Open Thread

I’m taking a couple days off with a friend in Chicago, and then I’ll be a judge for the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival this week.

bullet image The Drug War Has Now Spread to Africa. Here’s Why – a good piece by Ryan Grim. The U.S.’s DEA is now going to Africa to go after Latin American drug traffickers who are transporting drugs to Europe, with the full knowledge that anything they do will only move the route, not stop it.

Sounds like an agency that’s looking to justify its own existence.

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96 Responses to Open Thread

  1. Common Science says:

    Damn underground groupies! Just a bunch of malicious roustabouts on the dole, while the rest of us work so they can wallow in their redundancy.

    • claygooding says:

      More like piranha,,when they smell blood in the water,,malignant growths(bureaucrats)leap into action to fill any void where money is available.

  2. Duncan20903 says:


    Shhh, don’t anyone mention the thought of eliminating physical currency. I guess it’s a good thing that so many in power so covet their tax evaded wealth.

    Seriously, do you think we’d really have access to “disposable” cell phones if so many in power didn’t need a convenient way to call their mistresses? Go back to pay phones? Surely you jest.

  3. Duncan20903 says:

    Lately I am a very sad man, and that which is making me sad makes me sadder still.
    Divided we fall

  4. Duncan20903 says:


    James Holmes Smoked Marijuana, Took Vicodin — Reports
    By Dennis Romero Mon., Jul. 23 2012

    blah, blah, blah

    • Maria says:

      Yeah… I hear he also ate meat, drank milk, and liked beer.
      blah, blah, blah indeed.

      • Maria says:

        I actually clicked over to read that rabbit scat of a blog post.

        “A report of his alleged weed smoking was attributed to the New York Post, but we couldn’t find the story nowhere online. TMZ points to a piece that doesn’t mention such toking […]”

        This is some seriously gleaming journalism worth of a Peabody! But wait, there’s more! He doesn’t stop there!

        “If true it could be bad news for medical cannabis advocates.”

        • claygooding says:

          I expect that the next article will be that he heard about marijuana at a DARE class and that caused his action.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          After reading Mr. Romero’s journalistic efforts, please remember to peruse the sexual deviants for hire through his employer’s classified ads on the (ahem) Backpage. If you don’t see your particular fetish/deviance/perversion listed it’s likely that the specialist for that kink is on vacation, just check back next week. Remember, always card your hookers. Sometimes the underaged sneak through for a while and we wouldn’t want to inadvertently support kiddie diddling, now would we?

        • Peter says:

          seems like the default story for ‘journalists’ whenever there is an outrage (face eaters, political assassins, batman fantasists) is to look for the mj link, and if you don’t find one, just make it up like romero

          don’t forget this quote from him in 2010:
          “Surprise surprise. Latinos are getting behind the California ballot initiative to legalize pot. You mean the same folks who gave the world Cheech (not Chong), Acapulco gold and the very word marijuana? Orale!”

  5. darkcycle says:

    Livestream of the Oakland Obama Medical Cannabis protest here, now:

  6. darkcycle says:

    Thanks to Danny Danko who linked this on FB.

  7. Servetus says:

    Africa. Tse-tse flies. Malaria infected anopheles mosquitos. Dengue. Yellow fever. Crocodiles. The DEA. Could it get any worse? Haven’t the Africans suffered enough?

    Apparently not. Add to the mix a few Mexico style border wars, impervious systemic corruption, and an overwhelming jail population, and you have America’s gift to the world, a gift that keeps on giving, like some incurable form of clap.

  8. darkcycle says:

    Yeah…just great. I’m on my way to Ethiopia soon. (and I mean soon)

  9. Wake Up Obama: Medical Marijuana Patients Are Voters

  10. kaptinemo says:

    The conceit of Empire usually contains the idea of permanence. That said empire can keep going on and on, blissfully untouched by the concerns of lesser nations…until the bill comes due.

    This business of extending the DEA into Afghanistan should have been a warning. Now there are DEA ‘offices’ in countries all around the world…which means that, since DEA is CIA’s ‘bitch’, Langley now as offices in places it was formerly abjured from. Again, that is, until the bill comes due. And it almost is.

    The Federal Reserve is making noises about another ‘Quantitative Easing’, which means the printing presses go crazy printing up more Monopoly \Money to ‘pay’ for government operations. That means the value of your savings will approach zero due to inflation of the money supply. And that means that Uncle Sam is flat busted broke.

