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A see-through wall

Yep. We apparently need a transparent wall on the border with Mexico.

So we can see the bags of drugs flying over the wall…

…and don’t get hit on the head with them.

That’s apparently how drug trafficking works.

Trump explains why he wants to be able to ‘see through’ his border wall

Question: You were joking about solar, right?

Trump: No, not joking, no. There is a chance that we can do a solar wall. We have major companies looking at that. Look, there’s no better place for solar than the Mexico border — the southern border. And there is a very good chance we can do a solar wall, which would actually look good. But there is a very good chance we could do a solar wall.

One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.

And I’ll give you an example. As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don’t see them — they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It’s over. As cray as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall. But we have some incredible designs.

It is unconfirmed whether the wall will also play “Dark Side of the Moon” in surround-sound.

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33 comments to A see-through wall

  • Will

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    Along with the catastrophic human carnage resulting from “when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don’t see them — they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff…”, I greatly fear for the few remaining jackalopes and chupacabras that also live along the southern border. And the very rare desert variants of Sasquatches and Loch Ness Monsters? They are done for.

    Yes, we definitely need a solar wall. For transparency. (This from the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.)

    • Will

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      After just a few sips of coffee I came up with an enhancement for Donald’s already “incredible design”. On the US side of the wall, just build a continuous, strategically angled trampoline that simply bounces “the large sacks of drugs” right back over the wall. Sure, health care might be complicated, but this wall stuff is easy.

      • WalStMonky

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        Now that’s just plain funny. I can see you’re a person who thinks things through. But instead of a wall shouldn’t we consider building a series of abutting pyramids in order to maximize the solar power harvest?

        • Will

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          I think a wall of solar pyramids is as good an idea as any. And with Donald’s well known cultural sensitivity he could have them fashioned after pyramidal structures found at many historic Mayan sites. Plus, based on his stellar deal making skills, I’ll bet he could somehow get Eqypt to defray part of the cost. Because, you know, pyramids (smh).

        • WalStMonky

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          We’re also forgetting about the Sphinx. A being with the body of a lion and the head of a man, they were often built to protect the pyramids. In order to get President [expletive deleted] on board, those built to protect the border pyramids could have the body of a lion and the head of the POTUS instead of some long forgotten Egyptian dude. Of course this would mean that the modern versions wouldn’t technically be Sphinges. But to honor their historical inspiration we could call them Sphinxters. Now does this sound like a plan or what?

  • We already have a see through wall. Its called a border.

  • Servetus

    Trump neglected to mention his other ideas for his wall:

    ● Solar panels will be arranged to repeatedly spell out the name ‘Trump’ along the entire length of the wall.

    ● Solar power from Trump’s wall will be used to power fifty new Mar-a- Lago Clubs that Trump will build adjacent to the length of the wall.

    ● To emphasize that America comes first, the wall will be built on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande to preserve scenic riverfront views for US citizens.

    ● The Rio Grande will be tapped to irrigate Trump’s fifty new Mar-a-Lago golf courses.

    ● A fee will be charged by Trump & Sons to allow people to traverse doorways built into the wall that allow entry into Mexico.

    ● Trump’s entry or re-entry fee into the US via his wall will be much higher than the exit fee in order to allow Trump & Sons to tap into lucrative drug smuggling operations.

  • darkcycle

    Oh my. We are in trouble. This is the sort of thing I would expect from my eight year old.

  • kaptinemo

    A sure sign of an empire in decline is when mental illness – or outright, painfully obvious imbecility – on the part of the chief head of state is either shrugged off or, worse, accepted as the new norm. Given Trump’s latest pronouncements such as these regarding a ‘transparent’ wall, I can’t decide as to which condition applies. But it does not bode well for the nation, or the planet.

    • WalStMonky

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      It sounds like you think that imbecility and mental illness are mutually exclusive conditions. I can assure you that they are not.

      • kaptinemo

        In some cases, yes. Imbecility usually stems from a genetic defect. For all I know, so does megalomania.

        One of the greatest lawyers who ever lived, Cicero, said that a nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. He did not say whether a nation can survive ambitious fools. I guess we’re going to find out, in due course…

  • Herder

    The US has 88,000 miles of border.

    “protection” is a scam.

    Extortion.

  • Daniel Williams

    When you think about it, the theme song should be Dark Side of the Mule, by Gov’t Mule.

  • WalStMonky

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    President [expletive deleted] never fails to make me want to beat my head against a brick wall. What happens when there are suddenly thousands of miles of wall on the border? I predict an epidemic of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (formerly called dementia pugilistica) among those who live in proximity to the southern border. God help these poor souls if Mr. [expletive deleted] gets reelected.

