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	<title>Comments on: California legalization by the numbers</title>
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	<description>by Pete Guither</description>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way to defeat the bill would be to distribute marijuana on the day of the election.

The stoners would then forget to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to defeat the bill would be to distribute marijuana on the day of the election.</p>
<p>The stoners would then forget to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah Daigle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah Daigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nailed it, Pete. As a Californian in the thick of it, I 100% agree with your assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nailed it, Pete. As a Californian in the thick of it, I 100% agree with your assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Drifter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that many federal employees (working in California) whose positions are not considered sensitive and which in turn exempts them from the required random drug testing are cannabis users themselves. Maybe the fear of being busted by a local cop and having the police forward the arresting report to OPM (Office of Personnel Management) and ultimately costing them their careers might persuade them to vote for legalizing cannabis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that many federal employees (working in California) whose positions are not considered sensitive and which in turn exempts them from the required random drug testing are cannabis users themselves. Maybe the fear of being busted by a local cop and having the police forward the arresting report to OPM (Office of Personnel Management) and ultimately costing them their careers might persuade them to vote for legalizing cannabis.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women are the wildcard group in all of this. Scared for their kids, scared of the drug violence in the community, prohibs have an in. I would emphasise the over 21 legalization angle-if you can drink scotch in the privacy of your own home as a taxpaying adult, why can&#039;t you fire up a joint? Keeping pot illegal for over 21 year olds makes it even more likely it gets into the hands of underage users because there are no incentives for dealers to refrain from selling to teenagers. Licensed and legalized pot would be sold by people who have to comply with the law-and those people would also have to be over 21 as well. Those kids on the corner or in the school gym would have to find another form of work.

I&#039;d also emphasize the public safety angle. To free up room for pot sellers and smokers, somebody who should stay in jail gets out a little early, or gets supervised a little less while out because the probation and parole burden is so heavy. Take the pot people off the list, and those people in and out of jail who need to be watched closely get watched closely.

California&#039;s experience with medical mj should help. Those people are peaceful and law-abiding (except for pot laws), are clearly adults uninterested in selling/distributing to children, and are overall not disruptive to peace and order of the communities they live in.

The money angle is important as well. Whatever your opinion is of pot, is it worth it spending scarce dollars to prosecute people who partake of a drug that is more likely to make people passive, relaxed? Who when high are of little danger to the community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women are the wildcard group in all of this. Scared for their kids, scared of the drug violence in the community, prohibs have an in. I would emphasise the over 21 legalization angle-if you can drink scotch in the privacy of your own home as a taxpaying adult, why can&#8217;t you fire up a joint? Keeping pot illegal for over 21 year olds makes it even more likely it gets into the hands of underage users because there are no incentives for dealers to refrain from selling to teenagers. Licensed and legalized pot would be sold by people who have to comply with the law-and those people would also have to be over 21 as well. Those kids on the corner or in the school gym would have to find another form of work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also emphasize the public safety angle. To free up room for pot sellers and smokers, somebody who should stay in jail gets out a little early, or gets supervised a little less while out because the probation and parole burden is so heavy. Take the pot people off the list, and those people in and out of jail who need to be watched closely get watched closely.</p>
<p>California&#8217;s experience with medical mj should help. Those people are peaceful and law-abiding (except for pot laws), are clearly adults uninterested in selling/distributing to children, and are overall not disruptive to peace and order of the communities they live in.</p>
<p>The money angle is important as well. Whatever your opinion is of pot, is it worth it spending scarce dollars to prosecute people who partake of a drug that is more likely to make people passive, relaxed? Who when high are of little danger to the community?</p>
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		<title>By: ezrydn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezrydn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>allen... You got the 2-DVD set?  Great historical library.  Also FREE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>allen&#8230; You got the 2-DVD set?  Great historical library.  Also FREE!</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ez... Granny&#039;s is the best compilation out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ez&#8230; Granny&#8217;s is the best compilation out there!</p>
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		<title>By: ezrydn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezrydn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you&#039;re prepared when the &quot;testing&quot; questions arise, Google &quot;Granny Storm Crow.&quot;  Get the list!!  Mine&#039;s in my phone now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you&#8217;re prepared when the &#8220;testing&#8221; questions arise, Google &#8220;Granny Storm Crow.&#8221;  Get the list!!  Mine&#8217;s in my phone now.</p>
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		<title>By: Just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....And weild that vorpal blade we will Allan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..And weild that vorpal blade we will Allan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point reparations remains as a discussion among us. That there needs to be at least acknowledgemnt for that litany of drug war deaths, is not negotiable, after that we&#039;ll see. When we get there...

But that folks like Donald Scott&#039;s wife (she used to cruise the wwweb on occasion), the family of Capt Odom and her crew and all the rest - including the wrongful LE deaths - should remain unspoken (except by us) is utterly catastrophic. As our media continues to catch on to what we&#039;ve been pounding them with since forever, we in turn need to keep ratcheting up &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; rhetoric. We &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; extreme positions, if only as the sharpened points of our movement. Had we not had folks that initially raised (and maintained) the reparations issue or stood adamant for the &quot;legalize all drugs&quot; position, we would not be where we are today. The attachment of LEAP&#039;s core criminal justice folks with us smot poking couch potato DPR types was inevitable and made us that more potent a force to be reckoned with.