    We are critically overextended fiscally and militarily across this planet, engaging in nonsense like the DEA being Captainnnnnn Weedwhackerrrrrrrrr! all over the world, acting as if this can go on forever, while the fiscal cliff approaches. We really can’t afford this DrugWar idiocy anymore!

    • Those are my sentiments too kaptin. You are going to get me on a GJ rant.

      These homegrown idiots that want to paint the drug war as a fight to keep dirty hippie potheads in treatment are unable to see the forest for the trees. Expanding DEA influence internationally is like a plague spreading.

      We are not spreading truth,justice, and the American way.

    • No doubt about the money. The drug war has bankrupt America. Like fools we tacitly condone it, like an addict our Gov continues it.

      Its not potheads that needs rehab -its our Government.

    • Matthew Meyer says:

      DEA’s in Africa, but Homeland Security is now doing pot busts in Humboldt:


  11. ezrydn says:

    Kap is right about the money situation. You hear how bad the Euro is? The US Dollar is lying right beside it. Under it, actually. And what put it there? Obama’s wasteful spending. Hopefully, we’ll still have a US Dollar to trade in November.

    I watch the USD’s purchase power rise and fall all day. I guess you’d say I bet on it. Yet, what I’m seeing ain’t good, MaGee. We’re to the point today where we’re clinging to the JPY for support. We’re being whupped!

    • Duncan20903 says:


      At 84 the DXY isn’t even as weak as it was when Jimmy Carter was POTUS. Gosh, a year ago it was 10 points lower and that chart sure looks like an uptrend to me.

      Don’t let your bias influence your trading decisions. Mr. Market is going to do what Mr. Market wants, and you can be wrong a long time before you’re right. Speaking of JPY, why is it that you think that the US can’t accomplish the same thing that the Japanese did after their crash in the 1990s? Hell, we even have a road map thanks to the Japanese and we didn’t come anywhere close to their level of financial devastation.

    • darkcycle says:

      EZ, wasn’t it BUSH’s wasteful spending (and tax cuts) that got us here? IIRC, we had a budget surplus going into Shrubbie, and a complete banking collapse on his exit….

      • Jeff Trigg says:

        darkcycle, honestly its FDR’s silly policies that mostly got us here. Every President since then has increased the debt and money printing problem, including Clinton’s on-paper-only “surplus”. We often don’t see the results of government policies for ten or twenty or more years after they are implemented. Case in point, the housing/banking collapse had roots in Reagan and Clinton made it worse. We can’t blame Obama for past spending, but we sure can blame him for ignoring reality and increasing spending, printing money, and massively adding to our debt right now. Banks haven’t collapsed yet, btw, just the politically connected too big to fail banks. That collapse is still coming, probably after the Euro fails in the near future and the Dollar takes a huge dive.

        Before FDR, the US was the biggest loaner of money in the world. We lent money to much of the world and helped them develop closer to our standard of living. Now, the US is the biggest debtor in the world, and most of the world is also in debt. That bubble is going to pop in a big way, probably in our lifetime, and may even be unavoidable at this point. We haven’t seen progress in our American economy for three decades now, and we have placed a massive burden on our future generations to pay for luxuries today. We are obviously headed in the wrong direction with almost every government in the US going in to debt rather than paying for things they can afford when they have the money.

        Romney and Obama are both ignoring the reality of our impending economic doom. Spending everywhere must be cut and debts must be paid down immediately if we want our children to have any kind of future beyond 70% tax rates with no hope for the American dream.

        • darkcycle says:

          Um, I beg to differ, the stage was set under Reagan and Clinton (Glass Steigal was the biggest piece of setwork) but the reduction in the tax rates under Bush and the unfunded wars turned a disaster pending long term into one unavoidable in the near term. When you’ve cut the artery in the arm, there’s time to staunch the bleeding. Not when you’ve opened the Carotid. More over, Bush did that intentionally.

