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The War on Drugs – Versus Debate

There’s a new thing called Versus Debates through Google and Youtube, and they’re kicking things off on March 13 at 7 pm GMT (which is 2 pm EST) with “The War on Drugs.”

Watch the live debate here on Tuesday 13th March, 7pm GMT. Richard Branson, Russell Brand, Julian Assange, Eliott Spitzer, Vincente Fox, and many more, will be locking horns on this age defining question.

This could be interesting. Mark your calendars.

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12 comments to The War on Drugs – Versus Debate

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  • claygooding

    Joe Biden is headed to South America to discuss the drug war with all those sensible leaders calling for an end to it.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/vp-biden-goes-to-latin-american-amid-drug-debate/article_9891e015-d8e3-5327-b518-c57c71034fbe.html

    “”Vice President Joe Biden heads to Latin America this Sunday amid unprecedented pressure from political and business leaders to talk about something U.S. officials have no interest in debating: decriminalizing drugs.

    Presidents of Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, Colombia and Mexico, all grappling with the extremely violent fallout of a failing drug war, have said in recent weeks they’d like to open up the discussion of legalizing drugs. Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Mexico already allow the use of small amounts of marijuana for personal consumption, while political leaders from Brazil and Colombia are discussing alternatives to locking up drug users.””

    Since he is one of the authors of the ONDCP re-authorization act he is definitely a drug warrior/

    • darkcycle

      Yeah, leaves no doubt as to what message he’s carrying.

    • Jeffrey Dhywood’s petition Support Guatemalan president’s call for drug legalization was at 600 when I signed the other day and now over 1300… if you haven’t please do – and pass it on to your lists and friends (and mom and dad for you kids!)

      Biden’s trip… is somebodies gettin’ nervous?

    • Windy

      He’s more than the author of the ONDCP re-authorization act, he was the author of the act (and the one who bulldozed it through congress) that created the ONDCP in the first place. And people blame the GOP for the drug war, but Democrats have just as many rabid prohibitionists among their ranks as the GOP does (and, being a libertarian, I am no apologist for the GOP on this issue or any other).

  • darkcycle

    I’m gonna sign up and get in there I suppose. I noticed you need to sing up for google plus in order to participate. While the debate runs, you can signal your pleasure with a “mood meter”. Stupid. There is, however, a separate google plus comments page and it’s been running for a little bit. And they are throwing red meat out there for US (legalization proponents)to come and bite, just link to the page and have a look. They apparently think they know who their targets are…hmmmm.
    They’re out there on Pete’s lawn, trying to get us to come out and fight. Okay. My fight’s not really on google, but if I gotta whup you guys to get to my real goal, so be it.

  • Duncan20903

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    One of the biggest rocks on the road to cannabis law reform is that the prohibitionists are willing to bald faced lie to promote their agenda. Their willingness to ignore facts and evidence is simply off the scale extreme. How does one effectively debate a cohort of people who simply insist that they’re correct?

    This one is from the lies, damn lies, and statistics category:

    Medical marijuana, prescriptions boost number of drug DUIs in Mesa
    By Garin Groff
    Friday, March 2, 2012 7:00 am

    Mesa police are arresting more drivers for drug impairment, saying prescription drug abuse and Arizona’s medical marijuana law are contributing to the problem.

    Drug DUIs now make up a majority of impaired driving arrests in Mesa for the first time. The number of drug-impaired drivers has grown for years but it has spiked more recently, said Mesa Sgt. David Miecke. Fifty-two percent of DUIs issued last year in the city were for drugs, he said.
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    Marijuana impairment has grown over time, he said. But it accelerated as Arizona was debating the 2010 ballot measure that legalized medical marijuana, and boomed after its success, he said.
    /snip/

    Marijuana can impair driving for a day or more after use, he said.
    /snip/

    “To think that we’re not doing something about it or to think you might be able to get away with it, that’s a fallacy,” Miecke said. “Seventeen hundred went away to jail last year here in Mesa for DUI drugs.”
    /snip/

    Something must be particularly screwy in Mesa Arizona.

    • Duncan20903

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      In 2011, More than Half of DUIs were Drug-Related
      Mesa Police call medical marijuana a factor
      Updated: Friday, 02 Mar 2012

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      [Mesa Police Commander] Peters says drug-related DUI’s have gone up over the years, but spiked in 2010 during the medical marijuana ballot debate.

      /snip/
      Peters says those aren’t the only numbers that have gone up.

      Every state that’s seen medical marijuana and other issues has seen an increase in crashes and fatalities and its not just medical marijuana, its pharmaceutical drug abuse in general.”

      Wow, that’s scary. The man is willing to lie through his teeth to promote his agenda. Perhaps I should give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that he’s saying what he actually believes. That would mean he’s a dithering idiot.

      Above I asserted that there’s something screwy in Mesa (population 439,041) Arizona (population 6,482,505). 6.773% of Arizona’s population resides in Mesa. But if “Seventeen hundred went away to jail [in 2011]” in Mesa then at least 57.413% of Arizona’s “drugged” driving convictions occurred there as the State registered 2,961 arrests for “drugged” driving. With 27,125 total DUIs in 2011 that means that 10.916% of the State’s arrests were for DUI-d. If we were to play similar statistical games we could point out that the Statewide percentage of “drugged” driving was 17.982% of total DUI arrests. See chart at bottom of article for Statewide statistics. Statistics compiled by the Governor’s Office of Highway Safety.

      Like I said, there’s something screwy in Mesa. I think it’s because the Mesa police are bald faced liars but that’s just my opinion.

      • claygooding

        No comments were allowed when I saw the article yesterday,,so I figure he is perpetuating propaganda,,who better to get for that than an active LEO?

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  • darkcycle

    I haven’t even typed a single comment on that Google Plus forum and I’m already irritated by the format. What are you supposed to do? …keep two separate tabs open during the debate, so you can flip back and forth between the comment stream and the debate? The moderators seem prepared to take up the prohibitionist side, since they keep tossing prohibitionist rhetoric at the wall just to provoke a response, so what…are we debating them, in addition to the prohibitionists in the webcast debate? They seem prepared with canned arguments and video clips to throw little molotov cocktails of distraction.
    I’m not so sure about this format…seems too contrived.

  • I couldn’t catch the debate yesterday, where and how was it even broadcast and can it be viewed later? I thought it was going to be streamed via YouTube — did that happen and is there a recording up somewehere?