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	<description>by Pete Guither</description>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/how-gil-kerlikowske-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-15070</link>
		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said they were zealots.
I said they were Nazi&#039;s offspring.

PSP You can&#039;t learn about Ganja/Hemp from censored school books. Therefore trying to teach about it as an academic, leaves zealots. Far more dangerous and ignorant than those knowing little or nothing. They only have to learn. You must unlearn, and have the courage and conviction to unlearn all that academic horshit to maintain rehab corporations profits. Then step back and see why this war is a cash cow if it perpetuates, nothing if its legal or zero tolerance. The only thing that over rides Kooky Kurly&#039;s blatant lapdog boot licking is his utter stupidity pushing lies and jailing sick people. Sabotage is too young to sound like a wrinkled gray haired aqualung drooling over piles of cash from the innocent blood of American children. Raped and pillaged to perpetuate this fraud. He&#039;s still Naive, with a lingering stench of Klintoon and Uncle Rahm. Terrorists DEAth Merchant&#039;s are the scum of the earth traitors persecuting and stealing jobs from  Americans, period. Either they already know this and choose to do it anyway, or they&#039;re too stupid to be carrying guns.
Have a Nice Day

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ntg5wy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al Capone&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Shadow_of_the_Swastika.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watergate&lt;/A&gt; were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ganja//Hemp&lt;/A&gt;. While GOP and DNC continue to bicker over nonsense. Farmers still can&#039;t grow. Drugs and Ganja are Gateways to prison profits and cop-shops bloated budgets, forfeiture and confiscations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said they were zealots.<br />
I said they were Nazi&#8217;s offspring.</p>
<p>PSP You can&#8217;t learn about Ganja/Hemp from censored school books. Therefore trying to teach about it as an academic, leaves zealots. Far more dangerous and ignorant than those knowing little or nothing. They only have to learn. You must unlearn, and have the courage and conviction to unlearn all that academic horshit to maintain rehab corporations profits. Then step back and see why this war is a cash cow if it perpetuates, nothing if its legal or zero tolerance. The only thing that over rides Kooky Kurly&#8217;s blatant lapdog boot licking is his utter stupidity pushing lies and jailing sick people. Sabotage is too young to sound like a wrinkled gray haired aqualung drooling over piles of cash from the innocent blood of American children. Raped and pillaged to perpetuate this fraud. He&#8217;s still Naive, with a lingering stench of Klintoon and Uncle Rahm. Terrorists DEAth Merchant&#8217;s are the scum of the earth traitors persecuting and stealing jobs from  Americans, period. Either they already know this and choose to do it anyway, or they&#8217;re too stupid to be carrying guns.<br />
Have a Nice Day</p>
<p><a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ntg5wy" rel="nofollow">Al Capone</a> and <a HREF="http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Shadow_of_the_Swastika.html" rel="nofollow">Watergate</a> were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or <a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092" rel="nofollow">Ganja//Hemp</a>. While GOP and DNC continue to bicker over nonsense. Farmers still can&#8217;t grow. Drugs and Ganja are Gateways to prison profits and cop-shops bloated budgets, forfeiture and confiscations.</p>
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		<title>By: Floating car</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/how-gil-kerlikowske-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-15038</link>
		<dc:creator>Floating car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drive a metropolitan-area bus in a city of 1 million people. It is fulltime rostered shiftwork and I have 23 years experience, with many written and phoned-in commendations from passengers too, probably more than most of the approximately 800 drivers in the company. 
But without the relaxing and transformational powers of the hemp plant, tedium and incendiary frustations left, right and centre would have caused me to quit long ago.
The violent, hysterical, ignorant suppression of the hemp plant is the real crime  and defines the conniving evil that is might-makes-right politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drive a metropolitan-area bus in a city of 1 million people. It is fulltime rostered shiftwork and I have 23 years experience, with many written and phoned-in commendations from passengers too, probably more than most of the approximately 800 drivers in the company.<br />
But without the relaxing and transformational powers of the hemp plant, tedium and incendiary frustations left, right and centre would have caused me to quit long ago.<br />
The violent, hysterical, ignorant suppression of the hemp plant is the real crime  and defines the conniving evil that is might-makes-right politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/how-gil-kerlikowske-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-14870</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Policy Studies Prof:

Being better than John Walters is not much of a recommendation, but I will give you that -- Kerlikowske is far better than Walters.

However, to say that he is &quot;fair and gives science a chance, which is much more than other agencies,&quot; seems to indicate that you didn&#039;t bother to read this post.

The NHTSA, which conducted the study, was fair and rigorous in their attention to science.  They conducted a study with interesting information, but were clear to point out its limitations and what it &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; say.

Kerlikowske immediately jumped on that and twisted it to mean what he wanted it to mean, despite the fact that it was completely contrary to the science.

If Kevin Sabet has been whispering in his ear that they shouldn&#039;t be twisting science that way, then I apologize to him, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that the leadership in the ONDCP is blatantly lying.

