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Showing true colors on asset forfeiture

A friend sent me this article, not so much about the disagreement between President Trump and a Senator, but the underlying discussion that led to it.

Texas Democrats Angered by Trump’s Remark on Destroying Senator’s Career

“Mr. President, on asset forfeiture,” Sheriff Eavenson said, in an exchange that was observed by reporters and filmed, “we’ve got a state senator in Texas that was talking about introducing legislation to require conviction before we can receive that forfeiture money, and I told him that the cartel would build a monument to him in Mexico if he could get that legislation passed.”

“Can you believe that?” Mr. Trump responded, then added, “Who’s the state senator?”

Sheriff Eavenson did not reply. “Do you want to give his name?” Mr. Trump said. “We’ll destroy his career.” Laughter then broke out.

Sigh.

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64 comments to Showing true colors on asset forfeiture

  • Mouth

    Civil Asset Forfeiture is going by the way of the dinosaur. For every 10 police officers/military etc, there are two to three of us who have chosen to diverge from our original goals and dreams to help dilute the system. Trump has no choice but to legalize cannabis with too many young cannabis supporters working as cops, soldiers, fire, Park Rangers, FBI etc. It’s OK to lose a good paying job because one chose to do the right thing. By 2018, over a quarter million (or more) 18-30 year old cannabis supporters will be working for the government, diluting the system as best they can. The Drug War is winding down faster than we expected because one cop/soldier etc at a time is just saying no to enforcing drug laws–even if it costs us our job (and it sucks when you lose that job too).

    Because Drug Prohibition is financing criminals and terrorists, while deleting the U.S. Constitution and other human rights, tens of thousands of American cops are boycotting the laws when they are riding solo or with a partner.

    • Mouth

      This is because some of us still live in a world where the Attorney General or other elected officials can do away with election results, our lawsuits and change the rules at the last minute upon ballot requirement. This is why we need people from California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, New York etc to make the hard decision of packing up and heading to the Redder Red States and make careers (for a season of course) as cops etc.

    • Servetus

      Author Chris Hedges would agree with you:

      The tipping point is always the same. In revolutionary Russia, for instance, what was the tipping point that led to the abdication of the Czar? It was the bread riots in Petrograd and the Cossacks refusing to fire on the crowd. What was it that terminated the regime in Iran? It was the announcement the Shah had fled and the armed forces would no longer fight to defend the regime. Same in Cuba. Even in the French Revolution, what was the tipping point? It’s when the armed forces would no longer defend Louis XVI and defected to the revolutionaries. I watched this in 1989 in Eastern Europe. When the foot soldiers of the elite—the police, the army, the civil service—no longer defend a discredited system. And when that happens, no matter what the resources of the regime, the regime is finished. – Chris Hedges, Unspeakable, Chris Hedges Talks with David Talbot about the Most Forbidden Topics in America, 2016, pp. 95-6.

      • Mouth

        The government and her politicians for ill only think they can permanently reprogram the enforcers’ logic gates. A few they can, but most of us will default to our true settings. If a ‘True’ and/or ‘False’ statement(s) is all that is needed and the reason why lights and computers etc work on the basis of an eternal ‘necessary’, then so do humans. Freedom from tyranny is necessary.

      • Servetus

        Hedges Part 2:

        The historian Crane Brinton in his book Anatomy of a Revolution laid out the prerequisites for revolution. These include discontent that affects nearly all social classes, widespread feelings of entrapment and despair, unfulfilled expectations, a unified solidarity in opposition to a tiny power elite, a refusal by scholars and thinkers to continue to defend the actions of the ruling class, an inability of government to respond to the basic needs of citizens, a steady loss of will within the power elite itself and defections from the inner circle, a crippling isolation that leaves the power elite without any allies or outside support and, finally, a crisis, usually economic. Our corporate elite has amply fulfilled these preconditions. But it is Brinton’s next observation that is most important. Revolutions always begin, he wrote, by making impossible demands that if the government met would mean the end of the old configurations of power, such as wresting back power from corporations. The second stage, the one we have entered now, is the unsuccessful attempt by the power elite to quell the unrest and discontent through physical acts of repression. The vast internal security and surveillance machine is not primarily about fighting terrorism but about keeping us contained. ibid p.95.

        • darkcycle

          Thanks for those, Servetus. Hedges isn’t always on my page, but more and more often these days he is. And his warnings should be taken very seriously, he’s a smart cookie…..Kind of like the Christopher Hitchens of the radical left.

      • jean valjean

        Here’s the video of the moment Ceausescu loses the plot (around 2:30)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BrpbK2j1hg

    • NorCalNative

      Hey M. A recent love poem to geography and the atlas went unremarked on by the couch. I thought it was fucking awesome.

      I just finished reading a book by geography professor at UCLA, Jared Diamond. “Guns, Germs, and Steel.”

      • Mouth

        Thanks NorCalNative. But I do confess, I haven’t been the same since Google Earth. Thanks for sharing this author with me. His ‘Collapse’ book looks enticing. I like his premise that we have to act now to solve tomorrow’s problems (which is why he says he’s a cautious optimist). This is also why I don’t recycle plastics: I pretend it’s all biodegradable from natural non-oil products, therefore people look at me like I’m ‘cruel’ to the world and I look at them like they are ‘dumb’, which starts the conversation. Sometimes it’s paper (since I pretend all paper comes from hemp), but I always recycle glass and aluminum. And I always try to throw food out in the yard so nature can have back her minerals and only my allergies don’t like mowing the leaves, though it’s better than putting them in a plastic bag made of oil. Have a good weekend NCN.

