Having a government shutdown while the DEA goes to work is like not having enough money to buy food for your children while still buying bullets to shoot yourself in the foot.

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  1. N.T. Greene says:

    An apt analogy… if almost literally accurate.

  2. allan says:

    I’m runnin’ my own version of “they better not”… my first SS check is supposed to come next month. If they mess w/ that I’m screwed.

    Sanctimonious pricks is as nice a description for these saboteurs as I can come up with.

    • thelbert says:

      No worries, Allan. the SS checks come from a whole different pile of imaginary money. the dea will lose their funding before SS. if the currency becomes worthless, then life gets interesting. that’s when you want to have some barter goods.

      • allan says:

        thx thelbert… as to barter, I just put up a couple of jars of freshly hung, cured and manicured barter. And I don’t mean to laugh but if the currency becomes worthless “interesting” really becomes interesting… the geese are in the fields now with winter coming, the sheep are in the field next door, a family or 12 of cottontails moved into the blackberry brambles this summer when they found my cat no longer here… and a couple of my neighbors are pretty meaty… so I’ve got protein covered.

        • Plant Down Babylon says:

          I recommend da Big Island pronto. Lots of land with few inhabitants. Much meat, fruit/veggies and all the fish you can catch. Plus, a pair of swim trunks/slippahs is all you need.

          We have 11 of 13 ecosystems and Pidgin is easy to learn.

          4 outdoor harvests a year and maybe 100 kops who will join the population immediately upon the economy crashing.

          Once the planes stop flying, it will be very hard to get here.

          Aloha is truly alive and well in God’s country…

      • claygooding says:

        The checks may come from a different account but the book keepers and check writers are not working.

  3. Servetus says:

    The DEA goes to work? I thought they just did stakeouts by sitting in parked cars all night and smoking pot.

  4. DdC says:

    The DEA goes to work?

    Is that what they’re calling it now adays?
    Prostitutes don’t pay taxes as far as I know.

    “At DEA, our mission job is to fight drug pot trafficking use in order to make drug pot ab use the most expensive, unpleasant, risky, (deadly, dangerous) and disreputable form of recreation medication a person could have.”
    – Donnie Marshall,
    Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA)

    Where are all of the Taxbaggers and Norquest?
    ☛Tax Paid Drug War Industry
    ☛Tax Paid Military Industry
    ☛Tax Paid Detention Industry
    ☛Tax Paid Education vs. Incarceration
    ☛Tax Paid Corporate Welfare

    DEAth Takes a Holiday
    La Morte in Vacanza
    After years of questioning why people fear them, DEAth takes on human form for three days so that they can mingle among the mortals and find an answer. They find a host in Michele Leonhart after revealing themselves and their intentions to the Czar and takes up temporary residence in the Czar’s villa. However, events soon spiral out of control as they fall in love with the beautiful young budding cannabis plants, their users, known as tokers or stoners unafraid of them. As they fall in love with Ganja, Michele, who is also the sister of Czar’s mortal lover JPeeWaldo, begs him to give the Czarship up and leave her among the living. DEAth must decide whether or not to seek her own profits, or sacrifice, so that the people may live in peace.

  5. DdC says:

    “Pro-pot protestors had announced a smoke-out at the Liberty Bell for the afternoon of Tuesday, October 1.”

    “Park rangers (working despite the government shut-down), Philadelphia police, as well as representation from the U.S. Attorneys Office in Philadelphia, assembled to arrest protestors attempting to smoke the illegal substance – an enforcement spectacle that has occurred with regularity over the past few months during monthly pro-pot demonstrations outside the Liberty Bell.”

    “The demonstrations take place near a stone marker engraved with the words of the First Amendment – that U.S. Constitutional right that includes protections for people to protest against the Government for “redress of grievances.”

    “As the 4:20pm time of the announced smoke-out approached, the rangers put on gloves preparing to arrest protestors. But at 4:20 none of the protestors smoked any marijuana. Instead, many protestors just walked away without ‘firing up’ while uttering comments that ridiculed the assembled law enforcers for their readiness to crack down on protestors instead of keeping the budget impasse-shuttered historic sites open.”

    “Dyost, while chuckling at law enforcers getting pranked, scorned the whole idea that the Interior Department and the Justice Department would be ready to expend scarce federal funds to arrest people for consuming a substance that 18-million Americans use regularly (according to stats from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy) while refusing to staff a highly popular national park historic site.”

    “This is not a proper use of federal resources,” Dyost said. “You can’t see the Liberty Bell but there is money being spent to make sure we can’t smoke pot.”

    • kaptinemo says:

      And that is what needs to be pointed out, again and again and again, just as the ‘prohibition’ meme was, until it begins to be repeated by the mainstream media.

      We were very successful with leading the MSM, with unrelenting use of the word ‘prohibition’ in our LTE’s, in connecting the (screamingly obvious) ‘dots’ between alcohol Prohibition and it’s modern, equally illegitimate brother known as cannabis prohibition. Most MSM articles now include that comparison, to the ever-growing angst of our opponents.

