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I’ve got a number of commitments over the holidays so I’ll be in and out here. Yet there’s a whole lot going on, so everyone take shifts and keep active in comments, while having a wonderful, joyous, and safe holidays.

Plenty of eggnog in the fridge, spiced cider on the stove, and someone brought some fresh-baked sugar cookies with sprinkles. I think the fruitcake finally got tossed out last year.

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51 comments to Open Thread

  • Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere

    Merry Christmas, Pete!

    “But as of Tuesday, growing marijuana at home was legal, up to six plants per family and an annual harvest of 480 grams, or about one pound.”

    uruguay-marijuana-becomes-legal

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    • Howard

      The gift that keeps on giving (go Argentina!);

      http://tinyurl.com/kt5sn74

      Merry Christmas everybody.

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      • crut

        Look at the dominoes fall! I’m a kid again!

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        • Malc

          My mother was very poor and had to go back to work when I was just a few weeks old. For years, she would leave me with my gran, who was poorer still. The only thing in my gran’s house I was allowed to play with was a box of dominos. It could easily have gone the other way and turned me into a psycho domino-killer, but I love them too, and far more than anybody here could ever imagine :-)
          The suspense is doing my poor head in.

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    • Duncan20903

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      I never thought I’d see the day. Getting to watch the idiot prohibitionists reacting like decapitated chickens has made the whole ordeal almost worthwhile. (the keyword there is “almost”)

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  • curmudgeon

    Happy holidays to all my couchmates. May 2014 explode in legalization!

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    • Duncan20903

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      I’m not much of a “there ought to be a law” kind of guy but there ought to be a law that says that Calvina Fay shouldn’t be allowed to lie on christmas day. No need to argue about whether what she regurgitates is true with a codified “her lips were moving” per se standard. This one is from the “what color is the sky in your prohibitionist fantasy land?” category:

      Poll: Tampa Bay residents voice firm support for medical marijuana

      /snip/
      Calvina Fay, who runs an antidrug organization in St. Petersburg, attributes the poll results to insufficient information.

      “When people are educated on these ‘medicine by popular vote’ initiatives, their opinions swing in the other direction,” said Fay, executive director of Save Our Society from Drugs. “But regardless of whether one believes that street pot is medicine, when people examine the proposed amendment’s language closely, they reject it because it is fraught with so many loopholes and opportunities for abuse that would be very bad for Florida.”
      /snip/

      Darn it, didn’t Dorothy’s house land on and kill the Wicked Witch of the East? Are wicked witches like black market vendors, knock off one and there are three more wannabes ready to take over her duties?

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      • crut

        I saw that in the paper this morning. Front page news. Thankfully the Calvina quote was pushed off to page 6.

        Stubborn old broad. It’s not difficult to understand that if 2 people are given the same information, they may draw significantly different conclusions about what it means. The unfortunate truth is that literally HALF of people are below average intelligence. Along with that, I remember a prohibitch comment sometime earlier this year where someone said something like “The problem with the legalization movement is that there are too many smart people involved…”

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        • Duncan20903

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          I think that you’re using a couple of incorrect assumptions in your calculations which have led you to some mistaken conclusions. I just realized a couple of hours ago I had based my initial opinion on one of those same assumptions.

          It’s not difficult to understand that if 2 people are given the same information, they may draw significantly different conclusions about what it means

          That’s true as far as it goes. But what we missed is that only a subset of the population is able to confer with Ms. Fay without suffering extreme psychological trauma. So I have to withdraw my conclusion that she’s lying about that. She’s probably actually right that she’s been able to poison that subset of the population into being against the proposed ballot initiative.

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          Also that average intelligence math isn’t right crut. If you change it to “half the people were below the median intelligence” you would be correct.

          Let’s try an example using income. Start with a business that has a annual payroll liability of $1.45 million and 10 employees paid an average annual salary of $145,000.00

          That average is correct but meaningless. 9 of the individual employees at this hypothetical business earn a salary of $50,000 per year with the CEO being paid an annual salary of $1 million.

