It’s been rough living in Illinois and seeing all the progress in Colorado, California, Washington, etc., with only one of the most meager and restrictive medical marijuana programs.
So, it’s pretty thrilling to now be living in the first state in the union to pass marijuana legalization through the legislature. The final bill passed today and is expected to be signed by the Governor.
And it’s not bad-looking.
From the MPP:
The CRTA would end cannabis prohibition in Illinois and replace it with a system to tax and regulate cannabis for adults 21 and older. Starting January 1, 2020, adults could possess cannabis and purchase cannabis products in licensed stores. Possession would be limited to 30 grams of raw cannabis, cannabis-infused products containing no more than 500 mg of THC, and five grams of cannabis product in concentrated form.
In addition to legalizing cannabis for adult use, the CRTA would create robust measures to redress the harms caused to those communities targeted for cannabis arrests and convictions. The bill would: (1) clear the records of 770,000 cases, according to the Illinois State Policy Advisory Council, through unprecedented expungement provisions; (2) direct a significant amount of the tax revenue to communities hard hit by the drug war; and (3) include groundbreaking measures to ensure an inclusive, equitable industry. A summary of the bill is available here, and a more detailed look at the social and criminal justice reforms included in the legislation is available here.
Looking forward to January.
Good for you, good for Illinois.
30 grams is better than nothing, but you can’t grow your own without breaking that limit. The Tribune says medical patients will be allowed to home-grow up to five plants, but doesn’t say anything about home-grow restrictions for non-medical patents or possession restrictions for medical patients. If they allow recreational home-grow, it’s stupid to limit personal possession to less than the yield from a single plant. They say recreational mj will be regulated “similar to alcohol”. What’s the limit on alcohol possession again?
It’s a step in the right direction for sure, but home-growers will still be in violation of the law, risking stiff penalties.
I’m personally shocked and flabbergasted, having lived in Felony Illinois for a good chunk of my life. I thought that state would be one of the last. Among other reasons, the cannabis laws were part of why I left. When the rec stores open, I may have to come visit more often. Congratulations, Pete, The deed is done, and you were a part!!
That’s OK, Darkcycle. I used to compare Texas with San Francisco’s relaxed lifestyle because of how much more conservative Oklahoma is and how harsher our drug laws were. Now we have a law that requires one dispensary for every town–at least, instead of laws allowing towns to restrict owners from operating.
In Oklahoma, I can buy THC meant to go up my ass and then I can put a patch on, eat ice cream (500mg), do dabs, wax, live rosin, smoke pins, smoke value kush at $25 an 1/8, smoke fire at $25 a gram, I can eat honey, I can put jam on my bread. I can also drink orange juice in Oklahoma too, as well as tea, plus gummies, suckers, candy bars, cotton candy, brownies, cookies, bonbons, caramels, and THC elixirs and buy moonrocks, caviar joints, we’ve got crystal -granulated THC, cheap $1 pre-rolls (after spending $20 on edibles), and I can buy a joint for $200 bucks if I’m willing to fork it over.
Now, if I could only feel edibles. In Las Vegas, I slammed back 50mg worth of gummies and had to smoke on my vape pen 3hrs later just to get high. I think I’ll dose at 130-150mg next–considering 50mg is the amount you eat when wanting to stay sober. I’ve eaten edibles 7 times and have not experienced it yet. Maybe I should just do 200mg for my next dose if I’d like a buzz.
Go easy on that trust me. I never felt ’em, until I FELT ’em…wasn’t ready for what I got.
“Now if I could only feel edibles…”
Sucks to be a fast metabolizer. Liver metabolism varies greatly from person to person. Fast liver metabolization makes it harder to get a buzz from edibles. I need 400 to 500 mg to catch a buzz and it’s just too costly to go that route. OTOH when you get the dose right it’s a combo body-head high you can’t get with toking or vaping or dabbing.
Experimenting with transdermal patches with much smaller dosing than edibles gave me more of a buzz. Two 3:1 THC-to-CBD patches got me higher than I wanted. Enough that I ate 40mg of CBD to try and bring me down. I could have just removed the patch (the only form of dosing you can reverse by removal) but chose not to.
Fast metabolizers might want to try the transdermal patches. Just don’t confuse them with topical patches or creams which DO NOT enter the blood stream. The awesome thing about dosing through the skin is you can get 12-hours of relief with a patch. One of the medical bitches about weed is the short duration of effect and that’s certainly not the case with the transdermal approach.
Moonrocks are awesome for tokers with high tolerances.
Congrats Oklahoma. Sounds like y’all did it right Mouthy.
NCN, I’ve never tried the patches, but I do remember a chemical, still sold apparently. Called DMSO. It was controversial in the 70s as a transdermal applicator. Rubbing it on the arm could provide an entrance for LSD. I’ve wondered if it had the same application for Ganja. As for edibles, I take it slow. What DC said. I have bonked out on Â½ a 500mg S’Mores. Some of the CCCookies weren’t very potent. Gummies and Chocolates are novel but not intense as directed. Never ate a pack of them. I always supplement with a daily doober.
