New President of Mexico revealing hidden strategy?

Or, perhaps the UNODC and U.S. has already gotten to him?

Mexico’s President-Elect Signals “Internationalization” of Drug War by Louis Nevaer

That change, however, may not be what most Mexicans were expecting.

“A transnational phenomenon requires a transnational strategy,” Óscar Naranjo, Colombia’s former director of the National Police and current advisor to Peña Nieto, told reporters last week.  “No country can succeed in an insular and isolated manner if it is to achieve timely or definitive victories.”

Transnational. That’s the word that the UNODC loves to use.

Far from “re-envisioning” the approach taken by outgoing President Felipe Calderon, credited with having launched the crackdown on the country’s drug cartels in 2006, Peña Nieto is preparing the Mexican people for a major escalation. It is a shift that could draw in military forces from Mexico’s neighbors, including the United States.

Mexico has not had foreign troops on its soil since the U.S. invaded in 1847. The country’s constitution bans foreign troops from its territory. But Mexican officials have been quietly developing strategies for circumventing these prohibitions. 

High-ranking advisors suggest one strategy would be to develop a “multinational” military force comprised of American, Colombian and Chilean military advisors to work with Mexican marines and special forces under an international mandate.

“Not only the United States, but the world, must ally with Mexico to help Mexico overcome the challenge of transnational crime,” Naranjo continued.

The article goes on to speculate that the “accidental” incursion into Mexican airspace by U.S. drones may actually have been part of a larger plan.

Much of this is speculation, and I don’t know enough about political structures in Mexico to weigh the information, but it certainly is disturbing… and unfortunately doesn’t seem far-fetched.

And, of course, one of the problems is that perversely so little was actually discussed about the drug war during the campaign.

For Peña Nieto, it is clear that had he openly debated this course of action, the presidential election might have turned out differently.

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45 Responses to New President of Mexico revealing hidden strategy?

  1. claygooding says:

    All I heard while he was campaigning was that he was going to reduce the violence but turning America loose in his country will only increase the numbers of dead,,,and a lot more of them will be innocent bystanders and of course,,the dog population will suffer.

  2. Peter says:

    jeez i thought this was the guy who was going end this crap. guess some of us got that wrong

  3. Dante says:

    The first rule of Politics:

    Say whatever it takes to get elected.

    The second rule of Politics:

    Do whatever it takes to stay elected.

    The third rule of Politics:

    Protect & Serve (Themselves!)

    It’s not just the cops anymore. It’s all of government.

  4. darkcycle says:

    I had heard some whispering around this. Looks like they elected themselves an Obama.

  5. andres says:

    It’s way worse than Obama. He can’t even talk right.

  6. Paul says:

    Nah. There’s no way Mexico is going to allow U.S. troops to roam around their country shooting Mexicans as they please. Not gonna happen. DEA to a limited extent. But not U.S. Army.

  7. primus says:

    Never say never.

  8. Lee Galizer says:

    It’s always amusing as they try to escalate & out muscle the drug market. If they allow US military into the country to fight, no impact will be felt by tokers in the US. It will do nothing more than cause an increase in US growing and a corresponding increase of violence in Mexico. The trend is to move growing indoors and regardless of what the drug warriors think, they cannot & will not keep users from obtaining the drugs they want. They don’t have the manpower or resources to accomplish shutting down the markets short of imposing permanent martial law. As is always the case, it analogous to squeezing a balloon. Squeeze it here….. and it pops up somewhere else.

    Unfortunately for Mexico, they have become America’s bitch.

    • allan says:

      Unfortunately for Mexico, they have become America’s bitch.

      oooh… Canada will be sooo jealous…

    • SCOOBY says:

      Have you considered the possibility of this in reverse where foreign troops are allowed on US soil? This would fall in line with theories of world government. It helps make some sense of a recent treaty with NATO to circumvent the 2nd amendment. NATO troops in America could actually take guns from citizens as they are not actually working witin the confines of US rule of law. Am I reaching here?….perhaps.

