Comments on: Judge Jim Gray

By: denmark

denmark — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:58 +0000

The medical marijuana movement has been a concern of mine as well. I’m pleased people are getting the med however there are many left out of the loop who do need it for one reason or another. – Amsterdam has medical mj but it’s cheaper for patients to purchase in a Coffee Shop.

Gray did say: “drug prohibition is the golden goose of terrorism.”

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By: Jillian

Jillian — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:51:39 +0000

7,000 people were murdered by the Mexican drug cartels last year because we in the US kept marijuana illegal, many of the victims were children, police officers and politicians. This year the cartels are on track to kill at least 9,000 more. Who supports keeping it illegal?

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By: Bruce

Bruce — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:59:00 +0000

Great posts/
zoning issues
Cannamart lol
didn’t venture outside his area of expertise,,,
It takes a unique individual to venture outside the prameters of our heavily conditioned slot-car upbringing..

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By: strayan

strayan — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:22:29 +0000

By: Just me

Just me — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:30:41 +0000

No I dont think the judge dismissed MMJ , its just that after cannabis is legalized it will be a moot subject.

I for one Will grow when legal. I like green things and dont mind helping a sick person get some cheap stuff for them selves.Cant let the big companies have all the fun.

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By: Daniel E. Williams

Daniel E. Williams — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:26:11 +0000

ezrydn~

I didn’t say he was being dismissive, at least not in the pejorative sense. Only that the judge, as someone advocating full repeal, cited medical marijuana as a silly distraction, and moot once cannabis is available to all – not just the sick. I echo his “hooray” for that scenario.

But what if CA doesn’t pass the November Initiative? Yes, they’ll try again. But in the interim over 750,000 Americans, many of them in CA, will be arrested for simple possession and have their lives and futures compromised. What is dismissive, and in the pejorative sense, is that some inside drug policy reform consider those 750,000+ individuals to be collateral damage.

I know it’s a hypothetical question, but I can’t help but keep asking how much further along we’d be had medical marijuana not been the primary focus inside the drug policy reform movement. And I believe medical marijuana advocates, especially those stating full repeal to be the end game, are just whistling past the graveyard when it comes to the growing skepticism over the abuse of medical marijuana’s original premise.

When those truly deserving of medical marijuana get lumped together with those blatantly taking advantage of the spirit of the law, you just have to know trouble is on the near horizon.

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By: ezrydn

ezrydn — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:10:13 +0000

Gray hit the basic points and didn’t venture outside his area of expertise. Ya gotta give him credit for that.

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By: Douglas Willinger

Douglas Willinger — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:51:50 +0000

The Judge left out the two groups that profit the most from the drug war and which helped bring it into existence:

7) Big Pharm
Big Tobacco

Remeber your history contained within here about the early USDA crusdae that started prohibition via Harvey Wiley in cohots with William Randolf Hearst’s yellow journalism:

http://freedomofmedicineanddiet.blogspot.com/2008_08_01_archive.html

http://freedomofmedicineanddiet.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html

It’s all about criminal mercantilism!

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By: strayan

strayan — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:57:54 +0000

People love that organic shit kaptinemo. The only reason the cigarette industry don’t sell it is because they can still get away with lacing their [reconstituted] tobacco with ammonia compounds (which helps the body to absorb as much nicotine as possible).

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By: kaptinemo

kaptinemo — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:18:51 +0000

“But honestly, don’t expect a whole lot of people to actually grow their own. Americans are generally too lazy, impatient and/or “busy” to produce the quality cannabis they desire.”

Said it batter than I could. And it’s a point which the tobacco companies are very well aware of.

As always, once legal, the market will create ‘stratification’: You’ll have your cannabis version of wine snobs, and those who will want the weed equivalent of whatever cheap rotgut there is now. The more (haughty sniff) ‘discerning’ customer will seek out the most obscure and expensive stuff there is, and Joe Blo will just want to ‘grab and go’ at the local cannamart.

But the commercial suppliers will cater to the entire spectrum…just as is done with alcohol. Damn few will have the time or patience to do (chuckling) ‘organic’.

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