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What we need is an Afghanistan closer to home

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, soon to be the leader of the Republican Governors Association, continued his argument Thursday that the federal government needed to halt their intervention in the private sector and refocus their energy toward securing the border — even if that means sending U.S. troops into Mexico.

While pushing his small government economic message on issues such as the auto industry and social security during an interview with MSNBC, Perry seemed to express a willingness to massively increase the U.S. military’s involvement in foreign affairs by deploying American forces across the southern border to fight in the Mexican drug war.

I’ve never really understood how concluding that the U.S. military really isn’t big enough seems to happen so often with “small government” politicians.

Deploying American forces in Mexico to fight the drug war is so bad in so many ways that it would take some kind of complete moron to even suggest such an idea…. Ah.

First, the Mexican public is not likely to be thrilled with the idea of the U.S. army crossing the border into their country.

Second, what are we going to fight? We’ve got a really great military for fighting other armies, or for blowing up stuff, but it’s really not that effective for targeting specific individuals within a noncombatant population. And, as anyone with a brain has figured out by now, if you do succeed in successfully targeting those individuals (without killing a whole lot of innocents in the process), all you end up doing is creating an opening that is filled with more violence.

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34 comments to What we need is an Afghanistan closer to home

  • ezrydn

    These “war mongers” just don’t understand that to solve the problem, one must first do away with the CSA. Invading Mexico is surely not the answer, just a quick bandaid. And think about the # of americans living down here. When you drive the murders into the interior, are we just to be considered “collaterial damage?” I, for one, would take the Mexican position. It doesn’t take the US military being here. It takes some Congress critters with brass balls that clink when they walk to stop the violence, Plain and Simple! Dispose of or rewrite the CSA. As it is, it’s what empowers the kooks of the world. Every drug treaty we’re signatory to has an escape clause. Trigger them. 40 year old IDEOLOGY doesn’t work in the new century.

  • warren

    We should drop texas as a state and make it a landfill.

  • Billie Budd

    Better yet, give it back to the Mexicans

  • IG Farben world

    Reinstate the draft and let windows gamer lamers see how fun and exciting war without a reset button is.

  • Servetus

    If Texas Governor Rick Perry is going to attack Mexico, shouldn’t Washington Governor Chris Gregoire send troops into British Columbia? Attacking Mexico while refusing to attack Canada would be an act of racial discrimination.

  • darkcycle

    War is popular. No matter how absurd, counterproductive, or irrational the war, it will have LARGE numbers of supporters.
    Americans are the most militant culture on the face of the earth. We’re conditioned from the cradle to love mass murder on epic scales. Has anybody watched TV lately? Gone to a movie? Played a video game?
    Militancy is a dead end, and cultures that embrace it crumble and rot from within.
    The “professional military” from it’s inception, is a technology heavy, minimal personnel construction, designed specifically to allow frivolous wars of adventure just like this to be pursued with little public interference. After all, they’re not conscripting, so your son or daughter is “safe”. The military is all volunteer, so these people knew what they were getting into, right? Bullshit.

  • I don’t know what Gov. Perry means by “small government,” but to a lot of principled small government advocates (which is what I consider myself to be), it means limiting government to doing only those things that must be done by the government. Leave everything else to the free market.

    There is no free market solution to national defense, so that is necessarily a government function (some would say it is the sole justification for government), and determining its size and capabilities are necessarily matters of public policy.

    There are also few workable free market solutions to things like road building, fire protection, or crime fighting. On the other hand, things like the arts, education, and medical care can be provided mostly or entirely by the free market.

    Of course, the free market solution to drug abuse is absurdly simple: People who are abusing drugs are free to stop abusing drugs. Perhaps some form of government intervention is needed to pay for treatment–since drug abuse can leave people destitute–and there’s some argument to be made for a voluntary exclusion program (e.g. “I hereby give the government permission to forcibly stop me from taking heroin because I can’t stop by myself.”) But no one who advocates small government–and really means it–would approve of something as unnecessary as the DEA.

