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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5YZF5gafI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Peacelike Mongoose by James Thurber&lt;/A&gt; youtube

In cobra country a mongoose was born one day who didn&#039;t want to fight cobras or anything else. The word spread from mongoose to mongoose that there was a mongoose who didn&#039;t want to fight cobras. If he didn&#039;t want to fight anything else, it was his own business, but it was the duty of every mongoose to kill cobras or be killed by cobras.

&quot;Why?&quot; asked the peacelike mongoose, and the word went around that the strange new mongoose was not only pro-cobra and anti-mongoose but intellectually curious and against the ideals and traditions of mongooism.

&quot;He is crazy,&quot; cried the young mongoose&#039;s father.
&quot;He is sick,&quot; said his mother.
&quot;He is a coward,&quot; shouted his brothers.
&quot;He is a mongoosexual,&quot; whispered his sisters.

Strangers who had never laid eyes on the peacelike mongoose remembered that they had seen him crawling on his stomach, or trying on cobra hoods, or plotting the violent overthrow of Mongoosia.
&quot;I am trying to use reason and intelligence,&quot; said the strange new mongoose.

&quot;Reason is six-sevenths of treason,&quot; said one of his neighbors.
&quot;Intelligence is what the enemy uses,&quot; said another.

Finally, the rumor spread that the mongoose had venom in his sting, like a cobra, and he was tried, convicted by a show of paws, and condemned to banishment.

Moral: Ashes to ashes, and clay to clay,
if the enemy doesn&#039;t get you your own folks may.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=z9ydWuZDU4jK0PbMr8ck88nE2I%2B%2FYmBm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How the DEA Scrubbed Thomas Jefferson&#039;s&lt;/A&gt;
Monticello Poppy Garden from Public Memory
By Jim Hogshire / Feral House
Visitors to Monticello don&#039;t learn how Jefferson cultivated poppies, and his personal opium use may as well never have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5YZF5gafI" rel="nofollow">The Peacelike Mongoose by James Thurber</a> youtube</p>
<p>In cobra country a mongoose was born one day who didn&#8217;t want to fight cobras or anything else. The word spread from mongoose to mongoose that there was a mongoose who didn&#8217;t want to fight cobras. If he didn&#8217;t want to fight anything else, it was his own business, but it was the duty of every mongoose to kill cobras or be killed by cobras.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why?&#8221; asked the peacelike mongoose, and the word went around that the strange new mongoose was not only pro-cobra and anti-mongoose but intellectually curious and against the ideals and traditions of mongooism.</p>
<p>&#8220;He is crazy,&#8221; cried the young mongoose&#8217;s father.<br />
&#8220;He is sick,&#8221; said his mother.<br />
&#8220;He is a coward,&#8221; shouted his brothers.<br />
&#8220;He is a mongoosexual,&#8221; whispered his sisters.</p>
<p>Strangers who had never laid eyes on the peacelike mongoose remembered that they had seen him crawling on his stomach, or trying on cobra hoods, or plotting the violent overthrow of Mongoosia.<br />
&#8220;I am trying to use reason and intelligence,&#8221; said the strange new mongoose.</p>
<p>&#8220;Reason is six-sevenths of treason,&#8221; said one of his neighbors.<br />
&#8220;Intelligence is what the enemy uses,&#8221; said another.</p>
<p>Finally, the rumor spread that the mongoose had venom in his sting, like a cobra, and he was tried, convicted by a show of paws, and condemned to banishment.</p>
<p>Moral: Ashes to ashes, and clay to clay,<br />
if the enemy doesn&#8217;t get you your own folks may.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=z9ydWuZDU4jK0PbMr8ck88nE2I%2B%2FYmBm" rel="nofollow">How the DEA Scrubbed Thomas Jefferson&#8217;s</a><br />
Monticello Poppy Garden from Public Memory<br />
By Jim Hogshire / Feral House<br />
Visitors to Monticello don&#8217;t learn how Jefferson cultivated poppies, and his personal opium use may as well never have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/fearing-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13085</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KBCraig,

You may disagree with their decision, yet the only reason that they are able to have active cops working with them is that there is no way that they can be accused of not doing their job.

If it became known that LEAP members were failing to do what they were required to do in their job, then merely joining the organization could end up being a reason for being fired.

David Bratzer is effective because he makes it clear that he&#039;s speaking on his own and not sabotaging his unit.

LEAP has a very tricky line to walk with active duty members.  You may prefer that they go with active disobedience and to hell with the consequences, but they have decided to fight from within the system in order for their message to have more power.