        • Jeff Trigg says:

          You beg to differ about what? Obama has no blame and the Bush tax cuts are to blame? The Bush tax cuts may be a Democrat talking point now, but they are only a small blip of the mountain of debt we are in. Democrats voted lock step for the unfunded wars, so we can’t blame Bush alone for that. Many Democrats voted for the tax cuts, and still support them anyway. Obama supported the Bush tax cuts at that time, even though he’s flip flopped now. Fannie and Freddie were just as much to blame as Glass Steagal on the housing/big bank collapse, both spurred on by Clinton/Gingrich. The blame is obviously bi-partisan, even for everything Bush did. Besides, it is impossible to tax our way out of debt at this point. Impossible. Spending must be cut drastically or our kids will all pay. I don’t know what you differ about as I didn’t defend Bush and just pointed out that you can’t pin this all or even mostly on him. Bush shares a sliver of the blame, but it wasn’t him alone that got us here by any stretch of the imagination.

        • darkcycle says:

          Don’t put words in my mouth Jeff. Respond to what I said or don’t waste my time.

        • darkcycle says:

          ….sorry for the testy response, Jeff. Havin’ a bad day.

        • Jeff Trigg says:

          We’re on the couch together, so I’ll pass a snack or other goodie. Enjoy, and we’ll be fine.

  12. Duncan20903 says:

    Well it looks like Hillary in a landslide! linky Gosh, who the heck needs the Onion when we have reality?

    • claygooding says:

      And we sure don’t want her,,she already told us there was just too much money in marijuana to ever legalize it,,which means she is already bought and paid for by the people making money from it while it remains illegal.

      • Peter says:

        i often wonder if she was ignorant or ironic on that. if she meant it literally she must have caused palpitations for her corporate owners and paymasters

  13. claygooding says:

    Cannabinoids, like those found in marijuana, occur naturally in human breast milk

    Learn more:

    (NaturalNews) Woven into the fabric of the human body is an intricate system of proteins known as cannabinoid receptors that are specifically designed to process cannabinoids such as tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), one of the primary active components of marijuana. And it turns out, based on the findings of several major scientific studies, that human breast milk naturally contains many of the same cannabinoids found in marijuana, which are actually extremely vital for proper human development.

    The fact that marijuana and our bodies are “wired” for each other is really making a dent in researchers and scientists available for propaganda studies,,,this is part of what drives the price of prohibition up.

    • thelbert says:

      so breast cancer would flourish in the absence of cannabinoids in the breasts of women that are not breastfeeding 8 to 10 children during their lifetime?

  14. Duncan20903 says:

    Did some evil presence recently channel the ghost of William Randolph Hearst?
    Police Find Marijuana And Half Eaten Cat

    • Jose says:

      Ah, I see what we have here… Cannabis is now linked to dog on cat violence. If re-legalized, pets everywhere will be at risk! It must also be what compels dogs to pick at a carcass, definitely couldn’t be hunger, curiosity, boredom or instinct. It’s the new prohib battle cry “What about the pets!”.

      Maybe they can find a link between the strain found at the “Half Eaten Cat” grow bust to the “Miami Face Eater” stash. Hearst would be so proud!

      • darkcycle says:

        Clearly by choosing that headline, they meant to imply that it was the growers who had eaten the half a cat. They could have said “Animal neglect found at marijuana grow”. Instead they used “Marijuana grow” and “half eaten cat” in the same headline with no qualifiers or additional information. You have to get into the body of the piece before they mention the starving dogs.
        I knew it was garbage. There’s just not that much meat on a cat. No stoner with the munchies would be satisfied with a HALF a dead cat.

        • Jose says:

          They left out the part when one SWAT says to another “You gonna finish that?”

          The dogs should feel lucky they made it to animal control.

        • Duncan20903 says:


          Don’t forget the guy who supposedly decided to eat his neighbor’s pet dog after smoking synthetic cannabis recently.
          Back when I traded the stock market one of the most reliable money makers was trading a dead cat bounce. I imagine that’s a thing of the past nowadays since back in that day they used to make people wait for the morning bell to trade.

          A dead cat bounce is a the stock of a formerly favored company which had announced bad news after the previous close. Almost uniformly the stocks would open at a low level sometimes as much as 1/3 or even 1/2 the previous day’s close and immediately start rising for approximately the first 1/2 hour of trading. the phenomenon got its name because if you take a dead cat and throw it out of a high enough window it’s going to hit the ground and immediately bounce up when it hits the ground.

        • darkcycle says:

          ‘sides, they’re like potato chips, once you start, it’s hard to stop.

        • allan says:

          Dead Cat Soap… there’s a dead cat in every bar!

