Confusion over CBD for Children

A poll conducted by C. S. Mott’s Children’s Hospital, University of Michigan Health—”Parent perspectives on CBD use in children”, reveals that some parents hesitate giving CBD to their kids because they lack information about its effects. Some think it’s no different from psychoactives like THC or the full spectrum cannabis flower:

Most parents say they either don’t know much about CBD use in children (46%) or they never heard of it prior to this poll (34%); 17% report knowing some, and only 3% say they know a lot about CBD use in children. Most parents (71%) have never used a CBD product themselves, while 24% have tried CBD and 5% use a CBD product regularly.

Parents say the factors that would be very important in deciding whether to give their child a CBD product are side effects (83%), if it was tested for safety in children (78%), how well it works in children (72%), recommendation of their child’s doctor (63%), approval of the US Food and Drug Administration (58%), and product reviews (41%).

Three-quarters of parents (73%) think CBD may be a good option for children when other medications don’t work. Most parents (83%) think CBD products should be regulated by the FDA, and three-quarters (74%) say CBD for children should require a doctor’s prescription. One-third of parents (35%) think taking CBD is basically the same as using marijuana.

Over 90% of parents have never given or considered giving their child a CBD product. Only 2% have given their child a CBD product, while 4% have considered CBD for their child; 1% say their child has used CBD without their permission.

Among parents who have given or considered giving CBD for their child, only 29% say they talked with their child’s healthcare provider about CBD use. Parents’ most common reasons for giving or considering CBD for their child include anxiety (51%), sleep problems (40%), ADHD (33%), muscle pain (20%), autism (19%), and to make their child feel better in general (13%). […]

Parents also demonstrated some inconsistencies in their attitudes about CBD products for children, including the regulation of these products. For example, 83% indicated CBD products should be regulated by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), yet only 58% rated FDA approval as very important to their decision about using CBD for their child. Currently, only one CBD product has received FDA approval for use in children, as a treatment for a rare form of epilepsy. It’s unclear if parents recognize that none of the CBD products they see in stores are regulated by the FDA. […]

One-third of parents in this Mott Poll believe that taking CBD is basically the same as using marijuana, which is consistent with parents’ overall limited knowledge about CBD products. […]

Ignorance about medicines can affect a child’s health. CBD continues to prove itself a side-effect-free treatment for a wide variety of unusually different health problems. Given Congress’s traditional rejection of science that doesn’t suit its own political or moralizing intent, federally funded research establishing the benefits of cannabinoids will continue to receive little or no initiative or enthusiasm.

A decades long government quest to prove that mental, physical, or social harm emerges directly from cannabis consumption has consistently failed. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result provides governments with a convenient excuse for perpetual war of the sort described by George Orwell in his book 1984, in which he illustrates how socially devastating wars get equated with peace.

Federally funded research proposals still trend toward proving something or anything wrong with cannabinoids. Providing the NIDA with a useful Congressional directive to fund scientific research to expose the benefits of CBD and marijuana’s other amazing constituents is necessary to make it happen at the federal level. The move would represent a gigantic step toward eliminating a dimwitted Middle Ages mindset that promotes ignorance and hysteria over the medicinal effects of simple herbs. Medical necessity could emerge and create a critical historical benchmark. Children might finally have the complete right of access to all available medicines and medical interventions they need and deserve.

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13 Responses to Confusion over CBD for Children

  1. NorCalNative says:

    Confusion over CBD. How could it be otherwise? Prohibition has pushed us away from full spectrum whole-plant cannabinoids towards single molecules like CBD.

    If we’re not training health care providers on the endocannabinoid system they can’t make effective educated recommendations.

    Cannabinoids are useful cradle-to-the-grave. Kid’s should be able to add THC to CBD in ratios that improve therapuetic outcomes without psychoactivity.

    Cannabis medicine is as much art as science. That means lots of experimenting and trial and error to find individual sweet spots. I believe it’s a huge mistake to focus on a single molecule like CBD.