    Has he ‘splained how the Rio Grande conundrum will be solved? Will we just cede it to Mexico? Why the heck can’t we just be pragmatic and annex Mexico? Not only will US citizenship stop Mexicans from entering the country illegally, the US/Guatemala border will be only a fraction of the length of today’s US/Mexico border. Of course the savings enjoyed because of the shorter border will be offset in the beginning because of the expense of our governments having to buy 81 star flags. Do you know how many friggin’ 50 star flags the assorted US governments own? Well neither do I but its a lot. Perhaps we could have the flags manufactured in Mexico on the cheap? Even better they could make them at Mexico’s expense to offset some of their annexation fees.

    There are solutions if people would just use their heads and just think things all the way through. This controversy has gotten just plain old and it’s time to put it to bed once and for all. Do you realize this debate has been going on since the later parts of the 19th century? Enough is enough.

    • kaptinemo

      (Sitting back in chair, wry smile on face) Why am I not surprised?

      Extremism knows no bounds; it can only expand when not sufficiently checked. In this case, Taylor’s over-inflated sense of self-importance as an anti-cannabis prohib ‘activist’ has led to her to take her version of a Children’s Crusade a step further in magnitude…and inanity.

      I and others have crossed swords with her numerous times in public fora over the past decade and a half, and in every case she utilized the circular logic so prevalent with prohibs, claiming refuted facts were unassailable and thus so was she, steadfastly refusing to admit defeat even when usually uninterested parties noted her inability to debate properly, refusal to correct statements based on questionable facts, etc. and called her out on it. A long running thread at the PoliticalCrossfire forum ca. 2007 that I was fortunate enough to participate in was especially enlightening as to her thought processes in particular and prohibs in general.

      So now, she’s taken the next step beyond garden-variety ‘activism’ and begun active meddling in the justice system, with horrendous results for those later found innocent of crimes she suspected them of committing and sought to punish. Once more, I am reminded of Nietzsche’s warning about such as Linda:

      “But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangman and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had – power.” (Emphasis mine – k.)
      Part II, Chapter 29, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

      Linda has always sought to punish what she personally disliked, and this was a perfect example of that desire to punish…and her lust for power in order to accomplish that. A ‘pharisee’, indeed.

    • DdC

      Of all tyrannies,
      a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
      may be the most oppressive.
      — C.S. Lewis, in “The Humanitarian
      Theory of Punishment,” an essay from “God In The Dock”

      SNITCH
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/

      Throwaways
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1846

      In 1930’s Germany, the new socialist government of Adolf Hitler (NAZI National Socialist Workers’ Party) began indoctrinating children in the quasi-military organization, the Hitler Youth, to inform on their parents should they overhear discussions subversive to the policies of the Leader. As the noose was tightened, local community organizers were appointed to watch their neighbors and were told to report subversive comments to the bureaucrats above them. Neighbors informed on neighbors, some for reasons of patriotism or loyalty, some from fear. A modern inquisition ensued; a terror to free thought and expression. Increasingly harsh penalties were meted out to those who dared to dissent. Read more

      TrumpChumps.jpg
      http://oi68.tinypic.com/2na0ilw.jpg

      Ignorant Jeff Excluding the National Commission on Forensic Science
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/sreply/1163

    • Linda “copsucker” Taylor will also use multiple profiles and screen shot everything and turn it over to the DA’s office. She has blogs all over the country under many names, at last count I found 12 in northern California and 2 in Arizona. She is a lunatic that has no ethics or moral fiber.
      Go to dawgonnit.com to see more articles about her activities, including FBI reports and court discovery where she was a informant doing her own investigation.

  • DdC

    In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.”

    I think a See-Through “opening in a wall is called a Window,

  • Speaking of see through walls, how do you feel about warning labels on cannabis products? This guy Thomas Ascik, retired federal prosecutor thinks we do.

    I already threw my 2 cents in. https://tinyurl.com/yczsfp9k

    Second trashy article this week from the hill. I think they are playing limbo with the AG and they are trying to see “how low can you go?” Sessions is pretty short and it doesn’t sound like fun. Sense seems out of the question.

    • Servetus

      The billions spent to date by the federal government on marijuana disinformation has accomplished nothing other than the opposite of what was intended.

      So if Thomas Ascik thinks labeling a soft-pack of Panama Reds with a picture of some guy’s dick falling off after smoking a doobie is going to accomplish anything different—I say go for it. Let’s popularize cannabis to the max.