        • Windy says:

          Coyotes eat cats, too, my wonderful, affectionate, year old, orange, spayed and vaccinated female cat disappeared the day coyotes were active and loudly proclaiming their presence in my neighborhood, a month ago. I’m still crying over that loss, she came to us, we did not go out looking for another cat, her life with us should have been long, like my other cat who is 15.

          Feral or starving dogs would definitely eat one, too, just like beloved dogs and cats will eat their owner if the owner dies in the home, unnoticed so that no one comes around to rescue the animals from starvation. Meat is meat to a carnivore, no matter the source.

    • primus says:

      I like cats, but I can’t eat a whole one.

      • claygooding says:

        Have the book,,”101 uses for a dead cat”,,everything from a sun dried hot pad to a frisbee,,great book,,also seen bumper stickers w/ “Missing your cat? Check my tires!” and “Cat,,the other white meat” and last but not least,,,during the depression,in order to sell rabbits you had to leave one foot attached so you couldn’t sell people cats and call them rabbits,,where the lucky rabbits foot came from.

  15. kaptinemo says:

    Jeez, guys! I’m tryin’ to eat my dinner! (Eyes streaming tears, gut hurts from laughing) LOL!

  16. claygooding says:

    Mexican official: CIA ‘manages’ drug trade

    “”Juarez, Mexico – The US Central Intelligence Agency and other international security forces “don’t fight drug traffickers”, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico has told Al Jazeera, instead “they try to manage the drug trade”.

    Allegations about official complicity in the drug business are nothing new when they come from activists, professors, campaigners or even former officials. However, an official spokesman for the authorities in one of Mexico’s most violent states – one which directly borders Texas – going on the record with such accusations is unique.”” “snipped”

    The house of cards is shaking more every day,,

    Worth Repeating: Big Pharma Takeover Of Med Marijuana In 2013

    I saw Toke of the Town’s article that Sativex and G&W Pharmaceuticals would be taking over the mmj business in early 2013 with a total blitz on all states with mmj laws and dispensaries.

    I can’t see that happening if any of the states legalization bill passes. They will be too worried about reversing the new threat,,me thinks.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      Oh come on, what is this malarkey about 6630507 being the “only” medical marijuana patent ever granted? A search of the USPTO database for the keyword: cannabinoid a moment ago returned 6,709 items.

      I’ve been doing this search periodically since December 2010. On my first search there were 4,917 items returned. In 19 months that’s as many as 1,792 newly granted patents or an average of 94.316 per month.

      BTW, the existence of a patent doesn’t mean that the thing patented actually works, so it’s proof of nothing. A patent is nothing more than an official time stamp. The only item that requires that the thing patented works as advertised are perpetual motion devices. But that rule was adopted out of embarrassment for issuing patents on a piece of technology which is completely incapable of working as advertised.

      66330507 has been for sale since 2003, and on sweetheart terms given patents purchased which are developed in the Orphan Drug Program. The fact that 6630507 hasn’t been purchased despite being for sale for almost a decade is evidence supporting the assertion that it’s almost certainly worthless as a commercial product.

    • kaptinemo says:

      ” saw Toke of the Town’s article that Sativex and G&W Pharmaceuticals would be taking over the mmj business in early 2013 with a total blitz on all states with mmj laws and dispensaries.

      I can’t see that happening if any of the states legalization bill passes. They will be too worried about reversing the new threat,,me thinks.”

      GW Pharma with Barthwell in its’ stable is using her contacts within the Fed bureaucracy to smooth he way for Sativex by crushing the natural opposition. Like I said they would. If anyone doubts this, they should ask Phillipe Lucas of the Vancouver Island Compassion Society about his early experiences with GWP’s threats to sue him and his organization over them making home-made cannabis tinctures.

      Big Pharma captured the FDA long ago, and now it’s after the Fed LE enforcement apparatus. The Feds are acting as classic Mob ‘muscle’ courtesy of all the back-channel contacts the ‘anti-drug’ bureaucrats maintain with Fed LE and the larger State police organs. That gives an idea of how corrupt the entire government is, that it is acting as a corp-rat prostitute for them.

      The race is on: if they don’t get their quiet little conspiracy nailed down tight in time, they’ll lose out to a rapidly growing demand in this country for legal cannabis that is inexpensive. And that means, at the very core, re-lagalization. Big Pharma wants the whole enchilada, and to do that it has to murder the existing MMJ paradigm, and Uncle Sam is helping them big-time.