      • Windy says:

        That is a fucking scary thought. The Constitution is supposed to govern ALL interactions between people (not just American citizens, ALL people including foreign nationals) and the government. I’m not sure how it can protect us from foreign troops, though a massive class action lawsuit suing the government over the possibility might stop it before it actually happens. Any member of the fed gov who signs onto such a treaty is committing treason against the Constitution and the People, We, the People need to put THEM on trial and carry out the Constitutional sentence when they are found guilty — with the death penalty.

        I’m usually an opponent of the death penalty (since far too many innocents have died under it and it is applied in a racist manner, besides I think it “sends the wrong message” when the state kills or condones killing people for breaches of criminal law, better to send them to prison for life without hope of parole), but in the case of this kind of treason I do think the death penalty is called for, it would act as a disincentive for other government agents, for a time.

  9. allan says:

    remember… “war is good.”

    Methinks it’s time we storm the Bastille. So to speak…

    and before I said that (as I often do when relying on info stored in my head) I gave the phrase a quick google and yeah, my brain still works, whew… in reading the Wiki entry I realized why the French Revolution keeps coming to my mind when looking at the US of today. (I did pay attention occasionally in school!)

    from WikiPedia:

    During the reign of Louis XVI, France faced a major economic crisis, partially initiated by the cost of intervening in the American Revolution, and exacerbated by a regressive system of taxation. On 5 May 1789 the Estates-General of 1789 convened to deal with this issue, but were held back by archaic protocols and the conservatism of the Second Estate, consisting of the nobility and amounting to only 2% of France’s population at the time. On 17 June 1789 the Third Estate, with its representatives drawn from the commoners, or proletariats, reconstituted themselves as the National Assembly, a body whose purpose was the creation of a French constitution. The king initially opposed this development, but was forced to acknowledge the authority of the assembly, which subsequently renamed itself the National Constituent Assembly on 9 July.

    Only today, we have the 1%. And I’m sorry, nothin’ against rich folks (forever grateful to PJ O’Rourke for Eat the Rich) but today’s aristocracy flaunts their wealth and may as well be dancing minuets in powdered wigs. They are NOT entitled. If we’re not going to eat them we sure as hell otta be taxing the hell outta them.

    The people’s wallets are being emptied right into the estates of that 1%… theft of a very felonious and treasonous nature. And I can’t grow plants in my garden? Really? Where’s the HMFWBIC? I want to file a complaint. FTS…

  10. Peter says:

    “No country can succeed in an insular and isolated manner if it is to achieve timely or definitive victories.”

    Regarding the drug war? I’d like him to point to just one example, transnational or otherwise, of a “timely and definitive victory” in it’s 100 year history.

  11. darkcycle says:

    This is very disturbing. I can only imagine the reaction in Mexico.
    The time is on it’s way, when Washington tells it’s cronies in Mexico “We can’t pay you anymore.” At that point, we will be there to enforce our will with guns. Now, we may have American Military already there. We already have elements of their Army, I’m beyond certain. (Spent too much time in Central America, and I know the M.O.) The essentials of a Coup de ‘etat are all there…and we’re so close. It seems Mexico has silently surrendered it’s soveignty. Lock, stock and barrel (ironic that expression refers to the essential components of a gun).

    • darkcycle says:

      Jeez. I just read that back…sounds like I’m channeling the Kap’n….

    • SCOOBY says:

      Not channeling at all Darkcycle…..we have all heard of possibiltiy of an unholy trinity consisting of the US, Canada & Mexico without borders. Weighing up all kinds of current events I would say you are quite insightful.

  12. ezrydn says:

    You have to understand the mental makeup of a Mexican. I’m gonna piss some off but it’s the truth. They have no sense of “obligation” nor “responsibility.” It’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault. Lying and stealing are ok as a way to an end. They’ll always go for the short instant gratification because they can’t begin to perceive “later” or “tomorrow.” When they speak or listen, they have to see your face as you talk or they’re lost. I live with them, day in and day out! I see this stuff all the time. They may say one thing to Washington but it’s not what’s being said to the cartels. Mexicans have many faces.

    • strayan says:

      Sounds awfully similar to the anti-Arab racism used to justify the international prohibition on cannabis by the League of Nations in the 1930’s.

