Oakland’s got guts

Oakland Insists It Can Defend Medical Pot Club

SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The city of Oakland renewed demands to stay forfeiture proceedings against a local medical marijuana dispensary whose business it defends as a matter of state’s rights.

Though the U.S. government says that Oakland lacks standing to try to block it from seizing Harborside Health Center, the city argued that it has an interest in protecting its economic and public health interests, and it says a stay would serve the orderly adjudication of justice.

I have no idea whether the city has a chance of winning, but I really admire and applaud the fight.

Read the whole thing – it’s pretty entertaining.

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33 Responses to Oakland’s got guts

  1. claygooding says:

    If nobody challenges the law it will always be considered a precedent,,overturning the seizure laws would be patriotism

  2. Chandler says:

    We’re fighting the same fight as always, but slowly the laws are turning in our favor. What a sweet time this is for the legalization movement.

  3. thelbert says:

    i wonder what happened to jerry brown’s love for oakland. he used to love it so much when he was mayor. surely he has read the tenth amendment. if they want abrogate the constitution why don’t the feds just say so.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      The Reflecting Pool in D.C. is a very shallow body of water. If we wanted to re-name it the Jerry Brown Reflecting Pool it would be a very well fitting name even though it’s likely much deeper than Jerry Brown.

  4. Common Science says:

    There was recently Tony Neuman’s “Take That, Drug Warriors!” – a compilation of drug reform victories and other events, that indicate the good fight is coming to fruition.

    Did a Seasonal short; posted on Vimeo just before last Christmas that I submit for everyone’s pleasure here on Pete’s couch. Please find underlying theme that complements this year’s events:


  5. allan says:

    when Custer took on the pagan heathens at Little Bighorn he assumed it was but one village… he didn’t know the village was many. The rest as they say, is history.

    • Duncan20903 says:

      It’s a classic so you’ve probably heard it but…


      An eccentric billionaire wanted a mural painted on his library wall, so he called in an artist. Describing what he wanted, the billionaire said, “I am a history buff, and I would like your interpretation of the last thing that went through Custer’s mind before he died. I am going out of town on business for a week, and when I return I expect to see it completed.”

      Upon his return, the billionaire went to the library to examine the finished work. To his surprise he found a painting of a cow with a halo. Surrounding this there were hundreds of Indians in various stages and different positions of making love. Furious he called the artist in.

      “What the hell is this?” screamed the billionaire.

      “Why that’s exactly what you asked for,” said the artist smugly.

      “No! I didn’t ask for a mural of pornographic filth, I asked for a mural of the interpretation of Custer’s last thoughts!”

      “And there you have it,” said the artist, “I call it, ‘Holy cow look at all those fucking Indians!'”

  6. Dante says:

    Our Federal Government recently accepted $1.9 billion from the bank HSBC as settlement of HSBC’s drug and terrorism-related money laundering. Our Federal Government says they couldn’t prosecute HSBC because they are “too big to fail”. More like “too rich to jail”, the feds only want money and if you have enough of it you can buy your freedom.

    If the feds can be prevented (via money) from prosecuting terrorists, drug cartels, their bankers, regulators who looked the other way, etc., because the prosecution would harm the economy, then they should announce that as policy:

    US Criminal Justice For Sale! Cheap!
    (Corporations Only)

    • allan says:

      nice parallel Dante…

      so, to sum up, medical cannabis gets Uncle’s big shaft but rich bankers laundering cartel and terrorist cash get a “Booyah!” and high five. Did I get that right? Tommy’s not the only one w/ a wicked uncle.

      • Dante says:

        Thanks for cleaning that idea up for me (due to genuine Irish ancestry and force of habit, an overabundance of alcohol and anger clouds my limited ability to express myself, leading to my confusing posts).

        • darkcycle says:

          Lemme guess, you’re like me. Most discussions when you were young ended in fisticuffs around your house. Mine too. Last one standing up won the debate.

  7. Duncan20903 says:


    The policies of the City of Oakland concerning medicinal cannabis vendors most certainly disproves the contentions of the anti medicinal cannabis goofball brigade. They’ve even got more Starbucks than dispensaries!

  8. Duncan20903 says:


    Let’s not sell Patrick Leahy short just yet:

    Leahy Suggests Hearing On Marijuana Legalization
    December 17, 2012

    Senator Patrick Leahy Friday announced his intention to hold a hearing on the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington, saying that “Legislative options exist to resolve the differences, but in order to give these options full consideration, the committee needs to understand how the administration intends to respond.”

    Both states legalized possession of up to once once of marijuana for personal use.