DMSO helps medicines get through the skin and can affect proteins, carbohydrates, fats, and water in the body.
DMSO was recommended to me as a way to enhance the absorption of cannabinoids through the skin by my prohibitionst doc years ago. The transdermal patches have a penetrating agent and don’t require DMSO.
Where I’m living I have two transdermal patch options. Mary’s Medicinals and Papa & Barkley. Mary’s uses smaller dosing and has a pharmaceutical-grade appearing patch, whereas Papa & Barkley’s patches (my preference) look like rosin on a bandaid because it is rosin.
DMSO, rosin, and a good quality bandaid and you’ve got the makings of your own transdermal patch.
We have Mary’s and P&B too. I was using a Shea Butter 30/1 and 20/1 cbd/thc topical and the Chronic Essentials syringe of 1g CBD and also for this latest client. I’ve had results with the citrus spray CBD. Wiping out his Epilepsy Grand Mals in less than a year. The same CBD syringes kept my 15 year Cerebral Palsy “client/friend” calm and relaxed in passing. Without the hospice morphine kit and after they cold turkey dropped him from his seizure meds. Still can’t justify an excuse for myself to use anything but my old reliable Joint. Be Well.
We have Mary’s up here…a single one-to-one will knock out my spasming shoulder for about eight hours. Two had me uncomfortable after about five hours, and had to remove them. I have two waiting for my next sore muscles.
NCN or DC
Do you have access to Chronic Essentials High CBD syringe? I can’t find it and am wondering if it was too potent for the present regulations. The website loops the items without a way to order. 3 dispensaries I checked are out or haven’t seen it in a while. http://www.chronicessentials.com/
This Bloom delivery (2016) list them under Prop 215…
Chronic Essentials’ hash oil is made using a CO2 extraction method to make a very pure high CBD product free of any solvents. CBD oils may help with inflammation, pain, tumor suppression, and diabetes. Available in two strengths, the standard 1:1 CBD Oil is 39% CBD, 37.06% THC, and .55% CBN and the High CBD Oil is 68.98% CBD, 3.36% THC, and .1% CBN.
Haven’t seen that brand in Washington, but I don’t get to the stores all that often, and I get what I came for and leave, I don’t spend a lot of time browsing. I get annoyed when a 20 something bud tender tries to tell me all about the differences between indica and sativa for the 150th time. Kid, I was trippin at dead concerts ten years before you were even conceived.
Chronic Essentials is unknown to me. I believe new regulations may be responsible for their absence from the market.
That’s the reason I took two transdermal patches in the first place. I wasn’t trying to get high, I was trying to replicate the therapeutic effect of the “old” Prop 215 version of the patch which was stronger.
The newer version of the patches have approximately 1/3 less cannabinoids due to regulations.
Hash oil in the plastic syringes is really hard to find post-legalization. I currently have to make a 5-hour round trip to another county to get 1-gram syringes at 3x the old Prop 215 price. And, I can only find CBD dominant varieties of the oil.
Legalization fucked Medical cannabis. Hash oil sans sugar and fats is the best edible for me. RSO in a high-THC 3-gram plastic syringe is my sweet spot. Dose titration with plain hash oil versus hash-oil in food is much easier. Edibles was a big part of my therapy as hash oil until CA passed legalization.
Thanks NCN, I had the good results with the hospice case with the High CBD syringe, like 68% cbd wtf that means? The THC looked tasty but I never got around to buying it. Never realized they called it hash oil and I saw RSO. I don’t think its anything to do with Rick. I still have some topical that’s working. Almost eliminated the Gran Mals with a citrus spray CBD. Now its for bone and skin healing so the Shea Butter CBD and Hemp Oil works. No one at the rehab seems to mind or maybe not paying attention. Thanks anyway, I’ll keep looking but this civilized tax and regulate stuff ain’t in the Apothecaries or Head Shops I’ve envisioned. Still better than nuttin. I want to order whatever I want to order damn it! We’ve lost two more this month.
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While “Homegrown” doesn’t necessarily mean indoors. Prohibition in areas, restrictive regulations and over taxation is pushing the drive for indoor grows. With more pollution to tack onto the reefer madness. Until the prohibidiots remove it as a schedule#1 classification. These State bits of Incremental Retardation will be as good as it gets. Another attempt at reality. No complaints from Santa Cruz either. Still banned in more places in CA than not.
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Illinois pot will be EXPENSIVE.
I remember hitch hiking around the country in the 70s. They were selling some cheap small baggies of stuff called Bee Bees around Chicago. Probably ditch weed. One of the camp grounds we stayed had them hanging in low branches of trees. Anytime a pol gets involved its gonna be higher priced. They tax us two or three times and then give me a senior discount and point out sales. But mostly tax and over regulating while letting the idiots in paranoid counties ban dispensaries. Its a nice option to order online and pick it up in the fast lane. But I’m not losing the numbers of my grower friends and still sample some of their goods to keep them around if this state quasi-legal crap goes south.