      • primus

        All three of his books are great. Guns, Germs and Steel was mos’ def worthy of the Pulitzer Prize it won. It explained why European culture has dominated the world. Hint: It’s not due to some innate superiority in Europeans. Collapse was every bit as enlightening as to the reasons why some societies prosper and others don’t when faced with similar problems. The Third Chimpanzee was also enlightening, discussing how we humans really behave much like our ancestral apes did, though the book is not that much different from The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris. I read all three about ten years ago. I urge everyone to read at least GG&S.

      • darkcycle

        Now read the thinker Jared stole from…Sing C. Chew, and his books “World Ecological Degradation” 2001, “The Recurring Dark Ages” 2006, and “Ecological Futures” 2008.
        Pay particular attention to “Recurring Dark Ages”, It can be taken all by itself as representative of Chew’s work. Really, Jared Diamond only expanded on some of Chew’s thinking in “Guns” and Collapse.
        https://www.amazon.com/Recurring-Dark-Ages-Transformation-Degradation/dp/0759104522

        • primus

          Guns, Germs and Steel 1999 Third Chimpanzee 2006 Collapse 2011(Diamond). Recurring Dark Ages 2013 Ecological Futures 2008 World Ecological Degradation 2001(Chew). Who was first? I suspect that, like many ideas, several people think of them at around the same time. For example, Darwin was forced to hurry publication of his Origin of Species, because others were also writing on the same subject and were nearly ready to publish. As I stated previously, Third Chimpanzee is somewhat of a rewrite of Naked Ape, however with a more modern approach and some more recent discoveries added in. I can’t speak to Diamond’s similarity to Chew because I am not familiar. It is very possible that Diamond was aware of other researchers, or he read some of their work and they read some of his, or they all read the same sources, and thereby their thinking was molded and evolved. I found GG&S a fascinating read, and Collapse was also very worthwhile. I will try to find Chew’s works to compare.

        • darkcycle

          Chew was a researcher and a teacher, and had been lecturing and publishing journal pieces long before compiling his ideas in book form….and these are more meant as textbooks for other teachers to use, so they are far more technical, and also have large appendices with tables of ice core data and fossil pollen distribution. Read one and it’s clear, Diamond was the popular adaptation of Chew’s ideas. I don’t think that’s bad, but credit where it’s due. Legwork and appendices with supporting data wins the day IMHO.

  • Will

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    TRUMP’S DRUG LAW: PUNISHMENT BEFORE THE CRIME

    http://tinyurl.com/z2ufx4z

    As the Washington Post’s Christopher Ingraham tweeted, asset forfeiture has spun so wildly out of control that one year, Americans lost more property to police than they did to burglars.

  • Servetus

    Trump has signed three new executive orders relating to drug enforcement (and thereby police state enhancement). The orders are being issued despite the fact crime rates in the United States are at an historic low. From CNN:

    February 10, 2017 — (1)… directs Sessions to establish a new Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety.

    The Task Force will develop “strategies to reduce crime, including, in particular, illegal immigration, drug trafficking and violent crime,” propose new legislation, and submit at least one report to the President within the next year.

    (2) A second executive order, aimed at combating transnational drug cartels, prescribes steps for various federal agencies to “increase intelligence” sharing among law enforcement partners. The order also instructs an existing inter-agency working group to submit a report to Trump within four months detailing the progress made in combating criminal organizations, “along with any recommended actions for dismantling them.”

    (3) Trump signed an executive order directing the Justice Department to use existing federal law to prosecute those who commit crimes against law enforcement officers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/trump-executive-orders-crime-reduction/index.html

    Tsar Trump is right about one thing. He appears concerned the police are going to be caught in the crossfire between Americans and their government. Good for the Tsar, but bad for the cops who now may be called upon to fire on protesters.

  • Servetus

    Psychologists at McMaster University, located in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, have discovered something interesting about people and police uniforms:

    10-FEB-2017 — New research from a team of cognitive neuroscientists … suggests that simply putting on a uniform, similar to one the police might wear, automatically affects how we perceive others, creating a bias towards those considered to be of a low social status.

    The study, recently published in the journal Frontiers in Psychology, raises important questions about stereotypes and profiling, and about how the symbolic power and authority associated with police uniforms might affect these tendencies.
    AAAS Public Release: Research suggests wearing a police uniform changes the way the brain processes info

    LA Police Chief Daryl Gates wore black uniforms, making him look like the Gestapo. If a common police uniform can have the mental effect noted by the Canadian researchers, imagine what SWAT regalia achieves in the mind of the right wing authoritarian or sadomoralist.

    Wavy Gravy had figured it out when he donned a clown’s uniform and discovered the cops didn’t beat him up at political demonstrations anymore. Previously, he had been gassed while injured and lying on a stretcher.

    The new revelations by Canadian researchers are a public service remedy. The means to cutting back on drug enforcement based police violence will require mandating that DEA, SWAT, and drug agents wear clown suits. A clown outfit for Trump might work wonders to improve his job performance.

    • DdC

      He is also DAREyl SWAT Gates, LAPDog Perversions creating the true Assassins of Youth: DARE † FRCn PDFA.

      “All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it.”

      Just Say No…

      Tweet Tweet…

      “Through clever and constant application of propaganda,
      people can be made to see paradise as hell,
      and also the other way around,
      to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
      From Benito Mussolini,

      Same crap of blaming the harm done by prohibition on the substance prohibited. Anything from racism to prohibition works. This is the rhetoric Nixon used to outlaw Cannabis in all forms to remove his political enemies. Hippies were stigmatized out of the conversation. Drugs don’t kill, hiding safe procedures kills. Outlawing needle exchange and forcing users to buy from the inconsistent, adulterated black market is what kills. The lies from police and politicians to the public kill.

