Positive movement in Illinois

Nice to see… finally…

Quinn to sign medical marijuana bill Thursday

One reason Quinn said he was giving legalized pot more thought was that he was impressed by an injured military veteran who maintained marijuana provided him relief from war wounds.

It’s not going to be easy — it’s touted as being the toughest medical marijuana law in the country (the only way they could get it passed). I think you already have to be dead with a coroner’s certificate to qualify (although in Chicago, that may not be too hard to get).

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16 Responses to Positive movement in Illinois

  1. Tony Aroma says:

    Supporters say the four-year trial program here will be the strictest law of its kind in the nation.

    Translation, it will benefit the fewest patients of any program of its kind in the nation. Probably not much better than MD’s program, which I believe is very unlikely to actually benefit anyone (no home grows, no dispensaries).

    • darkcycle says:

      This Via Dr. Aggarwal in response to my similar comment on FB:
      “it’s restrictive, yes–but it’s quite a list of qualifying conditions: cancer; glaucoma; HIV/AIDS; hepatitis C; amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS); Crohn’s disease; agitation of Alzheimer’s disease; cachexia/wasting syndrome; muscular dystrophy; severe fibromyalgia; spinal cord disease, including but not limited to arachnoiditis; Tarlov cysts; hydromyelia; syringomyelia; spinal cord injury; traumatic brain injury and post-concussion syndrome; multiple sclerosis; Arnold Chiari malformation and Syringomyelia;
      Spinocerebellar Ataxia (SCA); Parkinson’s disease; Tourette’s syndrome; Myoclonus; Dystonia; Reflex
      Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD); Causalgia; Neurofibromatosis; Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating
      Polyneuropathy; Sjogren’s syndrome; Lupus; Interstitial Cystitis; Myasthenia Gravis; Hydrocephalus; nail
      patella syndrome; or the treatment of these conditions.”
      He goes on to point out that only the first few conditions were in Washington’s law (when I qualified).
      I will take that at face value and stand by the qualifying conditions at least. I’d like to see IBS and IBD added, but it otherwise looks pretty complete.

  2. claygooding says:

    With as many dead voters as Chicago is reputed to have they may have a gold mine.

  3. allan says:

    amazing isn’t it how decades of mind-shaping the public consciousness has created such an environment. Hardly worth passing such a creature. There is a path that protects everyone…

    Burn the witches! Lay waste their sacred groves!

    Same old song… the words have changed but the tune remains the same. On such things are great Python movies built.

    • claygooding says:

      With polls showing over 80% of Americans supporting the use of marijuana as a medicine it is apparent that we have done a pretty good job of spreading the truth about marijuana as a medicine,,the 20% that do not support it’s use work for the government.

  4. Servetus says:

    That’s one positive pot movement for Illinois, one giant bowel movement for mankind.

    • allan says:

      thank you Servetus, you expressed my sentiments far more eloquently than I did above…

      I mean no disrespect to anyone in the movement in Illinoise, gads I know many of you, but seriously I think you all should file PTSD claims w/ your state health agency, that’s torturous. Cruel and capricious even. To work so hard for such a measly bone… have I mentioned I hate Prohibition? I do. Seriously. So damn many wrongs perpetrated under it’s banner.

      These anti-pot folks are as bat shit crazy as any Crusader (are you old enough to remember Crusader Rabbit? you’re old) that ever marched to the Inquisitors’ cause.

      And of course the goal isn’t that bit of legislation, the goal in this case is the path. That bill wouldn’t have gotten far if massive pushes of information hadn’t been done. and that’s the shift… it’s not Calvina and her Harpies screeching at legislative testimonies these days, it’s patients and their advocates. Veterans seem to be effective, their testimony moved OR legislators this year. LEAP’s presence maintains a steady climb…

      I like our odds but I hate the game.

      So a well deserved hat tip to those in IL that fought long and hard, in a state with a political system few outside the state can perceive. In such a climate getting to this point is a terrific step.


      • Duncan20903 says:


        The politicians have finally wised up. Now they’re passing medical merrywanna laws that don’t actually result in getting medicine to patients. The “best of both worlds.”

