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Freedom is slavery

John P. Walters in Politico: Why Libertarians Are Wrong About Drugs

The drug user’s freedom to consume costs his community not only their safety, but also their liberty.

No, I’m pretty sure you did that.

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19 comments to Freedom is slavery

  • darkcycle

    “No, I’m pretty sure you did that.” Bwah-hahahahahahahahaha!
    Yet the point would be completely lost on old John.

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  • allan

    Thanks Pete! I think…

    While part of me is so tired of hearing this moronic prattle from these honesty-challenged prohibitionists, the point has been reached where I can unwind and let others do the hackle raising.

    Please Johnny, keep writing. Keep lying in public… you’ve got a lot of ‘splainin’ to do, but for now, if you want to keep digging that hole deeper, have at it ’cause we’re going to (note to NSA, metaphorically speaking only) bury you in it.

    -snip-

    And I’m not just talking about heroin. Over the past decade, as marijuana use has grown, the number of car accident victims testing positive for the drug has tripled, according to a recent study.

    Just as troubling as the potential harm done to others are the questions: What is to replace prohibition? And who holds the reins? Here things get sketchy. Everybody wants the cartels out; but who’s in? Whatever entity controls the supply controls the population of addicts.

    Management of production and distribution, some envision, could be commercial. What could go wrong? Think Afghan warlord with a lobbying arm and a marketing department. -snip-

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  • primus

    Thanks, John, for providing us with such a nice, juicy fat target. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

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  • Duncan20903

    ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’

    Doesn’t Mr. Walters bear a striking resemblance to Mr. Dumpty?
    http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/potency04.jpg

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    • B. Snow

      Well in that (pic/link) = I’m seeing something more like the love-child of Minnie Mouse & Pinocchio… But, maybe that’s just me?

      That said, I haven’t seen a photo of Walters in a while but going by memory – he was indeed – quite “egg-shaped”.

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      • Duncan20903

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        No that was my bad. I must have skipped a groove. Yes, he reminds me of Pinocchio rather than Humpty Dumpty.

        But speaking of Minnie Mouse, did you know that Mickey dumped her because he finally figured out that she was fucking Goofy?

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  • Duncan20903

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    The first time that I heard the freedom is slavery rhetoric was in 1990 on my first day of court ordered “treatment” for the fiction of merrywanna addiction. That guy was just full of nonsense arguments. Once he asked me point blank, “who are you going to believe, me or your own two lying eyes?”
    ———
    What would you think if a cannabis law reform advocate was arrested for smoking a joint at a public rally? Would it change your opinion if you knew that the charge was pursued under the authority Federal Courts system? How about if this event happened in front of the Liberty Bell?

    Marijuana activist shocked by his own prosecution

    /snip/
    “The parks are filled with children on school trips, and parents bring their kids to see the Liberty Bell,” [Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard W.] Goldberg said in an interview. He said the visitors have the right to go to these parks without seeing people smoking marijuana and breaking the law.

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  • Colin Keesee

    If the author ever gets tired of his job as self serving, police state pushing, hypocrite, who uses libertarian language solely to advance his narrow definition of freedom, he could become a pseudo-Buddhist guru for rich women. Should he get bored with trying to tell us why freedom only means the freedom of rich, white men to pay fewer taxes, he can charge housewives in Ojai, CA $500 an hour to burn a sage leave and tell them that the desire to consume things enslaves you. HOMMMMMMMMM throw all blacks and poors in prison HOMMMMMMMMMM.

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  • claygooding

    What if a prohibitch wrote and article and nobody read it??

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  • War Vet

    And what about the rights of the children and the thousands of Iraqi’s executed by ISIS militants? Drug money finances ISIS as much as acting finances Brad Pitt.

    The black market is a natural occurrence under prohibition, thus our Dems and GOP politicians have made the conscious decision to fund terrorism and war.

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    • Duncan20903

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      I know that I’ve mentioned this before, but the very best imported hashish that was in steady supply for me was a nice, very soft black hash which was sold to finance the Afghan “Freedom Fighters” in their “struggle to throw off the yoke of oppression of the commies in the USSR.” I’ve no doubt that they had the tacit approval of the Reagan administration because if there was anyone that Mr. Reagan hated worse than potheads, it was the commies. How the heck were we to know that the Freedom Fighters would morph into al Qaeda? The really, really sad part is that had the U.S. just ignored the commies “invading” Afghanistan the situation would have worked out more or less the same. I know that Mr. Reagan just loved taking credit for the fall of the Berlin Wall. But with the benefit of hindsight it’s pretty easy to see that the Wall and what it represented was structurally unsound. All that Mr. Reagan accomplished was to enrich and empower Mr. bin Laden and his henchmen.

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  • DdC

    John Walters and his side kick Bill Bennett have caused more death and destruction to Americans than all Hurricane’s and Tornado’s combined. For money. Their drug war agenda literally tried to legislate the book of fiction they wrote, Body Count. Lies and Deceit to spread fear, bigotry and hatred. Creating a world of mistrust and violence, hiding behind the kids. Traitorous cowards far more guilty of mass murder than Charlie Manson or Ted Bundy. Innocent families are simply collateral damage to these bastards. I truly believe they hate Americans and the drug war allows them to kill or cage their enemies. Iran Contra to censoring school books, piss-tasting, profit prisons or police actions erupting to remedy what they created. The Neocons John Pee and Slotz.

