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The Cliff Kincaid Show

I can’t help myself. These pieces are comedy gold. And now Cliff has turned out his third in a relatively short time on drug policy, and this one is amazing.

This time, he’s gleefully reacting to the recent Christian Science Monitor piece that strangely lauds Drug Czar Kerlikowske for his speech to a Police Chiefs Association.

Here’s what’s hilarious. Because the Drug Czar, when talking to Police Chiefs, said he opposed legalization, this is somehow a bold and courageous step by Kerlikowske, putting him “on a collision course with Holder and perhaps Obama himself” and providing “a tremendous setback” to us drug policy reformers.

This has to be perceived as a tremendous setback for Nadelmann and the rich liberals, led by George Soros and Peter Lewis, who have financed the drug legalization and “medical marijuana” movements. The Kerlikowske speech constitutes belated recognition that the drug wars south of the border are inexorably linked to the growing use of marijuana in California, where some of the same Mexican drug gangs are planting and harvesting their crop.

Um… Any argument that the drug wars south of the border are linked to marijuana sales in the States is a clear argument for legalization.

Oh, wait, I think he’s going to call us rich again.

Despite the wake-up call from Obama’s own Drug Czar, the well-financed movement to legalize dope continues on many fronts. On Thursday, March 18, Joyce Nalepka, former President of Nancy Reagan’s favorite charity, the National Federation of Parents for Drug-Free Youth, will testify in hearings before the Maryland State Legislature in Annapolis. She says that Maryland Senate Bill SB 627 would allow use of marijuana under the guise of “medicine.”

It’s a medical marijuana bill. It would allow the use of marijuana as medicine, which it is.

Thursday will mark the ninth time Nalepka has testified on this issue in Maryland. “There is nothing new to say, except the marijuana that kids are using today is so much more potent, they refer to it as ‘Skunk.’ Eighteen nations, including the U.S., now link ‘Skunk’ marijuana to depression, psychosis and schizophrenia,” she says.

Who calls it skunk here? I thought that was a British thing.

Now here’s where Kincaid’s prose becomes a thing of beauty. Note the heightened drama, the detachment from reality.

On the national level, supported by Soros and Lewis, then-candidate Barack Obama adopted the soft-on-drugs approach. As President, his Attorney General Eric Holder decided to withhold federal resources from the war on drugs in California, at least as they apply to the growing “medical marijuana” program. But that was before a psychotic pothead named John Patrick Bedell came all the way from California with a “medical marijuana” card and opened fire on the entrance to the Pentagon, wounding two guards before getting killed himself.

Ironically, on the same day that Bedell was preparing his assault, Kerlikowske was getting ready to speak to the California Police Chiefs Association Conference in San Jose, California. His topic: “Why Marijuana Legalization Would Compromise Public Health and Public Safety.” The speech was so powerful, in terms of the facts he presented about the problems associated with marijuana, including “medical marijuana,” that it is somewhat shocking to consider that he has a job in the Obama Administration.

Shocking, I tell you! Of course, in fact, Kerlikowske’s speech was nothing special — the re-hash of the same stuff that’s been said a million times before, and is mostly wrong or irrelevant.

Predictably, Kerlikowske is being attacked by the illegal drug lobby. The Peter Lewis-funded Marijuana Policy Project called his speech “supremely uneducated.”

Like John Patrick Bedell, the potheads won’t rest until society recognizes their right to smoke, grow and even worship pot. Do they have an ally in President Obama? “Yes we Cannabis!” they say.

But the public, concerned about a generation literally going to pot under a President who inhaled and liked it, may have something to say about that.

With all the criticism of Obama’s various “Czars,” at least one of them, Gil Kerlikowske, has taken a bold stand that is out of step with what Obama’s “progressive” base has been demanding. It will be interesting to see how long he lasts.

Wow.

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32 comments to The Cliff Kincaid Show

  • permanentilt

    It was Bloomberg who “liked it”, Obama merely understood that it “was the point”.

    lol

  • Dano

    “Eighteen nations, including the U.S., now link ‘Skunk’ marijuana to depression, psychosis and schizophrenia,” she says.”

    The reason for the reaction is very evident. Nobody wants their pot to smell like a skunk! Walk into a house where they’ve opened a bag of “skunk” and it will smell like a skunk is there in the house somewhere. Nobody wants that!!!

  • ezrydn

    “But the public….may have something to say about that.”

    Yes, Cliff, they just may do that. Have you taken the pulse of “The Public” in a while? So, now we’re down to name calling. Isn’t that a loser’s reaction just before the finish? November’s getting closer and closer, Cliff. What then? Bad mouth the public you so dearly want to save? That’s “CROW,” Cliff. Medium or well?

