Comments on: Stupid OpEd of the Week http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/ by Pete Guither Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:22:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TrebleBass http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11877 TrebleBass Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:28:17 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11877 "Teenagers who laugh at the anti-drug ads are probably part of the 33 percent of high school dropouts who will cost the nation $470 billion a year as they burden public health and welfare, turn to crime because they can’t sustain employment, fill our prisons and contribute to the 3,200 monthly drug-overdose deaths." The anti-drug mentality of these people is amazing. Here we have a guy with such a punitive attitude towards drugs, he is literally willing to accuse KIDS of costing the nation 470 billion dollars, even accuse them of "turning to crime", just because they laugh at an anti-drug ad. "Innocent until proven guilty" has apparently been replaced by "if you laugh at an anti-drug ad as a kid, we'll assume you'll commit a crime someday". “Teenagers who laugh at the anti-drug ads are probably part of the 33 percent of high school dropouts who will cost the nation $470 billion a year as they burden public health and welfare, turn to crime because they can’t sustain employment, fill our prisons and contribute to the 3,200 monthly drug-overdose deaths.”

The anti-drug mentality of these people is amazing. Here we have a guy with such a punitive attitude towards drugs, he is literally willing to accuse KIDS of costing the nation 470 billion dollars, even accuse them of “turning to crime”, just because they laugh at an anti-drug ad. “Innocent until proven guilty” has apparently been replaced by “if you laugh at an anti-drug ad as a kid, we’ll assume you’ll commit a crime someday”.

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]]> By: denmark http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11833 denmark Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:40:22 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11833 BuelahMan: Just as kaptinemo said "I have ceased trying to educate the willfully ignorant" is the stance taken up by myself as well. What I've done instead is approach people in person. The other day I went to buy printer paper and asked the clerk if they had hemp paper. He said "no, but I sure wish we did". That opened up a brief conversation, as they get paranoid while at work. He said, "it'll never be legalized." From that conversation I shared the various movements out there and got a yes head nod and asked him to become more active. I also gave him a business card with various web site addresses to go to. As far as the "survived the 60's" statement that doesn't ring true for everyone who grew up in the 60's, late sixties, such as myself. Heck, in 1972 I was walking around town with a petition to stop Prohibition for NORML. BuelahMan: Just as kaptinemo said “I have ceased trying to educate the willfully ignorant” is the stance taken up by myself as well. What I’ve done instead is approach people in person. The other day I went to buy printer paper and asked the clerk if they had hemp paper. He said “no, but I sure wish we did”. That opened up a brief conversation, as they get paranoid while at work. He said, “it’ll never be legalized.” From that conversation I shared the various movements out there and got a yes head nod and asked him to become more active. I also gave him a business card with various web site addresses to go to.

As far as the “survived the 60′s” statement that doesn’t ring true for everyone who grew up in the 60′s, late sixties, such as myself. Heck, in 1972 I was walking around town with a petition to stop Prohibition for NORML.

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]]> By: kaptinemo http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11827 kaptinemo Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:13:38 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11827 JustMe, if the goal was to 'win', then you have to wonder how our leaders intend to do so with losing strategies. Neither the War on Terra (not a misspelling) nor the War on (Some) Drugs has a chance of being won thanks to them being, in effect, 'insurgencies', i.e. 'guerilla wars'. The bloody butcher Mao Zedong had these kinds of conflicts pegged when he wrote: <i>""When the enemy advances, withdraw; when he stops, harass; when he tires, strike; when he retreats, pursue."</i> and <i>"The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea."</i> <i>Cartellistas</i> share the same characteristics as the terrorist. Which is why we can't win using methods that favor them. To beat them, you must starve them, and in the case of the <i>catellistas</i> that means removing their profits. And there's only one way to do that...and the prohibs refuse, on 'moral' grounds. Which makes them the cartels best buddies. They deserve each other... JustMe, if the goal was to ‘win’, then you have to wonder how our leaders intend to do so with losing strategies. Neither the War on Terra (not a misspelling) nor the War on (Some) Drugs has a chance of being won thanks to them being, in effect, ‘insurgencies’, i.e. ‘guerilla wars’. The bloody butcher Mao Zedong had these kinds of conflicts pegged when he wrote:

“”When the enemy advances, withdraw; when he stops, harass; when he tires, strike; when he retreats, pursue.”

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“The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.”

Cartellistas share the same characteristics as the terrorist. Which is why we can’t win using methods that favor them. To beat them, you must starve them, and in the case of the catellistas that means removing their profits. And there’s only one way to do that…and the prohibs refuse, on ‘moral’ grounds. Which makes them the cartels best buddies.

