Up is down

Sometimes I find myself speechless at the bizarre lengths some can go in the stupidity that they attempt to disseminate.

The latest is from some site called Full Disclosure, which has a press release and video story called “The Dark Side of Legalizing Marijuana

What caught my attention is this reference in their blurb to Los Angeles Sherriff’s Sgt. Richard Valdemar:

Valdemar predicts that eventual legalization of marijuana will corrupt California worse than what happened in Chicago in the days of Al Capone and prohibition.


My head hurts.

So… he’s saying that ending marijuana prohibition will be like the problems of having alcohol prohibition? Surely, they must have gotten that wrong.

Well, they did. Kind of.

It appears that Sgt. Voldemort Valdemar is actually saying that legalizing marijuana will be like the rise of Al Capone after the repeal of alcohol prohibition.

Valdemar in the video, actually claims that ending alcohol prohibition didn’t hurt Capone at all, and that ending marijuana prohibition will just mean a bigger industry for the cartels to control.

Now the lady doing the interview is such a ditz that I wouldn’t be surprised that she’d believe such nonsense. But anyone with brain cells?

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22 Responses to Up is down

  1. Dante says:

    “Now the lady doing the interview is such a ditz that I wouldn’t be surprised that she’d believe such nonsense. But anyone with brain cells?”

    Pete, please don’t take this the wrong way.

    Nobody with brain cells is reading that stuff, except you. Their readers (other than you) are ill-equipped to spot the obvious propaganda.

  2. Peter says:

    It’s a trip alright…. from the retired sheriff with his giant stars and stripes tie to the pantomime little old lady with her explanatory cut-aways to explain it to the kids…. interesting results on the quiz too…. most answered that the cartels were “more dangerous” than Al Capone (although a follow up question should have been “who was Al Capone?”), as the program makers no doubt wished, but the question “should marijuana be legalized?” received an 83% YES, which must have upset things….
    and this is the standard of debate on this subject…..

  3. kant says:

    Al Capone’s power grew…while he was in prison…on Alcatraz? Really?

    • Swooper420 says:

      Yeah, while his brain was being eaten away by syphilis….got an early release from prison and died in his home in Florida, if I have the location right.

  4. Servetus says:

    How many hard luck stories are there about people partnering with the mob and losing their businesses? I know of two personally. One lost a restaurant, and the other lost $7-million and everything else he had when he tried to break into the New Orleans municipal garbage business, owned by—guess who? That was then. I don’t know who owns it now.

    Today, like any day, marijuana is just an herb. The real moral of Sgt. Valdemar’s story is don’t do business with crooks. Which is precisely the idea behind quasi-legal marijuana dispensaries. In a legalized and regulated system of marketing, the crooks are forced to go legit and buy up the garbage businesses.

  5. Duncan20903 says:

    It’s just your brain Pete. It needs to come out, then you’ll feel much better. Just ask Sgt. Richard Valdemar, he’ll tell you it works wonders once the problem is removed.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      Interesting comments, IIRC I’ve met a fellow named Gieringer at a NORML conference back in the 1990s:

      D Gieringer Alameda County
      Posted: 09:27 am [PST] on November 01 2011

      The drug cops are in bed with the cartels to create MJ “crime.” Just like Al Capone, the Mexican cartels are the product of prohibition. California’s semi-legal medical MJ market has minimal penetration by cartels.

      D Gieringer Alameda County
      Posted: 09:27 am [PST] on November 01 2011

      The Mexican cartels are the product of prohibition. California’s semi-legal medical MJ market has minimal penetration by cartels.

  6. C.E. says:

    OK, that line about Al Capone actually made me laugh out loud at my computer, though I refuse to employ the acronym!

  7. Ben says:

    The notion of the necessity of the Drug War is so deeply ingrained in the collective mindset that cognitive dissonance on this scale is quite routine.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      The dickens you say! Well it must be all the illiterates that have that ingrained mindset because the people that actually know how to read and write overwhelmingly reject the war on (some) drugs as utter nonsense.

      • DdC says:

        people that actually know how to read and write overwhelmingly reject the war on (some) drugs as utter nonsense.

        That nonsense is why it remains.
        You want to buy a used bridge?
        Just driven over by a little old lady on her way to church.

  8. claygooding says:

    scraping the barrel,,no,,the barrel is dry,this came out of the commode.

  9. Duncan20903 says:

    Excellent, Adblock Plus even works on propaganda films.