          It really is possible for the vast majority of the population to have lower than average intelligence. IMO that’s why it’s taken us so many decades to get them to understand that the epic failure of public policy which we call the absolute prohibition of cannabis is just plain stupid. So are they.

          The Florida campaign is going to be very interesting since it’s going to happen in the back yard of Calvina Fay and the Semblers. The very belly of the beast.

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        • Crut

          Duncan, I think I’d like to share a bag of volcano vapor with you some time!

          As far as the Florida campaign, I don’t have confidence in the Florida Supreme Court to vote favorably for us. The governments shadow money is being spent… they don’t see the inevitably coming 300MPH freight train. I hope they don’t realize until too late that they are sitting on the tracks.

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      • kaptinemo

        Whenever I see that phrase ‘educate the public’ being used by a prohib, I grind my back teeth to keep from emitting some choice observations.

        Of course, the prohib means indoctrinated, not educated. Education requires access to all sources of information, not just the proffered ones, so as to make an intelligent decision.

        Which is why cannabis law reform is experiencing such a groundswell; the very education I mentioned regarding cannabis has been taking place…to the detriment of the prohibs.

        It is an education only partly grounded in academics; most of it comes from simple observation. As a result, in no small part thanks to the Internet, intelligent, conscious decisions are being made every day, regarding the choice of cannabis over alcohol and tobacco and other drugs – a point which causes the economic backers of prohibition no end of sleepless nights.

        The public is has had enough indoctrination masked as education, and has, based on its’ own experiences with those doing the indoctrinating, been forced to educate itself. In so doing, the majority of the public, fed up with the lies it’s been told, is moving to end the necessity for telling those lies…and employing those who disseminate them.

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  • darkcycle

    Kids are already breaking toys, and I have a sea of wrapping paper to wade through to get to my coffee. Merry Christmas Pete, and to all my couch-mates, let’s fire up that Christmas tree….

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  • DonDig

    Merry Christmas Pete and mates. Happy Hempy New year as well.
    The world is turning over a new leaf. Yahoo!

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  • allan

    bless us all… each and every one.

    The house smells of a freshly baked (tho’ not from scratch, thanks Marie) pumpkin pie, just out of the oven. In a bit I’ll be cooking up some fresh cranberry sauce and later this morn I’ll do the turkey thing and damn but if I won’t smoke a bowl or 5 or 6 throughout the day.

    Many here been at this a while. But some stop by because Pete’s couch is easily found by anyone looking for any drug/drug policy related keywords. Pete’s a Googleable guy. So we get fresh blood cruising thru and to someone freshly entering the fray between Pete and his couch ‘taters there is a lot of info (and bad jokes) to be found in most any post and comments.

    So, in honor of the season and for those trying to find a place to sit, a few of this old man’s holiday faves, starting with our very own retelling of Dickens’ classic:

    http://www.adrugwarcarol.com/

    and because this time of year needs a few yucks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSH9ryRzHQ4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl700-j_7M

    and what Christmas could be complete w/o a Python’s Christmas in heaven:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmZYIyySxPE

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  • Duncan20903

    No, we still have the fruitcake. Don’t you remember that we used it to steady the couch’s wobble on Boxing Day 2012?

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    • allan

      that was it! I ‘member now, it was the most solid thing we could find (except my head and I nixed that option)

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  • claygooding

    My stomach is past full,,one eye is closed and someone just lit another one,,a buddy brought me a small hookah for Christmas and we finished off the FP out of WA state and Dark Gardens I had cured in it,,AWESOME..and it being my first Hookah in a long time I forgot how smooth it was and how that caused you to overload your lungs. that is why I am down to one eye,,,,

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  • DdC

    Nollaig Shona agus athbhliain faoi mhaise ú
    Buon Natale e nd un Felice Anno Nuovo
    Καλά Χριστούγεννα και nd Ευτυχισμένο το Νέο Έτος
    Merry Christmas ve nd Yeni Yılınız Kutlu Olsun
    Prettige Kerstdagen en nd een Gelukkig Nieuwjaar
    Frohe Weihnachten und nd ein gutes neues Jahr
    Feliz Navidad y nd un Feliz Año Nuevo
    Joyeux Noël et e une Bonne Année

    It’s finally official: Uruguay marijuana legalization bill signed into law
    DrugWarFacts.org ‏@DrugPolicyFacts #mmot #DrugWar

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  • DdC

    Maury Show ‏@sweetydoriti
    “The results are in… In the case of baby Jesus, Joseph, you are NOT the father!”