    • DdC

      The federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act requires all drugs in the United States to be shown safe and effective before being marketed in the United States.

      Seriously? They use people as Guinea Pigs. Most of the commercials are about side effects. Usually kept on the shelves until forced by lawsuits to remove them. If the FDA was so thorough, why so many drug deaths and debilitating side effects?

      Drug Worriers preferred methods of treatment…
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1945

      Cannabis is not a drug, its an Essential Supplement for the Endocannabinoid System. As the seeds and oil are Essential Fatty Acids. There should be a label on crooked politicians bilking tax payers to perpetuate this drug war scam.

      Or why haven’t they tested Cannabis? The 1999 IOM re-evaluations are still stalled by the HHS. Nixon arbitrarily and capriciously on a temporary bases classed Cannabis in all forms as a Sched#1 Narcotic. That is the base the liars and crooked profiteers survive on. Politically classed as no medicinal value as the base for banning research. Its so obvious one has to woner if the people really want to be a free society. Most seem comfortable with being told what to di and what not to do. Cheating is a simple means to an end and the end is what they tell you it is. The Drug Worrier Party of Cowards who attack sick people, pregnant women and hides behind kids. Profit wars and trashing the air and water making us sick enough to buy their pills. Keep workers poor and wall st wealthy.

      The new country the G-20 Neocons aim to rule is called Earth. Dividing the continents into states. United Statians will live in Mexamericanada. Imagine there’s no countries, It isn’t hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for. And no religion too. Imagine Whirled Peas!

      “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
      and so are we. They never stop thinking about
      new ways to harm our country and our people,
      and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush

      The Proudly Ignorant, Adoring Fanatics
      of the Fool on the Hill

      Some Trump supporters thought NPR tweeted ‘propaganda.
      It was the Declaration of Independence.

      The self imposed moralists never think they can get caught. Rubbing their little Geeeeezus foot bringing them holy luck. Slot Machine Bennett, Jim Bakker ruining Tammy Fay’s clown make up. Calvina’s sister? Or the various scammers taking SS checks from lil ole ladies. Oral Roberts was Building a Stairway to Heaven. Then selling it to Led Zeppelin for the lady who wants to buyyyy one. Did he say Oral? Hobby Lobby to forfeit illegally smuggled Iraqi artifacts in settlement with US Department of Justice.

      “The Technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more CONTROLLED society. Such a society would be dominated by ELITE, unrestrained by traditional values.”
      – Zbigniew Brezhinsky , Advisor to 5 U.S. Presidents
      – Executive Director Trilateral Commission. “Between two Ages”

      I’m cornfused. I didn’t realize receiving stolen priceless artifacts was up for negotiations. Most just get busted for stealing. The so called Justice Dept. had to show probable cause to have them “forfeit” the stolen merchandize? Aren’t they leaving out a rather important part of the so called Justice System by circumventing the courts and “settling” with BS, Beauregard Sessions? Did they say they’re sorry and pinky swear to never do it again? People are denied organ transplants for just being a medicinal cannabis patient, decades sentenced for growing plants people obviously go out of their way to have. While Sheriff Buford T. Justice tries his damndest to bust sick people or at least make it his mission to fight drug trafficking dispensaries and customers in order to make drug abuse pot use or pain relief the most expensive, unpleasant, risky, and disreputable form of recreation remedy a person could have.”

      The easiest way to gain control of the population is to carry out acts of terror. The public will clamor for such laws if the personal security is threatened.
      – Joseph Stalin

    • WalStMonky

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      The Hill is written by idiots for idiots about idiocy. It’s a credit to the American educational system that these morons are able toor read and write the English language. Demanding that they also make sense is just too much. But c’mon, we’re talking about people who don’t want government regulations until they do.

      PS The FDA had nothing to do with the Surgeon General’s warning. The FDA had no authority over smoking tobacco before Congress passed and President Obama signed the “Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act” in 2009. Every State which has implemented regulated re-legalization which includes authorized production and distribution whether intended for enjoyment medicinal need requires warning labels on the end product. Once again the idiot prohibitionists are making a lame argument of form over substance.

