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Who is supervising the DEA?

Supposedly the DEA is under the Department of Justice, and therefore under the supervision of the Attorney General, and also supposedly the DEA reports to Congress and is subject to their demands, and also supposedly through the Attorney General, the DEA (and particularly the head of the DEA) reports to the President… and yet, it often seems like they’re some kind of rogue non-governmental military organization.

There are times that I really wonder if Michele Leonhart has blackmail materials on the President and members of Congress.

Here’s the latest:

DEA Seizes Kentucky’s Hemp Seeds Despite Congressional Legalization

The Drug Enforcement Administration has seized a batch of seeds that were intended to be part of the launch of Kentucky’s legal hemp industry following congressional legalization of the crop for research purposes.

The DEA has offered a wide variety of explanations to Kentucky officials perplexed at the seizure. “They’re interpreting the law a hundred different ways,” Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner James Comer (R) told HuffPost. “The only way they’re not interpreting it is the way it actually reads.”

Of course, the DEA has never been too concerned about what the law actually says. But still, this is pretty blatant, and caused quite an uproar yesterday.

Then at the end of the day, there was an update:

Late Tuesday night, the DEA agreed to issue a permit, and release the 250 pounds of Italian hemp seeds being held by the U.S. Customs Service, Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner James Comer told the Lexington Herald-Leader.

“It looks like we’ve won this round,” Comer said in a statement. “The DEA completely reversed course from this morning. I think we just needed to get their attention.”

Until…

DEA Reneges On Offer To Free Kentucky’s Hemp Seeds

The Drug Enforcement Administration is insisting that the Kentucky Department of Agriculture apply for a permit to import Schedule I drugs before it can gain access to hemp seeds the agency has seized, according to a letter the DEA sent late Tuesday night.

The letter, obtained by HuffPost through an open records request, represents a reversal of a previous agreement, said Holly Harris VonLuehrte, a senior official at the Kentucky agriculture office.

“We were told yesterday in multiple phone calls that we wouldn’t have to do this Schedule I import permit,” said VonLuehrte, adding that agreeing to the DEA demand would be an implicit admission that hemp is, in fact, a Schedule I drug. “Industrial hemp is not a Schedule I controlled substance. We’re not going to execute a document that violates federal and state law.”

The DEA needs to go. Shut them down. Declare them a terrorist organization. Seize their assets. Investigate the leadership for violation of laws and human rights.

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62 comments to Who is supervising the DEA?

  • pete bulkner

    Those are some fine American Patriots them DEA officers. CHECK MATE LOSERS! go off yerselfs you terrorist supporting potheads. Go back to yet roman noodles and repent for the officers who’ve risked their lives for this Christian nation.

    • Howard

      “Go back to yet roman noodles…”

      Somewhere, in a galaxy far far away, somebody knows what these words mean. Surely, somebody somewhere.

      This “yerself” is stumped.

      By the way, I looked over the CSA yet again. Hemp seeds are nowhere to be found. Consider this “yerself” doubly stumped.

    • Boo

      Remember, in the beginning, God created the FLORA (plants) and saw that it was GOOD. It doesn’t say that they are all good except for this one sticky plant over there. Also, the first printed bibles were printed on hemp paper.
      Checkmate… two times.

      • pete bulkner

        Wrong!! You lose.the bible was printed on satans tolietpaper hemp. Go home and tell your dad to pull his penis out yer mouth.

      • ezrydn

        As were our Bill of Rights and US Constitution!

        • pete bulkner

          The bill of rights doesn’t apply to anyone but Christians. So drug abusers dont count. And besides the founding fathers owned slaves and harmed children ,just like you.

    • Howard

      Wait, were you sent from Christians For Michele Bachmann?

    • Sgt. P. Mattingly

      Pete, I am curious as to what part of hemp you believe is smoked or ingested to be a pothead? This hemp is going to better the farmers for textiles that you, too, will be appreciating without a clue. Also, since we are on the subject. Marijuana has been proven (not by something on the internet) but by my brothers in, and separated from the military to treat PTSD. Those are your officers you are talking about. Judging by your extreme lack of education I will explain what PTSD is as well. It’s a bi-product of protecting people like you and sometimes when we come home and realize there are ignorant people spitting on the work we have done (soldiers, not politicians) it makes us want to pop your skull open just to show others that it was empty. Don’t speak about what you don’t know. Actually, not talking at all maybe a best situation. But I’m sure you are a nice boy on the street, saving your courage for your keyboard time. Educate yourself, we already have enough clowns giving your “Christian” nation a bad name.