The wwweb is and has been our domain, one which we&#039;ve held the high ground on since it&#039;s Al Gore beginnings... there is a reason we discuss publicly and they don&#039;t. We need to continue wielding that reason (and reasoning) like the vorpal blade it is. Snicker snack, as the fella said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point reparations remains as a discussion among us. That there needs to be at least acknowledgemnt for that litany of drug war deaths, is not negotiable, after that we&#8217;ll see. When we get there&#8230;</p>
<p>But that folks like Donald Scott&#8217;s wife (she used to cruise the wwweb on occasion), the family of Capt Odom and her crew and all the rest &#8211; including the wrongful LE deaths &#8211; should remain unspoken (except by us) is utterly catastrophic. As our media continues to catch on to what we&#8217;ve been pounding them with since forever, we in turn need to keep ratcheting up <i>our</i> rhetoric. We <i>need</i> extreme positions, if only as the sharpened points of our movement. Had we not had folks that initially raised (and maintained) the reparations issue or stood adamant for the &#8220;legalize all drugs&#8221; position, we would not be where we are today. The attachment of LEAP&#8217;s core criminal justice folks with us smot poking couch potato DPR types was inevitable and made us that more potent a force to be reckoned with.</p>
<p>The wwweb is and has been our domain, one which we&#8217;ve held the high ground on since it&#8217;s Al Gore beginnings&#8230; there is a reason we discuss publicly and they don&#8217;t. We need to continue wielding that reason (and reasoning) like the vorpal blade it is. Snicker snack, as the fella said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a interesting conversation with an elderly lady today. I see her from time to time. She was talking bout things on the TEE TEE NOOZ. Then out of the blue she said&quot; Did you hear they are trying to legalize marijuana in California?&quot;  (BING-MY LIGHT BULB CLICKED ON)

I Asked her what she thought of it. She said she thought it was crazy and what did I think of it.(GOTTA LOVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES)

I told her I would love to see it legal not only in Cali but, nation wide. Her eyes got big and ask&quot;Why in gods name would you want that?&quot;

I started by saying theres almost no pyhsical addiction to it, not to mention there are valuable medical uses for it and theres a &#039;POSSIBILITY&#039; of it being able to be used to treat or kill cancer cells.

Now I know some of you may be thinking I went off on a cure all rant. NO i didnt, I know it isnt and wouldnt.But I explained the Shaffer commision ,nixons war on drugs, the fact that prohibition makes drugs very valuable/reasoning for the terrible loss of life in Mexico and a few other FACTS we all know.

She came back with suprise on many of my FACTS. Told her these facts are well known. She asked why one wouldnt get addicted to the high content of nicotine in marijuana? I ask where she heard there was nicotine in it, She said the news from government on tv. I explained nicotine was made by cig comanies and put in cigs only, marijuana doesnt naturally have nicotine. &quot;OHHHH!&quot; The light went on in that head. I explained what happened to my father when he died of cancer and how medical marijuana could have helped with his pain and loss of appetite. She asked why there werent human studies and tests. I told her government wont allow it and keeps it illegal.We need to reschedule it and get government out of the way. She said&quot; Well for gods sake , it needs to be legal then!&quot;

My job is done today. :)  To bad I dont live in Cali where this conversation really could have helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a interesting conversation with an elderly lady today. I see her from time to time. She was talking bout things on the TEE TEE NOOZ. Then out of the blue she said&#8221; Did you hear they are trying to legalize marijuana in California?&#8221;  (BING-MY LIGHT BULB CLICKED ON)</p>
<p>I Asked her what she thought of it. She said she thought it was crazy and what did I think of it.(GOTTA LOVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES)</p>
<p>I told her I would love to see it legal not only in Cali but, nation wide. Her eyes got big and ask&#8221;Why in gods name would you want that?&#8221;</p>
<p>I started by saying theres almost no pyhsical addiction to it, not to mention there are valuable medical uses for it and theres a &#8216;POSSIBILITY&#8217; of it being able to be used to treat or kill cancer cells.</p>
<p>Now I know some of you may be thinking I went off on a cure all rant. NO i didnt, I know it isnt and wouldnt.But I explained the Shaffer commision ,nixons war on drugs, the fact that prohibition makes drugs very valuable/reasoning for the terrible loss of life in Mexico and a few other FACTS we all know.</p>
<p>She came back with suprise on many of my FACTS. Told her these facts are well known. She asked why one wouldnt get addicted to the high content of nicotine in marijuana? I ask where she heard there was nicotine in it, She said the news from government on tv. I explained nicotine was made by cig comanies and put in cigs only, marijuana doesnt naturally have nicotine. &#8220;OHHHH!&#8221; The light went on in that head. I explained what happened to my father when he died of cancer and how medical marijuana could have helped with his pain and loss of appetite. She asked why there werent human studies and tests. I told her government wont allow it and keeps it illegal.We need to reschedule it and get government out of the way. She said&#8221; Well for gods sake , it needs to be legal then!&#8221;</p>
<p>My job is done today. <img src='http://www.drugwarrant.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   To bad I dont live in Cali where this conversation really could have helped.</p>
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