  • jean valjean

    Steve Bannon blames the financial crash and everything else that’s wrong with America on, you guessed it, the hippies.

    “… the counterculture of the 1960s. Bell bottoms. Drum solos. Dope. That’s the thing to blame for the financial crisis and the bailouts. Not the deregulation of derivatives in 2000. It was those kids having fun at Woodstock in 1969.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/10/steve-bannon-spirit-revolt-democrats-gave-up

    • DdC

      The Trump crew of Duck DieNasty GOPerversions executing policy with chew tobaccie stains patched up with duct tape. If any of them could read or had cognitive ability to comprehend. They wouldn’t have to lie so much. W came up with similar bullshit. Too many of them damn “values” were being changed. No More War, Civil Rights, Free Speech, Voting rights, housing rights, Free Clinics, Farmers Markets, Organic Food, Hemp, Ganja, Clean air and water. Stop dumping tons of Agent Orange on millions of people kinda things.

      Cha Cha Cha Changes in beliefs and values from the top of American society. From segregation to unequal pay, dress codes and fake food washed down with carbonated obesity. Crude Oil Gas guzzlers and censored media. Black and white TV with the manly men hunting fishing drinking beer and smoking cigarettes. Watching baseball, chevrolet hot dogs and apple pie cooked by the women who had the kids and could still be legally raped by her husband or admitted to an asylum for seeking divorce or having an abortion regardless to the risk of the person. The good ole days and same ole greed causes poverty.

      “Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”
      Federal Bureau of Narcotics Chief Harry J. Anslinger, 1948

      Poverty? Dubya Says Blame the Hippies!
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/413
      His book, The Dream and the Nightmare: The Sixties’ Legacy to the Underclass (Encounter Books, 1999) argues that the radical transformation of American culture that took place in the 1960s brought the underclass into being. Changes in beliefs and values at the top of American society produced catastrophic changes in behavior at the bottom. President-elect George W. Bush told the Wall Street Journal that it was the most important book he’d ever read after the Bible, and Bush strategist Karl Rove calls The Dream and the Nightmare a roadmap to the president-elects “compassionate conservatism.” Hilton Kramer called the book “an indispensable guide to the outstanding question of the day,” columnist Mona Charen deemed it “the book of the decade,” and the Wall Street Journal remarked that “many writers have addressed this topic [of the underclass] but few have done so with more wisdom or more passion.

      Magnet’s The Dream and the Nightmare: The Sixties’ Legacy to the Underclass

      “The struggle between the two worlds
      [Fascism and Democracy]
      can permit no compromises.
      It’s either Us or Them!”
      Benito Mussolini Address,
      Palazzo Venezia balcony October 27, 1930

      Poverty can lower your IQ,
      Almost All Rural Whites are In Poverty

      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1881

      Conservatives Have Larger ‘Fear Centers’ in Their Brains
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1690

  • Enola Lewis

    A Brazilian Supreme Court justice called on Friday for the legalization of marijuana and even cocaine to undo the growing power of drug gangs behind a wave of violence that has shaken Latin America’s largest country.

    Justice Roberto Barroso, a Yale graduate and constitutional law professor, said 50 years of war against drugs had failed miserably, clogging jails with small-time dealers and fueling a violent gang battle for control of the lucrative trade.

    >>

    Regulating the production, sale and consumption of marijuana – as in Brazil’s smaller neighbor Uruguay – could be first step in curbing crime in one of the world’s most dangerous countries, Barroso said.

    “If that works we can easily move to legalize cocaine,” said Barroso, who as a lawyer pushed to legalize stem cell research and gay rights. “If you want to break the power of traffickers you need to consider legalizing cocaine.”

    http://www.todayonline.com/world/brazil-supreme-court-judge-calls-drugs-legalization-beat-gangs

  • jdaniel30

    If Trump decides that fascism is the appropriate response to his imaginary crime wave, it will be a short, ineffective administration. I am taking a wait and see approach. If middle class America is less free and prosperous 2 years from now, we need to insist that even the Republican congress obstruct Trump or risk job loss. In four years the next candidate will win on a promise to undo all things Trump and to stomp out his legacy.

  • DdC

    Marijuana Today:
    Trump press secretary calls crackdown ‘unlikely’
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/3964791b-ca00-3ac8-a122-99caf5136922/ss_marijuana-today%3A-trump-press.html
    President Trump issued three largely symbolic executive orders on crime. … They say: ‘crackdown on cartels’, ‘cop killers’, and ‘reduce high crime’. None said the word ‘marijuana’, though they mentioned drugs and drug trafficking. … Sean Spicer reportedly said, “I think that’s unlikely” when asked “can we expect the Trump Administration to enforce federal law in states where marijuana is legal?” list a page of refs why its unlikely.

    starting with

    Meet, The Respect State Marijuana Laws Act.
    https://www.mpp.org/news/press/republican-congressman-introduces-bill-resolve-conflict-state-federal-marijuana-laws-allow-states-determine-policies/

    Like all things Trump, best taken with a grain of salt.