    CBD acts as a dimmer switch. In science terms it’s a negative allosteric neuromodulator of THC. This means patients can use CBD dominant products with added medicinal THC. So my major point is parents and physicians should get past this Single molecule fixation and instead add as much THC as tolerated.
    Adding THC without incurring psychoactivity increases the therapuetic window.

    OT. I’m a part of the class action law suit against PG&E due to fires. They have begun dispersing settlement monies and by the end of the year I’ll be six-figures richer.

    CBD OT. Recently I’ve used a 1:1 ratio CBD oil to remove a wart in a few days. I’ve also been using it for the past few days to manage any symptoms of caffeine withdrawal. With the 1:1 ratio oil I don’t get headaches from quitting cold turkey.

  2. Diana says:

    how does cbd oil help sleep apnea

    • Son of Sam Walton says:

      CBN and CBG. CBN specifically is good for sleep, but CBG is good for pain, which should help with body relaxation. Then again, terpenes are just like vitamins and minerals the body needs and craves, so if there is no terpene profile, your success is reduced.

      Then again, NorCalNative is right about the use of THC or the whole plant spectrum. I use oil every night because my sleep problems are caused by the War in Iraq and a mix of physical pain from jobs . . . ignorance is bliss and deadly. And when it comes to terpenes, if the purpose was for an intoxication effect from smoked cannabis, then a higher terpene profile of 10% and higher found on 18% THC should give people a stronger high than 2-4% Terpenes and 26% THC when comparing Sativas, Indicas, and Hybrids side-by-side. Terps are good for allergies like honey is. Terpenes, plus all the CBDs found in the whole plant cannabis, plus THC’s protective aspects might be the reason why babies born in Jamaica experience reduced health risk from poverty when compared to Jamaican mothers that don’t smoke cannabis while pregnant, yet living in the same economic/population climate. Both mothers might give their unborn babies the same amount/quality of water and food, but the mother who smokes reduces her stress, gives the baby a layer of oil that filters out the toxic while aiding in cell production and dismantling mutated cells, plus the CBDs and the terpenes would be like giving the baby and the mother vitamins and minerals–even needed minerals/scents (pine) that are not widely available based on the geographic area but can be found in certain plants.

      • Lynn says:

        ” ignorance is bliss and deadly”

        Deadly, ultimately..

        Ignorance of lies and deceptions (=most mainstream news and establishment decrees) is bliss because exposing yourself to that is self-propagandization.

        Ignorance of truths is not, or only temporarily or rarely, bliss because it is ultimately self-defeating.

        The FALSE mantra of “ignorance is bliss”, promoted in the latter sense, is a product of a fake sick culture that has indoctrinated its “dumbed down” (therefore TRULY ignorant, therefore easy to control) people with many such manipulative slogans.

        You can find the proof that ignorance is never bliss (only superficial fake bliss), and how you get to buy into this lie (and other self-defeating lies), in the article “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” …. https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html

        “Blissful” believers in “ignorance is bliss” — blissfully stupid people — are nearly always self-destructive indifferent ignoramuses and/or members of herd stupidity…

        “2 weeks to flatten the curve has turned into…3 shots to feed your family!” — Unknown

        “If ‘ignorance is bliss’ –there should be more happy people.” — Unknown

        • Son of Sam Walton says:

          There are days I wish I never knew all this stuff like we were talking about all this Russia/Ukraine War stuff in 2014 (NG Reserves in the east/Black Sea) . . . and back in 2008, the Bush Doctrine honed in on man-made/natural made global warming coming head to head in regions of Africa–like we were talking about the kidnapped girls in Nigeria back in 2008, though it happened after 2014 (water/grazing/blame) . . . and all the talk about war in Mozambique and Ethiopia back in 2008 because of Water/grazing/blame. Look at the Map of Mexico: It looks like camo with all the twists the cartels do in territory and it’s painful to write about Mexico and Putin using BitCoin during the Obama/Trump years being ignored. And then there is all the people from the Balkins we know who fought in the Civil War as 12yr old or 14yr old boys now/were working as Private Contractors for food/fuel in Iraq and Afghanistan giving you info on Georgia/Ukrain/the Moldovian strip while the Finacial Crisis is blooming and before the bank bailouts . . . like 333 members of Congress and 61 US Senators took Savings and Loan bribe money between 82-88 and we NEVER HAD Another Bank bailout again (and certainly we issued not a single Felony, unlike the 1,000 + for the S&L years after 2008/2009 for Finacial Crimes). . . or the $2.4 Trillion in Laundered Drug money the big banks did between 1999-2017 (exposed Sep 2020) because of Wachovia (2010) and HSBC (2011) proved that it is not illegal to launder money for Osama Bin Ladin or Iran or the Cartels during a time of war. And Burma is now no longer known for Opium, but for Meth, which fuels their war and genocide, like Syrian Speed taken in pill form to fuel the war and the warrior . . . yaba–daba-do.

        • Son of Sam Walton says:

          Sorry: I mean, Financial. My keyboard has developed a lisp. Finacial seems to be stuck in my spelling.

    • NorCalNative says:

      Studies have shown that THC can decrease sleep interruption. A cannabis oil like a 1:1 tincture, half CBD and half THC would be your best bet. The 1:1 ratio has been used in numerous medical trials and is designed to get as much THC as possible while muting psychoactive effects. CBD tames THC and since it’s THC shown to help apnea go with a 1:1 before bed.

      Purchasing tested oil from a dispensary is your best bet. CBD oil without THC hasn’t shown the same results as THC. CBD oil can help with mood/irritation issues from sleep interruption so it’s not without benefit.

      • Son of Sam Walton says:

        Yo, NorCal. Do you ever add any high CBD-mid/low THC flower to your smoke sessions as a way to get even higher? I’ve discovered that just the right amount will magnify the high and of course, even more, would mute it. If my dispo has it, I usually buy CBD/THC flower specifically for that, though their ratios are not 1:1, since it’s been higher in CBD than THC.

        And I feel that testing for Covid twice a week for nearly a year and a half, sitting/working within 3ft, daily with folks who tested positive and my wife being in the running to immune/compromised, that the CBD and secondhand CBD smoke has kept me from never testing positive and her from never getting sick.

        • NorCalNative says:

          Mouth, I do pick up flower that’s near 1:1 when I see it but it’s rare. I use it as a backup to the 1:1 tincture if I can’t wait around for the tincture to work.

          My understanding is that CBD is a dimmer switch on THC, a negative allosteric neuromodulator. The idea that it would make one higher intrigues me. I can’t say it works that way for me but I’ve been around long enough to know everyone experiences drugs differently.

          As far as the Covid issue, glad to hear you’re doing okay. Part of the benefits of cannabis come from immune suppressing effects, use as an antiviral needs intelligent guidance. Recall that Donald Tashkin’s work on weed and lung cancer for NIDA was buried by the media as it never happened. If it turns out toking can be prophylactic for Covid, hippies will never get the credit.

          Project CBD and beyondthc.com are sources on the cannabis/Covid issue I trust. We’ve still got a lot to learn. Take care.

        • Son of Sam Walton says:

          All you need is like 1-3 tokes of high CBD low THC flower for an increase in your high if you feel like you have a tolerance. In Oklahoma, low quality Mexican Brick weed costs $100 an ounce on average, but 18%-28% THC high-quality West-Coast/Colorado influenced cannabis cost $50 an ounce (mix-n-match strain wise) and most dabs start off at $10 a gram . . . RSO cost $10-$25 a gram . . . an 8th of sugar/badder/wax/budder/diamonds/rosin/distillate costs $30-$40 . . . 100mg edibles cost $7-$20 . . . The less produced Caviar Weed costs $35-$50 an 8th . . . now we’ve got Soda Pop strains like Dr. Pepper which smells just like Dr. Pepper, and growers are spraying Delta 9 THC distillate to flower already testing at 34% (thus making the whole batch of flower test at 60% THC) and that costs $5-10 a gram . . . hash testing at 35%-55% THC costs $20-$25 a gram . . . a gram of mid-30% THC kief is usually $3-$5 bucks a gram and everybody has to carry papers that list the weed/edible/dabs/oil/vape terp profile, THC amount, CBD/CBG etc amount, soil quality, metals, moisture levels of soil (for rot) etc.