      “He lives from day to day, at the mercy of his instincts and desires. He has no idea of making provision for the future, and abandons himself to the satisfaction of his immediate needs. … Owing to his lack of mental and moral powers of resistance, the native soon falls into the state of decline and moral decay which follows too wholesale or long an indulgence in drugs. Similarly, his entirely instinctive way of life, the fact that his behavior is dictated solely by immediate reaction, and his fundamentally impulsive nature, soon give to his crises of intoxication a violent and tragic character.”

      – Dr Antoine Porot:

      • ezrydn says:

        Call a fact what you will. It doesn’t change what I see daily in life. There’s no racist sentiment involved.

        • darkcycle says:

          Ez, I think you need to review what you wrote. We’re friends, but really, that is a deplorable sentiment. I gotta say, any blanket statement about race or culture is bound to be wrong.
          I sense the usual cultural frustrations that come with adjusting to life in another country. It’s been quite some time since I’ve been in that position, however I remember what it was like. But understand…these frustrations are your problem, not the culture’s. They got along just fine before without meeting the expectations you brought from up North, and they aren’t going to adjust for you.

    • Jose says:

      “Mexicans have many faces.” Why yes, so why take a derogatory trait and apply it to an entire ethnicity? Obviously what you see in several applies to all of them.

      “No sense of obligation nor responsibility?” I bet you wonder why Mexicans even bother breeding. Surely they breed only to serve their base animal instincts.

      “Lying and stealing are ok as a way to an end.” So Mexicans are devoid of morality and ethics? That’s one hell of an accusation.

      “They’ll always go for the short instant gratification because they can’t begin to perceive “later” or “tomorrow.”” So obviously they are below or at least on par with dogs. Maybe you have discovered the reason they breed?

      “When they speak or listen, they have to see your face as you talk or they’re lost.” I imagine you equate this to ignorance? Are you speaking english to a dumb Mexican? For some, English is a second language and it does help to look a speaker in the face “to understand”. Are you speaking spanish to a dumb Mexican, and maybe you have a heavy “anglo accent”? If that is the case then it also helps to see a speakers face to understand what they are saying. Or maybe you just don’t like ’em lookin ya in the eyes.

      I love how you sweep up your drivel with “There’s no racist sentiment involved.” Now that is a classic cleanup maneuver!

  13. Bruce says:

    This is all too Bizarre. Something stinks. With Trillion$ Mi$$ing, what’s the typical Bribe? $100 Million? 200? A paltry B’n?
    Unfunded, fed some Birds today. A Bird landed on my head today.
    Am richer than all Scrooge Clones ma$hed together.

  14. Jules says:

    “But Mexican officials
    have been quietly developing
    strategies for circumventing these

    Oh the irony!

  15. SCOOBY says:

    HELLO…….Can you spell WORLD GOVERNMENT !!!!!

    • allan says:

      whoa there Scooby… while it is a big couch, we all still hear you just fine, no need to yell and get excited. Although we do understand the urge… I’m sure we all good give a good shout about sumpin’.

      … me personally, I think ma nature will kick our butts well ‘fore we get to that world gummint thing. While the laws of Prohibition may not be based on facts the laws of nature truly are.

      Ever hear of snowball earth?

      • darkcycle says:

        BTW, Allan, really like the new Avatar. Nice. Very much the Celt. The little swirl of smoke is perfect.

        • allan says:

          thanks… and that’s very much the Viking… altho’ I think my scandihoovianess tends more to being from the indigenous reindeer herding, shroom eating folks. Maybe it’s time to enter my DNA in the the Human Genome Project soz I can see exactly where my folk are from. Of course the Dale Gribble in me knows that as soon as I do, the guys in black suits will show up at my door.

          Old Grampa Semu used to say, “there’s an Indian in the woodpile somewhere.” So maybe I do have some of that ancient seafaring folk in me too… I mean it’s not like we didn’t beat that lost Columbus fella here by a few centuries. Which (because it’s the way my mind works) leads to the question of… why isn’t our country called Vespucciland? Or Vespuccia?

        • darkcycle says:

          Oh, my bad, what wuz I thinkin’?