    Bill Maher ‏@billmaher
    Merry Xmas! This is the year atheists started meeting communally just like churchgoers! Let’s nip that shit right in the bud.

    Tommy Chong ‏@tommychong
    Merry Kushmas, tweeders…tc pic.twitter.com/YQDVT5gTl1

    Santa’s Red Mushrooms
    The Psychedelic Secrets of Santa Claus
    The True Spirits of an Old-Time Christmas
    Archaeology: Ancient Temple Hashish Incense! Did Jesus Inhale?

    Erowid Center ‏@Erowid
    ‘DEA agent leaves job for marijuana investment firm’ http://ow.ly/s3o8s

    ACLU National ‏@ACLU
    This mother misses her son every #Christmas bc of extreme sentencing. … #HomeForTheHolidays

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  • thelbert

    i’m confident that the brothers and sisters will keep christmas well, so merry christmas Pete and happy festivus Allan and everyone else that puts a dent in the couch. plenty of homegrown, a full belly and good freinds, that’s the best kind of christmas.

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  • DdC

    The Grower’s Night Before Christmas
    or “A Rescue from St. Nicholas”

    ‘Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the growroom
    Not a plant was still standing; not a bud was in bloom.
    The branches were drying, hung out in a line
    In hopes that a bankroll soon would be all mine
    The trimmers were ready to manicure buds;
    But meanwhile did nothing but drink up my suds.
    Didn’t matter to me; I still had my stash.
    And in just a few weeks I’d be swimming in cash.
    Then, at the front door, arose such a clatter,
    I stubbed out my joint to see what was the matter.
    Away down the hallway I flew like a flash,
    Looked out the window and let out a gasp.
    What to my wondering eyes did appear,
    A drug bust in progress with ten cops in SWAT gear!
    They came to the door and pounded away.
    It was worse than the cops; they were all DEA!

    Now I was panicked; I didn’t want blame
    I yelled at the trimmers and called them by name:
    “Now, Jeremy! Now, Jason! Now Pedro and Dale!
    Get out of here, dudes, or you’re going to jail!
    To the back porch! To the top of the wall!
    Now dash away! Dash away, dash away all!”
    They took off like rabbits, hightailing it fast.
    I now worried greatly about saving my ass.
    The cops were now breaking the door down with force.
    The plants gotta go, I thought with remorse.
    I ran to the fireplace to burn up my crop,
    When suddenly St. Nicholas dropped down with a plop.
    “Holy shit! It’s Santa!” I said with surprise.
    I wondered, could St. Nick tell the cops a few lies?

    Police were now swarming through the front door
    And screaming at me to “Lie down on the floor!”
    But Santa winked slyly and settled my head,
    And soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
    He spoke not a word, and made not a sound
    Just filled up his toy sacks with all of my pounds.
    And laying his finger aside of his nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;
    He sprang to his sleigh, taking all of my crop.
    Regardless, I’m happy I didn’t get popped.
    The cops were all pissed; the evidence was gone.
    They couldn’t even bust me for having a bong!
    I laughed to myself as they drove out of sight —
    “That’s the best present ever on this Christmas night!”

    How the #Weed Delivery Guy Saved #Christmas

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  • DdC

    The Time Boston Banned Christmas
    by: Erik van Rheenen December 10, 2013

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  • Good article by syndicated columnist George Will- “Drug war’s sledgehammer justice” about mandatory minimum sentences. http://tinyurl.com/mdawp77

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  • Duncan20903

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    Doggone it, this post was intended to be in this space. Comments are open, sic her. (or is that sick her?)

