California Prison Union does NOT oppose Prop 19

The CCPOA came out with its final endorsements for the election, and it expresses an opinion on most candidate, but only on one proposition (opposed to Prop 22).

That’s good news. It appears that Prop 19 has been getting all the endorsements of those unions expressing an opinion, including the big one — SEIU.

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18 Responses to California Prison Union does NOT oppose Prop 19

  1. kaptinemo says:

    Either it’s colossal arrogance on their part and/or they have something up their sleeves…or maybe, just maybe, they’re beginning to realize just how precarious their private little empire is in these financially tough times.

    Pissing off the voters by having their fat-cat representative voicing opposition to a popular referendum like 19 in these hard times is a sure way to find their ranks reduced and what’s left being paid less. They’ve avoided the budgetary scalpel for a long time, but now there’s nothing left to cut in California but the bone…and the CCPOA.

  2. ezrydn says:

    Isn’t it an odd feeling to now be in the position where we will be able to say, “Be nice and we’ll let you keep your job.”

  3. darkcycle says:

    Anybody sure they’re not secretly funneling money to the “no on 19” through a third party? And their lobbyists…what have they been up to? I’m not buying this….

  4. claygooding says:

    Anything that sounds too good to be true is usually a con
    and now we must wait on the hook.
    But then,Prop 19 does not address amnesty or the release of their marijuana prisoners and they stand only to lose future patrons.
    They are already feeling the prison funding cuts all over the nation and I am sure that they can read the writing on the wall.
    It is the same thing that happened to Kerli,he threw the bait out for big money to build treatment centers all over the US so he could switch from imprisonment to treatment persecution of marijuana users,but no one jumped on board the train and now he is standing there with his dick in his hand,saying one thing and being forced to continue the in-place imprisonment policy.

  5. kaptinemo says:

    “But then,Prop 19 does not address amnesty or the release of their marijuana prisoners and they stand only to lose future patrons.”

    Step one is re-legalization. As much as it sticks in my craw and burns, we have to lay the groundwork for the eventual political foundation needed to advance to that point.

    Once that happens though, cannabis re-legalization will open the door for release of all the PoW’s locked up under false pretenses (cannabis is dangerous and all its’ users must be incarcerated! and other such bilge)…and will usher in the tidal wave of lawsuits that surely must follow.

    Millions upon millions of Americans have had their lives destroyed by laws the pols knew were based on lies. There is no covering this up, no brushing it off. A reckoning must be made, in order to teach the government that it must never, ever do this kind of thing, again.

  6. Buc says:


    The cynical side of me agrees with you.

    This is just such an irrational move on their part, assuming that their goal is the selfish one of profiting off of misery and not the noble goal of freeing people, that I have a hard time believing they aren’t involved somehow.

  7. malcolmkyle says:

    Pero no es mexico; es el infierno!

  8. Tim says:

    Meg Whitman said today that she did not report her long-time housekeeper to immigration officials after finding out she was in the country illegally because “I didn’t think it was the right thing.”

    And campaigning against Prop 19 so that people will still be sent to jail for pot is the right thing?!?

  9. Shap says:

    Judge Napolitano is having a whole thing on prop 19 on Freedom Watch this weekend. Should be pretty sweet.

  10. Duncan20903 says:

    Oh yeah! All right! Prop 19 is at 52% tonight!

    Don’t just say yes, don’t iust say no, just say yo baby yo baby yo baby yo!

  11. Duncan20903 says:

    Oh my. That is a major faux pas Meg. Here I thought you had this election in the bag. Bah, my bad for underestimating Jerry Brown’s ability to get himself elected.

  12. Ben says:

    I’m sure that plenty of the prison guards smoke pot, too. They’re not like the cops, who have to appear squeaky clean all the time.

    Also, marijuana sales aren’t filling up the prisons in anywhere near the numbers that hard drug sales are. Prison guards wouldn’t be threatened by pot being legal. Even if a significant number of people come out of the prison system, that wouldn’t do more than slightly ease the MASSIVE overcrowding in the system, which might be nice for them.