      Now is the time to drive it home in no uncertain terms just how fiscally wasteful prohibition is. Now is the time to hammer away at the (again, screamingly obvious) fact that every dollar spent on cannabis prohibition is a dollar not spent on school lunches, textbooks, roads, bridges, State hospitals, old folk’s homes, etc.

      I’ve always said that we will not get anywhere talking to the general public about lost rights; they really aren’t that concerned, as they don’t believe theirs are being breached, when that occurs daily behind their backs, as recent revelations about Gub’mint agencies spying on just about everyone prove.

      Nope, talk about money. Their money. Namely, talk about their money being wasted, and why their kids stand to lose so long as money is spent on things besides their kid’s welfare. Then the lights go on in Joe and Josephine Sixpack’s eyes. Then their blood gets to boiling about something they normally couldn’t give a damn about.

      Sad, but true. Tragic, really. But that tragedy can end, as soon as the general public makes that connection that we knew about all along. And it’s up to every reformer to help bring that about.

      • Plant Down Babylon says:

        If I can just enlighten the mind of one person daily (weekly?) I will be happy.

        Kap, you’re right, it has to be a topic THEY care about.

        If we could just squeeze a tidbit of info at the bottom of every Kardashian article, that would help.

    • N.T. Greene says:

      And that day wasn’t even profitable for them, as no one got busted.

      This is why I follow Anonymous and the like. You’d be surprised how effective a well landed prank like this can be… on the affected police even.

  6. DdC says:

    Why Didn’t the Shutdown Cut Funding for the DEA? It’s One of the Least ‘Essential’ Govt. Agencies
    CC Oct 8 2013

    How American Paranoia About Islamic Terrorism Parallels the War on Drugs
    The author of the book ‘Tripping With Allah’ puts his Islamic identity in conversation with psychedelic drug use, and American culture.

    Medical Marijuana Activists Fear For Their Industry in Washington State
    After clearing an early pathway for marijuana legalization, medical cannabis activists are afraid their businesses could be swept under as Initiative 502 forces them to comply with new regulations designed with the recreational market in mind.

    …and at the end of the day Nixon still lied and rejected his own Commission’s report re-evaluating reports back to the 1800’s. Then re-re-evaluated by the IOM in 99 drawing the same conclusions to remove it as a schedule#1 narcotic. Let it be, we know what to do.

    Catch 22²
    What happens when cops write initiatives.

    when the people lead, the leaders will follow…

    Medical Marijuana Farmers Market Opens in Seattle
    Oct 7 2013

    • darkcycle says:

      I was there for the re-opening of the Market. Lots of T.V. coverage, there were at least three areal vans. Channel Five managed to cobble together some footage and combined it with an interview of the Managers that made Medical look terrible.
      Some stoners really make it too easy to scoff at us. The guy with fifty piercings and the giant top hat with a cannabis leaf on it dominated the video.

  7. Frank W says:

    The DEA is the milk-bottle game that will remain standing after the whole carnival is washed away.

  8. War Vet says:

    Money to pay DEA scum, but not enough to pay families of dead soldiers or even open up memorials and parks the public. Because the war on drugs funds terrorism, it has created the War on Terror as we know it. I’m sad not enough DEA are willing to give up their lives for a joint or a bong. They’re so gutless that they don’t even have the balls to do the tango in bloody Mexico, let alone do the Waltz in Afghanistan or Iraq or even in Somalia. They let others do the heavy lifting while pounding their chests like impotent plastic gorillas.

  9. The DEA came into existence right after Nixon announced the war on drugs – namely a war on marijuana. I say the only reason for the existence of the DEA is to maintain the illegal standing of marijuana. In doing so it ensures its own continued existence. Its tied to the hip with marijuana. Without it there is no good reason for the DEA to exist. I can’t see any other thing that it does whose function couldn’t be picked up by other existing agencies of the government. I think this is the purposeful stab that Nixon made at the anti-war movement. Throw out the commission report and rig the DEA to keeping marijuana illegal.

    I am with Ethan Nadelmann on this one.

  10. stlgonzo says:

    Reminder that this has always been a stupid war.

    US intelligence assets in Mexico reportedly tied to murdered DEA agent

    The kidnapping and death of a U.S. drug agent was, until then, unprecedented. Mexico initially did little, until President Reagan shut down the U.S. border, paralyzing the Mexican economy. Within weeks, Quintero was behind bars.

    The details of the case are not new. However, those involved in investigating the case, have until now remained silent about the role U.S. intelligence assets played in Camarena’s capture and Quintero’s escape.

    “Our intelligence agencies were working under the cover of DFS. And as I said it before, unfortunately, DFS agents at that time were also in charge of protecting the drug lords and their monies,” said Berrellez.

  11. Duncan20903 says:

    Wait a second…the Federal Government is shut down? How the heck can you tell? Oh right, no traffic jams on the beltway at rush hour. I was wondering what was causing that.

  12. darkcycle says:

    Anybody remember the reports of “Krokodil” abuse that supposedly turned up in Arizona? Reported with great certainty by a Dr. Frank Lovecchio? Well, more poorly sourced stories of it turning up in Chicago. And it looks like Dr. Loveccio has dialed back his absolute certainty to something of a “gut feeling”….,0,330855.story

    • darkcycle says:

      Prepare for a new wave of humbug, ladies and gentlemen.