  • Servetus

    While the DEA’s obsession with but a few chemicals produces human hell holes throughout the world, we remain human chemical factories, pumping out a variety of chemicals including those that become airborne. Hundreds and hundreds of chemicals. A new video from the American Chemical Society clears up many of the controversies and snake oil surrounding pheromones:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzOtKwRCOn0&feature=youtu.be

  • WalStMonky

    Sheriff to talk marijuana at two conferences

    /snip/
    In fact, the first annual Cannabis Grand Cru took place in Aspen, which featured both [current Pitkin County Sheriff] DiSalvo and former Pitkin County Sheriff Bob Braudis. The group also is scheduled to hold it’s annual conference in Aspen next year in April, according to its website.

    DiSalvo said he spoke at the Cannabis Grand Cru event last year, when many community leaders from Washington state, which had recently legalized recreational marijuana, attended and were curious about its impacts.

    “My schtick, if you will, is the effect on youth and the developing brain, public safety and driving,” he said. “Basically, how this new product has affected us.”

    His answer to those questions?

    “There have been some pitfalls,” he said, including issues with edibles and zoning. “But they’ve been corrected.

    “The fallout has not been nearly what people thought it would be.”

    And as far as public safety goes, DiSalvo said the impact has been close to nil.

  • Servetus

    Starting at 35:20, Edward Snowden cites the drug war as a tool for the illegitimate sharing of intelligence information directed at repressing citizens:

    Dateline: Feb. 9, 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWG-oDNfRYE

    • DdC

      A Psychopath, Banksters and a Mad Dog General,
      I think we’ve hit the brick wall at the back of the theater…

      “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
      ~ Frank Zappa

      U.S. intelligence has collected information that Russia is considering turning over Edward Snowden as a “gift” to President Donald Trump — who has called the NSA leaker a “spy” and a “traitor” who deserves to be executed.
      Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S.
      to ‘Curry Favor’ With Trump: Official

      The 10 Biggest Revelations From Edward Snowden’s Leaks
      1. Secret court orders allow NSA to sweep up Americans’ phone records
      2. PRISM
      3. Britain’s version of the NSA taps fiber optic cables around the world
      4. NSA spies on foreign countries and world leaders
      5. XKeyscore, the program that sees everything
      6. NSA efforts to crack encryption and undermine Internet security
      7. NSA elite hacking team techniques revealed
      8. NSA cracks Google and Yahoo data center links
      9. NSA collects text messages
      10. NSA intercepts all phone calls in two countries

      Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance
      and Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks and Its Supporters

      The efforts – detailed in documents provided previously by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden – included a broad campaign of international pressure aimed not only at WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, but at what the U.S. government calls “the human network that supports WikiLeaks.” The documents also contain internal discussions about targeting the file-sharing site Pirate Bay and hacktivist collectives such as Anonymous.

      The First Orange President,
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr2lZwLFa7s
      Obama Left Dictator’s Toolkit,

    • jean valjean

      Thanks for that Servetus. I’m beginning to see Snowden as the new Nelson Mandela. Sadly though, I think he’s also going to have to do his time like Mandela.

  • Servetus

    Trump’s drug war machine is doubling down and rattling onward in a piece by Phillip Smith at Alternet:

    “We’re going to stop the drugs from pouring in,” Trump told law enforcement professionals of the Major Cities Chiefs Association on Wednesday. “We’re going to stop those drugs from poisoning our youth, from poisoning our people. We’re going to be ruthless in that fight. We have no choice. And we’re going to take that fight to the drug cartels and work to liberate our communities from their terrible grip of violence.”

    Trump also lambasted the Obama administration for one its signature achievements in criminal justice reform, opening the prison doors for more than 1,700 drug war prisoners who had already served sentences longer than they would have under current, revised sentencing guidelines. Obama freed “record numbers of drug traffickers, many of them kingpins,” Trump complained.

    Trump’s anti-immigration stance is based in part on drug-interdiction and prevention with the help of a Mexican border wall. Here is what researchers at the University at Buffalo have to say about immigration and crime:

    10-FEB-2017 — “Our research shows strong and stable evidence that, on average, across U.S. metropolitan areas crime and immigration are not linked,” said Robert Adelman, an associate professor of sociology at UB and the paper’s lead author. “The results show that immigration does not increase assaults and, in fact, robberies, burglaries, larceny, and murder are lower in places where immigration levels are higher.

    “The results are very clear.”

    Adelman’s study with Lesley Williams Reid, University of Alabama; Gail Markle, Kennesaw State University; Charles Jaret, Georgia State University; and Saskia Weiss, an independent scholar, is published in the latest issue of the Journal of Ethnicity in Criminal Justice.

    AAAS Public Release: Four decades of evidence finds no link between immigration and increased crime

  • “Since the Great Recession, more Mexicans have left the United States than migrated there. Constructing a barrier along the southern border may discourage more from going.” … https://tinyurl.com/jblhcep

    “Donald Trump’s executive order to build a wall between Mexico and the United States overlooks how the fences, walls, and border-control measures that already exist between the two countries have come to act as a barrier—or a “cage of gold”—that discourages migrants from leaving the United States, rather than preventing their entrance in the first place.”

  • Servetus

    Trump’s hostility toward science and research extends beyond the normal antagonisms shown toward the social sciences to include the physical sciences, i.e., environmental studies. While Trump & Co. say they support the use of medical marijuana (“100%”), any scientists who contradict the administration’s policies, for example, those involving mandatory sentencing, or the success of drug enforcement, or enforcement’s negative impacts on society, or the many failures of drug treatment centers, will likely find themselves persecuted with the help of the FBI should they become activists:

    February 10, 2017 — Scientists have a lot to worry about with congressional and presidential plans to limit the ways that science will be used to inform public policy. It all looks like a disaster, yet, perhaps the most significant thing about this new … unwelcomed state of constrained-use-of-science for public policy is that the physical sciences are … rapidly catching up with the government’s longstanding practice of ignoring the findings [of] social science to influence public policy.

