be viewed or researched at:
    Richard’s dedicated co-workers continue to build this archive
    virtually every day of the year.

    Richard also worked tirelessly to encourage a massive cadre of volunteers to write Letters To the Editor (LTE’s) to encourage more accurate reporting on drug policy issues.

    The result has been a massive public relations effort of more than 35,000 published LTEs in virtually every significant publication in the US, Canada, and worldwide. The cumulative impact of this effort, which has generated a combined ‘advertising value’ of more than $35 Million to the reform effort to date, and which was instrumental in helping to bring about a far more educated public, media, and political leadership, cannot be overstated.

    We will remember Richard’s steadfast dedication and loyalty to the principles of individual liberty and justice with pride and a great deal of gratitude. It was a pleasure knowing Richard. His dedication should be an inspiration to us all, and encourage every one of us to continue to carry the flag and move us ever closer towards freedom liberty, and justice.

    Those wishing to contribute towards keeping Richard’s dream alive may do so, on his behalf, at:

    Please feel free to forward this message to any list, group, or
    individuals whom you feel would want to be informed of Richard’s passing.

    Thank You Richard. You will be missed!


  18. Servetus says:

    Netherlands based Axim Biotechnologies is setting up to market chewing gum containing plant-extracted cannabinoids. The product comes in two forms: CanChew contains CBD, and MedChew contains THC.

    “Clinical trials are underway in Amsterdam on patients with chronic pain from Multiple Sclerosis and we anticipate this will be registered with the [US] FDA and EMA within the next two years,” he told this publication.

    “We are also starting clinical trials with cannabinoids for inflammatory bowel disease, irritable bowel disease and Crohn’s disease.”

    The trials are being carried out by Netherlands-headquartered contract research organisation (CRO) Syncom.[…]

    GW Pharma’s cannabinoid product Sativex is already approved in a number of European countries, but is alcohol-based and delivered through an oromucosal spray which Changoer said could be problematic for some patients.

    The new Dutch product could be serious competition for Sabet’s favorite Gummy Bears. Bubble-hash bubblegum, anyone?

    • NorCalNative says:

      The Care By Design CBD-THC product I’m currently using that mimics Sativex and is available in 40-something California dispensaries DOESN’T CONTAIN ALCOHOL, but instead uses coconut oil.

      And, what Kevin Sabet-Sharghi wouldn’t like folks to know is that a Sativex-like product with patient-friendly coconut oil instead of alcohol is FIVE TIMES cheaper!!!!!

      A California medicinal patient can dose at 8-sprays-per-day for a cost of approximately $240-to-$260 per month depending on dispensary. Contrast that with the Sativex cost of around $1,200-per-month.

      And, as a full-extract those currently using high-THC versions of Rick Simpson oil can switch to the 1:1 ratio with confidence.

      The chewing gum sounds like an interesting product and could even be useful for some patients. However, if it’s designed to deliver medicine without an alcohol base, Calfornia Hippie-medicine has already solved that issue.

      OT: Folks who are curious about the name Sabet-Sharghi need to visit the library of the Cannabinologist website. Sunil Kumar Aggarwal went to Berkeley with Kevin Sabet-Sharghi and has a lot of info on Kevin’s college years and how he developed quite the following of Sabet-haters based on his drug-war fervor.

      Dr. Aggarwal has also commented on this site on a few occasions.

  19. sokbam says:

    Ann Lee, executive director of the Republicans Against Marijuana Prohibition, agreed, arguing that reducing penalties for drug violations is in line with the philosophy of conservatives who “stand for freedom.”


  20. Mr_Alex says:

    Unfortunately the drug war is still very active in New Zealand

  21. Windy says:

    If anyone is interested, last night’s Coast to Coast AM (first two hours) was all about hemp, you can listen to it from the archives:

    Monday December 15, 2014
    In the first half, a pioneer of the modern U.S. hemp industry, Christopher Boucher detailed the history of hemp. Hemp is more American than apple pie when you look at just what it’s done for this country, he commented.

  22. Windy says:

    Hmm, it seems Mitch McConnell’s family is involved in smuggling cocaine:

    A cargo ship connected to Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell was recently stopped and searched before departing from Colombia. During the search, Colombian Coast Guard agents seized roughly 90 pounds of cocaine.

    The drugs were found on the Ping May, which is a vessel operated by the Foremost Maritime Corporation, a company owned by Mitch McConnell’s in-laws, the Chao family. This connection is not only relevant because of the family connection, but also because the Chao family has often made large donations to McConnell’s campaigns.

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