  • Duncan20903

    You’ve got to stop making sense Pete. It’s going to drive you mad and we’re going to find you with you’re head stuck out you’re window screaming that you’re madder than hell and not going to take it anymore. Seriously, do you want to end up like Howard Beale? I’m this close >< to it myself. It's just not a pretty thought.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE
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    Perhaps you youngsters that haven't had the opportunity to watch the movie "Network" made in 1976 might enjoy getting a copy as the Howard Beale character and his (fictional) rant on TV still resonates today, at least it does for this old man. Perhaps you have because it's on piratebay.org and not much stuff from over 30 years ago that isn't classic and still watched ends up on piratebay. Download it for free if you don't mind (or enjoy) sticking it to the man. I don't even know why it crossed my mind. It's been decades since I thought of this movie. But I was reading the blather of some Know Nothing prohibitionist like I have every goddamn day for the last umpteen years and Mr. Beale's speech popped up in my cannabis addled brain and god bless Youtube there it was. Anyway what are the odds we could really make it happen? I've got a window. I'm ready but I'd look like a dork doing it by myself. I'm fucking A serious here. Let's pick a day, start one of those Internet social virus things and get several hundred thousand of us to make fiction fact. I'll be there even if it's only several hundred of us. or just several dozen. or even just several. OK goddammit I'll do it by myself if I have to.
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    From the youtube clip linked above:

    "I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

    We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

    We all know things are bad — worse than bad — they're crazy.

    It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

    Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

    I want you to get mad!

    I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

    All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

    You've gotta say, “I’m a human being, goddammit! My life has value!”

    So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

    “I’m as mad as hell,

    and I’m not going to take this anymore!!”

  • darkcycle

    Education and medical care?…the free market solution is pay for your own or go without. Same with Arts to a lesser extent.
    The only word needed to justify government’s role in health care is “contagion”. Without some system of public healthcare, we are powerless to stop a mass outbreak, EVEN IF vaccines and easy treatment are available. Same arguement applies to fire protection. If my eaves are four feet from my neighbor’s, I damn well want the F.D. to respond to a fire at his house, even if he hasn’t paid his taxes.

  • Duncan20903

    BTW the only reason our Military isn’t already in Mexico for years and years is because the Mexicans have some sort of weird hang up on foreign military forces occupying their country. I’m not sure if it’s been long enough for the idea to be born in Texas, they’ve got some special history there you know. IIRC Texas used to be part of Mexico, then declared independence and became a stand alone country for a few years before it signed on to be part of the US. That’s a vague memory so it might be inaccurate. I apologize in advance if it isn’t correct. But I am certain there was some intrigue between the Texans and the Mexicans that might make this a political non-starter in Mexico. If we give them a choice in the matter anyway, no way do they get to just say no if we insist.

  • Duncan20903

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    “Small government”

    “Drug free society”

    “Free country”

    “Equality for all”

    “Truth, justice and the American way”

  • Duncan20903

    ezrydyn you need to be a loyal American and take the enemy from the rear after we force them that far south. Give up whatever nonsense drove you to be an ex-pat and just take care of business!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl-2kK3xI7I

  • Duncan20903

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    “You know one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror”

    – – -G. W. Bush, Sept 6, 2006

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/06/five_years/main1977164.shtml

  • B-roll

    Rick Perry is just a BIG GOVERNMENT Republican hiding behind the facade of “small governmet”. These are the same politicians while not Progressive as liberal democrats who don’t listen to the populace but are reactionary Republicans who also DON’T LISTEN to the populace

  • darkcycle, You’re right about contagious diseases, of course, but my comment was already too long to go into those kinds of details.

    By the way, a lot of fire protection used to be provided privately by insurance companies, and that system failed for the reason you point out: If the building next to the one you insured caught fire, the smart thing to do was to put it out. That allowed a lot of people to get away without paying for fire protection, which meant cities didn’t have enough firefighters to protect them well. It’s a classic example of market failure and government remedy.

    Finally, you’re right that “the free market solution is pay for your own or go without” when it comes to education and healthcare. But the same is true for vital necessities like food and clothing, and in this country you can’t drive for 10 minutes in a big city without passing a dozen places where you can get both quite easily. If we can figure out a way to make the healthcare market work as well as the clothing market (or the car market or the television market or the cell-phone market) it will go a long way toward making everybody better off.

    Benjamin Franklin made a pretty good argument that education is a public good and should be publicly provided–in a government of, by, and for the people, you don’t want to live next to stupid people for the same reason you don’t want to live next to a burning building. On the other hand, I’m not convinced our current public school system is solving this problem.