    Climate and environmental scientists are only starting to acquire … the status of ignored scientists … afforded many social scientists for the past half century. It’s not that sociologists and anthropologists haven’t long understood and demonstrated things like the links between income and wealth inequality and crime, negative consequences of mandatory sentencing, the ways to improve access to public health, or the economic and social impacts of structural violence; they have, but policy makers don’t want to hear about data indicating that unfettered capitalism has negative social impacts. During the 1950s, anthropologists and sociologists who used their disciplinary findings indicating that race was a social construction, and not a biological variable accounting for differences between peoples, were routinely ignored. When this research led to activism, these social scientists were marginalized and punished by the FBI and other agents of McCarthyism. Today, growing numbers of US scientists’ findings stand to place them at odds with the preconceived notions of elected officials in similar ways.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/10/tyrannic-mans-dominion-trump-era-physical-sciences-approaching-social-sciences-marginal-status/

  • Enola Lewis

    After months of public pressure, and a legal request by the nonprofit medical cannabis advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, the DEA has removed factually inaccurate information about marijuana from their website.

    “The DEA’s removal of these popular myths about cannabis from their website could mean the end of the Washington gridlock” said Steph Sherer, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Access. “This is a victory for medical cannabis patients across the nation, who rely on cannabis to treat serious illnesses. The federal government now admits that cannabis is not a gateway drug, and doesn’t cause long-term brain damage, or psychosis. While the fight to end stigma around cannabis is far from over, this is a big first step.”

    https://thejointblog.com/dea-removes-marijuana-misinformation-website/

  • strayan

    A team at Simon Fraser University has worked out that cannabis addled driving increases your risk of having an accident by a whopping 18%.

    They are also kind enough to point out that driving with a blood alcohol content of 0.05 (the acceptable limit in many places) increases your risk of having accident by a mere 500%-600%.

    http://drugpolicy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CDPC_Cannabis-and-Driving_Evidence-Review-Full_Jan31-2017_FINAL.pdf

  • claygooding

    Off subjest: It looks pretty bad for the Trump regime with Flynn resigning after being caught making deals for oil rights in Russian territories for Exxon using US trade sanctions as poker chips to get er done.

    The new Secretary of State,,a CEO at Exxon(alleged former)should be next and if they can get any evidence of trumpty dump involvement he will go also.

    Happy days may return and Session’s is going to be busy as hell if treason trials are ordered. (unlikely)

  • Servetus

    A cocaine-addiction-resistant mouse created in a Canadian lab confirms longstanding suspicions about human addictions:

    13-FEB-2017 — Scientists at the University of British Columbia have genetically engineered a mouse that does not become addicted to cocaine, adding to the evidence that habitual drug use is more a matter of genetics and biochemistry than just poor judgment.[…]

    [Researchers] found that extra cadherin prevents a type of neurochemical receptor from migrating from the cell’s interior to the synaptic membrane. Without that receptor in place, it’s difficult for a neuron to receive a signal from adjoining neurons. So the synapses don’t strengthen and the pleasurable memory does not “stick.”

    “Through genetic engineering, we hard-wired in place the synapses in the reward circuits of these mice,” says graduate student Andrea Globa, a co-lead author with former graduate student Fergil Mills. “By preventing the synapses from strengthening, we prevented the mutant mice from ‘learning’ the memory of cocaine, and thus prevented them from becoming addicted.”[…]

    Their finding provides an explanation for previous studies showing that people with substance use problems tend to have more genetic mutations associated with cadherin and cell adhesion…it could lead to greater confidence in predicting who is more vulnerable to drug abuse – and enable people to act on that knowledge.

    Unfortunately, finding a way of augmenting cadherin as a way of resisting addiction in humans is fraught with pitfalls. In many cases, it’s important to strengthen synapses – even in the reward circuit of the brain.[…]

    AAAS Public Release: UBC scientists create mouse that resists cocaine’s lure: By biochemically ‘hard-wiring’ synapses, they prevent drug addiction

  • DdC

    “I absolutely believe that the dismantling of cannabis in Colorado would cause a recession,” said Kristi Kelly, the Executive Director of the Marijuana Industry Group.

    Trump Vows “Ruthless” War On Drugs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNDZnjMV8vY
    Lt. Commander Diane Goldstein (Ret.), Law Enforcement Action Partnership (L.E.A.P.) Donald Trump has promised to be “tough on crime” by waging a “ruthless” war on drugs. Are Trump and Jeff Sessions gearing up to come for you and your pot?

    Marijuana Today: AG Sessions leaning toward cannabis status quo
    A Sacramento, CA. sheriff talked weed with the new AG Jeff Sessions: “Jones says his conversation with Sessions didn’t lead him to believe much would change. ‘Regarding the prioritization of federal resources to combat marijuana, he didn’t see the federal government getting involved in marijuana use or low-level state, what are traditionally state and local crimes, but, I don’t think he ruled out the possibility of the federal government getting involved in larger-scale operations.’ The sheriff says those operations would include trafficking by drug cartels.” (h/t CalNORML Ellen Komp)

    ‘Hypocrisy’ of legalizing pot undermines America’s war on hard-core drugs, general says
    Where you stand is where you sit. So if you’re a Latin American, and we’re harping on them to do more to stop the flow of drugs, they say: ‘Wait a minute. As we look north, the real problem is the demand. So why don’t you do more to stop the demand for drugs. … Why would we do more when you seem to be legalizing this stuff?'”