  17. ezrydn says:


    I know nothing about market history. I only started learning Forex 6 months ago. However, It works for me and I’m having a ball. My wins outnumber my losses. Stocks I stay away from. Just started trading Commodities, Gold, and won a $2123 trade. Made my own template and have a good routine down pat. Like everything else, I approach Forex as a military engagement. It works!

    • Jeff Trigg says:

      How many Democrats on the LA City Council? 13 of 15, with one Decline to State and one Republican. Democrat supporters are idiots.

  18. Jeff Trigg says:

    Barack Obama’s Illinois Democrats expand the Police State for their Drug War.

    Drug War bill cuts judges from wiretap process

    Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn sparked frustration among civil rights advocates by signing a new police wiretap law Tuesday.

    Illinois police currently need a court order to secretly record conversations of drug criminals, but under the new law that goes into effect Jan. 1, a state’s attorney could give that go ahead.

    Quinn said the change will allow faster arrests.

    I noticed this doesn’t apply to political corruption or the dozen plus Democrats Obama has endorsed (including Blagojevich) who have been caught being corrupt. Obama was a horrible track record of endorsing political crooks in Illinois. Now look what his Illinois buddies are doing in the name of the drug war. Forget the judge, find a corrupt Democrat state’s attorney to approve the wire tap. In Chicago, this will be used to target people who don’t tow the Democrat party line. Its sick.

  19. Fall Presidential Debate Schedule Set

    I don’t like the looks. The picture only shows 2 chairs.

  20. Duncan20903 says:

    Is medical marijuana good medicine?
    Many claims about pot’s beneficial effects just don’t hold up.
    By David Sack
    July 26, 2012

    Dr. David Sack is a psychiatrist and addiction specialist. He is chief executive of Promises Treatment Centers and Elements Behavioral Health in Southern California.

    I think that a public, moderated debate on this issue between Professor David Nutt and Dr. Sack is indicated. This needs to happen ASAP.

  21. mr Ikesheeny says:

    So I guess that they won’t fire Michele Leonhard.

  22. primus says:

    When Michelle Leonhart was being grilled, the questioner might have made his point better if he had asked; “Are you telling me that heroin is no worse than marijuana?” instead of asking whether pot is as bad as heroin.

  23. Servetus says:

    Michele Leonhart is the director of the DEA because she is a willing, sacrificial lamb destined for the bloody alter of public opinion.

    Any government that survives the escalating drug revolution will ultimately reject Ms. Leonhart as one of its own. The United States of America needs a scapegoat for its drug war; it needs hundreds of scapegoats, if only to survive charges before international courts that charge it with multiple crimes against humanity.

    Yes, better Michele Leonhart than the feds, the corporations, or the religions. No doubt she seriously underestimates the total depths of depravity the three estates will go to avert the threat of an hysterically angry public.

    Once the government dumps on its dupes, the dupes dump on their subordinates, the subordinates retaliate, and that’s when the fun begins. Definitely no fun for Michele. From then on, for her caste of bureaucrat, it’s a race to the bottom.

    The patsies will reveal everything their bosses have been up to since the beginning of the drug war. They will do so to avert criminal charges being leveled against themselves, or to make money as whistleblowers, or exposé writers, or because they actually possess a conscience. Suddenly, any FOIA request will become much easier to identify and request, because underground, patriotic investigators will already have acquired smuggled copies of incriminating documents.

    It’s a survival trip now. Prohibitionists need to plan their departures from their crime scene carefully and creatively. The party is over.

    • Peter says:

      obviously melinda hag didnt get the memo to lie low

    • kaptinemo says:

      I’ve long held that what we need after drug prohibition ends is a version of the Church Committee. One with teeth. One that has the power to make changes that will forever pre-empt Gub’mint from engaging in drug prohibition and its’ attendant horrors ever again.

      For, given half a chance, it will try. Recall that Fed drug prohibition began before alcohol Prohibition did. The Gub’mint didn’t learn the lesson from banning the other drugs, so it blithely, stupidly thought it could do the same with booze.

      Sadly, it has yet to learn the lesson most children do: don’t play with fire. Since it’s always other people who get burned, the Feds keep starting fires. Until they, themselves, get scorched, they’ll keep being social arsonists, setting fire to the social contract which further erodes the Fed’s legitimacy to rule.

      They keep forgetting that every hobnailed jackboot applied to a cannabist’s throat is also being applied to a voter’s wallet. A voter who might have been apathetic towards the political process before, but became an instant activist the moment the hobnails drew blood. An activist intent upon, amongst other things, reducing police budgets.

