Comments on: Narcophobia

By: Jesper Kristensen

Jesper Kristensen — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:37:54 +0000

Opponents of legal markets have a hidden deontological agenda. For people subscribing to this it is most important to follow the rule whether it be moral og legal. They are not – despire some feeble window dressing – interested in the results of their moral/legal stance. It’s about “following orders” and “it’s the thought that counts”.

Wiki: Consequentialism refers to those moral theories which hold that the consequences of a particular action form the basis for any valid moral judgment about that action … Thus, from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right action is one that produces a good outcome, or consequence.

That, simply, is why WE are so eager to count the costs and why THEY ignore practical outcomes. Parallels are obvious in other debates like sex education, condom use, food taboos, religious clothing, and prostitution.

It could be said that harm reduction is consequentialist in nature. No one in HR would accept a solution that had adverse outcomes. Drug warriors will see the world burn (and at a hot temperature too) before considering alternatives.

They simply find it SO WRONG that they won’t even discuss practical outcomes, and as long as they set the agenda those immense costs of the drug war won’t be counted. It’s quite absolutist.

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By: Emma

Emma — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:17:40 +0000

For more on narcophobia, see Prof Frank Dikotter, co-author of “Narcotic Culture: A History of Drugs in China”, on the myth of the Chinese opium plague: video lecture, essay, book. Under prohibition, global per population use of cocaine, amphetamines, MDMA, psychedelics, cannabis, etc has increased. The only possible exception is opioids: Around 1909, opioid use in most of the world was about the same or lower than today, but in China it was much higher (UNODC, 100 Years). Dikotter details how 80-90% of Chinese opium use was for medical purposes (before aspirin, quinine, and anti-biotics) and how biased Christian missionaries greatly exaggerated the harms of opium and levels of addiction (because sick people used opium they falsely claimed that opium inevitably led to sickness and death). Thanks to narcophobic lies, every year millions of cancer patients die in terrible pain without access to opioids (see WHO Access to Controlled Medications). Yet the UNODC continues to use moral-panic fears of the “opium plague” as the primary justification for prohibition.

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By: allan420

allan420 — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:17:49 +0000

sign on to the the Vienna Declaration:

Vienna Declaration

The Vienna Declaration

The criminalisation of illicit drug users is fuelling the HIV epidemic and has resulted in overwhelmingly negative health and social consequences. A full policy reorientation is needed.

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By: strayan

strayan — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:14:26 +0000

Holy hell, I just found this: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/prominent-leaders-speak-out-on-marijuana-in-california-97303409.html

Highlights:

Gil Kerlikowske, Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy:

Legalizing marijuana would saddle the government with the dual burden of regulating a new legal market while continuing to pay for the negative side-effects that are associated with an underground market.

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Joe Stewart , Executive Director, California Narcotics Officers Association:

If the (Tax Cannabis 2010) initiative passes, transportation companies would be powerless to prevent employees who had tested positive from driving busses or taxis. Imagine your child being on a school bus driven by someone who has tested positive for being under the influence of marijuana. If this initiative passes, even inmates in prisons and county jails will be permitted to possess marijuana.

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Bishop Ron Allen, President of the International Faith Based Coalition:

I had a good year in 2009; I only buried six youths related to drugs and drug overdoses. I can certainly tell you, if marijuana is legalized it will be a dark day in the State of California. If marijuana is legalized in the state of California, crime will increase, murder will increase.

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By: strayan

strayan — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:48:06 +0000

I don’t get it, it is acceptable to give amphetamine type stimulants to pilots flying fighter jets, but not drivers?

And if they’re so concerned about drugged driving, why don’t they test drivers for caffeine too?

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By: denmark

denmark — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:25:19 +0000

There is a growing amount of Pro’s for ending the war on drugs. How Prohibition has survived this long is a mystery. And yes, I understand the greed and moral crap end of the debate is hugely responsible.
My morals are just fine and I do believe the very thought of forcing morals on anyone, and in this case the drug war, is archaic, outdated, and ridiculous. Therefore, those who are promoting continuing the drug war are deluded and lacking in meaningful morals. In fact they lack proper ethical behavior.

Recently heard that the governor of Washington state cut the corrections budget by 175 million. Or something to that effect.

We left a military base in Utah, we lived there as civilian employees for the Dept. of the Army. Sorry if that dissappoints some of you, that being working for the g’ment. Have decided typing the name of the army base online wouldn’t be a good idea, but will tell you it was west of Salt Lake City.
So relieved to be out of there.

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By: mikekinseattle

mikekinseattle — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:38:44 +0000

And, of course, we can’t comment at the site in response to the entry about drugged driving in Montana, because they don’t want us to post any facts that contradict their bullshit. Let freedom ring.

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By: Duncan

Duncan — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:52:23 +0000

Then there’s that double blind study released recently that shows that potheads drive as well as straight people. But what the heck do we need evidence for when everybody’s decided that the facts are what they think they are.

So anyway here’s a fellow from AZ who got busted for DUI for cannabis. He wasn’t pulled over for erratic driving, they served a search warrant on his home and “Officers told Montes the search warrant included his blood and urine, which he provided. Montes’ urine tested positive for marijuana, so he was also charged with DUI drugs.
http://tinyurl.com/25eweho

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By: Captain Spaulding

Captain Spaulding — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:46:27 +0000

If I lived in Montana I would get drunk and stoned every day. Oh wait I do that here, Bwhahaha.

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By: Just Legalize It

Just Legalize It — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:26:07 +0000

im so sick and tired of hearing about “drugged driving”…. not because i think people should be driving messed up or anything… but that term is used a lot when talking about marijuana and driving….

and i think that term is used so statistics from other drugs can be lumped in with marijuana to make it look like there is a big problem when in reality, there isnt. as far as marijuana is concerned anyways.

id gladly drive next to 50 high people instead of 1 drunk person… or 1 person that is sleep driving on ambien

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