I know people have already been talking about this in comments, but this is just so bizarre…
Colorado town finds THC in its water, warns residents not to drink or bathe in it
This Denver Post article may be the best so far on the subject as it shows both the hysteria…
Screening stations are being set up for worried residents, and water is being trucked in. The countyâ€™s public health department said the public should avoid the townâ€™s water for at least the next 48 hours and report any effects to the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center.
and the calm logic…
â€œIt would take more product than any of us could afford to contaminate a city water supply to the extent that people would suffer any effects,â€ Dr. John Fox, Lincoln Countyâ€™s health officer, said in a statement.
Peter Perrone, who owns Wheat Ridge cannabis testing facility Gobi Analytical, said cannabinoids such as THC or CBD â€œare in no way soluble in water.â€
â€œThere is zero possibility that thereâ€™s anything like THC in the Hugo water,â€ Perrone said.
And how do they know there’s THC in the water? 6 of 10 field tests came up positive. And we know how accurate those field tests are.
This is merely new newest form of Reefer Madness.
some people don’t need drugs to hallucinate or lie.
On a planet with modern day witch-stonings, crucifixions and lynchings, this is one of the more benevolent mobgasms to tickle the mob journalists.
I just happen to be an expert in the field of Terrorism and Water (Author of Securing Our Water Supply: Protecting a Vulnerable Resource” . The reaction to this is perfectly justifiable. THC is soluble in water (2.8 mg/L) at levels that are detectable by current tests (0.000050 mg/L). This means that to contaminate the water in a small system to detectable levels you would need way less that a gram of THC and yes these tests do have false positives so it may or may not actually be there. THC is not cost prohibitive and can be easily derived from even extremely low grade hemp via a simple extraction making it virtually free if you know what you are doing. While THC is relatively benign any time you have something in water that has no normal explanation for being there you are a fool if you don’t check for other potentially dangerous substances that may have been introduced at the same time. that being said if it is present it was probably just kids thinking they were being funny.
re: “and yes these tests do have false positives so it may or may not actually be there.”
When they said “field tests” that made me wonder also.
I can hear Sabet and other DEA darlings and hirelings woozling on about how pot ruins the national parks with illegal grows, and ruins our nation’s water supply with THC.
Still, I can’t help but be guessing that while government forks out lots of (our stolen) money for a battery of “field tests” dutifully scrutinizing the water supply in Colorado for hypothetical THC, the same officials, authorities and experts turn a blind eye toward fracking chemicals and other industrial pollutants that would be much more likely to be found, and be harmful as well.
From a PR point of view, it would be great (for government/corporations) to have some “water treatment” news that doesn’t involve toxic heavy metal contamination in the nation’s water supply, as is in the news now. Instead, some “news” about THC poisoning the well because of that evil marijuana legalization puts the official narrative right back where it should be: on those wicked marijuana legalizers, who poison the water.
Of course we may all rest easy: safe in the authoritative statements of officials and expert alike that fluoride was definitely never used in concentration camps and we’re being dosed with it for our own good; so I won’t go there.
Anyone remember the 1960s propaganda bugaboo of LSD in the nation’s water supply? Cue up this 1967 Dragnet Episode (LSD Story/Blueboy) to about the 7:30 mark, and feel the fear government and media intend for you to fear! Wooo!
IIRC according to the “History of the government doing shady shit to the public without their knowledge”, It was actually the muscle relaxer ‘Soma’ that they had planned to dose the public water supplies with = In case of civil unrest or possibly in case of a mass panic of unspecified cause.
I don’t know if they actually tried it out in some random city – some other things were tested this way… They don’t like to say what until 50 to 75+ years later if ever.
See also (similar fictional nightmare scenario in Firefly series film ‘Serenity’ or the wiki for it and specifically the Planet Miranda = where they dosed the air supply with [“chemical agent G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate, or simply “Pax”] = very, very creepy.
Were lucky the tests. that the CIA actually did in the Sixties didn’t get away from them similarly, well at least that we know of…
That’s all fine and dandy, but the story and the reaction of the authorities specifically regarding THC shows their ignorance of both THC and the (in)accuracy of field tests for drugs.