  • herrenvolk im Das Homeland

    Network is a classic movie. Faye Dunaway is smokin’ hot as usual and the scene where Ned Beatty’s character breaks down globalism to Howard is epic. They Live is some more anti-authoritarian dystopian nightmare flicks that must be seen by free thinkers. The Matrix trilogy, THX1138, 1984.

  • druggies… pffffft! … sittin’ round makin’ sense and shit. Whatup with that?

    Pete says:

    creating an opening that is filled with more violence.

    That’s the whole point of the military-industrial-incarceration-corporate-complex, create more violence. More violence begats more weapons begats more business begats more profit begats more disparity which… begats more violence… it’s the perpetual motion machine.

    And hell yeah, let’s invade Mexico.

    Tell ya what guvnor, y’all grab a .22 and head that way, start shooting when you hit the border. We’ll be along directly, you hold ’em off ’til we get there. Yep. We’re uh… right behind you…

  • Duncan20903

    Americans are the most militant culture on the face of the earth. We’re conditioned from the cradle to love mass murder on epic scales. Has anybody watched TV lately? Gone to a movie? Played a video game?

    Read the history of the revolutionary war? Oh heck, strike that, we need look no farther than Canada to see that Great Britain is still extracting a pound of flesh per Canadian per month because they didn’t have the sense to revolt. No civil war either, I guess those people are in favor of slavery! Do they allow blacks in the NHL? Have you ever seen a famous black hockey player? What, they excel at all other sports but not hockey? I think the systemic racism of Canadian’s is plain to see. “The black is a better athlete to begin with because he’s been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.” – – – Dimetrios Georgios Synodinos, aka “Jimmy the Greek”
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    darkcycle if you want the FD to keep your house from burning you’d better make sure that you’re neighbor has paid his taxes. It’s what you get for not caring that he’s got an illegal merryjewanna farm in his house and refusing to pay his fair share! All them potheads never pay a penny of the taxes they owe. Some lame excuse about getting arrested if they admit that they owe the gov’t money!

    The peasants are revolting! Really, there should be a law that they have to bathe at least once a year. Even the people of Kentucky have that much sense.

  • Duncan20903

    Now let’s not use incendiary words like “invade”. What was it we called the invasion of Iraq so The House of Bush could finally eliminate the House of Hussein once and for all? That played well in the press.
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    Wow, I had forgotten that Ned Beatty was in Network. Now that fellow was a great actor, and never ended up type cast. From getting ass raped in the woods in Deliverance to his depiction of a police detective in Homicide, Life on the Streets he’s been simply brilliant. Not an easy trick for someone that fugly. Good god, and born and inbred in Lou-uh-ville Kentucky as well. Did you know that when you land at the Lou-uh-ville airport the first thing you get to see after you get outside security is a statue of Colonel Sanders sitting on a bench? Yes, it is in fact called Lou-uh-ville by the residents. They can easily identify a foreigner when he calls it Looeyville, or even better Lou-iss-ville. I apologize, I did 3 years in Radcliffe KY which is about 30 miles south of Lou-ville (also acceptable). Hehe, my spell checker suggests Louisville as the correct spelling of Looeyville. Oh that is too funny. Google Lou-uh-ville it’s hilarious. OK, maybe just for people that weren’t born in the vicinity who were sentenced to living in the area. Umm no, I don’t like or respect the residents of Kentuckiana, what’s your point?

    What a broad number of acting roles, simply astounding. Including, but not limited to (???):

    Bobby Tripe in Deliverance;
    Tennessee lawyer Delbert Reese in Nashville;
    Mr. Dardis in All the President’s Men;
    priest Edwards in Exorcist II: The Heretic;
    Lex Luthor’s henchman Otis in Superman: The Movie and Superman II;
    businessman Sydney Morehouse in The Toy;
    Borisov and Pavel Petrovic in The Fourth Protocol;
    Rudy Reuttiger’s father in Rudy;
    Harmo in Sweet Land;
    Montana’s corrupt Senator Charles F. Meachum in Shooter; U.S. Congressman Doc Long in Charlie Wilson’s War;
    and the voice of antagonist Lots-O’-Huggin’ Bear in Toy Story 3.

    Wow, I had no clue. I guess his work in Network wasn’t memorable, I sure didn’t remember it.