        • allan says:

          like Peter Sellers I’m a man of many faces. Summer time I cut all my hair off my head (like when I was a kid) and shave the whole face. I call it my “undercover hippie” mode…

          That pic is my winter face. And no dis on the Celts. We’re all the same and share the same root. (and the same planet!) I much prefer thinking of myself as indigenous (we all come from there) and find myself a tad ways from home. This aberration of “civilization” is but a blip on one long migration. The Hopi say we’ve done this a few times before and each time we get slapped down to a small group and begin our migrations again.

          And that’s what I hear… I don’t know squat, I’m just a guy that likes to dig in the dirt and go fishin’ once in a while. Consuming whilst I fish of course, the green bounty of my digging…

  16. War Vet says:

    American advisors training Mexican Marines and Special Forces . . . wasn’t that the strategy for Vietnam (Minus the Chileans and Columbians and Mexicans) at first? Sounds like we’d be making better and more trained drug dealers akin to Los Zetas.

    The Taliban Makes $100 Million Dollars a year selling drugs and other Terrorist/Insugent organization likewise makes millions of dollars via drugs since its universally considered that drug money is the number one source of funding for all terrorist organizations in the Middle East –all of which cost America $3trillion dollars and killed 6000 of troops for over 11yrs (The War on Terror really is the War on Drugs, not Terror, since one cannot fight with rocks, rice, dates and fry bread –one is easily defeated when their supplies and money dry up) . . . how much more money does the Mexican cartels have than the Taliban or Hamas –the same? This is very creepy . . . will Obama or Mit keep advisors from going to Mexico to fight the War on Terror –I mean the War on Drugs? Lest we forget it was the Mexicans who bailed the U.S. banks out of our recession crisis with all their drug money acting as our liquid assist cushions that keep the American world a-rotating . . . “how high” will we ask when the Cartels tell us to “jump” –they’ve got their pennies in everyone of our piggybanks.

    “Wachovia admitted it didn’t do enough to spot illicit funds in handling $378.4 billion for Mexican-currency-exchange houses from 2004 to 2007” (Bloomberg)

    • claygooding says:

      When the ONDCP/DEA did not purchase the entire opium crop from the farmers of Afghanistan and napalm it,thus stopping 80% of the world opium supply at a fraction of the cost of trying and failing to interdict the drug after it left the Happy Valley,,it told the world that stopping the drugs was not the goal of US drug enforcement.

      • allan says:

        ummm… gosh… you mean, like… paying the farmers would be cheaper than having our military there? Well heck, that just makes too much sense. If that was the case we could have had all our Nat’l Guard folks here helping w/ things like hurricanes, tornadoes and other such domestic trivialities… oh… gee whiz Wally.

  17. Servetus says:

    “… ‘multinational’ military force … American, Colombian, Chilean … under an international mandate” will accomplish what? Besides tripling down on failure?

    The trick to running a government is to make it appear as if the government knows what it’s doing. On social matters it’s often clueless.

    Once transnational cooperation on shutting down drug smuggling in Mexico is proven to be a bad joke, new jokes will be proffered, and the process repeated.

  18. n.t. greene says:

    “No racist sentiment”? You clearly haven’t spoken to many people from Mexico.

    • ezrydn says:

      No, I haven’t. I’ve only lived in Jalisco in the colonias for the last 11 years. And the people around me have no reason to put up an “American” front, as those Northside do. So, tell me about it.

  19. Ed Dunkle says:

    I’m predicting U.S. drone strikes of “known cartel leaders” within six months.

    • claygooding says:

      With the money the cartels are making,,how long before they own drones?? OH NO,,,we can have the “Drone Wars” and drone dog fights and with all the bells and whistles.

      And within minutes of a successful drone strike they can start looking for the new cartel leader,,,or leaders if the group splits up.

  20. Peter says:

    i wonder when we will see the first legal defense of a vet with ptsd accused of a mass shooting who claims the government denied him access to the only viable medication?

  21. mr Ikesheeny says:

    Government is good at space science, and ifrastructure but with this fishing expedition just described, is it any wonder that there is distrust? And as I’m sure we’re aware, slashing and burning in the name of WOsD is debilitating to the rain forest.

  22. cy Klebs says:

    A commenter at the article said that Obrador won.

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