      Why hasn’t the FDA either rejected or approved whole plant phytocannabinoid medicines? Because no one has asked them to do so. Why is it that so many of the idiot prohibitionists who genuflect at the altar of the FDA think that the FDA does independent research? There aren’t any researchers in White Oak Maryland who get to work in the morning and debate what research they’re going to start that day. Straight from the horse’s ass:

      2. Why hasn’t the FDA approved marijuana for medical uses?

      A. To date, the FDA has not approved a marketing application for marijuana for any indication. The FDA generally evaluates research conducted by manufacturers and other scientific investigators. Our role, as laid out in the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act, is to review data submitted to the FDA in an application for approval to assure that the drug product meets the statutory standards for approval.
      /snip/

    • kaptinemo

      With the vast majority of commentators disagreeing with the author of that piece, it should become evident how completely out-of-touch those in power are with those who hired them. Sessions and company such as Ascik are living anachronisms, ambulatory museum pieces belonging to a bygone day long past. They refuse to look down and see that they are neck-deep in a historical tar-pit.

      They remind me of the old civil servants of colonial powers who remained behind in those former colonial possessions after those countries gained independence, refusing to admit that things have changed, until they are summarily and forcibly dismissed by those they previously ‘lorded it over’.

      In State after State, the people are sending a message, that the old ways are gone, and that cannabis prohibition is doomed, but like those former civil servants, the prohibs refuse to hear the message. May their comeuppance be as bitter-tasting as experienced by those former colonials.

    • War Boy and his Giant Cock

      “PROP 65 Warning: Marijuana Smoke is a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer.”

      That’s what I get to see when I view the online flower menu of my local cannabis dispensary.

    • Will

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      I clicked on the ‘cannabis sativa’ link in Mr. Ascik’s article which goes to NIDA’s marijuana information page. In the lower right on that page I noticed a ‘Meeting Summary’ link for

      Marijuana and Cannabinoids: A Neuroscience Research Summit

      http://tinyurl.com/yc76w6s4

      I was out of the loop much of last year spending time with an elderly family member struggling with an illness and I didn’t even know this summit took place (over a year ago). Maybe this summit has already been discussed here on Drug WarRant but I was shocked to watch portions of the videos with Nora Volkow (among others) talking about the endocannabinoid system and how contemplating CBD makes her “brain hurt”. Strangely, Ms. Volkow has this “Wow, where did this come from?” attitude when discussing potential therapeutic cannabinoid treatments. But I suppose you have to act surprised if you’ve been part and parcel in delaying such research. And if she pronounces cannabis as can*AW*bis one more time…

      As tedious as some of the presentations are, I’m going to try and slog through more of the videos. Again, if this has already been discussed, I’ll try and catch up.

  • DdC

    Its a scam and science and justice has been left on the porch.

    As states keep saying yes to marijuana, attorney general says no
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/e3d1d145-c513-35ca-a536-93c735a7739d/ss_as-states-keep-saying-yes-to.html

    FDA is an agency within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. FDA’s organization consists of the Office of the Commissioner and four directorates overseeing the core functions of the agency: Medical Products and Tobacco, Foods and Veterinary Medicine, Global Regulatory Operations and Policy, and Operations.
    https://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/ucm194884.htm

    The FDA’s organization consists of the Office of the Commissioner and four directorates overseeing the core functions of the agency: Medical Products and Tobacco, Foods, Global Regulatory Operations and Policy, and Operations.
    https://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/ucm2006145.htm

    Institute Of Medicine Report On Medical Marijuana Celebrates
    10-Year Anniversary Next Week 12 March 2009
    http://norml.org/news/2009/03/12/institute-of-medicine-report-on-medical-marijuana-celebrates-10-year-anniversary-next-week
    Obama Administration “should heed the advice” of the IOM, and “remove federal legal restrictions so that states can regulate marijuana like other accepted prescription medicines,” NORML says

    The IOM report affirmed that marijuana and its constituents possessed numerous therapeutic properties, including the ability to control pain, nausea, and anxiety, and to stimulate appetite.

    FDA and Marijuana: Questions and Answers
    https://www.fda.gov/newsevents/publichealthfocus/ucm421168.htm

    FEDS VS. MEDS
    http://thecre.com/news/20041209_news.html
    A little-known law may finally challenge the feds’ 30-year stall in recognizing medical marijuana. But it also raises a big question: Who decides what is medicine?

    “They don’t let you answer any of the questions in any detail, so I basically pointed him to our amicus brief, which chronicles the obstructions that the government has put in the way of medical cannabis research,” says Barnett. Holding up both this and a 1999 report by the Institute of Medicine, commissioned by drug czar John Walters at the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, which goes into some detail about marijuana’s therapeutic effects and the way research has been stymied for political reasons,

    “When everyone’s saying the FDA should just do this, do they not know that the DEA is in the way of the FDA doing this?” adds McQuie. “It shouldn’t be this hard. It shouldn’t be law enforcement agencies that make medical scientific decisions. But right now it is set up that way.”

