Comments on: Marijuana Addiction – a response http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/ by Pete Guither Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:48:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bill Harris http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-14667 Bill Harris Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:18:28 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-14667 Addiction is not a crime. If an addiction is linked to a crime where there is a victim, we already have laws against all sorts of crime. We don't need to have laws against addictions. What we need is a knowledge base of best practices to get from intentions to outcomes while avoiding pitfalls. Addiction is not a crime. If an addiction is linked to a crime where there is a victim, we already have laws against all sorts of crime. We don’t need to have laws against addictions. What we need is a knowledge base of best practices to get from intentions to outcomes while avoiding pitfalls.

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]]> By: Outlaw Baker http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-12018 Outlaw Baker Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:06:49 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-12018 Great post. Personally I think a doctor is better than the courts to resolve cases of addiction. I belive that marijuana is less addictive than other legal drugs too. Great post. Personally I think a doctor is better than the courts to resolve cases of addiction. I belive that marijuana is less addictive than other legal drugs too.

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]]> By: Jesper Kristensen http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11966 Jesper Kristensen Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:53:33 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11966 @DcC: problem sorta is you're throwing around the word addiction and I can't really figure out what you mean by the word. Are you referring to the DSV-IV or the new V or maybe the ICD-10 classification, or are you simply using a fuzzy laymen's term? I'm sorta partial to the ICD-10 myself, although I find it completely arbitrary that on a list of 10 questions you gotta score only 2 hits to get into the "warning" zone, and with just 3 hits to get the "you might consider seeking professional help" message. Once I put the the wife + the entire office (lol - good workplace I guess) only instructing my drug-virgin friends to substitute "alcohol" for "drug" in a test clearly based on ICD-10. The office needed professional help, and even the wife got a warning although she's among the most sober and least drug using people I know. Sheesh, she don't even feel too comfortable drinking a whole bottle of wine at a party. If this came down to a pissing contest of "who's smoked what" in order to be a reliable witness (yay, finally!) I could probably outpiss you and a bunch of others. I if I based my findings on personal experience only I'd say that any cannabis product exerts a greater pull at me than does heroin. What? You don't believe me? Well, go smoke some and you'll see how boring it is :P :P I'd rather give up opiods than alcohol, benzoes and quaaludes are OK but exerts an even lesser pull on me. Ketamine is by far some of the weirdest I've done, yet under some circumstances a bona fide psychedelic little gem, and as a utility/medicine drug it's quite the painkiller. And cocaine is just "meh", IDGI? Me and the guys have lots of these discussions, and I find it remarkable that some seem to be able to get addicted (their own words) to pretty much anything, some don't even like pot yet like GHB or ketamine, and others profess openly that pot is the only thing they can't have lying around because they'll compulsive smoke the entire stash - even when going to work - and not stop until the last piece of green is combusted. Most I know wouldn't trade cocaine for pot unless at gunpoint. Some people clearly have trouble controlling their use of certain drugs, but it's not entirely predictable. Who would've though Rush Limbaugh was a "druggie", eh? LOL Some jokingly use prostitution as a surrogate outcome to predict whether drug either addictive or non-addictive. I personally don't know many sex workers, but I'll definitely ask around now the issue came up, but I do know of people who committed a great deal of B&E to support their hash habit. @DcC: problem sorta is you’re throwing around the word addiction and I can’t really figure out what you mean by the word. Are you referring to the DSV-IV or the new V or maybe the ICD-10 classification, or are you simply using a fuzzy laymen’s term? I’m sorta partial to the ICD-10 myself, although I find it completely arbitrary that on a list of 10 questions you gotta score only 2 hits to get into the “warning” zone, and with just 3 hits to get the “you might consider seeking professional help” message. Once I put the the wife + the entire office (lol – good workplace I guess) only instructing my drug-virgin friends to substitute “alcohol” for “drug” in a test clearly based on ICD-10. The office needed professional help, and even the wife got a warning although she’s among the most sober and least drug using people I know. Sheesh, she don’t even feel too comfortable drinking a whole bottle of wine at a party.

If this came down to a pissing contest of “who’s smoked what” in order to be a reliable witness (yay, finally!) I could probably outpiss you and a bunch of others. I if I based my findings on personal experience only I’d say that any cannabis product exerts a greater pull at me than does heroin. What? You don’t believe me? Well, go smoke some and you’ll see how boring it is :P :P

I’d rather give up opiods than alcohol, benzoes and quaaludes are OK but exerts an even lesser pull on me. Ketamine is by far some of the weirdest I’ve done, yet under some circumstances a bona fide psychedelic little gem, and as a utility/medicine drug it’s quite the painkiller. And cocaine is just “meh”, IDGI?