  13. Duncan20903 says:

    You know I just had a realization. If Prop 19 passes the streets are going to be filled with disoriented and confused know nothings suffering from an extreme case of cognitive dissonance. Shit, maybe we should have thought this through a bit better than we did.

    Oh well, it’s too late now. We’ll just have to make the best of a bad situation.

    Damnit I think I may have to head to California for election day. San Francisco and Oakland will be dancing in the streets. Indeed they do know how to dance in the streets in San Francisco.

  14. claygooding says:

    I had planned on a trip to LA and then up 101 to SF the second week of next month,but life happened. I wanted to ride up 1010 and toke some joints before it became legal.

  15. Just me. says:

    Silence is deafening at times.

  16. Duncan20903 says:

    During my vacations at the Graybar Hotel back in the 1980s I got to meet a bunch of guards. While I was there the Sheriff had just instituted a strict non-smoking policy for his deputies so you couldn’t get them to shut up about their health care benefits or how pissed of they were that the Sheriff had ordered random urine testing of his deputies. Urine testing for nicotine metabolites because the county got a big discount on their health insurance provided to the Deputies. It must have been rough on the nicotine addict deputies because this was before they eliminated the prisoners smoking privileges. But from my recollection at the time I decided that there weren’t many, if any, potheads in their ranks.

    This is 23, 24 years ago so I know lots of stuff has changed. No cigs for prisoner, they’ve eliminated parole, they’ve bifurcated all criminal trials with a jury because in VA the jury sets the prisoners sentence and they decided it wasn’t fair in the defendant had some kind of mitigation that should be considered in sentencing, but it would prejudice the jury if heard before they voted to convict Virginia is a good ole boy, down home style, redneck habitat and every little town in the wilds of Southwest Virginia has a Dew Drop Inn but I’ve observed that they really are interested in fair play. For instance they decided to set per se limits for DUI involving drugs other than alcohol. They argued for a number of weeks about cannabis per se levels and in the end they declined to set per se limits on cannabis because they were only interested in punishing drivers that were actually impaired at the time, and didn’t have the necessary info to establish a per se level. Go figure that one out. Anyway, it seems they still haven’t adopted a cannabis per se level of ‘intoxication.’

    I really would like to understand why the laborotory monkeys still haven’t come up with a good test for cannabis. Yes, you can test for metabolites other than THC-cooh. It probably requires a blood sample to establish current impairment. I think one reason they haven’t figured it out is because there’s really not much actual need. I do recall one study that found drivers with cannabis metabolites in their system were actually slightly safer than the sober. But the difference was within the margin of error and therefore statistically insignificant so it was marked as a tie. Sometimes the guy out driving stumblebum drunk gets in a collision where it was the sober driver who caused the wreck.

    PS in Virginia the county Sheriff runs the jails, and the guards are his deputies. Not every county has a police force but they all have Sheriffs. See Loudoun County Virginia as an example of a county without a police force. That doesn’t mean there’s no law enforcement, it just means that deputy sheriffs are assuming that role.

    oh my, I’ve been blathering again. I’ll do better next time.

  17. Duncan20903 says:

    Wow, California just pulled out their trump card in a last ditch effort to keep Prop 19 from being approved. They just decriminalized possession up to an ounce. Arnold done signed the law and everything. We got so excited over Prop 19’s progress we forgot to follow No more misdemeanors, no more court costs, the analysis that the prohibitionists are counting on a lousy $100 fine to keep California from imploding and taking parts of Arizona, Nevada and Oregon with them, as well as making potheads think they’re as good as their superiors in the population that don’t take dope every day! Well it sure seems there’s no level of dirty pool that the California Assembly and Arnold won’t try? So now the know nothing prohibitionist potheads can vote against Prop 19 with a clear conscience. California lawmakers & public official sare definitely the elite players in major league politics.
    It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. Wow I wonder how that first beers that came off the assembly line tasted back in 1933? Shall we ask the men in the street?

    Hey, could somebody photo shop that so the picket signs say “We Want Muggles!” instead of beer? please don’t use dope or weed. Thanks in advance.

    Oh yes, please remember that only potheads are allowed to call other potheads potheads. Got it?

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