    Most marijuana consumed in the U.S. is grown here or in Mexico, Kelly noted. Its recreational use is legal in Colorado, Oregon, Washington state and Washington, D.C. At least a dozen additional states have decriminalized pot, and more than a dozen others allow people to consume it with a doctor’s prescription. Increasingly, those individuals include military veterans who suffer from post-traumatic stress and other service-connected injuries or illnesses. That doesn’t bother the general, who led combat forces in Iraq as a one- and two-star general.

    “I’m not a doctor,” said Kelly, an infantry officer whose military career dates back to the Vietnam era, “but I’m told it has a medical use. So whether it’s veterans or anyone else, if it helps those people, then fine. Medicine is medicine. Every medicine is probably illegal unless you take it medicinally.”

    “If it’s heading away from the United States, I don’t care about it,” he added. “I mean, we take it, we seize it, we take the people and put them in the legal justice system.” Rather, the most intense focus is on the movement north of cocaine, heroin and meth.

    “Trump Just Picked a Mass Torturer Who Cheerleads for the Drug War to Head DHS”
    ‘“Kelly is a big-time drug war zealot,” Michael Collins, deputy director of Drug Policy Alliance’s office of national affairs, said in a press statement. “As head of Southern Command he demonstrated that he is a true believer in the drug war, and it’s incredibly worrying that he could now head up Homeland Security.”’

    California Hires Eric Holder as Legal Bulwark Against Donald Trump

  • DdC

    The Next Big Brain Cancer Drug Could Come from MJ
    http://fortune.com/2017/02/07/gw-pharmaceuticals-marijuana-brain-cancer/
    GW Pharmaceuticals (gwph) is already well on its way to winning the first-ever U.S. approval for a cannabis-derived therapy.

    GWPH – GW Pharmaceuticals
    PLC- ADR (NASDAQ) 2017
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    Marijuana Linked to Decreased Alcohol, Opioid Use
    http://cannabisnews.com/news/29/thread29036.shtml

    Milton Friedman: Prohibition and Drugs
    http://hempworld.com/HempPharm/articles/miltonfriedman.html

    • NorCalNative

      Looking at GWP’s product pipeline they use GWP2002 and GWP2003 as the cannabinoids to be used for glioma.

      I think this is CBD and THC, or THC and CBD. Is this correct? It would be interesting to know if they’re referring to their current THC/CBD-based medicine Sativex.

      My gut tells me rescheduling is going to happen soon, perhaps before President Pence takes a new oath of orifice.

      • DdC

        Hey NCN,

        I’d have to look it up but I remember they were importing various strains and stashing them in Kansas. I think they are testing CBD and THC and now a Combo for cancer, but their bucks are also on the applicator and extraction method. It seems if it says cannabinoids CBs 02/03 it would mean THC. CBD would be Cannabidiols. thats Epidiolex for seizures. Haven”t heard much from Sativex THC. First I’ve heard of GPD2002,03 or 04 I think TEVA has a similar product/ All cannabis pharms got a bump, but nothing like GW. Who are not friends of legalizing by any means or do they want any association. I don’t follow them or what they do or say. They buy my pot. It seems positive research raises value, reefer madness raises value. New initiatives passed lowers a bit or hovers. I think the entire Stock Market is a Casino.

        GW’s drug isn’t just a bowl of weed to be smoked – it contains concentrated derivatives and is undergoing the kind of clinical testing that could provide insights hampered by U.S. policy towards studying cannabis.

        Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd 34.90 +0.90 (2.65%)

        My prediction is the Goobers and Raygunettes will weasel busts whack a mole style and headline white powder imports to lump in Mexicans and Terrorists. To increase the bogeyman factor. Anything but reality that prohibition is the causal connection to harm from white powders or Ganja. Then when Fat Pharma has the bulk of patients there will be no need for growers or dispensaries. When enough are removed it seems logical that bottom line dwellers on Wall St as fat pharms are, will shelve it and go back to their drugs.

        Cannabis is too damn versatile, same with Hemp. It doesn’t bring the side effect profits or ER trips for od’s or Hospital profits. Kills all these other drug markets the same as fossil fools, cotton and steel are threatened by Hemp or Booze by Ganja. Then GW will sell out and be shelved. If they censor the net who ya gonna call?

  • Servetus

    The new anti-education secretary, Betsy DeVos, and her husband, Richard DeVos Jr., retain a financial interest in a biofeedback company called Neurocore, for which Ms. DeVos is now a former board member. Neurocore describes itself as “ a Michigan company that operates drug-free “brain performance centers” that claim to have worked with 10,000 children and adults to overcome problems with attention deficit disorder, autism, sleeplessness and stress.” Neurocore has not published its results or rates of success in any medical or scientific journal. A typical customer pays $2000 for a treatment.

    DeVos has devoted her life to ending public education as we know it. She recommends substituting charter and religious schools in their place. According to one of her admirers, charter school proponent William J. Bennett, writing for Breitbart:

    DeVos has fought against the teachers’ unions in dozens of state capitals for charter schools and private school vouchers, and she has stood with parents who decide to home school their children.

    Fascism invariably attacks and destroys quality education. It regards highly educated people as a likely threat to the totalitarian state. Science education comes under attack for that reason, and would be rendered defenseless in a charter or religious school system. Trump’s selection of DeVos shows he supports her agenda. There exists an historical precedent:

    On assuming power, Hitler had named [Dr. Bernard] Rust Gauleiter of Hanover and Prussian minister of education, in which latter post he was soon boasting that he was “liquidating the school as an institution of intellectual acrobatics.”…Nazifying it – “according to the great ideas and ideals of the Fuhrer.”