      When the voters start to remind them of that, then you’ll see that modern day Church Committee form…and a lot of former DrugWarriors might find emigration to some place that has no extradition treaties with the US might be in order, to escape what may be resulting from that Committee.

      • Servetus says:

        Senator Frank Church always complained that no one cared about the revelations his committee made regarding U.S. espionage practices. It was all about the Cold War then, godless commies, the ‘other’. The drug war is different. American citizens will care this time, because the drug war is something that directly affects them, their friends and family members.

        A drug problem exists today because prohibitionists were never seriously marginalized or removed from society upon the repeal of alcohol prohibition in 1933. Lacking a true sense of failure, ambitious bureaucrats such as Harry Anslinger fomented new justifications (drug wars) to preserve their bureau’s existence. Anslinger even imitated the Nazi’s anti-drug agenda, using drugs, NSDAP-style propaganda and Gestapo tactics to target specific racial, cultural and political groups, and to eliminate the concept of the free individual.

        Prohibition is a situation analogous to that of the Germans at the end of World War I whose leaders sued for peace and who never experienced an armed, enemy invasion of their homeland. The result was a lot of left-behind, resentful people who arrogantly believed Germany could have won the war if weak leadership had not interceded. So they started World War II.

        During the second World War, the Allies made certain the Germans knew they were defeated. The English, Russians and Americans flattened the country, even going so far as to fire-bomb non-military targets like Dresden. No country was ever beaten as badly as Germany. Occupying Russians and French looted everything. German leaders were executed by hanging, or sometimes just taken into a back alley and summarily shot. Tracking and prosecuting Nazi war criminals continues more than 60-years later.

        The legalization and regulation of all drugs will only spell the beginning of the end for prohibition. A scorched earth policy must be applied to prohibitionism if we are to make it go away for good.

    • Windy says:

      Karma’s a bitch, and Leonhart will soon know that, personally.

  24. Duncan20903 says:


    Our pal Kev-Kev got another piece of regurgitated nonsense published over at HuffPo.

    Medical Marijuana: Buyers Remorse in California Reaches New Heights

    Comments are closed for this entry

    • kaptinemo says:

      How they can put him on and not add comments is beyond me. The man’s a lightening rod. Every time he opens his mouth he’s begging to be struck…and there’s millions of us with the lightning in our hands, just waiting. HuffPo is getting timid…

    • Duncan20903 says:


      It’s his blog, I’m sure all of their bloggers can turn comments on, off, or moderated. Excluding honesty, intelligence or the frequency of posting from consideration his screeds are no different from Pete’s except that “Dr” Sabet uses a 3rd party host.

      The only reason I noted that comments were turned off was because I find reading provocative articles only to find no comments column highly annoying. I think its reasonable to expect that there never will be an open comments column under one of his articles.

      • darkcycle says:

        I believe you’re probably right on that one. But I’ve also noticed that is happening more and more…many Cannabis pieces are w/o comments now at FDL.
        Myself, I tend to think those instances of passive censorship (because that’s what it is) are often specifically to shut US and those like us down. We do seem to take over the topic and once we’re in there the comments are driven by us. We dominate the discussion and often leave the arguments of the authors in a well deserved shambles.

      • Kevin A. Sabet Ph.D. can’t handle the heat. Good example of his motives- its all a one way street. I think its called indoctrination. Obviously likes talking to himself.

  25. allan says:

    Kev-Kev can’t stand the heat, it’s far easier for him being the pivot man in the Prohibitionist circle jerk than it is to have to put up with our eviscerating his prattle…

    Meanwhile in the real world, a quote I love from VP candidate Jim Gray speaking in Oakland the other day:

    “the hempire strikes back”

  26. darkcycle says:

    Jane herself weighs in on the politics of pot and presidential candidates at Fire Dog Lake:
    Again, No Comments.

  27. Peter says:

    Excellent article at Alternet about the way the war on drugs has been used by immigration authorities to deport people without any legal redress, under the guise of the so called secure communities mandate:

    “The construction of the “criminal” as the identity of the outcast in the United States dates back to the beginning of the drug war in the 1980s. After the civil rights movement, explicit exclusion of people based on race and ethnicity was no longer tolerated. Instead, the United States rewrote criminal laws to create, and then prosecute, the new outsiders. Former misdemeanors for drug offenses became felonies. Mandatory minimum sentencing laws doubled and tripled prison stays. “Three-strike” laws sent thousands and thousands of cornerboys—the least dangerous or important people in the drug trade—to prison for life.