    OK, I’ve bothered DWR enough for today. Nothing else to do here but sit and watch the grass grow. I think I’ll download and watch Network, what the heck. C-ya!

  • Sukoi

    Hey, easy on us Texans we’re not all running in this moronathon…

    On another note, Pete get’s quoted: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/texas-governor-calls/

  • ezrydn

    Duncan,

    I’m not without my abilities but shaking a pitchfork at an AK-47 isn’t what I had in mind.

    The Mexican Constitution is where the “no foreign troops on our land” comes from and they won’t change it. You have no idea what you’d be up against, coming down here. It would be looked upon as a regular “invasion,” not an incursion or anything like that. This place isn’t just donkeys and dirt roads, my friend.

    The common people wouldn’t welcome you. I would equate them with the NVA if so pushed. And that’s just the people! I’ve grown to understand how they think here. And if you think the USA could just prance down here and take over during some weekend, you’ve got another thought coming.

    I still hold to the oath I took to “protect against enemies, both foreign and domestic” no matter where I live. Yet, many up there would willing put my life in more danger. No invading force will stop long enough to ask me for my ID. In warfare, it’s shoot first and ask questions later. Maybe you’re unaware of that.

    Warfare is not needed to quell the problem. It’s actions by our chicken-squat Congress that’s needed. Congress generates the force that emboldens the violence and murder. If you’re really have a need to march on something, make it Washington and the Congress. Change the problems with Congress and Mexico’s problems will start to subside.

    As a combat vet, I don’t want any more war. But I’m not going to step aside for one either. Even at my age.

    PS…You gonna be in the front of the assault?

  • DdC

    As American Citizens we seem to be embattled from every side on issues of national soverignty. Our own President along with business interest groups appear to be happy to concede our borders, our resources, and our national identity.

    Mexamericanada

    On March 23, 2005, heads of government Vincente Fox, George W. Bush, and Paul Martin launched the North American partnership at a meeting in Waco, Texas, with the expressed goal of “a safer, more prosperous North America.” According to the documents, the partnership’s “working groups” include government and business leaders from the United States, Mexico and Canada

    Mexamericanada is the soon to be recognized name of the land mass now known as North America. Through the use of a common currency called the “Amero”, this great nation will be the first major step to the coveted one world government. Upon the installation of the one world government, all citizens will be deemed “illegal immigrants” and then ethnically cleansed in alphabetical order. Hooray Mexamericanada!

    Thousand points of light
    I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation, doing good. We will work hand in hand, encouraging, sometimes leading, sometimes being led, rewarding. We will work on this in the White House, in the Cabinet agencies. I will go to the people and the programs that are the brighter points of light, and I will ask every member of my government to become involved. The old ideas are new again because they are not old, they are timeless: duty, sacrifice, commitment, and a patriotism that finds its expression in taking part and pitching in.

  • tag

    My blog is called “The Afghexican Gringo” and I really liked “What we need is an afghanistan closer to home” because that’s exactly what I was aiming at!

  • tag

    P.S. I agree, the corrupt mexican government is what needs to be addressed, and the drug demand, but obviously its easier for the U.S. government to throw a bunch of money and troops in their like they handle every other problem. It’s the jewel of our crown…money we don’t have and the military. And innocent people are always the consequence that is rarely addressed, especially in Mexico, especially the poor ones. Which by the way, accounts for something like half of the population.

  • DdC

    That’s sovereignty, the edit function is defunked…

  • darkcycle

    Duncan: smoke more dope man, you’ve stopped making sense.
    What the whoseywhatsis do you think I said there? I said nothing about any specific war, least of all a non-revolutionary, non-war, that didn’t happen in Canada. Re-read please, and this time observe that I merely made an obvious comment about the blood-thistiness of this culture, and the ease with which non-warriors will commit real, live warriors to die for idiotic causes. And I noted we are conditioned to love mass murder from the very cradle. From that you got that I was a Peacenik?

  • DdC

    In these Untied States of Anemica…

    Typical of Uncle Bozo to think with his ass and send more troops. I don’t know why they even bother to print fairy Perry’s line of Texas bullshit. I’m in strong favor of giving it back to Mexico. Starting a yearly pilgrimage to the Alamo just to piss on the wall like Ozzie.