Me and the guys have lots of these discussions, and I find it remarkable that some seem to be able to get addicted (their own words) to pretty much anything, some don’t even like pot yet like GHB or ketamine, and others profess openly that pot is the only thing they can’t have lying around because they’ll compulsive smoke the entire stash – even when going to work – and not stop until the last piece of green is combusted. Most I know wouldn’t trade cocaine for pot unless at gunpoint. Some people clearly have trouble controlling their use of certain drugs, but it’s not entirely predictable. Who would’ve though Rush Limbaugh was a “druggie”, eh? LOL

Some jokingly use prostitution as a surrogate outcome to predict whether drug either addictive or non-addictive. I personally don’t know many sex workers, but I’ll definitely ask around now the issue came up, but I do know of people who committed a great deal of B&E to support their hash habit.

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]]> By: claygooding http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11947 claygooding Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:55:00 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11947 The only messengers under attack are the ones you have attacked.I have not said anything derogatory about your childish attitude,but I could have. I never said anything about you failure to understand what a satirical pun was.Maybe I should have typed it s-l-o-w-e-r. End of argument with you DcD,since I don't have the intelligence to break down the English language simply enough for you to understand that you have me mixed up with someone that gives a crap about how you feel. The only messengers under attack are the ones you have attacked.I have not said anything derogatory about your childish attitude,but I could have.
I never said anything about you failure to understand
what a satirical pun was.Maybe I should have typed it s-l-o-w-e-r.
End of argument with you DcD,since I don’t have the intelligence to break down the English language simply enough for you to understand that you have me mixed up with someone that gives a crap about how you feel.

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]]> By: DdC http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11940 DdC Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:36:39 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11940 I don't believe trolls have a clue to what respect is. If you notice, I'm returning fire. Doesn't take much. So no thanks, fuck their respect. Anyone doesn't want my pithy coments should leave me out of their discussions. Especially the illiterates who can't spell DdC. Though I believe it is better to get pissed off than pissed on. I'm not pissed. I'm bored. Especially after skimming over troll do do. So the clays have a clear choice to attack the issue not the messenger. That part always seems to elude people. I don’t believe trolls have a clue to what respect is. If you notice, I’m returning fire. Doesn’t take much. So no thanks, fuck their respect. Anyone doesn’t want my pithy coments should leave me out of their discussions. Especially the illiterates who can’t spell DdC. Though I believe it is better to get pissed off than pissed on. I’m not pissed. I’m bored. Especially after skimming over troll do do. So the clays have a clear choice to attack the issue not the messenger. That part always seems to elude people.

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]]> By: Pete http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11939 Pete Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:23:47 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11939 DdC, if you want people to respect you as an adult, stop throwing tantrums and participate in the discussion. DdC, if you want people to respect you as an adult, stop throwing tantrums and participate in the discussion.

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]]> By: DdC http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11938 DdC Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:43:00 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11938 ... and your point is as dull as usual steve claygooding. I was growing in 1971 so you must be at least a hundred. That makes sense as to why you blame your lack of self disipline on pot being addictive. As far as anything you "say", your word is shit to me so save it. I don't believe you or am I impressed by little boys growing pot to brag to their punky friends. I doubt seriously if you've ever even smoked pot. But thats just my opinion. You try to push an agenda here and someone will call you on it. Whatever idiotic reefer mad crazytalk you bring. Pot is not addictive and justifying rape with sex addiction is perverted. Deal with it. … and your point is as dull as usual steve claygooding. I was growing in 1971 so you must be at least a hundred. That makes sense as to why you blame your lack of self disipline on pot being addictive. As far as anything you “say”, your word is shit to me so save it. I don’t believe you or am I impressed by little boys growing pot to brag to their punky friends. I doubt seriously if you’ve ever even smoked pot. But thats just my opinion. You try to push an agenda here and someone will call you on it. Whatever idiotic reefer mad crazytalk you bring. Pot is not addictive and justifying rape with sex addiction is perverted. Deal with it.

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]]> By: Steve Clay http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11927 Steve Clay Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:03:00 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11927 @clay, DdC might be ranting against me. Don't lose too much sleep. @clay, DdC might be ranting against me. Don’t lose too much sleep.

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]]> By: claygooding http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/02/marijuana-addiction-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-11915 claygooding Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:04:15 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5428#comment-11915 Dcd,take a pill and chill. What ever I said to anger you is just tough,I was probably smoking and growing my own before you were a gleam in your daddies eye. As far as I know,sex is not addictive,as the same goes for marijuana,cool your jets if you can't recognize tongue in cheek humor or satirical phrases. The outlawing of marijuana makes just as much sense as would a law against masturbation,you had just as well go ahead and lock everyone up as a kid and save waiting to catch them. Dcd,take a pill and chill. What ever I said to anger you is just tough,I was probably smoking and growing my own before you were a gleam in your daddies eye.
As far as I know,sex is not addictive,as the same goes for marijuana,cool your jets if you can’t recognize tongue in cheek humor or satirical phrases. The outlawing of marijuana makes just as much sense as would a law against masturbation,you had just as well go ahead and lock everyone up as a kid and save waiting to catch them.

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