LEAP has done tremendous things in the short time they&#039;ve been around.  It&#039;s pretty disingenuous to say &quot;screw them&quot; just because you disagree with one decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KBCraig,</p>
<p>You may disagree with their decision, yet the only reason that they are able to have active cops working with them is that there is no way that they can be accused of not doing their job.</p>
<p>If it became known that LEAP members were failing to do what they were required to do in their job, then merely joining the organization could end up being a reason for being fired.</p>
<p>David Bratzer is effective because he makes it clear that he&#8217;s speaking on his own and not sabotaging his unit.</p>
<p>LEAP has a very tricky line to walk with active duty members.  You may prefer that they go with active disobedience and to hell with the consequences, but they have decided to fight from within the system in order for their message to have more power.</p>
<p>LEAP has done tremendous things in the short time they&#8217;ve been around.  It&#8217;s pretty disingenuous to say &#8220;screw them&#8221; just because you disagree with one decision.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/fearing-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13077</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw LEAP. When active duty cop Brad Jardis declared that he could not, in good conscience, arrest a medical marijuana user, LEAP kicked him out of their speakers bureau.

So, they TALK a good game, but when one of their members actually walks the walk, they throw him under the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw LEAP. When active duty cop Brad Jardis declared that he could not, in good conscience, arrest a medical marijuana user, LEAP kicked him out of their speakers bureau.</p>
<p>So, they TALK a good game, but when one of their members actually walks the walk, they throw him under the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: ezrydn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt David will continue to speak out.  He just doesn&#039;t have to tell his boss where or when, especially when it&#039;s off duty and out of uniform.  If ever there was a demonstration of a &quot;forced lock step,&quot; this is it.

Truly, it&#039;s the face of FEAR showing on the part of the prohibs.  More and more, they&#039;re taking to trying drastic measures to shut us up.  Meanwhile, state legislatures around the country are beginning to turn a deaf ear to the LEOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt David will continue to speak out.  He just doesn&#8217;t have to tell his boss where or when, especially when it&#8217;s off duty and out of uniform.  If ever there was a demonstration of a &#8220;forced lock step,&#8221; this is it.</p>
<p>Truly, it&#8217;s the face of FEAR showing on the part of the prohibs.  More and more, they&#8217;re taking to trying drastic measures to shut us up.  Meanwhile, state legislatures around the country are beginning to turn a deaf ear to the LEOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Radical</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/fearing-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13057</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DarthNole</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/03/fearing-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-12980</link>
		<dc:creator>DarthNole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VOTE for Legalizing Marijuana on Change.org:

I am hoping that MPP, NORML, SSDP, LEAP and others will use their email lists and get behind this vote. They ask us to go support their videos, questions, ideas…. so hopefully they will rally behind us and get their email lists involved. The idea has dropped into 8th place, and there are many that are very close behind. Now is the time for us to be active!

9 days to go….

There is time to secure our spot in the discussion and there is plenty of time to lose it. What is your choice??? 

MPP, NORML, SSDP, LEAP…. Can we count on you???

http://bit.ly/cMZCHB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VOTE for Legalizing Marijuana on Change.org:</p>
<p>I am hoping that MPP, NORML, SSDP, LEAP and others will use their email lists and get behind this vote. They ask us to go support their videos, questions, ideas…. so hopefully they will rally behind us and get their email lists involved. The idea has dropped into 8th place, and there are many that are very close behind. Now is the time for us to be active!</p>
<p>9 days to go….</p>
<p>There is time to secure our spot in the discussion and there is plenty of time to lose it. What is your choice??? </p>
<p>MPP, NORML, SSDP, LEAP…. Can we count on you???</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/cMZCHB" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cMZCHB</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#45; Drug WarRant</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#45; Drug WarRant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fearing the message  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: claygooding</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to me that the British police don&#039;t carry guns,except when going on known dangerous assignments and our police look like nazi storm troopers,just to patrol the streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to me that the British police don&#8217;t carry guns,except when going on known dangerous assignments and our police look like nazi storm troopers,just to patrol the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete is correct, it is Fear that motivates the Police.

Why would any man, armed to the teeth, shoot a Corgi (my cat is more dangerous)?  Fear causes that.

Why would the same warrior shoot an unarmed child and her mother?  Again, Fear.

Day in and day out, Officers fear for their lives.  Over time, it has become acceptable to allow those fears to guide their actions because they know the public cannot hold them accountable.

We need to start holding them accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete is correct, it is Fear that motivates the Police.</p>
<p>Why would any man, armed to the teeth, shoot a Corgi (my cat is more dangerous)?  Fear causes that.</p>
<p>Why would the same warrior shoot an unarmed child and her mother?  Again, Fear.</p>
<p>Day in and day out, Officers fear for their lives.  Over time, it has become acceptable to allow those fears to guide their actions because they know the public cannot hold them accountable.</p>
<p>We need to start holding them accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find funny is that in denying Bratzer to speak out it has the effect of amplifying the message even more. They are boldly saying &quot; What bratzer has to say is the truth and we know it and wont let him speak it!&quot; There for they are doing more damage to thier lie than just letting him speak. Sounds like a rock( us reformers) and hard place(the prohibition wall we have them pushed up against) situation we got them in.YAY US !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find funny is that in denying Bratzer to speak out it has the effect of amplifying the message even more. They are boldly saying &#8221; What bratzer has to say is the truth and we know it and wont let him speak it!&#8221; There for they are doing more damage to thier lie than just letting him speak. Sounds like a rock( us reformers) and hard place(the prohibition wall we have them pushed up against) situation we got them in.YAY US !!</p>
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