    The Military Industrial Complex and now its brother the Prison Industrial Complex and the same chemical poison industrial complexes that treat the sickness from the poisons with the same damn chemical Pharmaceutical conglomerates. All while outlawing competition and curtailing those legalizing their profits away. The Neocon dream. The simple and easy answer to Mexico and the Xenophobes in the border states is to legalize Hemp, same as Canada.

    First it would provide locals jobs and incomes to thwart their crossing the border for low wage Ag jobs in the states. Secondly making the borders easier to monitor and third, it would pollinate any Cartel pot, making a dent in their sales as much as Cali growers do. Combined with the states legalizing Ganja to bring in tourist jobs, and thereby freeing RxGanja and Hemp by default, for industrial and medicinal research and development and jobs outtha kazoo.

    But we know it ain’t about secure borders or safe citizens. Its about feeding the machine and being good little obedient cogs. Brainwashing any individual thought out with legal mind numbing booze fauxnews and white powders. History shows how the lynch-mobs dealt with the insolent Ganja toking blacks. How Anslinger and Hearst publications hobgoblined Ganja off the market shelf.

    The very same intimidation, blame and shame tactics of the Dick Army of suckered Teabog Ditzo’s or Booshit, featuring Cheney and Rummy for a third appearance since Nexxon. It’s about cheap labor. Via NAFTA/GATT or “police actions” and legal prison slaves like the Ganjawar brings. Breaking the American worker to third world prices. Same trickle down voodoo economics Rayguns prayed for. If tax breaks created jobs, then why are so many unemployed since the tax breaks started? Duh!

    Obombo’s still too young to be historically considered Neofied. The Neocon “resistance” is of the Banksters by the Korpses for the Neo-Fascists, ignorant unwashed masses be damned. Klintoon graduated with honors as well as the manipulations to include his old lady SoS, and Hilary Care right off the bat. Keeping us divided and police action profits perpetuating.

    Today we are more civilized with 404 gag laws and mandatory minimum deterrents to jury trials. Leaving 95% to please bargain. Including paying Kalifono rehabs and drug worrier pisstasters. If that isn’t proof more people are getting addicted to that opossum bud, or skunk, squirrel? Statistics don’t lie. It ain’t your grandma’s dope. 98% of the heathern devil weed confiscated is narcotic burlap. Now isn’t that protection for the kiddies worth giving up a smidgeon of Liberty and inexpensive homegrown medicine?

    Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol orGanja/Hemp.

  • ezrydn

    Attack my country is one thing. Attack my home puts me in a completely different role and mode.

  • Frank Furter

    Bardstown Road is a cool section of Louisville. Deja Vu gentlemen’s clubs are another fun thing to do and the giant baseball bat. Ahaha Ned Beatty the thespian who would’ve thought.

  • Thanks for the tip on me getting quoted at Raw Story, Sukoi. Nice.

  • Duncan20903

    You know, the thing that really, really sucks about the war on (some) drugs is that it’s killing the art of sarcasm and parody, just strangling them dead. Alright, attempted art as the case may be.

    I apologize ezrydyn, I forgot labeling sarcasm and parody as such is required nowadays. Rest assured that my motto for participation in war or similar danger or intrigue is adopted from the brave King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. In the following video, we see the King and the Knights come face to face with the legendary black beast of Buraawww, and see them put their philosophy in action.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMxWLuOFyZM Another example is when facing the the most foul cruel and bad tempered rodent you’ve ever set eyes on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StHwAffUNxo

    Oh my yes, you can count on me. You’ve never seen an old man move as quickly in the opposite direction as I will when faced with mortal danger.

