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Are you better off dead than high?

That’s the subtitle of this excellent article in Psychology Today: Tylenol and the War on Drugs

The article starts off about the recent realization by the FDA that pharmaceutical policy was setting people up to die of liver disease if they overused Vicodin, because it is intentionally laced with acetaminophen.

It goes on to logically tie that to the intentional poisoning of alcohol during Prohibition 1.

This is clearly the domain of the sado-moralist. They’re always around making sure that people get harmed rather than high.

[Via Radley]

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13 comments to Are you better off dead than high?

  • Paul

    If anybody besides the government set traps like this, intentionally meant to hurt and kill people, they would get the death penalty for premeditated murder.

    But the government just gets re-elected.

  • DdC

    Poison Pot – 07/09/01
    It takes four or five hours for a sprayed plant to die, according to Indiana state trooper Don Hartman, who said that the poison won’t kill someone who tries to smoke a treated plant, but “They won’t get the same high,” he chuckled. Of course, they wouldn’t get high anyway. Since hemp only contains trace amounts of THC (just as the poppy seeds on your muffin contain trace amounts of opium), people who pick the leaves in hopes of a cheap high wind up with the same sense of euphoria that comes with raging headaches and sore throats. All of that dopeless smoke only makes you sick.

    AEC, DOE, NRC, Nuclear Murderers – 07/05/01

    Harsh Souder Drug Bill Coming Soon To Congress
    You can murder, maim and molest and still get federal financial aid for college.
    But get caught smoking a joint, and you have to pay your own way;
    if you can afford it, that is.

    The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment & Linx – 04/08/02

    # The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

    This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.
    ~ The Nuremberg Code

    • DdC

      Wall street’s Spontaneous Abortionists
      Tobacco and alcohol use by pregnant women has adverse effects on the fetus. Tobacco use causes an increase in SIDS and miscarriages. It is estimated that 3700 children die by the age of one month because of complications from the mother’s smoking during pregnancy.

      The Assassins of Youth: FRCn PDFA/DARE – 07/08/01
      But as things stand now, the $195 million national media campaign that McCaffrey is running this year to dissuade youngsters from using illicit drugs will not spend a penny in Federal funds to warn teenagers about the Dangers of drinking.

      The Murder of Peter McWilliams – 10/05/01

      Govt. Tests for Toxic Paraquat on US Marijuana Supply
      From a 2004 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), ProCon.org obtained documents indicating that the US government, through sub-contractors, is still testing marijuana for Paraquat, a toxic pesticide that was banned in the United States because of its harmful health effects, and finding it in some seized marijuana samples.

      It Can”t Happen Here, It Can’t Happened Here, It Has Happened Here, It Has Happened Here, It is Happening Here…
      DdC

  • Servetus

    Most people would have no idea their medicine has been contaminated with acetaminophen merely to cause them die if they somehow take too much of it for whatever reason.

    Not only is the government arbitrarily killing people for committing minor crimes of vice, it’s essentially shooting at them from the rooftops. To the feds, the wages-of-sin truly is death.

  • Emma

    DAWN (Drug Abuse Warning Network) estimates for 2008 in the US 204000 emergency department visits related to “Hydrocodone/combinations” including 170000 related to acetaminophen-hydrocodone. That’s out of an estimated 669000 visits related to opiates/opioids (other than heroin). It’s not clear from the DAWN data how many acetaminophen-hydrocodone visits are related to liver damage.
    https://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/data/

  • This is not my America

    Theres one way to keep people from being harmed from paraquat…LET US GROW OUR OWN !!!

  • kaptinemo

    Puritanism taken to the predictable extreme. Kill a few sinners in order to ‘save’ the rest. Nothing like a few ‘object lessons’.

    The DrugWarriors better pray there’s no social breakdown in this country resulting from the insane economic policies this government implemented at the rich fat cat’s prompting, as there’s tens of millions of people who’ve had their lives and health destroyed, not by drugs but by DrugWarriors; those victims of the DrugWar’s ‘tender mercies’ have a few ‘examples’ to make, themselves.

  • DdC

    Excuse me kaptinemo but these are not warriors in any sense of the word. They are Drug Worriers. That’s what they do, worry, that’s what they are. carry on…

  • paul

    You know, recently I’ve been seeing lots of stories in places like Yahoo news with a comments section, and the comments are really appalling.

    Yesterday, there was a story about China executing 3 Filipinos for drug smuggling. The Philippine government was beside itself, having banned the death penalty already, and believed their citizens were innocent. China, of course, did not, and swiftly executed them in the cold, clinical fashion the world has come to expect from that government.

    The comments section filled up with people saying how happy they were that China killed them, how much they deserved it, and how we should follow China’s enlightened example back in America. I found it really depressing to read, because I think the anonymity of the internet brings out people’s true feelings.

    A lot of these law and order characters consider themselves social conservatives, and are presumably religious (unless they are atheistic statists). Now, I’m not particularly religious but I get the idea. What part of “Thou shalt not kill” is so hard to understand? Would Jesus have injected filthy, caustic chemicals into the veins of those people because “they are animals who deserved to die” ?

    • Duncan20903

      .
      .
      Even better is that the entire “death penalty would be effective” fraud is built on the story of how China got drug free “overnight”. Hello? If the death penalty made China “drug” free, why are they executing people on drug charges? Hello? Did these people forget to pay the bill, and so their brain service got shut off?

      The really rotten thing about the demonization of black market drug vendors is that it’s one major impediment to setting up a regulated retail distribution chain. What, and let the ***pushers*** get away with it?

    • i have newspaper articles dating all the way back to the 1800’s about the chinese executing people over drug use to set an example. i don’t know what example they hope to set, but it should be clear to them by now that executing people doesn’t appear to be a successful way to teach anyone a lesson about using drugs.

  • Duncan20903

    Jesus things are getting bad in California. It’s getting to the point where people are going to start thinking that the Holder memo was a trap to draw the medical cannabis players out into the open.

    Gary Johnson has thrown his hat into the ring. Any possibility that we can get potheads to register as Republicans to vote in their State’s primaries? OK, ok I’m a victim of wishful thinking. What the heck, I’ll do it anyway. I wonder how many registrations changes from Green Party to Republican the registrars see every year?

  • Windy

    I think if Gary Johnson and Ron Paul teamed up under the Libertarian Party banner, they’d win the country, hands down. Both are very well known, now; they are all over cable TV news channels. Both are very well liked by average people. It would be a good thing for the nation, the drug policy reformers (and users), and for the Libertarian Party.