  • Imarealist2

    Does Cliff Kincaid actually have something new or relevant to say about cannabis prohibition? It all reads like more repetitive propaganda spewed out to justify continuing one of our nation’s most ruinous policies. Cannabis prohibition is the ‘Gateway Policy’ that lead organized crime to switch from bootlegging to cannabis trafficking when the Volstead act was rightly repealed. This same poorly thought through prohibition policy exposes cannabis seekers to hard core drugs pushed by drug dealers. Prohibition makes it easier for minors to buy cannabis, too. Because, drug dealers don’t card for age. The only thing prohibition successfully does is prohibit regulation & taxation. Mr Kincaid should be proud he’s pushing a policy that’s so counter productive & such a self-fulfilling disaster.

  • claygooding

    Sent an email too Kincaid,thanking him for his support of the prohibition and the cartels.

    “Thank you for your support of the cartels and the continued killing of innocent people in Mexico. Without
    the relentless ranting of individuals keeping the prohibition of marijuana in place,the cartels can continue taking over 100 billion dollars out of America and buying guns,equipment,corruption on both sides of the border and they can continue selling their drugs to school children.
    The legalization of marijuana would remove 70% of the cartels cash flow,reducing their ability to wage war in Mexico and the money being spent by the drug czar enforcing,prosecuting and imprisoning marijuana users would be enough to pay for the updating of the educational system.
    With your continued support of the cartels we can insure that our children don”t receive an education that will prepare them for life and raise their potential earning power.
    Again,thank you.
    Not that it will do any good,but you never know what will open someones eyes until you try.

  • Matthew Meyer

    I do like that slogan, “Yes we Cannabis!” That’s pretty good, I say we use it.

  • kant

    Peter,

    There is a strain called “skunk” and there are a number of cross strains (and copycats) and part of the popular naming scheme is to also merge the name of the two strains being crossed.

    Although you are correct in that skunk and it’s various spin-offs are much more popular and prevalent in the UK.

  • claygooding

    We have called any pot that smells like someone ran over a skunk when they pull it out of their pocket. Of course,in Texas,we don’t have a large majority of people that want to act like connoisseurs or impress people with how many syllables are in the name of the marijuana we smoke. We just smoke pot. And usually,the pot we get costs about $5
    a syllable,so we tend to stay with short names on our smoke,like “good shit” or “dynamite weed” if its more than $25 a quarter ounce. But the people around this country are welcome too pay whatever price they want for their smoke,it’s all in your hands too regulate prices.
    Their was an effort recently to go up for the brick here.but when most reduced their quantity instead of paying more,it came back down.

  • Jon Doe

    “studies now link ‘Skunk’ marijuana to depression, psychosis and schizophrenia”

    I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: as someone who has schizophrenia and who is the son and grandson of women with schizophrenia, I find it highly offensive to suggest that it is a mental disorder that you can simply “catch” from using a drug. It is a genetic condition. Most schizophrenics smoke tobacco (I read somewhere something like 80% of US schizophrenics do), yet never have I heard it suggested that it is the tobacco causing the disorder.

  • claygooding

    Kincaid’s answer:
    Norman: you have been toking too much

    Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  • claygooding

    My response:
    “Actually,I have quit for the present time. And your spewing of propaganda put out by the drug czar does underwrite the violence in Mexico,whether intentionally or by accident. The drug czar has a 15 billion dollar budget that is mostly justified by marijuana prohibition,so I can understand his reason for continuing it,but can find no logic in your stance. Do you receive large check from some guy in Juarez named Pedro,or are you a volunteer idiot?”

    Will not post any more of this discussion with Kincaid untill he quits responding,then will post all reponses.

  • DdC

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    “Casual drug users should be taken out and shot.”
    ~ Daryl DARE Gates – Former LAPD Chief

  • Just me

    “She says that Maryland Senate Bill SB 627 would allow use of marijuana under the guise of “medicine.”

    LOL! I about blew snot out my nose on that one.
    Who the hell needs a “guise” to smoke cannabis? We can walk down the street to the local dealer and get all we want, Hello ! We dont need it to be legal or medical dumasses!

    “There is nothing new to say, except the marijuana that kids are using today is so much more potent, they refer to it as ‘Skunk.’ Eighteen nations, including the U.S., now link ‘Skunk’ marijuana to depression, psychosis and schizophrenia,” she says.