      • pete bulkner

        You failed this country. Druggie, I served Nam. I know what pot does, I dont care what it “treats” it harms my profits.so therefor needs to remain illegal. Thanks for turning your back on America.

  • “The Drug Enforcement Administration was created by President Richard Nixon through an Executive Order in July 1973 in order to establish a single unified command to combat “an all-out global war on the drug menace.” At its outset, DEA had 1,470 Special Agents and a budget of less than $75 million. Today, the DEA has nearly 5,000 Special Agents and a budget of $2.02 billion.” http://www.justice.gov/dea/about/history.shtml

    The Obama Administration has said it ended the war on drugs. An executive order in 2014 to end the DEA would be appropriate. How can the war end without dismantling Richard Nixon’s fascist folly called the DEA?

  • HEMP is a Schedule 1 drug?!?

    Tell that to George Herbert Walker Bush – the parachute that saved his ass in WW2 was composed of HEMP.

    Why don’t we go ahead and outlaw BRAIN CELLS…apparently, thinking is a danger to Americans everywhere.

  • Jean Valjean

    “The Drug Enforcement Administration is insisting that the Kentucky Department of Agriculture apply for a permit to import Schedule I drugs before it can gain access to hemp seeds the agency has seized, according to a letter the DEA sent late Tuesday night.”
    Do these people have any idea just how ridiculous they sound? Michele and her gang seem to have no sense of embarrassment at all.

    • allan

      wait Jean, give ’em just a little bit more rope… (hemp rope of course)

      • claygooding

        I agree allan,,more rope is all they need,,that and having it tied off 6 inches from the floor.

        • allan

          oh yeah, just enough rope soz they can do it themselves (’cause Lonnie Minkler taught me that clean hands are next to dogliness and we wouldn’t any of their dirt on our hands)

          I don’t know how many quarters Mz Leonhart put in the meter but ppretty soon she’s gonna get her vehicle towed and impounded. From there it will be disassembled and scrapped.

        • allan

          hah! time to redraw that picture…

          how can folks with their heads so far up their asses manage to stick both feet in their mouths AND stick their necks thru a noose?

      • thelbert

        it seems Pete has touched a nerve with the word supervising. really made pete b. jump, or should i say made more than one pete bulkner jump. sunshine is the enemy of the narks, darkness their natural milieu. but isn’t gilbert honing our drug and thought control strategy to a fine edge and bringing a century of struggle against libertines to fruition? don’t forget, pete bulkiner you will be sniveling before this is over.

  • There was a Congressional legalization of the crop for research purposes. Does the DEA have the right to over-ride Congress and set their own agenda? One that is different from the Presidents agenda, and that of Congress? The answer is NO, they do not.

    This is a rogue agency with the ability to set their own agenda. An agenda that is different from the one set by The United States of America. Operating on secret information surreptitiously provided to them illegally by the NSA. This dog has no leash.

  • Jean Valjean

    “There are times that I really wonder if Michele Leonhart has blackmail materials on the President and members of Congress.”
    Yes, it puzzles me too that she can semi-publicly abuse her boss’s boss for his comments on alcohol and cannabis, yet remain in her post.
    J. Edgar Hoover successfully blackmailed several presidents using the information stored on his “personal” file… alas, shredded by his secretary immediately after his death.
    I have no doubt in my mind that our little sleuth Michele (see stolen bicycle incident) had, as a role model, J. Edgar himself.

  • I Feel So Dirty

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    Have we seen the results of their urine screens?

  • Howard

    Meanwhile over at base camp SAM;

    Kevin: “Patrick, we scored a major victory today. The DEA confiscated 250 pounds of hemp seed.”

    Patrick: “That’s great, we really are winning!”

    Kevin: “Yeah, well…Uh, how’s that experiment going that will demonstrate the strategy we’ll use to bring the win home?”

    Patrick: “Well, I’ve put some of the toothpaste back in this tube. But it’s really harder than it looks.”

    [laugh track disabled to avoid distracting the eventual “winners” from their brilliant campaign].

  • Common Science

    Have the DEA ever been held accountable for any of their numerous atrocities? In so many words, I have asked that question in a number of forums over the years. All before this remarkable year for this disgusting organizational blight. I have never received an answer.

    Somalian pirates have a higher altruistic code of conduct than these bottom-feeders. Speaking for myself, no abrupt ending to the DEA will ever be satisfying enough.