I wasn&#039;t portraying them necessarily as zealots, but rather as liars.  Now I could be wrong and they just created an entire public policy and promoted it to the world in Vienna totally based on a study they didn&#039;t bother to actually read, but that&#039;s not much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Policy Studies Prof:</p>
<p>Being better than John Walters is not much of a recommendation, but I will give you that &#8212; Kerlikowske is far better than Walters.</p>
<p>However, to say that he is &#8220;fair and gives science a chance, which is much more than other agencies,&#8221; seems to indicate that you didn&#8217;t bother to read this post.</p>
<p>The NHTSA, which conducted the study, was fair and rigorous in their attention to science.  They conducted a study with interesting information, but were clear to point out its limitations and what it <i>didn&#8217;t</i> say.</p>
<p>Kerlikowske immediately jumped on that and twisted it to mean what he wanted it to mean, despite the fact that it was completely contrary to the science.</p>
<p>If Kevin Sabet has been whispering in his ear that they shouldn&#8217;t be twisting science that way, then I apologize to him, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the leadership in the ONDCP is blatantly lying.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t portraying them necessarily as zealots, but rather as liars.  Now I could be wrong and they just created an entire public policy and promoted it to the world in Vienna totally based on a study they didn&#8217;t bother to actually read, but that&#8217;s not much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Policy Studies Prof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Policy Studies Prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an academic studying drug policy for more than 30 years, I can say that Gil Kerlikowske is the best thing that ever happened to ONDCP. He is fair and gives science a chance, which is much more than other agencies. 

As for Kevin Sabet, he is actually respected even among the reformers. He is fair minded and obviously is extremely well-learned on these issues. Why don&#039;t you guys give these guys a break?  Just because they subscribe to a different viewpoint than yourselves, you should not attack their character and portray them as zealots.  They are far from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an academic studying drug policy for more than 30 years, I can say that Gil Kerlikowske is the best thing that ever happened to ONDCP. He is fair and gives science a chance, which is much more than other agencies. </p>
<p>As for Kevin Sabet, he is actually respected even among the reformers. He is fair minded and obviously is extremely well-learned on these issues. Why don&#8217;t you guys give these guys a break?  Just because they subscribe to a different viewpoint than yourselves, you should not attack their character and portray them as zealots.  They are far from that.</p>
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		<title>By: brian bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my pleasure Pete!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my pleasure Pete!</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread25488.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MJ Legalization? A White House Rebuttal, Finally&lt;/A&gt;
CN Source: Christian Science Monitor 3.12.10 D.C.
The Obama White House has finally laid out its most thorough, reasoned rebuttal to arguments for marijuana legalization – countering a campaign that is gaining alarming momentum at the state level.

&quot;The president’s tough position was delivered in early March by his “drug czar,” Gil Kerlikowske, in a private talk before police chiefs in California&quot; – which is ground zero for this debate.

&lt;I&gt;“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical”.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cannabis and Driving&lt;/A&gt;

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
~ Thomas Jefferson&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread25488.shtml" rel="nofollow">MJ Legalization? A White House Rebuttal, Finally</a><br />
CN Source: Christian Science Monitor 3.12.10 D.C.<br />
The Obama White House has finally laid out its most thorough, reasoned rebuttal to arguments for marijuana legalization – countering a campaign that is gaining alarming momentum at the state level.</p>
<p>&#8220;The president’s tough position was delivered in early March by his “drug czar,” Gil Kerlikowske, in a private talk before police chiefs in California&#8221; – which is ground zero for this debate.</p>
<p><i>“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical”.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109" rel="nofollow">Cannabis and Driving</a></p>
<p>“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”<br />
~ Thomas Jefferson</i></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Brian.  That&#039;s a pretty clear chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Brian.  That&#8217;s a pretty clear chart.</p>
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		<title>By: brian bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s an easy way to address the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.briancbennett.com/antidotes/crashes-vs-drug-use.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;drug use versus driving mayhem&lt;/a&gt; claims. it only took a short while to get the latest traffic data and then build the graph and page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s an easy way to address the <a href="http://www.briancbennett.com/antidotes/crashes-vs-drug-use.htm" rel="nofollow">drug use versus driving mayhem</a> claims. it only took a short while to get the latest traffic data and then build the graph and page.</p>
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		<title>By: claygooding</title>
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		<dc:creator>claygooding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I foresee a time when being an ex-DEA will be an embarrassment and stigma as bad as it is now to be a pothead.
And being the drug czar will be an end to their political appointee career,but then of course,all ex DEA and ONDCP&#039;s have the companies that support prohibition to fall back on,just look at the where the prior drug czars work now,if 
they didn&#039;t steal enough money from their budgets too retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I foresee a time when being an ex-DEA will be an embarrassment and stigma as bad as it is now to be a pothead.<br />
And being the drug czar will be an end to their political appointee career,but then of course,all ex DEA and ONDCP&#8217;s have the companies that support prohibition to fall back on,just look at the where the prior drug czars work now,if<br />
they didn&#8217;t steal enough money from their budgets too retire.</p>
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		<title>By: denmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>denmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely appreciate this comment &lt;i&gt;Of course, the prohibs never consider that someday the party will be over, and those they’ve hurt will be in a position to return the favor, in spades, after prohibition ends. For too many good, decent people, far  too many, tens of millions in fact, have had their lives ruined by the organizations that people like Mr. Sabet support and so stridently defend.&lt;i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely appreciate this comment <i>Of course, the prohibs never consider that someday the party will be over, and those they’ve hurt will be in a position to return the favor, in spades, after prohibition ends. For too many good, decent people, far  too many, tens of millions in fact, have had their lives ruined by the organizations that people like Mr. Sabet support and so stridently defend.</i><i></i></p>
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