    LOL ! Shunk was an “80’s” Term , no one I know of calls it that. Just goes to show how far behind the public they are.The only thing giving me psychosis is idiots believing everything our leaders tell them …URRRRR! And as for potencey? Well it like this , You smoke less LADY! Just like alcohol , drink 3 beers or one shot of jack , same effect. Wakeup….oh who the hell am I yelling at? A dimwit !

    Oh And lady…GIL IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO LIE! GET THAT?

    Oh hell…I shut down my cable services because I was tired of yell at the TV…Now Im yelling at the internet …just great…THANKS LADY !

    I dont get paid to do this!
    And I really wish I would see a big fat check for all this reform activisim Im doing !Fact is I started doing this before I found sites like Petes, like MPP.

    For those that dont know and would like too. I do this because I watched loved ones die not of the cancer they had but, due to the drugs they were pumped full of…their bodies gave out before the cancer had a chance to kill them. I want the government to get the hell out of the way so we can find out yes/ no cannabis can treat and/or kill cancer cells. I want the ruining of American lives to stop , I want the violence to stop. So please , stand in my way and give me your ridiculous, stupid ,close-minded arguements for not ending prohibition and doing my above stated goals ! And Ill give you a mirror and show the very person causing all this pain and suffering LADY!

    My apologies to those posting and reading here ,I’m just not tolerating idoicy well today.

  • Just me

    By the way I happen to like the smell of skunk….at a far distance or in Cannabis.Guess its just that the smell brings back times past of good times and joyful moments when I still smoked.. Ya I know ,dont need to say it.

  • it seems there was an uproar too back in da day when “sinsemilla” hit the market. Heck every once-in-awhile one of those $10 ounces of Mescan would be sinsemilla (spanish for w/o seeds) Whatever… potent pot has always been here. It’s a camp follower…

  • kaptinemo

    The prohibs are notorious for echo-chambering each other to the point they become incoherent. All they ever hear is themselves.

    This business about ‘skunk’ is a British tabloid invention to boost subscriptions that have been flagging of late thanks to the ‘Internets’. As someone who’d been the Netherlands in the 1980’s as a soldier and again in 1996 as a tourist, I can say that it really is hype, like the hype about ‘BC Bud’.

    (I was let down at the Toker’s Bowls in 2003 and 2004, as I had figured there’d be something to all that hullaballoo, and when I got there I was presented with, frankly, well-manicured mediocrity. All that money and all that travel and all that hassle for something that I could have had right here, and cheaper. Very disappointing.)

    The best stuff I ever had came from Humboldt, right here in the US of A, and it smelled more like a pine forest than any poor road-kill Mephitis Mephitica I ever saw by the roadside. ‘Skunk’ my country arse…

    As to perennial ‘testilyer’ Joyce Nalepka, the Maryland Legislature twice had her politely but firmly pitched out. The legislators have her number, but it’s more likely that she calls them rather than the other way around.

    Because they are also hearing the rumbling of the groundswell that’s rising under their feet as the legalization issue gathers momentum. A lot of them realize, if only from a ‘lizard brain’ survival orientation, that if they want to keep their jobs, they better listen to that rumbling rather than the isolated and off-tune shrieking of control-freak ‘Grandmas’ like dear Joyce.

    Because what Joyce and her ilk represent is nothing less than another ‘special interest’ seeking to drain the coffers of the State like most lobbyists. And that it’s becoming more and more clear as time goes on that fiscal triage is needed as it pertains to fiscal matters at the State level. And what the prohibs want the State can no longer afford to spend on.

    Of course, Joyce and her ilk are welcome to financially support the DrugWar with their own non-tax contributions all they like. I figure that if they were to combine their actual resources, not counting that of the taxpayer’s money that they lobby for, but putting their own money on the line, the time it would take to completely exhaust their own funds would be somewhere in the microsecond range. So fast an eye-blink would appear to take a year.

    So, by all means, DrugWarriors, feel free to use your own money…but lay off of my tax dollars, because I want them to do the most good, like help someone who is a victim of the Meltdown through no fault of their own and is desperate for assistance. Throwing money into chasing cannabists is becoming an inexcusable waste of those tax dollars, and people are letting the legislators know it more and more. And people like Joyce are increasingly becoming as marginalized as we have been for years.

    So, welcome to the cold, cruel world that we are just beginning to exit, Joyce. Would you like a blankie for the bone-deep chill? You’re gonna need it…

  • Kap… make that a hemp blankie for Joyce…

  • ezrydn

    Prohibs want the money to keep flowing FROM the government. Reformers are trying to give money TO the government. Prohibs want criminals to control drugs to your kids. Reformers want regulations and controls in place where kids DON’T have access.