  • Tony Aroma

    Defying the president and Justice Department is one thing. The DEA has learned there are absolutely no consequences for that. But openly defying Congress, that’s another story. I’m not sure what they’re hoping to accomplish, or prove, but I have a feeling it’s not going to work out too well for them this time.

    Seriously, are they really not aware of how this makes them look? Like petulant children who, if they don’t get their way, are just going to take the seeds and ruin everybody else’s fun. WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

  • Kentucky sues federal government over hemp seeds
    http://tinyurl.com/mbt83st

    “Defendants in the lawsuit include the Justice Department, the Drug Enforcement Administration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Attorney General Eric Holder. The Justice Department did not immediately comment.”

    The path of least resistance for the administration is to say bye-bye to Michelle. The most inadequate immediate solution too. If Nixon had the huevos to start this monster with an executive order, Obama should find some to end it in the same way. Sorry, there is no nice way to say it.

    Barry, are you serious about ending that drug war for real?

  • pete bulkner

    They are following the law. Kentucky the one breaking the law with trying to grow illegal drugs such as hemp. A child was molested by her father ,because he was growing hemp out in the hollers. He bound and gagged her with hemp rope.her voice was muffed by the toxic hemprope gag. It suppressed her into unconsciousness. All because losers like you think you can by pass the status Que. Hemp is a drug ,used to rape & kill innocent people. I for one speak for americans(real Americans,not sum hippie with a doobie commie who thinks they are Americans) the DEA is doing what’s right,just and American

    • Howard

      Okay, pete bulkner, these are gems;

      “…toxic hemp rope gag…” [though in the context you provide, it’s horrific — and a lie]

      “…pass the status Que…” [question: did you mean pass the status queue, as in cut in line? Or, what?]

      “…sum hippie with a doobie commie…” [sorry, another question: do you mean the sum total of hippies packing doobie commies? Which leads to: what is a doobie commie?]

      Poetry, pete bulkner, shear poetry. Yes, poetry sheared off the poetry tree. Nice harvest you freak. I’m a fan (yes, I’m being carsastic).

      • pete bulkner

        Apparently you don’t understand English boy. Maybe if you stopped pouring jizz in yer ears you’da passed the kindergarten class. Oh wait yer to busy getting high on hemp that you forget yer a commie. I fought in NAM. I waited my boys get stoned on the felid. I had to watch them die. You know what that’s like boy? Waiting yer men smoke grass start laughing,getting touchy feely with everyone acting homosexual. I did what I was sent to do. I had to shoot em junkie zombies before they could have infected anyone else. Far as I’m concerned we lost Nam to druggies. If we would just kill every pothead we’d be good any. Ya’ll Clyde Bundy supporters. Dam racist.

        • Jean Valjean

          Hey Pete Bulkner….glad to see they restored your computer privileges after that unfortunate incident with the animal porn.

        • Howard

          pete bulkner, you’ve hit me where it really hurts. I did not go to kindergarten (that’s the truth). So I didn’t even get the chance to pass it. Thanks for rekindling the point where my life nosedived (at age 5) and never recovered. Coincidentally, I started smoking the marijuana pots at age 5. Now I’m beginning to see where it all went wrong. The marijuana pots and the lack of kindergarten. A tough start for me.

          And yes, I don’t understand English boy (where is he now I wonder?). But I’m working on it (see my kindergarten debacle above).

  • Howard

    Alzheimer’s Prevention Starts with Marijuana, According to British Journal

    http://tinyurl.com/luvz6ny

    While I do not wish Alzheimer’s on anyone, somebody needs to start a longitudinal study on DEA employees, past and present. Of course, the most hypocritical DEA’ers who smoke cannabis will not get Alzheimer’s. And they should be arrested retroactively, just for the fun of it.

    Release the (hemp) seeds!

    • pete bulkner

      you think yer funny ? quit yer yapping and get on yer knees and start gagging. yo momma shoulda aborted yer when she had a chance. oh wait she was too busy sucking dick for weedsticks. thats why yer a stupid pothead. cause you dont know hububba,. Fuck marijuana,fuck the bill of rights for junkies.

      • primus

        Pete, the best part of you ran down your mama’s thigh. You are a vile, despicable persona, obviously too contrived to be real. Nobody is that stupid, callous, cruel, unfeeling and unthinking all at the same time. Troll.

      • Plant Down Babylon

        Isn’t calling people names the last step before losing?

        Thought so.