    Once once??

  9. darkcycle says:

    Oh hell yeah. Go Oakland!

  10. Duncan20903 says:


    It appears that Canada has decided to abrogate its participation in the Single Convention Treaty. As I pointed out yesterday the SCT requires Countries who want to allow medical use of the naughtiest substances on the naughty lists to produce and distribute those prescriptions. Why in the heck do some people so hate cultivation?

    Canada getting out of medical marijuana business

  11. Tony Aroma says:

    Doesn’t matter if they win or lose. It’s one more challenge to federal authority in the drug war. Every law suit, every vote against prohibition is one more brick in the wall. As more and more individuals and local/state governments line up against the feds, it gets harder and harder for them to justify their hard line prohibition stance. And it becomes more and more obvious who their “war” is really against. Hint, it ain’t drugs.

    • Duncan20903 says:


      It also shows that elected officials who aren’t ape shit bananas are reacting in exactly the way that the cannabis law reform advocates who invented the tax and regulate meme. Tax revenue to a politician is like crack to a crackhead.

  12. ezrydn says:


    My avatar is the 7th Cavalry crest, with whom I served in early Vietnam.

    Thanks for the laugh. That’s gone through my mind a couple of times.

    • claygooding says:

      We had 7th Cav somewhere close to us in Tahn Sohn Nyut(sp) and had a staging area where they unloaded the wounded and reloaded with supply’s,,,,it was way too busy sometimes and then wouldn’t see them for weeks.

      • claygooding says:

        I didn’t even recognize your patch,,but I had never seen one that had colors other than black and green.

      • darkcycle says:

        Clay and EZ, my best friend the late Ken Wainey served as a flight line security A.P. at Tong Sung Nhut. He was a dog handler, neither of you guys knew him perchance?

      • allan says:

        a word on that… a decade ago I was doing a side job turning a garage into an apartment. The home-owner husband was chit-chatting w/ me while I worked. I looked up at him while cutting a board on the table saw and stuck my right index finger straight into the moving blade.

        Long story short, nurse in the ER was my age (the home-owner was freaked by the injury and blood far more than I) and we talked like old friends as she smoothed up the ragged edges of the cut before sewing the finger back together. She mentioned she was a vet, I said me too. Asked her where… “oh, on an island in the Pacific,” she said, “I was a nurse back then too. We received the planeloads of wounded from VN.”

        My saw-cut finger literally faded into insignificance… and my love for good nurses (like good teachers and good waitresses) grew yet again…

  13. Duncan20903 says:

    Put down your beverage. This one is from the “res ipsa loquitur” category:
    Cop who got drunk to help teach police DUI class ends up arrested

  14. primus says:

    I like that; Significant facial injuries. Faceplant!!!

  15. ezrydn says:

    DC & Clay,

    Only at Than Son Nuet 1 day, passing through Camp Alpha. All my time spent roaming the Central Highlands, II Corps, around An Khe, Pleiku and Bong Son. It’s unfortunate that George A. didn’t have “firebases, TacAir or ARA.”

  16. kaptinemo says:

    The real poison pill, the one the Feds will move Heaven and Earth to avoid coming anywhere near, much less swallow:

    ” Oakland further contended that a stay would serve public interest, with minimal harm to the government. “Shuttering Harborside will injure patients by denying them the medical benefits of cannabis, a factor that favors a stay,” it said.

    “Despite the government’s refrain that cannabis has no medical benefit, the government’s own patents and scientific research reveal that the government believes in the medical efficacy of cannabis,” it added. “The government has sought exclusive ownership rights to cannabis compounds and their use by applying for and securing U.S. and international patents.” (Emphasis mine – k.)

    It’s said that “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”. That should be amended to read fools and drug prohibitionists.

    There it is. The petard that could hoist the entire Fed prohib apparatus into orbit. Going all the way back to the 1974 studies proving cannabis has anti-cancer properties. The inherent hypocrisy laid bare for all to see, not just reformers. Uncle’s deadly intransigence in refusing to research those anti-cancer properties is laying like a nuclear mine hidden amongst the conventional ones that the prohib’s ships are heading directly for.

    By all means, prohibs, full steam ahead. In fact, I’ll grant you ramming speed. Please ‘rush in’, I’m begging you…

  17. Jose says:

    We are not quite ready to legalize marijuana. A few thousand peasants need to be chased off their land near the international border and another 50-60 thousand Mexicans need to be murdered to get rid of some of the extremely poor. After we redistribute the land to our campaign contributors then we can seriously think about legalizing marijuana.

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