    All along, the new laws and their racially targeted enforcement was a thinly veiled and highly successful attempt to criminal African Americans and Latinos.

    “The whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to,” explained H.R. Haldeman, President Nixon’s chief of staff.

    Now, with the rise of Secure Communities, the punishment for having been constructed as a criminal is not only incarceration in the world’s largest prison system—it is exile.

    “Unjust drug policies are now a major factor in deportation,” said Mizue Aizeki, an activist and photographer who has spent years fighting Secure Communities in New York City. “How is it that we’ve gotten to this point where you get convicted and you have this punishment of exile that you have no way to fight?” She sighs. “Obama identified something that’s politically palatable but is really off the wall oppressive.”

    • Common Science says:

      …And it’s worth noting an admission from a contemporary of H.R. Haldeman’s who, conversely, had no problem being forthright about the Nixon Administration’s motives behind the drug war:

      “Look, we understood we couldn’t make it illegal to be young or poor or black in the United States, but we could criminalize their common pleasure. We understood that drugs were not the health problem we were making them out to be, but it was such a perfect issue for the Nixon White House that we couldn’t resist it.”

      – John Ehrlichman, (Richard Nixon aide) in an 1995 interview with Dan Baum, author of Smoke and Mirrors.

  28. allan says:

    gosh… I mean gee Wally… could we really become the elephant in the living room? Can we free others to see the Emperor truly wears no clothes?

    Damitol®! We need to kick us some Prohib butt… and as far back as I ‘member they’ve avoided comments like the plague. None of the prohib sites are open for viewable public feedback so this is just in keeping with their tendencies. And tendencies like this NEED to be pointed out – publicly.

    of course no nat’l politician will ever again make John Kerry’s mistake of opening a whole public access bulletin board. Another DPR wwweb domination never mentioned… manned of course, by many of Pete’s Couchites. hmmm… vocabulary building again:

    couchite, couchism, couchology, couchologist, couched (as in “you’ve just been couched”), couchless (one to be pitied), couchification (the process of becoming “one with the couch”, a very zen thing)(or very stoned…), couchness (as in “he/she has a definite couchness”)

  29. allan says:

    At The Nation: WikiLeaks and the War on Drugs

    Beyond the undiplomatic opinions, however, the WikiLeaks cables revealed the astonishing degree to which the United States exercised its power and influence at the highest levels of the Mexican government. In some cases it appears that an essential part of the decision-making process on matters of internal security is actually designed not in Mexico City but in Washington. For Mexicans, the cables have reinforced once again that famous adage “Pobre Mexico: tan lejos de Dios, y tan cerca de los Estados Unidos.” Poor Mexico: so far from God and so close to the United States.

  30. darkcycle says:

    Pete, I hope you are having a grand time in Chicago. I don’t mean to be a pest, but we need a new thread…and you’re out of toilet paper. We’re up to “Abernathy” in the Normal White Pages. Duncan left the peanut butter alone, since he found the unlabled cans of Foie Gras in your pantry,(Kap’n took the labels off your cans of cat food, and somebody left a can open with a bunch of crackers on a plate. When that was gone, we showed him your “stash”) …and your cat is really hungry. Hope to see you soon.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      Didn’t the wiggle dude eat half of the cat?

      • Jose says:

        I think that is why wiggle has been eating the Tang dry out of the can and made off with the Nutella. I just hope Pete makes it back with the tv remote.

    • kaptinemo says:

      (Indignant) I did not! I only ate the leftover Chinese stuff!

      At least…I think it was Chinese…

  31. Running the “Drug War”: Mexican Official Fingers CIA

    Kevin is even in it to stick up for the CIA!
    We are back up to the “C”‘s now. Right?

  32. Tim M. says:

    In case you haven’t seen this, the latest from Canada.

    Now, a plan for the next five years of anti-drug programs, again worth more than half a billion dollars, has been drafted. Despite Harper’s early emphasis on balance, though, the planning and priorities report tabled with the federal Treasury Board for the next five years reveals deep cuts in Health Canada’s budget for drug treatment—but hefty increases in budgets for drug enforcement by police and prosecutors.

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