They deserve each other…

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]]> By: Pete http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11825 Pete Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:48:21 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11825 Brian, I agree 100% Brian, I agree 100%

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]]> By: brian bennett http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11824 brian bennett Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:36:37 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11824 the only way to "win" against terrorism is by living as brave people. we need to be brave enough to live free and take it as a given that every once in awhile some nut job or group of such is going to kill some of us. we should not be allowing that idea to paralyze us with fear or force us into committing military operations in the name of "fighting them over there." it's all absolutely absurd. they live in caves -- we kill them by remote control. the only way they have to hurt is is by using our own tools against us. foxnews and dicks like cheney are a terrorists best friend. the only way to “win” against terrorism is by living as brave people. we need to be brave enough to live free and take it as a given that every once in awhile some nut job or group of such is going to kill some of us.

we should not be allowing that idea to paralyze us with fear or force us into committing military operations in the name of “fighting them over there.” it’s all absolutely absurd.

they live in caves — we kill them by remote control. the only way they have to hurt is is by using our own tools against us. foxnews and dicks like cheney are a terrorists best friend.

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]]> By: Just me http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11805 Just me Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:19:06 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11805 In some ways this war on drugs(AKA the war on American citizens) reminds me of the war on terror. Now just so all know, Im not questioning our troops, just our leaders decisions. The war on terror is just the same in that you can kill "terrorist" leaders and there are 10 waiting to take thier place, as with drug dealers or those who head the cartels. Terrorism is a buisness to many of these people , and like any buisness there are those who will be willing to run it, reguardless of the danger , just as drug dealers and cartel leaders. If this comparision is true ,then as with the WOD's being a failure , wont the war on terrorists also be a failure and very costly? In some ways this war on drugs(AKA the war on American citizens) reminds me of the war on terror. Now just so all know, Im not questioning our troops, just our leaders decisions. The war on terror is just the same in that you can kill “terrorist” leaders and there are 10 waiting to take thier place, as with drug dealers or those who head the cartels. Terrorism is a buisness to many of these people , and like any buisness there are those who will be willing to run it, reguardless of the danger , just as drug dealers and cartel leaders.

If this comparision is true ,then as with the WOD’s being a failure , wont the war on terrorists also be a failure and very costly?

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]]> By: Just me http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11801 Just me Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:19:53 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11801 BuelahMan , thanks for posting that link. Man I have been there, not only with cannabis arguments but many other subject. It gets so tiring to try get these thick headed people to open up their mind. I commend you on your efforts with"MaryJane". I have recently taken a break from trying to educate these types on some subjects. I get such a headache and heartburn from it. UGGHH! So the battle must go on..... BuelahMan , thanks for posting that link. Man I have been there, not only with cannabis arguments but many other subject. It gets so tiring to try get these thick headed people to open up their mind. I commend you on your efforts with”MaryJane”. I have recently taken a break from trying to educate these types on some subjects. I get such a headache and heartburn from it. UGGHH! So the battle must go on…..

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]]> By: Just me http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11800 Just me Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:33:06 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11800 LOLOL You bet Kaptin !! LOLOL You bet Kaptin !!

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]]> By: nt109 http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11797 nt109 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:39:25 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11797 "More teens smoke pot than tobacco in many places because of the hoax perpetuated on society by legalization. " What nonsense. Please, who in the legalization movement is advocating that kids/teenagers should be able to obtain cannabis? It should be taxed and regulated like Alcohol. If someone is selling to minors then in that situation such an individual should be punished under the law. However, an average adult shouldn't be punished for making the WISE decision and using the substance that is many many times less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. You aren't going to stamp out marijuana use. There are 16 million Americans(AND GROWING) that CHOOSE to consume cannabis every month either recreationally or for medical reasons. Such individuals should not be punished. The market for cannabis will ALWAYS exist. So either there will be a legal market where responsible suppliers will cater to demand, or their will be a BLACK market where drug gangs and cartels fill the demand. Which do you think is better? “More teens smoke pot than tobacco in many places because of the hoax perpetuated on society by legalization. ”

What nonsense. Please, who in the legalization movement is advocating that kids/teenagers should be able to obtain cannabis? It should be taxed and regulated like Alcohol. If someone is selling to minors then in that situation such an individual should be punished under the law.
However, an average adult shouldn’t be punished for making the WISE decision and using the substance that is many many times less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. You aren’t going to stamp out marijuana use. There are 16 million Americans(AND GROWING) that CHOOSE to consume cannabis every month either recreationally or for medical reasons. Such individuals should not be punished.
The market for cannabis will ALWAYS exist. So either there will be a legal market where responsible suppliers will cater to demand, or their will be a BLACK market where drug gangs and cartels fill the demand. Which do you think is better?

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]]> By: we distort you deride http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/stupid-oped-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-11796 we distort you deride Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:38:02 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5423#comment-11796 This is your brain on drugs, this is your brain with a side of bacon and ham. Just say no. Drugs Are Really Expensive (DARE). Marijuana is a dangerous gateway drug two weeks after smoking your first joint you'll be shooting up, robbing your family to score more and being a general menace. Just ask these laughing teenagers. This is your brain on drugs, this is your brain with a side of bacon and ham. Just say no. Drugs Are Really Expensive (DARE). Marijuana is a dangerous gateway drug two weeks after smoking your first joint you’ll be shooting up, robbing your family to score more and being a general menace. Just ask these laughing teenagers.

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