  10. DdC says:

    When First We Practice To Deceive
    The rest of the story: ‘Kill the Messenger’ does what the U.S. press wouldn’t do—ask hard questions about the campaign against Gary Webb.

    Gary Webb’s “Dark Alliance” Returns to the Internet

    Restored Dark Alliance website.
    Backers of CIA-led Nicaraguan rebels brought cocaine to poor L.A. neighborhoods in early ’80s to help finance war — and a plague was born.
    Published: Aug. 18, 1996

    Kill the Messenger: The Tragic Life of Gary Webb

    “Deadly Monopolies”
    Medical Ethicist Harriet Washington on How Firms are Taking Over Life Itself

    One of the major themes raised by the Occupy movement is the increasing power of large corporations over more and more aspects of our lives. We spend the hour looking into the issue of the corporate control of life itself. Our guest, Harriet Washington, is a medical ethicist and has just published a book that examines the extent to which what she calls the medical-industrial complex has come to control human life. In the past 30 years, more than 40,000 patents have been granted on genes alone—many more patents are pending. Washington argues that the biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies patenting these genes are more concerned with profit than with the health or medical needs of patients. Her new book is called “Deadly Monopolies: The Shocking Corporate Takeover of Life Itself—And the Consequences for Your Health and Our Medical Future.”
    includes rush transcript

  11. DdC says:

    “Blood on the Tracks”:
    Brian Willson’s Memoir of Transformation from Vietnam Vet to Radical Pacifist

    Up is down in their Neoconfederacy. End justifies the means. Say what you want to hear. Can’t legislate prohibitions if you ain’t elected. Can’t profit $One Trillion on prohibition if it ain’t illegal. They are going to saved us even if it killz us. Prison gang bangs as deterrents to illicit inhalation. Shot in the back for running away from a burning bong. False positive Pisstaste ruining lives, careers and families. Renewable Hemp means local jobs. Crude Oil takes money out. Cotton’s 90 million pounds of poison pesticides abort babies organic Hemp doesn’t. Wars abort babies Hemp doesn’t. Prohibition and Deregulating environmental safeguards aborts babies. Pro Life my ass. DEAth sentences cost hundreds of millions. Instead of Koch’s $72k/yr cages for Ganja Growers and Retailers. Buy local spend local. Taxes going to people are spent by the people, locally. Taxes spent on war and prison leave local economies. DCWallSt Vs Local Communities. That is the question. Pharmaceuticals with costly side effects Treatments vs Renewable age old homegrown remedies. Modern day witch burnings when they simply believed in God’s creations over Man’s religion. Or the religion of Drugs. With draconian punishment for Blasphemers finding cures and preventing what is written. In God we Trust our Money. The Untied States of Anemica. Patriots get sick like obedient toy soldiers. Get drunk and wreck into families to aid the poor Drug Manufacturers and Plastic IV bag makers. The little bit of Rockefeller in each Ambulance gas tank. The star trek beds and uniforms of polyester. Plastic throughout the carpets and gadgets made in Japan and China.

    Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or Ganja//Hemp.

  12. kaptinemo says:

    All because this BS never gets challenged in court, where there are supposed to be penalties for lying.

    Get ’em in court, make ’em swear what they are about to say is the truth, and that there’s going to be Hell to pay if it’s not, show them the industrial-sized palette-pile of studies that prove them wrong, then watch them ‘take the Fifth’.

    Only the dimmest bottom feeder on the prohib food chain would not know what ‘perjury’ means, and the more knowledgeable prohibs know they can’t even open their mouths on illicit drugs without risking that.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      Actually perjury requires a statement be material to the proceedings. Haven’t we established that the truth has no bearing when it comes to drug laws?

      You can’t be convicted of perjury for testifying that your name is John Jones if it’s actually Samuel Smith unless it makes a difference to the proceeding, for instance if Mr. Smith is a well known liar by name.

      The false statement must be material to the proceedings. A false statement is material if it has “a natural tendency to influence, or is capable of influencing, the decision of the decision-making body to which it was addressed.” Kungys v. United States, 485 U.S. 759, 770 (1988)(denaturalization proceeding).


  13. DdC says:


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  15. TINMA says:

    So, they are saying that if legalized (which means everyone would be able to grow their own)There would be a bigger market FOR the cartels? Well what was I thinking. Of course I wouldn’t grow my own or get it from a buddy that does grow his own.NO NO! I would choose to buy it from dangerous blood thristy cartels . Gee I’m glad they got me straightened out!

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