    Here’s an example of how to lie with statistics: It’s an annual event, every Christmas my sister-in-law gives everyone in the family a half interest in a Powerball ticket. So sure enough I found myself the proud half owner of a classic example of something not worth the value of the paper on which it was printed. Had I stopped at the 7-11 and bought 5 more I would have increased my chance of winning by 500%! Yet I still won’t have the proverbial snowball’s chance of winning. Think about that the next time a “scientific” study says that choosing to enjoy cannabis raises your chance of suffering [hysterical rhetoric] by _00%

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  • And you thought last year was good

    The petition for the legalization of cannabis reaches the Moroccan parliament.

    “Mediane added that this bill also seeks to “end the suffering of farmers” who are dedicated to the cultivation of this plant, as the vast majority of them are. The bill implies in particular parts of the areas of Al Hoceima, Taounate, Chau, Uazán and Tetouan in the north and northwest of Morocco, which has one of the largest growing areas in the world of cannabis. Also, the bill provides for the creation of agricultural cooperatives, and a national agency as the sole competent authority to supervise the cultivation, production and marketing of this plant, and provides penalties for all illicit production of cannabis than for therapeutic or industrial purposes.”

    -la-legalizacion-del-cannabis-llega-al-Parlamento-marroqui-

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  • stlgonzo

    Good year end piece by Jacob Sullum

    The 5 Best Drug Scares of 2013
    Caffeine conniptions, lethal LSD, pot-smoking punks, vaping vapors, and devouring dope

    http://tinyurl.com/kfbtgvq

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  • darkcycle

    The Huff Post confronts a very real, looming crisis: With pot legal, how will the prison industry fill it’s cells? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daryl-rowland/with-marijuana-legal-new-_b_4338507.html?utm_hp_ref=comedy

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    • War Vet

      Some driving offenses and those owing money will suffice for the government. Maybe we can transform the buildings for something good . . . a large store chain or mall even. We could use them to store prohibitionists in -give them plenty of hemp paper to write their arguments as to why it should still be illegal and all . . . reform them by making them grow hemp for the prison industrial complex. Hempseed gruel all day and night for meals.

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  • strayan

    What a surprise:

    Restricting cold meds isn’t working http://www.decaturdaily.com/opinion/editorials/article_770cce6e-6ced-11e3-9c8c-10604b9f6eda.html?TNNoMobile

    …but hang on… according to Keith Humphrey’s this strategy is working, you just have to pretend that decreases in domestic production was the original and only goal. In other words: redefine success. Apparently these laws were never designed to reduce methamphetamine use, just stop Americans burning their house down (nevermind that production just shifts to Mexico): http://www.samefacts.com/2013/11/drug-policy/the-changing-politics-of-eliminating-methamphetamine-labs/

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  • Servetus

    Those crazy Swedes are at it again. A seven-kilo shipment of weed on a train from Copenhagen got nabbed by Swedish cops. The courier claimed it was “grass” for her lawn. Her brother-in-law’s fingerprints were all over the courier bag. He claimed he had handled the bag thinking it at first to be trash. Both were sentenced to 2 yrs 3 mos.

    The moral of the story is: always fabricate more imaginative and entertaining excuses than these guys so you don’t insult the court’s intelligence and piss off the sentencing judge .

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  • DdC

    From: @TransformDrugs Debating *whether* to legalize pot is pretty pointless. The important debate now is *how* to legalize it. http://bit.ly/1c6xQJs
    By: Mark A.R. Kleiman @MarkARKleiman

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    • Crut

      “And for any state looking for how to do it, I’m your man with the most experience! My fee is…” –Drug reform profiteer

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      • kaptinemo

        I think the bitter taste he’s left in WA State’s mouth has pretty much precluded anyone else making that mistake.

        He took them for almost a million. You have to wonder how many school lunches that might have bought…especially in light of the fact that’s the best meal of the day for some kids.