The sad moral of the story is not the funny ha-ha of pot-tainted water, but that the people who are in charge, who are supposed to be knowledgeable, are anything but.
Hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin and its combination with hydroxypropyl-methylcellulose increases aqueous solubility of delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol
Clueless Colorado Town Officials In A Dither Over Supposed THC In Water Supply
“I just happen to be an expert in the field of Terrorism and Water”
If THC is extracted using methods that “kids” would be able to perform, wouldn’t the rest of the 400+ components — including the 66+ other cannabinoids, like CBD — also be present?
And D. Kroll, do these water tests usually test specifically for THC?
This smacks of a govt psyop designed to slow down the popular movement and momentum of legalized cannabis.
Given all the other reefer madness disinformation has been exposed as blatant disinformation/propaganda/lies, the DEA and their friends (big-time dealers) are getting really worried they will lose their ‘cash cow.’
I wonder where all of the waste is going? Stalks, roots and leaves dumped into streams or perhaps even buried and run off. Soluble (of a substance) means ability to be dissolved, especially in water. but it seems likely thc could show up. I doubt if it is more than a trace so gettng high drinking it is a bit reefer mad. Bhang can be water or milk and get people high. I wonder how many people tried snorting $100 bills when they found traces of cocaine? My dispensary sells drinks, although I’ve never tried one, yet.
In the past water soluble usually reffered to shooting up THC with a syringe and that has never been a legitimate method of getting high.
Lincoln Co. Sheriff Tom Nestor had his brother as an employee. His brother broke into Licoln Co. Sheriff’s UNsecured evidence room and stole 2 guns and provided them to known felons – and got caught. I suspect the sheriff may be in deep
THCwater! Maybe looking (thankful?) for a distraction.
“anything necessary” covers a lot of shit and costs a lot of money.
The headlines stories such as this spawn;
Colorado Town’s Water May Be Tainted With Marijuana Chemical THC – NBCNews.com
In Colorado, marijuana’s psychoactive ingredient may have made it into the water supply – The Verge
Colorado town’s water tainted by marijuana chemical, authorities say – Fox News
High water mark: active marijuana ingredient found in US town well – Reuters
High water mark – MSN.com
LISTEN: Marijuana in the Water? – 92 3 WIL
Marijuana Chemical Taints Colorado Town’s Water – AP
And many more.
the bonus (such as it is) to that Will is that in the articles allowing comments I looked at yesterday when the story was breaking, the public wasn’t buying it.
Hundreds of tourists are making plans to go to the THC pools being developed through out Colorado and California since the screening stations reported its presence.
University of Saskatchewan researchers discovered cannabis may be the elixer of life. Prompting many seniors to check it out. Spas with the “miracle” water are doing a booming business. “After it was found out it just made sense to sell it said local spa towel boy Jiminy Kush.
The Pope has expressed his interest, mentioning Ezekiel 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.Claiming it may just be the Tree of Life.
Obama has announced an executive order to force Congress to soak a while… It has been discussed to include a pool at the Police Academies and Wall St retreats.
Canadian researchers led by Xia Zhang said the study’s results appearing in the ‘Journal of Clinical Investigation’ have actually given a fillip to the traditional and mythological view that associates the addictive weed in some ways with immortality.
In the article Beliefs about Aging and Longevity in Ancient China, Alain Corcos notes: “The sacred intoxicating drink, named haoma by the Iranians and Soma by the Aryans in India was believed to cure disease and to confer immortality. Hemp was an active ingredient of both drinks” (Corcos, 1981)
Well, everyone who has read about this particular black swan should learn their lesson; you just can’t fool a prohibitionist! Well, that is unless you dress up a fatherly, scientist looking guy in a lab coat and have him deliver the propaganda in a somber tone of authoritative gravitas. Then you can get them to fall for just about anything you can possibly imagine.
False positive rates in field testing kits are well understood to be so problematic that serious research finds no confidence at all in those test kits. They’re no better than a coin-flip as a diagnostic tool.