    Using citizens lives as a disposable means to their end. The media focuses on the victims as the problem and the domestic terrorist drug worriers as the remedy. All on tax dollars, they dodge paying by funding calvina gossip queens like sabet. We need to hold the media accountable. They give a voice to the liars and a slant to sway opinions. To keep this war and its profits flowing, regardless of the consequences to the country or its people. If the people don’t stand against it, the government can’t do a damn thing about it. It can’t get done with politicians having vested interests in its continuance. Wall St and Mainstream media profit on prohibition. Education was the first step. Now its time to wipe this blotch on mankind out.

    HOW YOU CAN HELP STOP JOHN WALTERS Oct 12 01

    “I do not doubt that John Walters has thought seriously about our nation’s drug problems,” Leahy said, “but I do doubt the conclusions that he has reached and forcefully expressed on issues ranging from drug treatment to interdiction to sentencing issues.” “In short, I’m not yet convinced that he is the right person to head the Office of National Drug Control Policy.”
    Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT),
    Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, was equally critical of Walters.

    “I am particularly troubled by Mr. Walters many writings regarding drug treatment,” he said. “He has written that the ‘view that therapy by a team of counselors, physicians and specialists is the only effective way to reduce drug use’ is a ‘myth.’ In contrast, the top doctors and scientists in the field of addiction believe that addiction is a chronic, relapsing brain disease and that addiction treatment is as successful as treatment for other chronic diseases such as diabetes, hypertension and asthma.”
    Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)

    Americas New Drug Pushers John P Walters Nov 12 01

    Pot Potency? Boomers’ blissfully unfazed by mere facts

    Marijuana potency increased last year to the highest level in more than 30 years. 9.6 percent level represents more than a doubling of marijuana potency since 1983, when it averaged just under 4 percent.
    – John Pee Walters

    “Marijuana is ten times more dangerous than twenty years ago.”
    – Presidential candidate Bill Clinton 1992

    “Parents are often unaware that today’s marijuana is different from that of a generation ago, with potency levels 10 to 20 times stronger than the marijuana with which they were familiar.”
    John P. Walters, US Drug Czar
    01 May 2002 Washington Post, p. A25.

    Waldo Pee Scumbo smoked schwagg in the 70’s,
    Not more potent today…

    http://www.vividvision.com/posters/brisktea.jpg

    Walters, John P.; O’Gara, James F.X.
    Abstract: Studies have not proven that needle exchange programs actually reduce the spread of HIV, in part because such studies depend on an unreliable population, have no control group, and cannot tease out the different modes of transmission in the subjects, argue John P. Walters and James F.X. O’Gara in an commentary in the Washington Times. Walters, president of the New Citizenship Project, and O’Gara, director of research at the Project, claim that research of the programs has been inconclusive and results have been misrepresented in the news media.

    Money laundering tax write offs funding drug worriers.
    The Philanthropy Roundtable is a national association of individual donors, corporate giving representatives, foundation staff and trustees, and trust and estate officers. The Roundtable is founded on the principle that voluntary private action offers the best means of addressing many of society’s needs, and that a vibrant private sector is critical to creating the wealth that makes philanthropy possible.
    John Walters President Philanthropy Roundtable

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  • kaptinemo

    Another example of Right Wing Welfare. It doesn’t matter how much of a failure they might be, so long as they’re willing to sing in the choir, they’ll get a stipend, of sorts. Usually some BS ‘Directorship’ of an astroturf group’s propaganda megaphone to blast their scripted bull.

    Ol’ Johnny Pee should have just slunk off into the ignominy he deserves, but no, he has to bawl his BS some more. Truly tiresome.

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  • kaptinemo

    Oh, and the usual trolls have shown up to lend, uh, er, ‘moral support’ to poor, beleagered Johnny Pee.
    And they’re being taken to the woodpile, too.

    Like I said before, sometimes I feel like answering prohibs is like giving a beating to a man in a wheelchair. They’re hopelessly outclased. But when I recall what they’ve done to me and my fellow cannabists, and when I recall what they support, in many cases because of what they receive monetarily for that support, and I feel like going rhetorically nuclear on them. They deserve nothing less for what they’ve done.

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  • Servetus

    If an essential predicate of libertarian society is the willing, rational actor, capable of weighing and understanding consequences, what’s left when this condition is absent?”—John Walters

    What’s left is the oppression and slavery of the totalitarian state contributing to the baseline casualties and body counts of the drug war.

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  • Jeff Trigg

    Sorry John, the attempt to demonize libertarians doesn’t work as well these days like it did just ten years. The left and right have been demonizing libertarians for 50 years now, and its finally starting to wear off as fewer people identify themselves as Democrat or Republican than at any time since the Civil War. Now its their turn to be demonized for all the evil things the left and right have allowed their two parties to do our population.

    The drug war was and is evil and everyone and every entity backing it deserves to be demonized, especially the Democrat and Republican parties and their voters.

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  • DCReade

    quote without comment

    John P. Walters:

    Education:

    MA, Political Science, University of Toronto

    BA, Political Science, Michigan State University.

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