        I’d sooner have asked celibate priests about how to have a happier sex life than ask an avowed prohib how to set up a legal cannabis market. It makes exactly as much sense, that is to say, none at all.

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  • DdC

    German Study: Marijuana-Based Medications Relieve Pain;
    No Problem Driving While Medicated.
    http://bit.ly/1g4VQ16
    @itsjustaplant@tokesignals pic.twitter.com/cvkqQnrQ10

    Cannabis use and Driving
    Cannabis Users Are Safer Drivers Than Non-Users

    Kerli’s doing American’s harm in the name of stealing liberty to protect the now orphaned kids. Paid by taxes. Policy coming out of Americans Favorite Faith Based Thimk Tanks.

    Meanwhile as the Sheriff and his posse probe citizens for hidden doobies: “domestic abuse is the largest cause of morbidity in women aged 19-44, greater than war, cancer & motor vehicle accidents”

    Seems one could say the largest cause of morbidity in women aged 19-44, greater than war, cancer & motor vehicle accidents. Is their “intimate relationships” don’t smoke pot.

    Domestic violence
    Domestic violence is defined by the World Health Organization (WHO) the world health organization, that’s who.as any behavior within an intimate relationship that causes physical, psychological or sexual harm.

    NFL’s Buzzkill
    Following a string of violent incidents – including a pair of stabbings – between rowdy football fans during the team’s previous games, Giants Stadium officials made the bold move to halt sales of the intoxicant. The rationale for the ban? Jets spokesman Ron Colangelo could not have been more blunt: “It’s for the safety of our fans.”

    Alcohol’s long-standing association with aggressive behavior, whether it’s among raucous sports fans or late-night bar patrons, is well-publicized and much debated. Yet, a relevant fact that is often overlooked in this public discourse is that an alternative, almost equally consumed intoxicant, is rarely, if ever, linked with violence – – marijuana. However, unlike alcohol, marijuana is illegal and not only at Giants Stadium.

    Cannabis Helps Keep Fans Calm
    Police also claimed that the availability of cannabis in the Netherlands probably helped to defuse any violence. Scores of ticketless England fans gathered in coffee shops in Eindhoven, where cannabis is sold and smoked, to watch the game, greeting the defeat with mild disappointment and unusually, gentle applause. “It (cannabis) may have helped relax them,” Mr Beelan added. “Even the hooligans enjoyed the party – and they told our officers. There were lots of things for fans to do and everybody had a good time.”

    PTSD Sufferers Qualify for Medical Marijuana

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    • War Vet

      I want to know how the DEA are disproving the events of the 2008 Mumbai attack? The last time I checked: giving away large sums of money to a known terrorist sect usually indicates that those giving the money away were indeed terrorists themselves (ignorance is one thing, but knowing is another). I would say that the events occurring in India during 2008 confirmed that the DEA were technically aligned with and a part of a Radical Islamic Jihad group . . . utilizing David and knowledge of his past means it was not a coincidence. It has been confirmed by a series of facts: if a nuclear bomb was going to go off as a consequence of the DEA utilizing someone, then said bomb’s destruction is collateral damage in the pursuit of prohibiting drugs and the DEA approve of such an act as evident in what happened in India. This has long been the case since it was discovered that a link between prohibited drugs creating the kind of drug money needed when buying black market nuclear weapons/ingredients (as seen in the 9/11 Commission Report). Just look at what the DEA have done to Syria: enabled drug money armed radicals to spread fear to the locals and other rebels . . . the DEA are the reason why we have thousands of troops in Africa . . . if drug money exists, then the DEA are 100% responsible for what drug money purchases. If we cannot legally jail and execute hundreds of DEA agents, then we’ll have completely neglected justice and damned future generations.

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      • War Vet

        Would life in prison be better for the DEA? Drug laws allow treason if treason supposedly gets the desired results (or supposed to). But, if the agents were jailed, America could document and tell the stories of the agents in their holding cells . . . constantly reminding society why they are there. Would ultimate forgiveness be a good thing (even after some of their time is done)?