        It’s been a while since we’ve had a genuine troll. Where’s wiggles when you need him?

  • Mallam

    The DEA, like a lot of the PermaGov, operates with impunity and with little to no oversight of its activities. Lump them in with the CIA, NSA, Pentagon, and many other agencies with “Black Box” budgets. Many of them have much more than simply “blackmail.”

    On a lighter note, Vice traveled to Uruguay and chilled with the leftist president to discuss the War:

    http://www.vice.com/read/president-chill-jose-pepe-mujica-uruguay-0000323-v21n5

  • Servetus

    In DEA’s world, all roads lead to the DEA. Or at least the DEA believes they do. It’s not just the DEA. Government agencies and departments often act as if they’re the center of their own universe.

    The DEA wants to remain relevant as society increasingly sees them as the problem and not the solution. Some innocuous transaction involving the evil word “hemp” is enough spark a vain, reactionary hope that they won’t end up like the ex-Stasi, dressing up in their old GDR uniforms and throwing secret beer parties in their basements as if it were the good old days and they could still mess with people.

  • Clearly the inmates are running the asylum. Nixon’s monster has surpassed anything Harry Anslinger could dream. They have to make work for themselves. Their cash cow is about to leave the farm. Already they’re beating the drum about opioids, rescheduling some (to give themselves more business). They do not exist to serve the interests of the citizens. They serve their own interests, first and foremost.

  • NorCalNative

    Pete, thanks for allowing opposing comments.

    I find trolls, especially the illiterates, entertaining!

  • chrystal powers

    [Ed. Post content deleted. It is not OK to advocate killing anyone in these comments. Be outraged, yes. Demand justice, yes. Suggest that we start killing people, no.]

    • Howard

      Pete, I applaud your open ended policy regarding comments. But I also wholeheartedly agree with your edit here.

      Case in point: Recently a law enforcement officer in Killeen, Texas was killed while executing a no-knock drug raid. While coming through a window — at 5:30am — the officer was shot in the face and died a couple days later (3 others were wounded). Now the person they were raiding is likely to face capital murder charges. There’s nothing to celebrate here. Certainly not the death of the officer or those who were wounded. And certainly not the person who was probably scared to death and opened fire in self defense and now could very well end up in prison or on death row. [Note: a few months ago, in a separate case, a grand jury refused to indict a shooter in the death of an officer during a drug raid].

      What needs to “die” are policies and procedures that have SWAT teams conducting no-knock raids and putting everyone involved in harms way. And everything else involved in the drug war needs to be put to rest. All of it.

  • Duncan20903

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    Dr. Oz has jumped on the medicinal cannabis bandwagon. This one is from the “rats abandoning a sinking ship” category:

    Dr. Oz Backs Medical Marijuana, Says It’s ‘Hugely BeneficialThe Huffington Post | by Matt Ferner
    05/14/2014

    /snip/
    “I grew up like most of my generation believing that marijuana was something Satan was throwing at Americans, a communist plot. ”
    /snip/

    I’ve never heard anyone else call cannabis the catalyst for a communist plot. Not in this lifetime. What in the world is the good doctor’s definition of the word most?

    PS I feel compelled to admit that I really do miss the commies.
    Monty Python: Party Hints and Communist Revolutions I totally understand the guy at 2:20. He perfectly verbalizes my feeling toward the prohibitionists. That feeling just can’t be illustrated in any other way with even an iota more accuracy.

    • claygooding

      I heard it called a communist plot by Nixon in the early 70’s,,,he was saying that the commies were hooking our soldiers on marijuana so they would come back and spread it’s use all over America,,,we hadn’t thought of it until then,,so it is more of a Nixon plot than a communist plot.
      Another “oops” backfired moment….

    • Howard

      Based on his age (b.1960) I’m surprised he wouldn’t even say this;

      ———-

      “I grew up like most of my generation believing that marijuana was something Satan was throwing at Americans, a communist plot. ”

      ————–

      “Most” of his generation certainly didn’t believe Satan was throwing marijuana at Americans. And the communist plot thing was a typical scare tactic about anything threatening America — real or imagined — aimed at a generation before him. Strange quote from Oz.

  • Nick

    I thought they had institutions for people like these? (DEA) Who authorized their computer access?

