Last time on Kids Say the Darndest Things, we had Shane Smith of TCU. Today, it’s Frannie Boyle at Vanderbilt University with Legalized marijuana? You must be high.
Some really astonishing items in this piece.
Legalization would cause use of marijuana to go up, and as a result, health care costs associated with the drug would rise as well.
And what health care costs are those?
In areas of the world where the drug is decriminalized, there are still high rates of violence and crime as a result of trafficking.
How is that an argument against legalization?
Also, the RAND Corporation did a study that says 60 percent of people arrested in the U.S., England and Australia test positive for marijuana use.
Another absolutely meaningless statistic.
Weed would never boost the economy. The cost of marijuana would drop considerably if it were legalized, giving most distributers a major incentive to stay on the black market or to start dealing other drugs.
Wait. What?
Also, the FDA hasn’t approved marijuana, even for medicinal purposes. This means that marijuana could come from unknown, dangerous sources.
Actually, it’s criminalization that means that marijuana would come from unknown sources. Legalization would solve that.
A common argument is that problems associated with weed can also be associated with alcohol, a legal substance. This may be true, but marijuana users are much more likely to become addicted to the drug than alcohol users.
Coffee spit number 1.
Unlike alcohol, marijuana has no known health benefits.
Coffee spit number 2.
Marijuana is usually consumed to the point of intoxication. Alcohol usually isn’t.
Ironically, that was the erroneous argument put forth by Art Linkletter in his discussions with Nixon, and Art Linkletter started “Kids Sat the Darndest Things” on his television show.
Alcohol can be harmful, yes, but our government tried to make it illegal during the Prohibition and found that crimes and deaths went up as a result. Alcohol has been a part of this world since before Christ, and it is too ingrained in this culture to take away.
Um. How is this an argument against legalization?
Weed, on the other hand, has never been fully ingrained in American culture, and it never will be. College is fun and all, but the real world will meet us with drug tests and rewards for good character, productivity and efficiency — the antithesis of what marijuana is. Music artists and movies stars make smoking weed sound like it’s a mainstream thing, but it is simply the minority’s addiction to escape.
Ah. Drinking is part of good character, productivity and efficiency; marijuana is not.
Almost as scary as Frannie Boyle’s ignorance about marijuana is her conception of what the “real world” is supposed to be.
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
…And the problem is , too many Americans believe this shit.
Out of the mouths of babes, that most definitely isn’t, some wide eyed and bushy tailed writing for sure.
She won’t bother learning (yet). Most of these young (and old) opeders are too busy opining and congratulating themselves on their clever insights and overwrought paragraphs, and all the while they act like they aren’t naive.
Poor Frannie. Must have flunked Early Americn History. She should spend some time reading the assorted writings of our country’s founders and defenders. Yes, Frannie, there WAS a time when it was ingrained into American Culture. If you don’t believe us, look to Ben Franklin as a starter. Learn some history, gurl!!
the comments section on the website this article came from are pure gold. they’re not buying it either
Thanks, Vanderbilt. You’ve shown us we can delete your name from “schools of higher education.”
I’ve been trying to post in their comments section for over an hour now. No comments field comes up in which to type…..AAAARRRGGGHHH
Aside from rubbishing the rest of that rubbish she spewed as it is ‘almost’ beyond belief… this I have heard before from people I’ve come into contact to – “Marijuana is usually consumed to the point of intoxication. Alcohol usually isn’t.”
Its the ‘well I can have one pint and not be drunk, but anyone who smokes weed just gets high’… This is all part of the wonderfully bad perception of Cannabis smokers that still persists. You would think that even when 3 of the most recent and current US presidents (amongst others) have admitted to smoking it that the ‘stoner’ notion could be challenged… but no, prejudice reins..
Aaaaahhhhh, runs screaming from the room.
Pete, are you old enough to remember Senator John Tower? He had a one-page love-hate relationship spelled out with alcohol that’s worth checking out every once in a while.
It’s half love affair and half warning about the dangers. Sorry, I don’t have a link, but I imagine typing his name and “alcohol speech” or something similar would bring it up.
It’s good background information about the cultural role of alcohol in American society for anyone interested in ending prohibition of cannbis.
Well, I finally made that damn comments section work. They only have about 26 comments refuting this piece, and there’s still lots of meat on that bone. (I left some for someone else because I was having a hard time formulating thoughts through this Benadryl Haze I have been living in most of this week….)
This newspaper has to have a faculty advisor, I wonder why he allowed this to be printed? At the very least he had to warn that student about this piece….or maybe there was a long overdue lesson involved. Whatever, I feel that as a (former….Yaaaayyyy!) college teacher, I wouldn’t be doing my (now non)job by letting it go by unaddressed. Rhyader showed up, we should all pile on. Let’s see if we can make her run back to her dorm room crying.