        Not 48hrs ago, I had just exited my makeshift wind cover ala Mother Nature, out in the park. I had the dog and had the pipe (empty now as was the dog’s bladder). I noticed the Po’s car to my side: 30yrds off. I walked off never once looking at him. I don’t believe they walked towards my area and had they, I’m sure the wind would have taken the aroma away. To make it worse: I was listening to my ‘Foster the People’ album and his song about getting arrested and hands cuffed began to play as I walked off. Thank God he had better things to do.

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  • And you thought this last year was good

    It’s only a glitch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMMyVKm9BjM

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  • DdC

    * Petitioning Jay Nixon
    Missouri Governor Jay Nixon: Give clemency to Jeff Mizansky who is serving life without parole for minor marijuana conviction. Jeff has served 20 years

    Vincent jennings ‏@vincentjennings
    Need 16 more signatures on Free Jeff Mizanskey petition to President Obama and Governor Nixon to make 1200… http://fb.me/6vJuhR1OL

    Jodie Emery ‏@JodieEmery
    Files prove Marc targeted for funding legalization: “DEA Admit Emery’s Arrest Was Political”

    Marc’s goal: “Plant the Seeds of Freedom to Overgrow the Government” using seeds & money. He was very successful & essential

    Many US states have medical marijuana/legalization/decrim laws because of Marc’s $ and millions grew medicine to live better

    Marc was very smart – he raised millions of dollars to finance legalization for decades before anyone else, & provided seeds.

    If what Marc did was illegal in Canada, where his actions all took place, he should have been charged in Canada, not the USA

    But Marc never went to the USA. How can a citizen be charged & face life imprisonment in a foreign country he never went to?

    Reeks of Injustice and Mocks Our Sovereignty
    Emery to be Taken Into Custody
    Drug Czar is Required by Law to Lie
    Marc Emery in Solitary Confinement in US Prison
    A Drug Warmongers Toll on Americans
    Boycott Radio Shack a TP Tandy Corporation!

    VICE ‏@VICE
    “The most ridiculous notion civilians have about the legal system is that people are ‘innocent until proven guilty.'” http://bit.ly/1cFtYln

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    • DdC

      More Incremental News

      Drug Policy Alliance ‏@DrugPolicyNews
      California’s Attorney General says Marijuana Legalization Would Save Calif. “Hundreds of Millions” http://bit.ly/1caLj2X

      Russ Belville ‏@RadicalRuss
      Washington Nixes Pot Smoking in Bars http://shar.es/OLWiX

      Hemp News ‏@RestoreHemp
      The first customer in January will be Sean Azzariti, a Denver-based Iraq war veteran who can now legally use… http://fb.me/1dA1nt5og

      John Ingold ‏@john_ingold
      Several Denver marijuana stores jumped through the last hoop Friday to open for recreational sales on Jan. 1.

      Ryan Parker ‏@ryanparkerdp
      The Times They Are a-Changin’.
      The first ever recreational pot-sales ad in The Denver Post.

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    • DdC

      Aimee Shuman ‏@AimeeShuman
      How #Marijuana Prohibition Become Part Of US Policy and How It Will Be Legal Again http://fus.in/1daOQiH

      Don’t Rush Recreational Marijuana in California

      Washington D.C.’s Strict MMJ Law Keeps Demand Low

      Sensible Drug Policy ‏@SSDP
      Take Action | Help Us End the Ban on the Use of Federal Funds for Syringe Services Programs! |… http://fb.me/16Lq8uJXZ

      Drug Policy Alliance ‏@DrugPolicyNews
      The 2013 Year in Drugs ‘Hot List’ http://bit.ly/19nOxN2
      Here are 10 stories that raised eyebrows and got people talking this year:

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      • Windy

        I oppose the use of government taxpayers’ funds for ANYTHING other than the actual costs of government (building maintenance, salaries of employees, etc.). It is unconstitutional for government to take money from citizens for anything else, it doesn’t matter if it is charitable use, foreign aid, grants to science or the arts, it is ALL unconstitutional. http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/davy-crockett-and-public-money/

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        • Duncan20903

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          Windy, what about the annual interest that our government has to pay to the lenders of the squandered public money that it had to borrow to squander? Gosh, just what was squandered directly to perpetuate the idiocy of the war on (some) drugs has left us with annual interest payments in excess of $50 billion per year. That’s not even counting the indirect expenses like military aid and training that we’ve provided to the governments all over the world to bribe them into aligning their interests with that of the prohibitionists?