  • Howard

    Maybe somebody has already posted this link. If not, from a week ago;

    Legal Pot in the US Is Crippling Mexican Cartels

    http://tinyurl.com/lv2l7vh

    The DEA is prominently mentioned. Most of the article is not new to anyone here. Just more fuel to end the DEA. Here’s a fun quote;

    ————

    “The DEA doesn’t want the drug war to end,” said Nelson, when asked about a possible connection between the agency’s hatred of legal pot and its buddies in Sinaloa. “If it ends, they don’t get their toys and their budgets. Once it ends, they aren’t going to have the kind of influence in foreign government. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but where there’s smoke there’s probably fire.”

    ————

  • DdC

    Marijuana and Seniors: America’s Underserved Could Benefit Most

    Marijuana May Heal Health Problems That Come With Old Age:
    How Can People Living in Senior Homes Get It?

    Elderly given MMJ in Israel’s Nursing Homes
    Moshe Rute uses for Holocaust nightmares and flashbacks.

    Senior Americans Overwhelmingly Support Legalizing Pot
    ✽ Teaching Seniors the Benefits of Ganja
    ✽ Seniors Using Ganja For A Good Night’s Sleep
    ✽ Kansas Silver-Haired Legislature endorses medical marijuana

    The Secret to Long Life According to Betty Dodson:
    Masturbation, Pot and Raw Garlic

  • DdC

    Kentucky state officials are suing the federal government over held-up hemp seeds: http://ow.ly/wSuFH

  • Tony Aroma

    This crazy situation has got me thinking. A few random thoughts:

    The president and AG have been passing the buck, saying how Congress needs to change the laws. Well, Congress up and DID change the law, and it made not one bit of difference to the DEA. Is that irony?

    Since the hemp seed the DEA “seized” is not an illegal substance, what they did amounts to armed robbery. The state of KY needs to get a warrant and a big SWAT team and raid that customs office where the seeds are being held (it’s in KY). I’m talking your basic SWAT/DEA-style raid: heavily-armed, masked gunman that take what isn’t nailed down, trash the rest, and let the courts figure it out.

    One other thing, if the DEA believes they’ve seized a controlled substance, is their next step asset forfeiture? What do you think, will the DEA go totally off the deep end and attempt to seize the state of Kentucky as proceeds of crime?

  • bruce marsh

    Cannabis prohibition is an ongoing long term civil war against American citizens and now against States. We need a war crimes tribunal to charge the DEA chief and other high ranking officials, especially those abusing medical cannabis patients and their suppliers.

  • Jean Valjean

    Bill Piper of Drug Policy alliance says Leonhart should go.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-piper/michele-leonhart-should-resign_b_5332922.html
    Activists are using the Twitter hashtag #FireLeonhart.

  • Howard

    More on the DEA, with emphasis on Michele;

    DEA Chief Michele Leonhart Should Resign

    http://tinyurl.com/pnlrvs7

  • kaptinemo

    Kentucky fights back: Kentucky sues feds to get hemp seeds’ release

    And guess what? Hearing on release of hemp seeds scheduled for Friday; first planting on hold

    And guess who’s calling for it? “Earlier Thursday, U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell called on the DEA to release the hemp seeds that have been held in Louisville.”

    Michelle ‘done stepped in it’ this time.. She’s picked a fight with a major mucky-muck of the Opposition who’s spoiling for a slug-fest with the Obama Administration, and here he’s been given a ready-made one.

    Brown smelly stuff impacting atmospheric ventilator in 3…2…1…

  • Just 20 days til another court challenge to cannabis prohibition in California. Judge Kimberly Mueller will decide whether cannabis prohibition violates the constitution’s equal protection clause. In light of the latest statements by the president and DOJ, this seems to have a good chance of at least getting a fair hearing. So mote it be.

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/marijuana_law/2014/03/federal-court-to-hold-evidentiary-hearing-on-the-constitutionality-of-marijuana-as-a-schedule-i-subs.html

    The legal briefs make for interesting reading.

  • Tony Aroma

    One more thought: Why has nobody ever petitioned the DEA to reschedule hemp? I think even the DEA would have a hard time defending a schedule 1 classification for a non-drug.

  • thelbert

    here’s some visuals of what will supercede the war on drugs.http://tinyurl.com/msua2gm

  • mike

    so let me see if i get it;

    Ky comes to a full stop cause our seeds are not being
    collected as their is a bounty on them.

    Seems that the GOP heads would be able to get a Hearing
    from Rep. Issa on how the Gov. is holding back jobs.
    I bet the Rep. being a old car parts man can understand
    growing and making hemp parts and plastic will help the
    USA.

    Just how many acres or bussels of seed are not collected
    here in the USA every year.