    Hitler…had always showed a withering contempt for schoolteachers. They had failed appreciate his genius in high school, which he quit before graduating, and they turned him down as being without talent when he attempted to get into the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts. To his dying day, Hitler never forgave nor forgot these teachers. No wonder that Dr. Rust, on behalf of his Master, was firing teachers right and left. In the first five years of Hitler’s rule he dismissed some twenty-eight hundred university professors and instructors – about a quarter of the total number. University enrollment declined rapidly. After six years of Nazism it would fall from 127,920 to 58,325. At the institutes of technology, once the envy of the world and on which Germany depended for its constant supply of scientists and engineers, the drop was even worse: from 20,474 to 9,554.

    Academic standards fell dizzily. Publications devoted to various German industries, I noticed, began to complain about the poor quality of young executives, engineers and scientists recruited from the universities. They might be good Nazis, it was implied, but they were lousy at their jobs. – William L. Shirer, The Nightmare Years 1930 – 1940, (1984 first ed.), p. 184.

    • Mr. F-Bomb

      Servetus, thanks for being a great teacher. You’re an asset I’d hate to forfeit.

      Great Teacher’s rock!

    • DdC

      “Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.”
      Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10

      “A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth
      that is what I am after…
      I will have no intellectual training.
      Knowledge is ruin for my young men.”
      Adolf Hitler,
      quoted by John Gunther “The Nation”

      The assassins of youth…DARE the FRCn PDFA
      http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/505

      “Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith . . . we need believing people.”
      Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933,
      from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi Vatican Concordant of 1933

  • ‘Last Week Tonight’ Host John Oliver Blasts Donald Trump As ‘Pathological Liar’ https://t.co/yRkM6OXRSR

    Here is the video: https://t.co/iN6SV1XWEH

    With Trump saying violent crime is highest its been in 47 years to trying to rekindle the drug war bloodbath (Report Finds Major Flaws in Proposals to Further Militarize Mexico’s Drug War) https://t.co/spyppYWjy1 , his word and reasoning should be questioned and inspected in each and ever case related to drug war and legalization. I think that should include all his choices since inauguration that have direct bearing on it.

    This more than ever is a time when truth must be disseminated.

    The ingnorant and misguided choices about drugs based on a sense of prejudice and faulty logic instead of science, facts, and truth will negate all our reform progress. It will foster repressive enforcement regimes that are totally wrong and uncalled for.

    We are stuck listening for the Trump lies and following behind him with a “broom of truth”. I think John Oliver has the right idea under the circumstances.

    Its no wonder Trump is so sensitive about “leaks” to the press. He can really make a Nixonian mess of things rather quickly if he is left uninspected and unchecked.

  • DdC

    If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.
    — President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

    They’ve been getting away with fascism since Nixon started the Ganjawar. Many groups have felt the lopsided tax dodging and outsourcing of jobs. Millions have lost jobs on urine tests that have no bearing on impairment. Prison slave labor for growing medicine the mainstream never noticed. Many civil rights and due process protections were not deemed suitable for stoners. Mandatory minimum sentencing. Gag rules prohibiting a medicinal defense based on the CSA with no Science backing it up. Oh well they said.

    Now forfeitures before trial or even finding evidence they are taking peoples homes and then making them sue to get it back. Or bank accounts or children of advocates taken to trailer trash foster care because talking about legalizing pot is against the holy babel of the drug worriers BS. Refusing people organ transplants if they have a medical card. Profiling and if you are of color it is a 4 to 1 ratio you will sit in a cage and get harsher penalties. For the same non victim crime. So bear with me if I don’t get all giddy over lying politicians and slimy weasels circumventing the BoR. Now that its hitting the middle class. there are none left too speak out.

    We the people have failed in our jobs as citizens to hold them accountable. Especially those we’ve entrusted to fight for the Constitution and our rights. Politicians or reformers can’t barter away rights to win initiatives when the CSA is a bogus piece of crap legislation pushing 50 years of ignorance maintaining it. Enough! Its obvious citizens united has auctioned off politicians to “eccentric” if not deranged billionaires telling the shit kickers what they want to hear. At the same time telling the majority of Americans to be afraid and causing stress and trauma to millions of citizens… at least those without safe access.

    That is not my idea of a Commander, let alone one in Chief, period. Trump is the self proclaimed “King of Debt” and the money party is enthusiastically helping him weed out the remainder of “America”. Its like he is trying to Incorporate the country as CEO with his hand picked BoD. No wonder he can’t understand why the Senate is vetting. Is it not clear by now that Trump is exactly what 15 or so GOPers debating him said?

    The bad news is Pence is a religious wingnut just as power addicted and controlling as Falswell and Robertson or Junior Graham. If Pence goes down with Donnie for covering up evidence about Flynn and the Ruskies. It would leave Ayn’s protege Paul Ryan in the big seat. PotUS Eddie Munster? Then Orrin, you’re shitting me, Hatch? Looks like a tie between Exxon and Goldmen Sachs for 4th. If that doesn’t bankrupt us Mad Dog is 5th. Then the rednecks will rise faster than their Viagra with Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III CiC. Hard to believe Trump the Puppet may be the least threat to civilization,

    I’m ready for Ganjastan!