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        • Windy

          Duncan, I was opposed to ALL the bailouts and all the banking “laws” that were passed and implemented which allowed sky high interest rates on credit cards and the the requirement to opt-out, rather than to-opt in to all sorts of scams. I am opposed to congress having shirked their Constitutional duty to be wholly in charge of money and delegating that duty to the privately owned Fed.

          The government would never have needed to keep borrowing money if it hadn’t kept straying outside the Constitutional limits supposedly imposed upon it by that document — making wars on countries that never attacked us, using taxpayers’ money to buy votes with entitlements, giving grants and loans and interfering in the free market thereby fucking up the economy, making war on our own citizens via the prohibition 2.0 and the “war on terror”.

          I say it is past time for Americans to demand the government be well and truly constrained by the Constitution again, and to charge, try, convict, and imprison all those in government who are in any way connected to any program or statute which is unconstitutional while emptying the prisons of all those who are there due to unconstitutional statutes (made up laws that do not violate anyone’s rights). I can feel the pressure building as more people come to this realization about our government’s threat to our freedom and lives and i just hope we can make the transition without a bloody revolution.

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        • Duncan20903

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          I quit the Libertarian Party in 2008 because true Libertarianism would have just waved bye-bye while our economy swirled the bowl. By that time there just wasn’t any options except to pump money into the economy. If you think inflation is annoying you should try living in a deflationary spiral.

          I would have done it much differently than the bail out scheme but I most certainly wouldn’t have stood by and watched the creation of a depression which could have made both the Long Depression and the Great Depression look like a friggin’ walk in the park. The interest on that debt is a very reasonable expense. The interest caused by the war on (some) drugs not at all.

          The Federal Reserve is not privately owned and I don’t do conspiracy theories. I’ve worked with enough alpha dogs to know that they’d much rather slit the throats of their competition than conspire with them.

          Didn’t you here that Jamie Dimon CEO of JP Morgan Chase was recently introduced to baloney on stale white bread?

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  • DdC

    Russ Belville ‏@RadicalRuss
    More drinkers are diagnosed w/psychosis (36.7%) than alcoholism (29.3%) or cirrhosis (25.1%) http://rad-r.us/19t56Y4 But pot’s the loco weed?

    Using Pot To Save Brains!

    The Symptoms, Side Effects or Collateral Damage of Incremental Retardation.

    Medical Marijuana Activists Arrested In Alabama; Bond Set At $1 Million

    When leaders act contrary to conscience
    “Our youth can not understand why society chooses to criminalize a behavior with so little visible ill effect or adverse social impact… These young people have jumped the fence and found no cliff. And the disrespect for the possession laws fosters a disrespect for laws and the system in general… On top of this is the distinct impression among the youth that some police may use the marihuana laws to arrest people they don’t like for other reasons, whether it be their politics, their hair style or their ethnic background.” “Federal and state laws (should) be changed to no longer make it a crime to possess marijuana for private use.” ; “State laws should make the public use of marijuana a criminal offense punishable by a $100 fine. Under federal law, marijuana smoked in public would merely be subject to seizure.”
    ; President Richard M. Nixon’s National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse
    “Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding” March 1972

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  • John

    Our good buddy Sheriff Joe Arpaio could use our help. He’s only getting 6% of the vote so far for Racist of the Year over at the Daily Kos website.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/29/1262680/-2013-Racism-retrospective-and-Racist-of-the-Year-nominees?

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