    (Required disclaimer: the above is parody and/or sarcasm, and as such is not meant to be taken seriously, but is intended to cause be people to become amused and lighthearted. It should in no way be taken as a serious statement in the support of…umm, well whatever some lunatic could or would use comparable content in the serious application of his lunatical beliefs or visions. You may laugh now, if you’re a person so inclined as to enjoy parody and or sarcasm. If you’re one of the lunatics referenced feel free to go propose a law, we need more of those no doubt.)
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    Hey tag, welcome. We can certainly handle the cannabis demand here. The quality of Mexican cannabis has certainly landed in the toilet, nothing like the Acapulco Gold or Oaxacan they used to export in the 1970s. Sheesh, they don’t even bother with brand names anymore, it’s just Mexican or cartel weed or brick or bunk weed nowadays. Now that’s some stuff worthy of being called ‘weed’. I’m really not sure why we couldn’t take care of the coca and opium too. I understand that coca needs to be grown above 1500 feet but we’ve got plenty of that in the Mountain time zone. Shucks, they’ve even got some in West Virginia. If they can grow enough opium to supply the world in Afghanistan I can’t believe that we can’t do that in the US. Every video I’ve ever seen of Afghanistan makes me think their major export must be rocks. Premium rocks hand harvested by the indigenous folks for about 20 cents a ton, and exported to wherever people who buy rocks wholesale for retail resale are buying. Oh, wait, sorry, I forgot we wanted the fantasy land thinking of ‘taking care’ of the demand by the complete, wholesale change of human nature. That’s just slightly less likely as taking care of global warming/climate change/whatever they’re worried about today by manipulating the distance of the Earth from the sun. Just retrofit the planet with some thrusters and we don’t even have to worry about which it is, global warming or cooling. Once we figure it out we just hit the thrusters and move the planet nearer or further from the sun as needed. If neither happens heck, we’ll have ‘stimulated’ the economy cause that’ll cost a few bucks and keep a number of people employed, and be a lot more impressive than paying people to dig holes and to fill them back in. Still, more likely than making people agree to quit getting high.

    (reiterate disclaimer from above)

  • is somebody slamming peaceniks?… Puhleeeaze…

    Peaceniks are as vital as warriors are. I mean really. I love Gandhi and King as much as I do Crazy Horse… and Crazy Horse, he was one bad dude, yet he lived like Gandhi, he had squat but was rich beyond measure in his community because of what he gave to and for others. And Gandhi? Holy shit… he did what he did w/o raising a finger. In fact that not raising a finger was as deadly a tactic against the machine as any well placed explosive or monkeywrench.

    Obviously Guvnor Perry hasn’t thought things thru. Until he does tho’ he needs to be mocked and harangued for being a… hmmm… (to quote one of my favorite TV dads Red Foreman) dumbass.

  • Duncan20903

    Hmm, I wrote this days ago but never posted it. Found it cleaning up my tabs. That may have had something to do with the tincture mentioned in the last line of the post.
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    darkcycle, no, the point was supposed to be that the US was founded on a philosophy of war because the founding fathers couldn’t wait and acquire independence peacefully like the Canadians. The comments about the Canadians were supposed to denigrate the legality of keeping human chattel which the Canadians didn’t do as a matter of public policy. IIRC the Texas Declaration of Independence had something to do with Texans wanting to keep slaves but I really am kind of fuzzy on the subject of Texas. Heck it was only last year that I learned they can split into 5 states if they’re so inclined.

    Since I’m a peacenik myself and kind of fond of other people who believe that peace love and understanding aren’t funny I guess I’m confused why you’d be offended by that, even though I really wasn’t thinking about your beliefs vis a vis war and peace one way or the other.
    I guess I forgot the disclaimer on that post too, and I do apologize for that. I also know that black people just aren’t big fans of ice hockey, not that they couldn’t get on a professional hockey team if so inclined and in possession of the requisite talent.

    Once again, sorry for forgetting the required disclaimer, and I hope we can still be friends or at least friendly. I’ve got enough problems with the clowns, I sure don’t need any more people that want to eat me. Well, in a mean way anyway. Women who are so inclined are more than welcome. There’s no waiting line ladies! [sigh]

    I’ve actually been consuming very little cannabis lately. I really am not very inclined to blather on the Internet when I’m enjoying cannabis. You’re more likely to find me at Youtube or Piratebay than DWR when I’m high. I still haven’t touched my found vial of tincture and that was found over a week ago. Remember, Duncan doesn’t ever smoke muggles, well maybe if I’m at a party and someone else prefers that delivery method. I sure wouldn’t want anyone who was at the meeting of the DC medical cannabis steering committee when that nice Larrywanna fellow who pulled out a joint of some Pink Pussy to call me a liar. That was actually the last time for me though and that maybe almost a year ago now. I’d have tried to have talked him into using the Volcano if I’d had it with me but those things don’t travel well at all. Maybe you’re right and I need to see if that tincture is still viable. You know, that’s a good idea. Thanks DC!

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