Exposure to air has been shown to test positive with these kits, ffs. It says a lot that this story came about as the result of inconsistent test kit results on humans leading to testing tap water as a control, which also produced inconsistent results.
THC, while not completely non-soluble, dilutes so poorly in water that a determined individual would surely succumb to water intoxication before managing to drink enough THC-tainted water to experience any noticeable effects of the drug at anywhere near the concentration level that might show up in a public water supply.
The cannabis aspect of this story is completely overblown (as usual), overshadowing the real story, and the only sane reason for concern:
As Dan Kroll pointed out upthread, in a situation where a public water supply has been compromised, the possiblity of other potentially dangerous substances that may have been introduced at the same time is a very serious concern.
Serious publications wishing to avoid “reefer madness” ridicule would do well to focus attention on this aspect and relegate the THC aspect to the side-issue that it is, which just happened to lead to the discovery of the serious issue worthy of concern. Law enforcement should likewise emphasize the seriousness of the compromised well in their communications with the public on the issue.
Of course this was B.S. … thanks for posting this, allan.
“Field tests” for marijuana are as reliable as K-9 alerts for marijuana.
Which is to say: completely unreliable. Unreliable in the sense of evidence, truth, or reality, I mean.
On the other hand, for police state and governmental career, power, and relieving-you-of-your-money purposes, K-9 alerts and “field tests” for cannabis are wonderful because they give Officer Friendly legal (but lying) CYA pretext for violating your rights, and generally treating people as slaves, serfs, or helots.
I think what the articles on the Hugo water supply “field tests” really indicate, is, that in addition to air, ordinary tap water will cause a “positive” reading with these tests, just as nothing at all will (in 80% of tests) cause a K-9 to “alert”.
I don’t expect the retraction to get much traction.
… “multiple preliminary tests of the water came back positive for THC”…
“the company, which he did not identify, had been getting inconsistent results and decided to test a vial of tap water, expecting it to be negative. Instead, the test came back positive, and the company called authorities.”
… “Lincoln County officials conducted 10 other field tests, using two different types of test kits, on the townâ€™s water and six came back positive.”…
“Saturday morningâ€™s update from the Lincoln County Sheriffâ€™s Office said the initial test kit results are now believed to have been false positives.”
“Commercial marijuana cultivation, product manufacturing, testing facilities and retail marijuana stores are banned in Hugo”
There never was THC in our water supply.” http://tinyurl.com/jbc5rkl
Are these the same test kits that will send people to jail for DUID? – probationers to jail for positives? Those kits are garbage and a liability.
Yeah, the thing is, best as I can gather from the article, the alert was called off immediately upon testing negative for THC using a more conclusive test. No mention of whether they tested for anything actually dangerous as a result of discovering the breached well, or if, as it sharply appears, the whole thing was a reefer madness panic that was all about the THC.
On the plus side, all the publicity caused by everyone’s freakout has served to inform the obviously ignorant (which obviously includes several local authorities) about the unreliability of drug field tests.
I did get quite a giggle out of the idea that they were going to ask the test kit manufacturer to explain the false positives and seem to expect some kind of meaningful answer. Ha – good luck with that!
Just fancy that:
“Leaked Emails Suggest DNC Was Conspiring Against Bernie Sanders.”
And, check out the rattle snake eyes on Wasserface at 0:44 on the video.
What comes around has finally gone around. As the old saying goes, “The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.” John Morgan, thou art avenged…as is every MMJ supporter in FL.
Recall what DWS did to Morgan’s MMJ initiative in FL a few years back? http://www.drugwarrant.com/2014/06/room-for-debate/
Debbie is getting her comeuppance. The Romans used to offer a failed conspirator against Caesar ‘the dagger’, and commit suicide, or face the ignominy of execution by beheading with the sword. Debbie’s about to face the political equivalent. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving (female dog) for conspiring against her suffering constituents.
“Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) called the leak of Democratic National Committee emails suggesting a bias against his presidential campaign â€œoutrageousâ€ and reiterated his call for DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) to resign.”