        I’m genuinely disappointed in Florida’s “United for Care” because they’ve written out patient cultivation. It’s one thing when a bunch of entrenched lawmakers do that. It really sucks when that is left out of a voter generated referendum.

        • Pete says:

          I think in some states, it’s just a matter of getting something, anything, passed. There are now 20 states with medical marijuana. 6 more and it becomes a majority of the states. That’s a pretty powerful position when going after changing federal laws.

  5. claygooding says:

    When I get depressed because of our government’s insane prohibition of marijuana all I have to do is think how grateful I am that I didn’t wake up this morning being Calvina Fay or Mark Kleiman.

    Uruguay’s House OKs legal marijuana market plan


    MONTEVIDEO, Uruguay (AP) — Uruguay’s lower house of congress has voted 50-46 after 13 hours of passionate debate to create a legal marijuana industry in hopes of fighting organized crime.

    The plan now goes to the Senate, where passage is expected to make Uruguay the first country in the world to license and regulate the production, distribution and sale of marijuana for adult consumers.

  6. allan says:


    Teens claim they were used as fake rehab clients

    Editor’s note: To uncover this story on widespread fraud linked to California’s drug rehab program, CNN’s Special Investigations Unit has teamed up with the independent, nonprofit Center for Investigative Reporting. Join CNN’s Anderson Cooper on AC360 for more on this yearlong investigation Tuesday and Wednesday at 8 and 10 p.m. ET on CNN.

    What? Rehab… fraud? What has the world come to??

    • kaptinemo says:

      “Drug Medi-Cal paid out $94 million in the past two fiscal years to 56 clinics in Southern California that have shown signs of deception or questionable billing practices, representing half of all public funding to the program, CIR and CNN found. Over the past six years, more than half a billion dollars have poured into the program statewide”. (Emphasis mine – k.)

      Half a billion…in a State crying for revenue because it is facing an exodus of taxpayers. Now, I wonder what else could have been bought for that? School lunches, elderly care centers, infrastructure repair, spin the Wheel of Societal Needs and take your pick. While lives and money are wasted on this fraud of a DrugWar.

      Prohibition was always a racket, just as war always was; nothing changes except the calendar and the players. And trying to tell who’s the malefactor is impossible, as the game corrupts the ‘white hats’ as well as their (actually, symbiotic) ‘opponents’.

    • Freeman says:

      I’ll be looking for an opportunity to ask Mark Kleiman if this sort of fraud sickens him as severely as “kush doctors”.

  7. Jeff Trigg says:

    Was this better than nothing? I don’t care anymore, Illinois is a lost cause anyway. It wasn’t nearly good enough, I do care about that.

    22 registered grow sites in Illinois. One for each state police district. All 22 grow sites must be on live video piped into the state police. Same live video feed requirement with the 60 “dispensaries” allowed in IL, population about 12 million. Automatic monitoring of your cannabis purchases. No growing, with increased penalties if you do. No “pot doctors” like in CA etc. where $100 and a gripe will get you a card. If you get pulled over for any reason at all, automatic road side sobriety test. The list of qualifying conditions is almost decent, that is true.

    Illinois is going to need $81,000 from every taxpayer before 2018 just to catch up on their pension debt. Ain’t gonna happen. Ending prohibition would help some, but this is the best they can do about that. The next Governor will be Pat Quinn or Bill Daley (Obama chief of staff and the Daley mayors’ son and brother.) The state is doomed. Not to excuse the Republicans, but the fact remains that the Illinois Democrats have not needed one single Republican vote to pass anything since January 2003 when Rod Blagojevich took office. Michael J Madigan (Speaker since 1980, state chair, and his daughter convinced SCOTUS that a drug dog sniff wasn’t a search) and his minion Democrats control Illinois. Democrats in Illinois are corrupt from their state leader to their core, but our voters are mostly idiots.

    Pete, if you haven’t already you might want to start looking for a much better state for your retirement. And, ala Greece, you might want to only plan on about half of whatever promises the corrupt parties in IL have promised you.

  8. Paul McClancy says:

    Surely this bill couldn’t be any worse than New York’s proposed (read defunct) medical cannabis bill; in that you had to have a terminal illness to be considered eligible. Even with those restrictions the bill didn’t pass.

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