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		<title>By: a1766580</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1766580 beers on the wall.  sck was here</description>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-221/comment-page-1/#comment-8988</link>
		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;From: Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

&lt;B&gt;Howard Zinn, 1922 - 2010&lt;/B&gt;

Howard Zinn, historian and activist, whose book, &quot;A People&#039;s History of the United States,&quot; was made into a movie narrated by many of Hollywood&#039;s biggest stars, died at age 87 on January 27.

On February 21, 2008, Jack Cole took the liberty of sending Howard a five page email explaining LEAP&#039;s position on the war on drugs. Six minutes later, he received an email response saying, &quot;OK, Jack you can list me as a member.&quot; In so doing, he joined intellectual luminaries such as Noam Chomsky and Milton Friedman who understood, from quite different frameworks, the futility and corrupting barbarity of this war.&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1607&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Howard Zinn, 1922-2010&lt;/A&gt; Cybrary

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/22175&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Funnyman Lewis Black Gets Serious About Pot&lt;/A&gt;
Jeremiah Vandermeer
Usually Lewis Black has my eyes welling up from incessant laughter, but this clip of the gruff Daily Show comedian speaking seriously about marijuana legalization nearly brought tears to my eyes.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcTvpDRvrdA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lewis Black: Baby Boomers Should Legalize Pot U2b&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/02/09/How-Rich-People-Smoke-Pot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Rich People Smoke Pot&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/special/howard_lotsof_dead_66_ibogaine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ibogaine Pioneer Howard Lotsof Dead at Age 66&lt;/A&gt;
Feb 10 2010
Lotsof originated numerous patents for ibogaine in treating addictions and provided data to the National Institute on Drug Abuse that laid the groundwork for still ongoing research on ibogaine and its use as an anti-addictive substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>From: Law Enforcement Against Prohibition</p>
<p><b>Howard Zinn, 1922 &#8211; 2010</b></p>
<p>Howard Zinn, historian and activist, whose book, &#8220;A People&#8217;s History of the United States,&#8221; was made into a movie narrated by many of Hollywood&#8217;s biggest stars, died at age 87 on January 27.</p>
<p>On February 21, 2008, Jack Cole took the liberty of sending Howard a five page email explaining LEAP&#8217;s position on the war on drugs. Six minutes later, he received an email response saying, &#8220;OK, Jack you can list me as a member.&#8221; In so doing, he joined intellectual luminaries such as Noam Chomsky and Milton Friedman who understood, from quite different frameworks, the futility and corrupting barbarity of this war.</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1607" rel="nofollow">Howard Zinn, 1922-2010</a> Cybrary</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/22175" rel="nofollow">Funnyman Lewis Black Gets Serious About Pot</a><br />
Jeremiah Vandermeer<br />
Usually Lewis Black has my eyes welling up from incessant laughter, but this clip of the gruff Daily Show comedian speaking seriously about marijuana legalization nearly brought tears to my eyes.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcTvpDRvrdA" rel="nofollow">Lewis Black: Baby Boomers Should Legalize Pot U2b</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/02/09/How-Rich-People-Smoke-Pot" rel="nofollow">How Rich People Smoke Pot</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/special/howard_lotsof_dead_66_ibogaine" rel="nofollow">Ibogaine Pioneer Howard Lotsof Dead at Age 66</a><br />
Feb 10 2010<br />
Lotsof originated numerous patents for ibogaine in treating addictions and provided data to the National Institute on Drug Abuse that laid the groundwork for still ongoing research on ibogaine and its use as an anti-addictive substance.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://cannabisnews.com/news/25/thread25405.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taking Issue With Medical Marijuana&lt;/A&gt;

Jennifer Alexander, an OMMP cardholder, said public awareness on the issue could make the difference when it comes to resolving the complicated policy debate.

“I don’t think these things are out in the public enough because until I became a patient I wasn’t aware of a number of things going on with this, and then I became a patient and I’m like, ‘Oh, you guys have been doing what, for how long?’”

Alan Ericson, another OMMP advocate, agreed.