          If you like Cannabis, then Oklahoma should no longer be a fly-by-state. The freedom we got, plus all the help we received from California/Colorado growers/producers will make Oklahoma a cannabis influencer for places like Colorado and California and not the other way around.

          I hope you have a wonderful 420 coming up, NorCal.

          And mangos also help, lest I believe in the placebo.

  3. NorCalNative says:

    I’ve been thinking a lot about your comment. The CBD as dimmer-switch can be overcome with enough added THC. That’s what they discovered (GW Pharmaceuticals) during clinical trials for the 1:1 tincture Sativex.

    You say you’re adding the CBD/THC flower after already being high, but 1-3 tokes doesn’t really sound like enough additional THC to overtake the effects of added CBD. Is your situation atypical or is something else going on?

    It’s often claimed that CBD isn’t psychoactive, that it doesn’t get you high like THC the-high-causer. But that’s not true, because one of the special tools of CBD is mood alteration. A molecule that affects mood is most certainly psychoactive, just not in a sexy or criminal way!

    Is it possible the perceived high-enhancing effects are based on mood alteration from CBD? And, does it really matter? Perception matters.

    • Son of Sam Walton says:

      I’m adding the CBD flower to the bowl I put everything in. That is a very real possibility it comes from mood alteration. Like a synergetic effect because of the higher boost of CBD, but not enough for a dimmer feel–almost like if I hadn’t smoked in a few days or a change in elevation (the Rocky Mountains) when compared to moments I don’t add this flower. If my smoke routine and the amount haven’t changed, then the added CBD flower ‘mixed’ with it will work. But I also feel it could be the fact it is higher in CBD than THC with its shared terp profile. Midnight Mass tests at 11% CBD and 8% THC.

      I mix it with a mix of Indicas, hybrids, and Sativas when I do buy it to increase the high (when they have it). And sometimes I’ll mix all that with an array of dabs, diamonds, hash, and oil in a pipe the wife got me, a nice silicone lidded one that’s a lot bigger than a solo user would normally use, but if a walk in the woods can be 2 hrs long, then the smoke sesh should be 30 minutes or even over an hour if soaked with a combination of sugars/budder/badder/rosin/shatter/RSO oil/diamonds/kief/hash-. . . known to hold just over a gram and a half when all smushed down. I sometimes make my own sunny moon rooks from the $100 Weed Map deals (with vet discount). And when I do buy the higher CBD flower, when my dispo has it, I’ll add a pinch or two to the bong for my sleep sesh, which is usually only Indica and just maybe a bit of hybrid added. Then I do 80-125mg of RSO (which already has 2% CBD), and it works a lot faster when just sitting inside the lip like a baseball player with some chewing tobacco.

      I’m such a firm believer in Mixing the higher CBD to THC flower with one’s smoke blend–be it only flower or a mix of dabs in the pipe, that I always tell people about it . . . it gets you higher. Not too much and not too little, just the right pinch from your nug. I always fork over the added $3-$7 (wishing my Dispo had it now, at least my Watermelon Zum Zum ranges from 3%-10% CBD, but 17% THC all throughout the batch).

  4. NorCalNative says:

    Mouth, finding the right cannabis products and dosages is a personal journey. Experimenting like you’re doing is tough for Western-trained docs but it’s essential for patients to find their “sweet spots.” There is also a mental reward when you can dial in what’s best and what works.

    There is no such thing as one-size-fits-all for cannabis users and I applaud your efforts. If you’re interested, check out Ethan Russo’s paper titled “Taming THC.” Ethan helped develop the 1:1 Sativex for GW Pharmaceuticals. Using CBD with THC can increase the patient populations that can benefit because it tames the psychoactivity of THC.

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