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Defining the need for treatment

The Drug Czar:

The data also show that nearly 21 million people in the U.S. needed treatment for substance abuse. However, 95 percent of this group felt they did not need treatment

Makes you wonder.

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12 comments to Defining the need for treatment

  • Benjamin

    95 percent thought they needed prison time even less.

  • ezrydn

    Ya think it might have something to do with “court directed” rehab??? Hummmm?

  • … now that’s scary shit. Talk about a disconnect from reality…

    After a better search thru the Droopy images… I think this fits Gil to a T:

    after a thorough investigation, Deputy Droopy has the facts!

  • Just me.

    95% should be left the hell alone to live thier lives.

    21 million people being told they cant live how they choose.Drug abuse isnt good…nanny government is worse.

  • darkcycle

    Of course the treatment racket insists coersion is effective (at bringing in customers). And they pay kickbacks to judges, so it’s a win/win right? Who cares if society loses.
    Just hope you can afford treatment though, or it’s jail for you, bucko. Because you’re a poor loser, or don’t speak english well enough to ask for a real lawyer, we have a P.D. right here, who’ll plead you guilty without even looking at your case. And you get a free de-lousing. What could be better.

  • Duncan20903

    7% of the population are addicts?

    Shoot,there’s even people who blame cannabis for causing the sinking of the USS Titanic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3taGb6Znlk

    http://www.youtube.com/user/EggsZachtly#p/a/u/2/Tt4ZuV2avug

    Oh right, 497 1/2 feet of rope indeed. Sorry baby, wrong color. If you ask me it was the rich Jews from Miami that were more likely the proximate cause of the ship’s sinking, but it’s just so much easier to blame the pothead.

  • Duncan20903

    When I was on probation they arranged my entry and the cost was sliding scale.

    The better choice IMO is to do the Salivation Army’s 90 day program. The probation/parole officers love the religious aspect, and The SA just wants free labor so they don’t fuck with your head, and they let you go on day 90 regardless of anything else.The best part is they pay you to participate. I was getting $7 a week but it’s probably the stipend is probably up to $10/week by now. Yeah waking me up at 4:30 am for a whiz quiz was a pain in the ass. But it is actually the best time of day to do the test if you want to catch somebody who is getting high. Almost everyone wakes up with a full bladder, the concentration of particulates is highest first thing in the morning, and there’s no time to do dilution to cause a false negative.

  • darkcycle

    Where I’m at, there’s one, count ’em one treatment hospital open to the indigent. The waiting list is six months out for VOLUNTARY admissions. Drug court here gives 90 days to get into rehab or gotojail. Guess what happens.
    Don’t worry, that “sliding scale” you were afforded will be made up out of society’s (your) pockets. And wait a minute….you paid on a sliding scale, how much? and they paid a stipend (!?)of 7 dollars a week….
    They gave you back seven dollars a week of your own money and basicly used you as slave labor (there’s a minimun wage in this country)? That’s a good deal how? What were you doing to get you shipped off to a work camp, you heinous person?
    Doesn’t seem like a good deal to me. And I’d like to point out that while I never worked as an addiction counselor, I did contract as a psychologist in the county jail here. I never heard of an outcome like yours among the people I routinely tested. No money= no treatment hereabouts, unless you have the liesure to continue living in your addiction for another three months, give or take. For most people really desperate for treatment it’s usually quit or die, right the fuck now. That’s another reason I dislike the drug courts…they tie up the majority of treatment beds with pot cases, and I have personally watched addicts die of their addictions waiting for a Tx. bed.

  • Servetus

    The 95-percent repudiation of drug treatment by drug users is probably the same percentage one would get were psychologists to declare that some people are addicted to sports or religion.

    Addictions to sports or religion might really exist, but who’s going to complain about it enough to get money to set up treatment programs to cure it?

  • strayan

    I’ve posted this before, but I’ll do it again:

    “As with problem drinking, gambling, and narcotics use [1]–[9] population studies show consistently that a large majority of smokers who permanently stop smoking do so without any form of assistance [10]–[15]. In 2003, some 20 years after the introduction of cessation pharmacotherapies, smokers trying to stop unaided in the past year were twice as numerous as those using pharmacotherapies and only 8.8% of US quit attempters used a behavioural treatment [16]. Moreover, despite the pharmaceutical industry’s efforts to promote pharmacologically mediated cessation and numerous clinical trials demonstrating the efficacy of pharmacotherapy, the most common method used by most people who have successfully stopped smoking remains unassisted cessation (cold turkey or reducing before quitting [16],[17]). In 1986, the American Cancer Society reported that: “Over 90% of the estimated 37 million people who have stopped smoking in this country since the Surgeon General’s first report linking smoking to cancer have done so unaided.” [18]. Today, unassisted cessation continues to lead the next most successful method (nicotine replacement therapy [NRT]) by a wide margin [15],[16].” http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.1000216

  • darkcycle

    Psychologists by and large don’t treat addictions. They diagnose and treat mental illness and provide testing services. We encourage patients to seek help where they are willing. Addiction and recovery is a different field, and there is alot of friction between addiction counselors and psychologists.

  • i’m still trying to get someone to explain how being addicted to something should be construed as a crime