“Absolutely!” he said. “This issue hasn’t been publicly debated on any kind of level, other than locally, and it needs to be.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://cannabisnews.com/news/25/thread25405.shtml" rel="nofollow">Taking Issue With Medical Marijuana</a></p>
<p>Jennifer Alexander, an OMMP cardholder, said public awareness on the issue could make the difference when it comes to resolving the complicated policy debate.</p>
<p>“I don’t think these things are out in the public enough because until I became a patient I wasn’t aware of a number of things going on with this, and then I became a patient and I’m like, ‘Oh, you guys have been doing what, for how long?’”</p>
<p>Alan Ericson, another OMMP advocate, agreed.</p>
<p>“Absolutely!” he said. “This issue hasn’t been publicly debated on any kind of level, other than locally, and it needs to be.”</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-221/comment-page-1/#comment-8763</link>
		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/22135&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ron Paul &amp; Gary Johnson for President in 2012!&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;I&gt;Marc Emery
I have met Gary Johnson and he is terrific.&lt;/I&gt;
He will compete with Ron Paul for the Republican nomination in 2011 and 2012, ultimately I think they will be on the same ticket and they can defeat President Obama.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFeh7DHHbkI&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Former NM Gov. Gary Johnson&#039;s Vision For a Truly Free America&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;I&gt;U2b February 05, 2010&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/search/node/Gary+Johnson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gary Johnson on Cannabis Culture.&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/22135" rel="nofollow">Ron Paul &amp; Gary Johnson for President in 2012!</a><br />
<i>Marc Emery<br />
I have met Gary Johnson and he is terrific.</i><br />
He will compete with Ron Paul for the Republican nomination in 2011 and 2012, ultimately I think they will be on the same ticket and they can defeat President Obama.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFeh7DHHbkI&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">Former NM Gov. Gary Johnson&#8217;s Vision For a Truly Free America</a><br />
<i>U2b February 05, 2010</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/search/node/Gary+Johnson" rel="nofollow">Gary Johnson on Cannabis Culture.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shap~

What if that guy outside the store had better and cheaper &quot;bathtub&quot; cannabis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shap~</p>
<p>What if that guy outside the store had better and cheaper &#8220;bathtub&#8221; cannabis?</p>
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		<title>By: kaptinemo</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-221/comment-page-1/#comment-8700</link>
		<dc:creator>kaptinemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see the economic aspect is being taken seriously. It can&#039;t hurt for companies to realize that they&#039;ve been catering to an incredibly small and extremely shrill minority (drug prohibitionists) at the expense of alienating scores of millions of people. 

I&#039;ve long held that cannabists constitute the single largest voting bloc in American politics. What goes without saying is that they also constitute the single largest &lt;i&gt;economic&lt;/i&gt; bloc, as well. &lt;b&gt;If we ever decided to become more cohesive as a political force, we&#039;d be unstoppable&lt;/b&gt;. Imagine: Scores of millions...withholding their money from the economy, or targeting certain businesses for their support of drug prohibition. And of course, voting for candidates who favor reform. Millions of swing votes at a critical election can break any ties and force those who take us lightly to rue their dismissive attitude.

We have the power, and in truth we always did. It&#039;s long past time to flex those muscles and prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see the economic aspect is being taken seriously. It can&#8217;t hurt for companies to realize that they&#8217;ve been catering to an incredibly small and extremely shrill minority (drug prohibitionists) at the expense of alienating scores of millions of people. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long held that cannabists constitute the single largest voting bloc in American politics. What goes without saying is that they also constitute the single largest <i>economic</i> bloc, as well. <b>If we ever decided to become more cohesive as a political force, we&#8217;d be unstoppable</b>. Imagine: Scores of millions&#8230;withholding their money from the economy, or targeting certain businesses for their support of drug prohibition. And of course, voting for candidates who favor reform. Millions of swing votes at a critical election can break any ties and force those who take us lightly to rue their dismissive attitude.</p>
<p>We have the power, and in truth we always did. It&#8217;s long past time to flex those muscles and prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, when you guys put it that way it just sounds crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, when you guys put it that way it just sounds crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You heard right! Moonshiners take up 50% of the prison space in Federal prisons, and cost billions of dollars each year to house them.  And there&#039;s hundreds of thousands of moonshiners wasting away their lives in state prisons right now.  They totally clog the courts and the probation system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You heard right! Moonshiners take up 50% of the prison space in Federal prisons, and cost billions of dollars each year to house them.  And there&#8217;s hundreds of thousands of moonshiners wasting away their lives in state prisons right now.  They totally clog the courts and the probation system.</p>
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		<title>By: Just me</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-221/comment-page-1/#comment-8694</link>
		<dc:creator>Just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear they are going to bulid new prisons because of the rise in arrests of moonshine runners. The prisons are over filled by the bathtube ginners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear they are going to bulid new prisons because of the rise in arrests of moonshine runners. The prisons are over filled by the bathtube ginners.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/open-thread-221/comment-page-1/#comment-8692</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and I got mugged the other day by an alcoholic who couldn&#039;t come up with 2 dollars for a bottle of Thunderbird.  It&#039;s terrible these days, what with the burglaries and the car break-ins from all these damn alcohol addicts stealing for their next fix.

The other thing that&#039;s really awful is how so many people died or went blind this year drinking all that store bought liquor.  Never know what goes into that stuff, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and I got mugged the other day by an alcoholic who couldn&#8217;t come up with 2 dollars for a bottle of Thunderbird.  It&#8217;s terrible these days, what with the burglaries and the car break-ins from all these damn alcohol addicts stealing for their next fix.</p>
<p>The other thing that&#8217;s really awful is how so many people died or went blind this year drinking all that store bought liquor.  Never know what goes into that stuff, you know.</p>
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