    • Servetus

      Pence is a religious wingnut just as power addicted and controlling as Falswell and Robertson or Junior Graham…

      Chris Hedges speaks about dominionism:

      This corruption of science and law is vital in promoting the doctrine. Creationism, or “intelligent design,” like Eugenics for the Nazis, must be introduced into the mainstream as a valid scientific discipline to destroy the discipline of science itself. This is why the Christian Right is working to bring test cases to ensure that school textbooks include “intelligent design” and condemn gay marriage.

      The drive by the Christian Right to include crackpot theories in scientific or legal debate is part of the campaign to destroy dispassionate and honest intellectual inquiry. Facts become interchangeable with opinions. An understanding of reality is not to be based on the elaborate gathering of facts and evidence. The ideology alone is true. Facts that get in the way of the ideology can be altered. Lies, in this worldview, become true. Hannah Arendt called this effort “nihilistic relativism” although a better phrase might be collective insanity.[…]

      “What convinces masses are not facts,” Hannah Arendt wrote in Origins of Totalitarianism, “and not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the system which they are presumably part. Repetition, somewhat overrated in importance because of the common belief in the “masses” inferior capacity to grasp and remember, is important because it convinces them of consistency in time.” (p.351)

      There are more than 6 million elementary and secondary school students attending private schools and 11.5 percent of these students attend schools run by the Christian Right. These “Christian” schools saw an increase of 46 percent in enrollment in the last decade. The 245,000 additional students accounted for 75 percent of the total rise in private school enrollment.[…]

      All debates with the Christian Right are useless. We cannot reach this movement. It does not want a dialogue. It cares nothing for rational thought and discussion. It is not mollified because John Kerry prays or Jimmy Carter teaches Sunday School. These naive attempts to reach out to a movement bent on our destruction, to prove to them that we too have “values,” would be humorous if the stakes were not so deadly. They hate us. They hate the liberal, enlightened world formed by the Constitution. Our opinions do not count.— Chris Hedges, The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism

  • Servetus

    Dr. Mark Ware of McGill University is hosting a meeting at the 2017 Annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Boston titled Assessing the Impact of Medical Marijuana: The Grass Could Be Greener:

    Sunday, February 19, 2017: 8:00 AM-9:30 AM/ Room 311

    The legalization of marijuana remains a topic of intense debate. The majority of U.S. states have legalized some form of medical marijuana use, and nearly 2 million people are registered medical marijuana users. That number is rising rapidly because of both increased access to medical marijuana and promulgation of its potential therapeutic effects. This week, at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) in Boston, Dr. Mark Ware of the Research Institute of the McGill University Health Centre will present an overview of the data generated from the Quebec Cannabis Registry. The innovative project, the first of its kind in the world, was established by the Research Institute of the MUHC and the Canadian Consortium for the Investigation of Cannabinoids (CCIC), to help physicians manage medical cannabis use and generate a database for the use of the international scientific community.

    AAAS Public Release: McGill University at the American Academy for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

  • Don't Care Anymore

    Just want to remind every “liberal” here that asset forfeiture was invented by the communists. Take away the property of hard working “kulaks”. Nixon loved the commies and shook hands with Maoist scum. Red states. Doubleplusungood. Now go fuck yourself.

  • WalStMonky

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    The juggernaut maintains escape velocity. From Houston TX:

    DA Ogg, Police Leaders Announce Landmark Marijuana Diversion Program

    The remarkable move, which Ogg had championed throughout her 2016 campaign, pushes the third largest county in the nation to the forefront of marijuana reform in places where it is still illegal. Harris County will join only the Brooklyn County District Attorney’s Office in New York in choosing to divert misdemeanor marijuana defendants away from jail entirely, saving taxpayers millions of dollars and saving thousands of people the lifelong burden of a criminal record.

    Instead of being arrested and hauled off to jail, low-level potheads and casual smokers will instead be asked to take a four-hour decision-making class, at a cost of $150 (exceptions will be made for indigent people). Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo and Mayor Sylvester Turner joined Ogg in developing the landmark policy. It replaces former district attorney Devon Anderson’s First Chance Diversion Program, which only applied to first-time offenders caught with less than two ounces, which Ogg had criticized as being too narrow.

    “At 107,000 cases over the last ten years, we have spent in excess of $250 million dollars collectively prosecuting a crime that has produced no tangible evidence of improved public safety,” Ogg said.

    “Additionally, the collateral damage to our workforce is immeasurable — because what we have done is we have disqualified, unnecessarily, thousands of people from greater job, housing and education opportunities by giving them a criminal record for what is in effect a minor law violation.”

  • WalStMonky

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    Apparently the cartels are taking the POTUS at his word concerning the border wall boondoggle. Marijuana catapult found at U.S.-Mexico border, patrol says

    Are they still working on a people catapult? I suppose that broken bones and fractured skulls would seriously compromise revenue potential from our Country’s potential unregistered guests. It would probably make more sense to let the first several hundred use an under border tunnel for free after they dig it. Now please, I admit I’m not an expert in the unauthorized cross border transport of humans for the provision of less expensive labor but I’m smart enough to know that any method which doesn’t include land mines is going to be defeated in short order. Of course the death traps will just take a little longer to defeat. As everyone knows, the early bird may get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.

  • WalStMonky

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    Can someone direct me to the ONDCP’s web site? It appears to be almost entirely missing at the old web address. The only thing there is “Office of National Drug Control Policy” and a directory to other administration websites. I suppose they might have decided to delete any inaccurate or dishonest content without realizing that only the agency’s name would pass muster.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp

    Never borrow sorrow from tomorrow, that’s my motto.

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