“As a result of the leak, Wasserman Schultz will not be speaking at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia next week. â€œSheâ€™s been quarantined,â€ one Democratic Party official told CNN. ”
It gets better. CNN reports that DWS took ‘the dagger’: she’s resigning as DNC Chair. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails/index.html
Now if she’d just bow out of politics altogether, that would be truly sweet revenge.
Somewhere in Florida a “suburb” is missing its idiot. Time to go home for good, Debbie.
There truly ain’t no justice: CNN reports that DWS is being taken on by Hillary as her (I cannot make this scheisse up) ‘honorary’ campaign manager. After doing Sanders and his supporters all kinds of dirty.
Exposed, incontrovertible, in-your-face corruption rewarded publicly. Business as usual.
“What’s so funny? Biased DNC chair Debbie Wasserman laughs on convention floor hours after resigning…”
Guess she already knew that Hillary would save her “honor.” This election gets scarier by the day.
Detailed List of Findings in Wikileaks DNC Document Dump
So now it seems it wasn’t wikileaks, it was Russia. With Trump (sarcastically) asking them to find the missing emails. At first this sounded like a diversion. But then why would wikileaks side with Trump? Now it seems Trump has several properties in Moscow and through out Russia. Russia Today has totally converted to bashing the DNC with nothing on Russia hacking the DNC. Several of RT journalists have left claiming Putin’s interference and manipulating stories. Watergate reflux. So again Trump trumps the DNC on lacking principles.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz did not get promoted and she’s not running Hillary’s campaign
Hillary did NOT Hire DWS
Wasserman Schultz served as a co-chair of Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign and Clinton said Sunday that the Floridian will serve as “honorary chair” of her campaign’s 50-state program and continue to serve as a surrogate for her campaign nationally and in Florida.
Being an honorary chair of a campaignâ€”a position that involves no responsibilities, no employees, no budget, and no dutiesâ€”is not a promotion from being chair of the DNC.
Tim Kaine is a Marijuana Pain: Hillaryâ€™s Prohibitionist VP Pick http://tinyurl.com/jofu4ad
â€œOne Out of Four US Senators Is a Marijuana Prohibitionist â€” Is Yours One of Them?â€ http://tinyurl.com/zd3sz2y
One of them is potentially our new VP.
I notice that nappy wearing “John” David Vitter is firmly opposed to the moral dangers of others enjoying cannabis. So glad he’s there keeping our kids safe, at least when he’s not fucking them.
People like Howard Marks had been doing this sort of drug safety testing for years, but this is progress in Britain:
“About 200 people use facility offered by The Loop charity, local police and council at Cambridgeshire festival aiming to promote safer drug use….”
“….. the partnership with Cambridgeshire police, local public health authorities and the festival organisers had been several years in the making. â€œThe police are increasingly pragmatic about drug-taking at festivals, and this is a case of them showing leadership and recognising that the priority should be health and wellbeing, not enforcement.â€
I’ll tell you what I think we’re dealing with here — an international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids. This kind of thing is the reason I personally drink only pure-grain alcohol and “Trump Ice”-brand bottled water.
very wise, Francis. i wonder if Trump urine has ever been analysed for purity or magical qualities. like his tax returns and the books of Trump University, i suspect we will never know.
+1 Dr. Strangelove
DNC chair won’t speak at Dem convention following Wikileaks fallout
Pressure mounts on Wasserman Schultz to resign
Of hemp and GOP ‘fans’
Wasserman Schultz resigning as party leader
DNC chairwoman resigns under fire, threatening disarray at Clintonâ€™s convention
The Word “Marijuana” Versus the Word “Cannabis”
I too wish ‘cannabis’ would be accepted by news organizations. To listen to Actionnewsteam plodding over those syllables in rote obedience…just as they gamely mouth ‘officer-involved shooting’ no matter how many ad-time seconds they lose in the process…
Do you mean like the Daily Mail in the UK?
If there were any terrorists here they are the city of Hugo officials who are using field test kits that only work 40% of the time to show correct results (according to the newspapers account).
I don’t see any newspapers trying to talk about any accountability here for wrongly scaring the hell out of Hugo’s residents.
Fracking Chems, Heavy Metals in the Water! Yawn.