    Their gimmick is that they won’t let researchers have cannabis for research,” says Barnett. Though the FDA’s recommendations regarding drugs can allegedly force the DEA to at least consider rescheduling, the two agencies work together to make that impossible. Every potential avenue is only a loop. No legal pot, no research; no research, no legal pot. “That’s the game that’s played: If you object to the regulatory process, they say, ‘Yeah, but there’s judicial review.’ If you get to judicial review, they say, ‘Oh, well, look back at the regulatory process; they’re the experts, not us.’”

    Signed by President Bill Clinton on his way out the door as part of the Paperwork Reduction Act, the DQA was a corporate gimme that was meant to help industries fight meddlesome regulations. Written by former U.S. Office of Management and Budget head Jim Tozzi and backed by a load of big tobacco money, it was meant to thwart or delay decisions that cost industries money.

    The act was designed to sacrifice public health to save industry a lot of hassle and money.

    In 2003, Americans for Safe Access began studying the law for the potential to force the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services – the FDA’s parent agency – to change its statements about pot having no accepted medical value. The group filed its petition with HHS on October 4 and, by way of a press conference, staged a civil disobedience at the doors of the HHS building on October 5, where 14 patients and advocates chanted “Schedule I to Schedule III, cannabis is helping me,” and promptly got arrested.

    It’s a stall, but under the DQA, the stall can only last so long. Frustrating though it may be, this slog is infinitely speedier than any of the attempts at rescheduling that have come before.

    Consider the first petition, filed in 1972. Only two years after marijuana was lumped with LSD, heroin, and mescaline in Schedule I, NORML filed the first petition with the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, the predecessor to the DEA, which stalled for three years and then denied to hear the petition. A court forced them to hear it, then the DEA (formed in 1973) killed it without any hearings. A higher court of appeals again forced them to hear it, but it was easily killed off once more. Finally, in 1986, after another exhaustive, grinding court fight, the DEA caved in and assigned the investigation to its own DEA Administrative Law Judge, Francis L. Young.

    It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the DEA to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence of this record.”

    Of course, the DEA swept it all under the carpet. It decided that Young had applied the wrong standard, that the testimony of doctors and patients didn’t show “a currently accepted medical use.” The record had to show controlled scientific testing – which neither the FDA nor the DEA would allow by law.

    With another 60 days to stew while the FDA and NIDA look at their petition, ASA’s Sherer says they’ll be turning up the heat, trying to keep this moving, badgering members of Congress, running a nationwide sign-on campaign to join the 7,000 doctors who’ve already endorsed ASA’s effort. You might want to look at that number of doctors again: 7,000. That’s a potential blizzard of prescriptions. Sherer, who’s recently been working Capitol Hill relentlessly, can feel the HHS beginning its long stall.

    Lawyer: Marijuana prohibition laws unconstitutional
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/c2f38745-4674-39c0-997b-f36c06e6ca76/ss_lawyer%3A-marijuana-prohibition.html

  • jean valjean

    Reasons not to buy a used car in Massachusetts:

    “The proposed measure redefines reality to make a drug crime out of literally nothing….”

    but here’s a surprise:

    “Police in Massachusetts are supporting this bill not only because it gives them one more tool in their war on drugs, but also because they get to keep any cars they seize.”

    http://www.alternet.org/drugs/outrageous-massachusetts-drug-will-send-prison-steal-car-no-drugs

  • DC Reade

    If anyone wants to read an actual reality-based account of how it is these days on The Border, instead of enduring the CGI-inspired fantasies of Donald Trump, there’s probably no more important book than Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy’s New Killing Fields (2010), by the late Charles Bowden.

    https://www.amazon.com/Murder-City-Ciudad-Economys-Killing/dp/1568586450

    http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-exchange-charles-bowden-on-jurez-murder-city

    Although he managed to complete or collaborate on three more works of journalism before his untimely death in August 2014, Bowden, a long-time chronicler of The Border, was plainly restraining himself from going completely around the bend by the time he wrote this book. And one of the things that drove him to that brink is what’s also currently driving me crazy- not enough Americans are listening.

    Read this book, and then reflect on the fact that it’s been seven years since it’s been published; and that it’s been 20 years since Dan Baum’s book Smoke and Mirrors was published. And take a look around at where we are now.

  • DdC

    Redneck Revolt:
    The Armed Leftwing Group That Wants to Stamp out Fascism
    https://t.co/aTxRRQAdEn

    https://mobile.twitter.com/redneckrevolt#RedneckRevolt

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