    • N.T. Greene says:

      Well, we better keep weed illegal then, right?


      But seriously, education is good, kids. I read up on things on erowid quite a lot.

    • Servetus says:

      Eh, latest ONDCP Rocky Drug Horror Picture Show. Roll it.

      Recommended caption for picture of alleged Krokodil user: “Next time I’ll get a degree in chemistry before I make this stuff….”

      Or, as they say in lower Tombville, down near DEA Street: “We just love the fact we don’t have safe-injection sites. These awful pictures make us look necessary.”

    • DdC says:

      Article comments from
      lucky strike at 4:58 PM October 11, 2013

      It DOES seem impossible that anyone would knowingly do this to themselves — that was a very good question. But thank goodness CBS put that concern to rest immediately. Since according to them, who knows what a confirmed drug addict might do. So it’s their own fault. Thanks LA Times, thanks CBS. Way to get to the bottom of the story. Did anybody there ask how this drug is being made or getting into the country, who’s dealing it, how it’s being packaged, or you know, basically anything else that would require getting off your lazy butts and doing some investigative journalism? No. One anchor asks if people know they’re taking it and is immediately answered with a false, nonsensical answer about drug addicts being a separate class of humans who intentionally hurt themselves. That old coot should be fired and so should the rest of you hacks. And I really like how the next commercial after this article was a drug ad. Hypocrites.

    • Opiophiliac says:

      I just read about five different stories reporting on the supposed krokodil cases. Not a lot of info out there. Not one story distinguished between the effects of injecting desomorphine, a relatively benign drug, and injecting a toxic mix of solvents, acids and catalysts.

      Krokodil only exists in Russia because opium and heroin is illegal (and therefor expensive), and codeine is available cheap and OTC. Where are users in the US getting enough codeine to make krokodil economically viable?

      One story claimed a shot of krokodil goes for $8, compared to $25 for heroin. But desomorphine is a very short acting opiate, heroin lasts 2-3 times as long. When you factor in the scaly skin and flesh rot, krokodil doesn’t really seem to be a viable alternative.

  13. strayan says:

    I rebooted and got this:

    • Windy says:

      My answer to that is NO!

      Free healthcare requires that medical staff work for nothing just to keep you well and treat your injuries. Would YOU work for nothing? Get government and insurance companies out of the picture and you then get lower costs for medical care and medical workers get a living income, too. Insurance should be only for catastrophic medical issues and let the daily use of doctors, medical equipment, etc. be paid out of your own pocket with fees competitive and listed up front.

      As for guns, they are lifesavers more often than life takers; and just try to kill a deer or elk for meat without one (only if you are an excellent archer or adept at hitting them to kill them instantaneously with a motorized vehicle). I don’t know about you but venison makes up a good third of the meat we eat at my house.

  14. War Vet says:

    Have any of you guys seen the new ‘Hobbit’ movie that came out earlier this year? If so, do you recall the part where Gandalf offers the Brown Wizard a hit from his pipe because he was full of anxiety and fear over the necromancer? The Brown Wizard is babbling and then takes a single hit because Gandalf said it would calm him down . . . the smoke exists his ears, mouth and nose . . . he pauses, gives a stoned smile –eyes turn a bit droopy and then calmly goes on about the morgel blade and necromancer. And then the Brown Wizard takes off on his 60mph rabbits while being chased by the DEA, I mean, Orcs: Further proof that marijuana doesn’t impact how you drive your rabbits and it really doesn’t slow down your reaction time –especially with all the hills, mounds, speedy sharp turns and large rocks in the way of the average driver.

  15. DdC says:

    More Incrementalretardation…

    Denver Mulls Outlawing Drifting Marijuana Smoke

    Denver Ordinance Could Make Smell Of MJ Illegal
    CN: By Matt Ferner, The Huffington Post October 11, 2013
    Denver — A new city ordinance being considered in Denver could make the smell of marijuana, or even just the sight of someone smoking marijuana, illegal if it can smelled or seen by others. Mayor Michael Hancock and some Denver City Council members want to pass the ordinance over fears that public pot consumption could become a problem in Mile High City after voters approved Amendment 64 last November. It legalized marijuana for recreational use by adults 21 and over, and retail marijuana shops will open their doors for the first time Jan. 1, 2014 in the city.

    Attorney Moves To Shut Down Illegal Dispensaries
    A fresh effort to close down illegal medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles is underway, this time led by new City Atty. Mike Feuer.

    Isn’t that supposed to be Mein Führer?

  16. Duncan20903 says:


    I think it’s remarkable because the study linked below used ∆9-THC and CBD, not some bastardized synthetic cannabinoids that are umpteen hundreds times more potent that the real thing.
    From Tel Aviv:

    Chemicals in marijuana ‘protect nervous system’ against MS

    “The presence of CBD or THC restrains the immune cells from triggering the production of inflammatory molecules, and limits the molecules’ ability to reach and damage the brain and spinal cord.”

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