THC! Stop bathing immediately!
You totally nailed that one, DdC. Manufactured hysteria driven by big business interests. Think about the shareholders, dammit!
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Now isn’t that most ironical thing you’ve heard since Beau Biden died of glioblastoma multiforme after stone walling medicinal cannabis patient protection under Delaware law?
It is the left who have demonized marijuana. If you smoke dope you are a “communist” who want to restrict the rights and freedoms of others. 60’s hippies loved dope and hated war. Yet they hated war against those who wanted to restrict freedom the most: totalitarian commies.
The irony is killing me. This world is fucked beyond repair. Gary Johnson has 0% chance, sadly. You are stuck with Hitlery and Drumpf. Never trusted Sanders anyway, Jill Stein is a regressive cunt.
Oh whine about the USA, but ya gotta love the free speech here eh? Tell me Yee, how does a teenager get so full of hate? Or a head so full of shit you almost sound like an old GOPer. Neocons run the wars, domestic or foreign. For profits dude, its all about profits. When Cannabis makes more than prohibition, it will be legal. As it is. Profits over people kid. Political parties are for those who need to feel wanted by someone. Not enough hugs. As one of our most freedom loving white founding slave owners stated.
Vietnam was a 100 year old civil war and the only reason for US involvement was profits selling war toys. Tons of bombs, boats and planes to sell. It lasted as long as it did because Nixon wanted to win the election, killing thousands more in the process. Its pretty boring listening to people complain about democrats being too republican so they’ll vote Green. Oh ya that’ll fix them. Actually Gary Johnson has a better chance this year than previously. Maybe not to win but a good chance of actually entering the next race if he can get 15% and fed funding and debate time. Its the base I vote for. Teabog rush limbites is the other white meat.
MARIJUANA REVOLUTION by John Sinclair
Thank God for Hippies
This is the prohibitionists motto.
I think its also the drug reform “professionals” too.
As kNewt says, Most people in the country “feel” as if the murder rate is high and its dangerous and we need protection. The facts say the murder rates have dropped the past 20 years nationally. Except for a few pockets in certain areas of the country. Which are the areas amplified by the media so the overall TV gawkers “feel: the way they do.
Same with drugs, especially cannabis. The facts are just liberal ways to get what they want. Science is only an opinion and opinion is different with everyone. Tell that to gravity or the boiling point of water at sea level kNewt. Ganja is or it isn’t. Past research says it is, patients relieving symptoms say it is. Prohibitionists feel its too dangerous for the public to use. They feel it would be a confusing message to let farmers grow hemp since it looks like Ganja. The feelings of the people are changing due to the internet. So the priorities are changing. While reformers compromise on reality, internet censorship bills have been continually looming. Working their way to slow the process of informing people with facts and let the prohibitionists feelings rule another century. Which is it the religionist’s follow?
if i had opposable thumbs i would stick both up for your post and the couch in general.
What happened to your thumbs? Sawmill accident?
wore them down to nubs while hitchhiking.
File under, “So Ironic it’s Tragic”;
Publix Heiress Donates $800,000 to Fight Medical Marijuana Legalization in Florida
Carol Jenkins Barnett, age 59, has been diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s disease.
Cannabis fights ALZ. Are they taking advantage of the mentally ill?
Using Pot To Save Brains!
I don’t have any THC infused water but I would like to raise my seltzer bottle to esteemed party member comrade Bernie Sanders for his tireless efforts on behalf of the 99% the last 30+ years he has worked in government.
I hope he is enjoying his briefcase of Clinton Ca$h and his newfound position as the newest trustee of the Clinton Crime Family Foundation.
A salute to the People’s Kommissar Bernie Sanders.
Sounds like you need some thc infused something Mr Ass. Am I to understand prohibitches have no argument so they insult? Is that right Mr. Ass? Is that all you got? Mr. Ass has no ass to back up its words. Trolls, how weak. Pity the fools. Oh btw, Bernie isn’t running. Keep up ass.
witnessing the trump desroy himself with nothing but his tongue is going to be fun. just like certain trolls he can’t stop talking nonsense.