Huh, go figure, a quick Google shows that Boyle isn’t a stranger to media or to minor controversy. Her last spotlight stint got her on CNN and involved her personal opinion and stance about sex, (I actually respect the way she handled it as it seems to have been thrust a little on her, the spotlight, not the sex) but this time she had to go and regurgitate silly statistics and government propaganda as if she’d just found the answer to life.
She seems like she’s strong enough and intelligent enough, if only she’d get out of the authoritarian bath water. You never know what sort of nasty things you can catch in that.
Well, the Vanderbilt student media website says “The Vanderbilt Hustler” the student paper, is published without faculty review….well. This lesson will be taught by us.
Maria, that IS interesting, because it seems she’s a first semester freshman. I wonder why or who is standing her up for this kind of attention. Perhaps they are grooming a new Tool.
Maybe she’s a niece of Linda Taylor?
No hooking up, no sex for some coeds
April 19, 2010 By Stephanie Chen, CNN
It’s a recurring, drunken activity that isn’t the proudest moment for student Frannie Boyle. After consuming large quantities of alcohol before a party, her night would sometimes end in making out with a stranger or acquaintance.
With no regrets: I am Frannie Boyle
It’s embarrassing to admit, but fratting, drinking and getting affirmation from guys were exactly what I placed at the center of my freshman life. By the end of the year, I was constantly disappointed with myself and sad. I was living for those temporary highs but suffering because they weren’t permanent. The random hook ups were destroying me, and I finally had the strength to pull away.
Hooking up is a way to temporarily satisfy that longing, but it often becomes dangerous when people seek this love and identity through it.
Frannie Boyle: without any regrets By Frannie Boyle
Published Apr. 23, 2010. 3635 views
“Sorry I am being so weird, haha, but I just wanted to say sorry about the other night. I really am not like that at all, but I guess I am now, but I don’t want to be … I guess I am confused cause I have been so moral my whole life, kind of anyway, and then third morning in college … Actually it really isn’t a big deal in my head, but I feel like it should be.â€
So this young harlot hypocrite now has a cathoholic calling to lie and gossip about Ganja, knowing full well the lies lead to prison and confiscations. The Federal government will deny students loans with a Ganja conviction, yet Franny has parents to pay I suppose. The black market maintained by Franny’s dribble keeps the prices high and the streets provide unchecked samples, unlike the booze she chugged. As a true conservative once said… “One of the problems that the marijuana-reform movement consistently faces is that everyone wants to talk about what marijuana does, but no one ever wants to look at what marijuana prohibition does. Marijuana never kicks down your door in the middle of the night. Marijuana never locks up sick and dying people, does not suppress medical research, does not peek in bedroom windows. Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.”
~ William F. Buckley, Jr. Requiescat In Pace
Oh. So they ARE grooming themselves a new tool. Landed herself squarely in middle of two contentious public moral debates? In both cases her own anecdotal experience with adolescent experimentation turn into moral lessons for us all? With media outlets? And in the first instance lands her on CNN?
Oh, and I smells me some bullshit.
Duncan, no reason to go easy on her now.
there is truly no excuse for not being able to find and learn the truth.
No legitimate excuse… That brings us to the dilemma of knowingly paying these anti-American DEAth squads salaries. Knowing full well their attitudes towards abusing citizens rights. Knowing they also know or at least have access to know the truth and yet continue the daily terror campaign. Leaving vulnerable sick people stressed out before they can even treat their illness. How low can they go? Those in the corporate world knowing first hand how lethal Ganja isn’t.
Yet lobbying Congress for more ways to pisstaste and humiliate those who would free the weed. To denigrate us out of existence. A systematic approach to maintaining a pool of uneducated cheap labor. Either denied tuition assistance because of past busts or straight to the prison industry jobs telemarketing.
To know when you wake up that you will ruin someone’s life today over some bogus pretense of helping them? Those we elect to govern our interests are not governing well, if at all. If anyone has access to the truth one would think or hope it would be the Congress, the President and the Supreme Court. Instead we end up with inept lackey’s or illiterate mute fools concerning the Ganjawar. Turning siblings into snitches, forfeit the home, confiscate the car, furniture and whatever Christmas gifts laying around. Parents in jail or out on bail. Fired from work. Good job kid, Merry Christmas.
Ah…the posts there are enlightening. This little cherub has a history of Conservative Christian hate mongery already. She’s not a newbie, but a junior, and therefore a seasoned hand at this sort of stuff (just ask any junior). She’s probably taken a job with Rev. J. Dobson by now. I can’t believe I’d actually thought she’d be embarrased by this shit. Well, next time the gloves come off.
Reguritation. How do we stop their continual ferris wheel of recycled lies?
This country is on its death bed. These are some of the people who will lead in the future—what a mess. These are things that Sarah Palin would say and so many people would agree.
People just don’t get it. “We all live in pockets of isolation and conjure up our own perceptions, these perceptions become our realities but are not necessarily the truth” This is clearly illustrated by these comments.