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		<title>By: hughseyp</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-20614</link>
		<dc:creator>hughseyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi guys new here, forums looking good

hughseyp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys new here, forums looking good</p>
<p>hughseyp</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12608</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting, Bobby.  Where did you get the data about legalization leading to more people becoming addicted?  Because the evidence doesn&#039;t show that.

In countries where decriminalization has happened (such as Portugal), there has been no increase in addiction.

In fact, when you take the black market out of it, there&#039;s less incentive to try to get people addicted, so drugs are more likely to be safer and less likely to lead to serious dependency.  Also, in a legal and regulated market, those with a problem are more likely to be able to seek help.

There will be fewer people stealing or committing other crimes to get drugs because prices will be set by us, rather than by criminals.  And those using drugs won&#039;t be automatically tied into the criminal community.

Also, keep in mind that there are many ways of legalizing drugs — each one will be different.  It doesn&#039;t mean that heroin will be sold in the 7-11.  You might have to go to a clinic to get it.

Our communities will be far better off if we regulate drugs rather than turning it over to the criminals to do it for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting, Bobby.  Where did you get the data about legalization leading to more people becoming addicted?  Because the evidence doesn&#8217;t show that.</p>
<p>In countries where decriminalization has happened (such as Portugal), there has been no increase in addiction.</p>
<p>In fact, when you take the black market out of it, there&#8217;s less incentive to try to get people addicted, so drugs are more likely to be safer and less likely to lead to serious dependency.  Also, in a legal and regulated market, those with a problem are more likely to be able to seek help.</p>
<p>There will be fewer people stealing or committing other crimes to get drugs because prices will be set by us, rather than by criminals.  And those using drugs won&#8217;t be automatically tied into the criminal community.</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that there are many ways of legalizing drugs — each one will be different.  It doesn&#8217;t mean that heroin will be sold in the 7-11.  You might have to go to a clinic to get it.</p>
<p>Our communities will be far better off if we regulate drugs rather than turning it over to the criminals to do it for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12606</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legalizing drugs would involve offsetting a whole new set of problems that would be introduced by such an action. I realize the drug problem is devastatingly complex and drug cartels are in danger of ripping society to shreds, but making drugs legal would result in unimaginable negative aftereffects. More people would become addicted to legalized drugs and commit more crimes in order to feed their addiction. Although I am on the fence about legalizing cannabis, I am convinced that legalizing cocaine, speed, heroine or other popular &quot;hard&quot; drugs would be devastating to our communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legalizing drugs would involve offsetting a whole new set of problems that would be introduced by such an action. I realize the drug problem is devastatingly complex and drug cartels are in danger of ripping society to shreds, but making drugs legal would result in unimaginable negative aftereffects. More people would become addicted to legalized drugs and commit more crimes in order to feed their addiction. Although I am on the fence about legalizing cannabis, I am convinced that legalizing cocaine, speed, heroine or other popular &#8220;hard&#8221; drugs would be devastating to our communities.</p>
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		<title>By: denmark</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12572</link>
		<dc:creator>denmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re interested.  
Sorry, I don&#039;t know how to do the neat type of &quot;here&quot; links.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6883364.html

Drug cartel chief sentenced in secrecy
By DANE SCHILLER and JACQUEE PETCHEL Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
Feb. 24, 2010, 10:09PM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re interested.<br />
Sorry, I don&#8217;t know how to do the neat type of &#8220;here&#8221; links.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6883364.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6883364.html</a></p>
<p>Drug cartel chief sentenced in secrecy<br />
By DANE SCHILLER and JACQUEE PETCHEL Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle<br />
Feb. 24, 2010, 10:09PM</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12559</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley&#039;s had some technical issues with the site.  He&#039;s tweeted about it.  Doesn&#039;t appear to be roundup-related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley&#8217;s had some technical issues with the site.  He&#8217;s tweeted about it.  Doesn&#8217;t appear to be roundup-related.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12558</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Radley Balko, his site has been down all day, at least from my device.  Any chance that the roundup has begun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Radley Balko, his site has been down all day, at least from my device.  Any chance that the roundup has begun?</p>
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		<title>By: davidstvz</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12554</link>
		<dc:creator>davidstvz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, drug warriors would consider unknown ingredients to be a boon that might discourage drug use.  The fact that two thirds (!) of all seized cocaine has this de-worming drug added is pretty scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, drug warriors would consider unknown ingredients to be a boon that might discourage drug use.  The fact that two thirds (!) of all seized cocaine has this de-worming drug added is pretty scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally O'Boyle</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-225/comment-page-1/#comment-12548</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally O'Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find all the Liberty Candidates for your state at Liberty-Candidates.org.

Here are the ones so far for IL:
http://www.liberty-candidates.org/illinois/

If you know of someone who may qualify, please send them over to fill out the application:
http://www.liberty-candidates.org/application-libertycandidate/

I&#039;m banking on getting liberty and constitutional candidates into office in 2010 and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find all the Liberty Candidates for your state at Liberty-Candidates.org.</p>
<p>Here are the ones so far for IL:<br />
<a href="http://www.liberty-candidates.org/illinois/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberty-candidates.org/illinois/</a></p>
<p>If you know of someone who may qualify, please send them over to fill out the application:<br />
<a href="http://www.liberty-candidates.org/application-libertycandidate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberty-candidates.org/application-libertycandidate/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m banking on getting liberty and constitutional candidates into office in 2010 and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have even entered the wrong address and commenced tearing up the floor with my Bosch SDS hammerchisel which looks eerily like an assault weapon. Am often paranoid just taking it out of its case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have even entered the wrong address and commenced tearing up the floor with my Bosch SDS hammerchisel which looks eerily like an assault weapon. Am often paranoid just taking it out of its case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allan I too work in renovations and after 5,000 or so different addresses and neighborhoods am appalled that such heavy-handed tactics are employed at all. There is simply no excuse for such behaviour. I have calmed mental patients, been bitten by dogs, you name it... You take what comes and lick your wounds. Gunplay a result of too much television and stroboscopic adversarial programming,, IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan I too work in renovations and after 5,000 or so different addresses and neighborhoods am appalled that such heavy-handed tactics are employed at all. There is simply no excuse for such behaviour. I have calmed mental patients, been bitten by dogs, you name it&#8230; You take what comes and lick your wounds. Gunplay a result of too much television and stroboscopic adversarial programming,, IMO</p>
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