    Who ya gonna believe?

  • DdC

    Loud Sex Enough for Cops to Search Your Home, Court Rules
    For Brian McGacken of Farmingdale, New Jersey, an evening of loud sex resulted in a 10-year prison sentence for growing marijuana.

    That’s Mister “Fuck the Drug War” to You
    Mar 18 2010
    Man in Washington State legally changes his name to “Fuck The Drug War”. Awesome.

    Standing Your Ground Against Police

  • kaptinemo

    Allan and friends, the time is coming when the same observations will be made by a pol, somewhere. And when the prohibs try to character assassinate the pol, the pol will have the option of asking said prohibs how much more of the (dwindling) tax revenues do they need before they win the DrugWar, since they’ve wasted a trillion dollars already that we wish we had right now.?

    It’s coming. It has to. Sooner or later, the ‘anti-drug concerned parents’ astroturf groups will make a slip and mouth off to the wrong people at the wrong time and the wrong place. And when it happens, they’ll be publicly censured, if not humiliated for being the fiscally-profligate and out-of-touch control freaks they are. And then watch the previously timid pols pile on, each trying to out-do each other in being critical of the ‘civilian’ cat’s-paws of the DrugWarriors…which ‘sends a message’ to the DrugWarriors themselves that the party’s over.

    We just have to be patient…and get the popcorn ready to watch the fireworks…

  • Just me

    Humm Kaptin…now that you speak of it, back when…I remember some real greeen, very sticky pine forest smellin stuff…uuummmm that was good.

  • Just me

    LOL its funny. Here we all talk bout the green back when,yesterday, today…hell even what many will get tomorrow. I see people talk of it all over the net. All becuase the law cant stop it. Funny..dont we have a prohibition that was supposed to keep all that green from flowing? Just goes to show the world…it’ll never happen.

  • Maria

    http://images.ucomics.com/comics/wpswi/2010/wpswi100319.gif
    http://cartoonbox.slate.com/hottopic/?image=18&topicid=305

    Yes. You are all killing the Mexicans. Especially you! You people who want to grow Marijuana in your own home like you already brew beer, for your own use and without the fear of SWAT teams breaking down your door and shooting your dog, grandma, wife, husband, cousin, their own feet. Ya’ll are the worst offenders. Think of the Mexican children. I mean, clearly if we let you grow this stuff yourselves more Mexican children will die. It’s true because we say it is.

    .. Pass the effin’ popcorn.

  • ezrydn

    Hey, Pete? Ever thought of offering Cliff a guest post? LOL PLEEEEZE?

  • kaptinemo

    (Chuckling) Obviously the artist of those cartoons suffers from a plank sticking out of his eye while pointing at the dust mote in ours. So typical. Can’t even consider the possibility that those who scream the loudest about the ‘problem’ are its’ greatest beneficiaries.

    It would seem that just about all prohibitionists of any stripe suffer from congenital tunnel vision. They remind me of the old saying, “Justice is what we deserve; mercy is in not getting it.” The prohibs mistakenly believe themselves to be uniquely suited to wield the sword of justice, while failing to see the injustice they cause by using that sword. “None so blind…”

  • i think a whole lot of “people” would look really nice with hemp necklaces.

  • Ripmeupacuppa

    Brian sais “i think a whole lot of “people” would look really nice with hemp necklaces.”

    I believe brian’s future vision of prohibs hanging about on street corners may not be that long off; we’ve had many decades of gross injustice, we’re bound to reach a point in time pretty soon, when hoards of freshly released ‘political’ prisoners will be screaming for blood.

  • kaptinemo

    I didn’t see the invitation until later.

    By all means, invite him over. (Wolf’s grin) I’ll spring for the barbecue sauce, but someone else has to buy the bamboo skewers, I am fresh out.

    Nothing like fresh sliced and diced prohib basted in their own hypocrisy and bile, skewered and roasted repeatedly until taxpayer-funded fat has dripped out completely. Then serve on a silver platter a la ‘suckling pig’, with one of their feet jammed in their mouth toes-first in place of the customary apple.

    (Srrriiiing! Srrrriiiiiing! as the carving knife is sharpened) Yes indeed, come right in…

  • Ripmeupacuppa

    Grow your own and safe a child!

  • Ripmeupacuppa

    correction:

    Grow your own and save a child!

    …I’m mixing my drugs again ;>)

  • ezrydn

    Question is, is his belief system strong enough to accept the invitation? It could be handled like with Dan. I doubt any of us would refuse such an offer if it was the other way around. Be interesting to see what you can hatch, Pete.